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GTAV got 10's from countless publications, so why is it absent in so many Top 10s?
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CecilRousso
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Considering how much shit this game get's on Neogaf, we can soon start calling it an underrated game. 
I think the rocky multiplayer launch and the next-gen consoles have contributed a bit to that.
The multiplayer in general doesn't seem to be catching fire (I could be wrong, just what it feels like). I could never get into it personally, despite being a big GTA fan and playing quite a bit of GTA IV and Red Dead online. Doubt I've logged even 10 hours total online. Basically nothing compared to the 60+ hours I spent playing the single-player.
I think there's a lesson to be learned here, actually.
Perhaps a RDR sequel is not the way to go and they would be better off creating a new GTA-based IP instead?
Well, if they wanted to chase 'GOTY' titles, at least. From a business perspective, it might not be as great of an idea....
It's a game that annoys due to the miriad of little things that it does wrong, things that aren't immediately obvious.
Plus the end of the story mode is definitely the weaker part, and the deeply flawed online was delayed.
Basically everyone blew their load too soon on it, however i think it's still well worth deserving of the top ten more than, say, Saint's Row IV.
Plus the end of the story mode is definitely the weaker part, and the deeply flawed online was delayed.
Basically everyone blew their load too soon on it, however i think it's still well worth deserving of the top ten more than, say, Saint's Row IV.
As other people have said, one reason may be GTA Online.
You get the game, it is good fun, you enjoy it, you review it well. AND there is the super-awesome GTA:Online to come! They have even delayed the launch, you just know it is going to be amazing. Rockstar say it is going to change online gaming, it will be REVOLUTIONARY.
Then Online finally launched, and it is total crap for a week. Then when you finally start playing it, yeah, it is alright, but it is pretty much GTA:IV on a better map. You have some fun with friends, blow a few cars up. But... meh. And you aren't going to go back to the single player, because you completed that waiting for Online, you were going to play Online all the time...
So, the overwhelming lasting memory of GTAV is the Online experience, which was a mixture of a total shambles, and a mediocre bore. You pretty much forget about the single player, and your original excitement and enjoyment is forgotten.
You get the game, it is good fun, you enjoy it, you review it well. AND there is the super-awesome GTA:Online to come! They have even delayed the launch, you just know it is going to be amazing. Rockstar say it is going to change online gaming, it will be REVOLUTIONARY.
Then Online finally launched, and it is total crap for a week. Then when you finally start playing it, yeah, it is alright, but it is pretty much GTA:IV on a better map. You have some fun with friends, blow a few cars up. But... meh. And you aren't going to go back to the single player, because you completed that waiting for Online, you were going to play Online all the time...
So, the overwhelming lasting memory of GTAV is the Online experience, which was a mixture of a total shambles, and a mediocre bore. You pretty much forget about the single player, and your original excitement and enjoyment is forgotten.
It's infinitely better than 4 though. I loathed 4 and really enjoyed 5, even though I became even more jaded in the mean time.
Yeah I don't think it's being snubbed. I think Brothers and Tomb Raider got snubbed, although I can imagine not many people played the first and got sick of Uncharted re: the second. GTAV is high on many lists. Just not the first place on most that matter.
Yeah I think this was a large part of it. Came the end of the game
when you had to shoot Michael or Trevor
shot Trevor
If the characters would have been relateable I'm sure the whole thing would have been a lot more moving and it would have stayed with you longer.
Jeff said why. GTA Online was shit.
I haven't played it so wouldn't know personally whether it's deserving, but hasn't Tomb Raider done well for itself in regards to nominations? I thought quite a few people on here were surprised at it getting nominated for GOTY awards.
Also a bit off topic, but I just bought Brothers in the January EU PSN sale last night. I've heard it was very short, so is it the sort of game you need to play in one sitting like Journey?
But the OP isn't asking why it isn't first place on a lot of these publication's lists, but instead why it hasn't even made into their Top 10s - which turns out might not actually be true. Has the OP actually posted anything else in the thread yet?
The protagonists were the only thing that actually brought some enjoyment out of the writing.
They were not more unlikeable than a shithead like Tommy Vercetti, for example.
Eh, i didn't even touch the online in Last of Us but it's still my GOTY.
Yep and I love Jeff but he's being retarded on this one, I'm convinced he hasn't given it a good shot.
GTA Online - 4 days after launch when it was working? Not the best MP game but it's fucking completely fine. There's a lot of "single player" content in it. Do I prefer the SP? fuck yes I do but his hate of GTA online is verging on irrational, like he dumped 3 (broken) hours into it and gave up.
I agree with that. But, Rockstar made Online out to be a massive deal. It was going to change online gaming, it was going to be amazing etc... but it was just bog standard sandbox multiplayer, even ignoring the crippling launch issues. Everybody knew that Last of Us multiplayer was just an add-on (I didn't play it either).
I think a lot of people, when speaking favourably of GTAV just after launch were saying "... AND there is still Online to come". As if, yeah the campaign was good, but we all know the Online is where this game is really going to shine.
A fair amount of people hated GTA IV as well.
Shorty11857
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The Online coloured my opinion of it a lot from the broken mess of the first week to how dull it was overall. Wouldn't surprise me if reviewers felt the same
GTA games being overrated? Yup.
An overrated GTA game? It's still better than San Andreas imo
DeadlyVirus
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Then why do all these publications put the new Legend of Zelda in their top 10?
Shorty11857
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Edit: Wrong thread
CecilRousso
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It's at least as good as San Andreas.
I honestly don't see why people have such problems with this title being liked by others.
king picollo
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Pretty much my thinking it's great, it does some new cool things, but underneath it's still the same game i've been playing through the last 5 iterations.
At least Vice City had a completely different feel to it because of the time it was set.
Because The Last of Us.
DerZuhälter
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I played it and think it's really a monumental achievement in terms of content and deserves praise for that. Unfortuanetly though I had very little fun with the game just like with every other GTA.
It feels like okay driving mechanics, paired with okay shooting mechanics and a lot of functional side games (darts, "yoga", motorcross, tennis and so on) and tons of customization options for cars, cribs and players.
It's just THE game that gets away with being graded most "objectively" in the industry I feel. Just because of the sheer amount of polish and content.
"I didn't like it, but yeah it has a ton of content, nothing is really bad, it is amazingly enough nearly bug free which is insane for a game with that much content, it really doesn't do anything 'wrong', so I'm not going to knock it down a few points because I had more fun with other games"
It feels like okay driving mechanics, paired with okay shooting mechanics and a lot of functional side games (darts, "yoga", motorcross, tennis and so on) and tons of customization options for cars, cribs and players.
It's just THE game that gets away with being graded most "objectively" in the industry I feel. Just because of the sheer amount of polish and content.
"I didn't like it, but yeah it has a ton of content, nothing is really bad, it is amazingly enough nearly bug free which is insane for a game with that much content, it really doesn't do anything 'wrong', so I'm not going to knock it down a few points because I had more fun with other games"
listening to giant bombs GOTY discussion drove me up the wall. GTA V has better game play than Bioshock Infinite and The Last of us. Also, why is Gone home even on the list? I'm usually with them in opinions on good games but not this year.
the section was best game of 2013 and they spend most of the time talking about game's stories. There was already a section for that best story in a game . Brad flat out said that he didn't like the game play in bioshock and was quick dismissed by people kept talking about the ending. The ending was ok but it wasn't worth the playing through the dull some times horrible game play to get to it.
Same with the last of us, Jeff couldn't even finish the game, talking bout how bad the game play was. Again, dismissed by people talking about the ending. Brad even says the the first 3 hours are utter garbage game play wise. I had a much better time with the last of us than bioshock but i don't understand how it's a better game than GTA 5. You actually had choices in gta 5 unlike the fake or choices that didn't mean anything like in bioshock and the last of us.
the section was best game of 2013 and they spend most of the time talking about game's stories. There was already a section for that best story in a game . Brad flat out said that he didn't like the game play in bioshock and was quick dismissed by people kept talking about the ending. The ending was ok but it wasn't worth the playing through the dull some times horrible game play to get to it.
Same with the last of us, Jeff couldn't even finish the game, talking bout how bad the game play was. Again, dismissed by people talking about the ending. Brad even says the the first 3 hours are utter garbage game play wise. I had a much better time with the last of us than bioshock but i don't understand how it's a better game than GTA 5. You actually had choices in gta 5 unlike the fake or choices that didn't mean anything like in bioshock and the last of us.
This is so true, most sites/magazines give perfect scores left and right like it's nothing any more...that is of course if we're talking about a western developed big budgeted AAA release with lots of hype and marketing behind it, if it's an exclusive then the 10/10 is even more possible.
GTA is a jack of all trades for sure but aren't a lot of AAA (well reviewed) games like this the last few years? the vast majority of reviewers seem to really like these kind of games and seem more interested in "mature" stories/characters & "experiences" than focused, well thought mechanics that work well and have depth.
Trent Strong
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V had my least favorite characters, story, talk radio, commercials and just overall writing of any GTA game I've played. Some of the cutscenes were just painful to sit through.
Tricky I Shadow
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Seriously. I’m surprised this thread isn't locked yet.
Ravensmash
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Half the game missing? Sorry, but that's completely wrong.
People may have issues with it, but to say that the game was missing features is rubbish. I spent 50+ hours in the SP and I still need to go back and finish off side missions and mess around with the sandbox.
Anyway, OP is wrong - or has certainly failed to expand on the initial argument. GTA love is everywhere.
Succinct Verbosity
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GTAV, for me, is one of those games that I loved playing through, but I have absolutely no desire to return to in its current form. GTAV is certainly a fantastic game that is worthy of praise, but it just seemed to get more uneventful as the game continued.
flyinpiranha
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Nope, not that I have seen. This is a GTAV bitching thread, plain and simple.
the opinions are pretty opposed. If you didn't like it, you'd be surprised that anyone would nominate it, if you did like it, you'd be surprised so few did.
No I did it in two, but maybe more sittings is also possible. IIRC it has a number of (implied or explicit) chapters. There's a moment where it gets dark (literally) that's a good moment to pause
Yeah that's definitely not true then.
Because a trend seems to have been set were games that pull at your heart strings are mostly the ones to get the GOTY stamp.
The emotional experience is being rewarded over basically everything else lately. And when I say emotion I mean either sadness, despair or variations of both, since any game that leans more towards levity in its tone loses the emo-club membership and the hearts of the young male adult/teenager demographic.
GTA V was silly in tone = DENIED
The emotional experience is being rewarded over basically everything else lately. And when I say emotion I mean either sadness, despair or variations of both, since any game that leans more towards levity in its tone loses the emo-club membership and the hearts of the young male adult/teenager demographic.
GTA V was silly in tone = DENIED
Ravensmash
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Nah, I'm playing through it in small sessions over a few days and it's still great. Probably would be best with one sitting but it's not particularly narrative heavy and there are enough points that make a good natural pause.
Just not true. And I have no idea what being 'western' has to do with anything.
I don't think a game should be judged based on the marketing campaign, but on its own right.
If you think the solo campaign itself is not good enough, that's fair, but if you're bitter just by the comparison with the promises made, then you should try to be more objective than that.
As a general rule of thumb, anyway.
What has that to do with what i said? Tommy Vercetti was in Vice City, a game that is loved across the spectrum.
Tommy Vercetti was even worse than anyone in GTAV, GTAV's characters are no more or less despicable than anyone in past GTAs.
I think Louis in Ballad of Gay Tony may be the only protagonist of a mainline GTA that isn't a total dipshit, maybe CJ too, at the start.
So far the only one given has been Giant Bomb. Still waiting for more examples.
Just incase anyone from Rockstar is reading.
GTAV is exactly what I wanted from the next GTA. I don't think I'd change a single goddamn thing about it.
That's 2 GTA's in a row which have decimated my expectations, the game was just... mind boggling. Every thing about it, I could write almost endless about the greatness of it.
They could shovel out DLC for that world and those characters for basically the entire next generation and I think I'd have a hard time not buying all of it. I'd prefer big expansions like Gay Tony but whatever, I'm ready and waiting for it.
A motherfucking plus.
Fuck the haters, YO.
GTAV is exactly what I wanted from the next GTA. I don't think I'd change a single goddamn thing about it.
That's 2 GTA's in a row which have decimated my expectations, the game was just... mind boggling. Every thing about it, I could write almost endless about the greatness of it.
They could shovel out DLC for that world and those characters for basically the entire next generation and I think I'd have a hard time not buying all of it. I'd prefer big expansions like Gay Tony but whatever, I'm ready and waiting for it.
A motherfucking plus.
Fuck the haters, YO.
And really that's because Jeff played online and thinks that is now a good opinion for everything in GTA V
Jeff is weird.
Just in case anybody from Rockstar is reading - don't listen to this guy. GTAIV was not great.
Just in case anyone from Rockstar is reading - don't listen to this guy. GTAIV was great
Hullo To U
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How dare game reviewers critically review a game and then have a different personal opinion on what games they actually enjoyed playing!
Nicktendo86
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I don't think I have ever loved a game as much as I was playing it then had so little interest in going back to it once the credits have rolled. I think it's because some of the missions were just so bloody tedious and boring and there were not enough of the great heists.
The world and setting are amazing, the mountains and countryside awe inspiring. But once you get over that you realise how little there is to actually do in that playground, Im sorry but the game verges on boring. Not sure what the OP is on about though as many others have said, GTA5 has got a lot of GOTY nods.
The world and setting are amazing, the mountains and countryside awe inspiring. But once you get over that you realise how little there is to actually do in that playground, Im sorry but the game verges on boring. Not sure what the OP is on about though as many others have said, GTA5 has got a lot of GOTY nods.
Compared to 5, no. At the time? Very much so.
They were leagues better than than that eastern bloc crew from GTA IV.
So who were they unlike able in comparison to?
GTAIIIs protagonist was a mute.
Tommy Vercetti was good, but not great
CJ, Big Smoke, and friends were great
Niko Belic and his cousin were awful, just dreadful
For me, San Andreas had the best protagonists, and V would be an easy second.