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GTX 680 class GPUs have sold 10m units

SneakyStephan said:
You sound really upset, tell us how you really feel
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SneakyStephan said:
yeah it's a crazy amount, just one card released in 2012... there's also the 770 that replaced it last year, the 760, the 670 (which was better price/performance) etc, then all the amd midrange cards and then the really high end stuff like 780/r9 290
The total amount of modern midrange-high end gaming pcs out there must be massive.

High end pc gaming absolutely dwarfing the next gen console gaming market at this point.
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Smarter than you.
 
I bought a 680 when it came out and i was building my 1st PC, costed $500 and was sooooo hard to find in stock, had to order fast once it became available or it would be out of stock in minutes.
Still use it and dont plan on upgrading in a while either, probably until PS5 rolls around, not the biggest of pc buffs around
 
st1llx said:
I bought a 680 when it came out and i was building my 1st PC, costed $500 and was sooooo hard to find in stock, had to order fast once it became available or it would be out of stock in minutes.
Still use it and dont plan on upgrading in a while either, probably until PS5 rolls around, not the biggest of pc buffs around
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Same here, I bought it around the time it came out. I played BF3 on my old PC and then when I got my new one with the 680 it was a massive jump in quality and performance.

I can still get around most of these newer games with a mixture of high/ultra settings to play at 60fps
except Ubisoft games
.

ThoseDeafMutes said:
They went out of fashion when it turned out that despite console contracts, AMD was still hemorrhaging cash and Nvid was laughing all the way to the bank.
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lol.
 
It doesn't matter if the Steam survey is opt-in. He's using the percentage. The math doesn't add up, at all.

enra said:
You should trust math.



I used the ratio's of 670, 660 and 660 Ti compared to 680's to state how wrong the 10 million number is.



Of course he lied. He clearly included other cards if he stated that number.



I never said I was the only one who was skeptical about the number, I said the majority wasn't. That's a big difference.
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Dude, you're probably right but you're coming off super antagonistic and it's probably going to cost you your account. You could have just made your points without the "you lack critical thinking skills", "smarter than you" type of garb.
 
UnrealEck said:
How can you use Steam survey results when there's no number on how many users total it is in the survey?
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Because it's based on a percentage. The fact that we don't know how many people opt-in is irrelevant when the results are percentage based, meaning you can extrapolate them for the overall market.

Think of it like election day polling. You can get the results of a few important counties and get an accurate estimate on the state's results.

The numbers don't add up in this case. It doesn't really matter, tho. PC gaming is healthy.
 
Heavy said:
Because it's based on a percentage. The fact that we don't know how many people opt-in is irrelevant when the results are percentage based, meaning you can extrapolate them for the overall market.

Think of it like election day polling. You can get the results of a few important counties and get an accurate estimate on the state's results.

The numbers don't add up in this case. It doesn't really matter, tho. PC gaming is healthy.
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Yeah I'm still not getting how Steam survey percentages can be used to say it's not 10m GTX 680s. How are you using the Steam survey percentages to find out how many cards are sold? What are the overall market figures?
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
They went out of fashion when it turned out that despite console contracts, AMD was still hemorrhaging cash and Nvid was laughing all the way to the bank.
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If AMD goes under then Nvidia is not going to have as much incentive to keep raising the price/performance bar. Which is going to make everyone salty.
 
alexandros said:
I really don't think that a 660 would be considered a 680-class gpu. 680 and 770, sure, but no lower than that.
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I'm assuming that he's defining 680-class based on chipset, not performance. In other words, I think by 680 class he meant everything based on GK104. Which would be the 680, 670, and 660Ti (and probably the 770 and 760 as well). 10 million of those five cards doesn't sound quite as crazy, and is still decently impressive (and each of those cards is still more powerful than what's inside the PS4). It's just that since there's a not insignificant amount of users that would have bought more than one of those five cards (either to run in SLI or possibly even as a replacement/upgrade), the amount of active PC gamers with that level of power wouldn't necessarily be as high as you think.
 
Cdammen said:
I wonder how many actually bought it for gaming. I just recently, after four years, upgraded my GPU from GTX 460 to a used GTX 570 (which I got for free). They're stable and long-lasting cards the Nvidia ones.
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My Titan works excellent for video editing so much faster than my cpu lol
 
As for the numbers not adding up to circumstantial evidence...there's also the elephant in the room that no one is suggesting; that pirates may be more likely to be using high end cards. You can pirate the software but you can't pirate the hardware.

A theory, not a fact.
 
hodayathink said:
I'm assuming that he's defining 680-class based on chipset, not performance. In other words, I think by 680 class he meant everything based on GK104. Which would be the 680, 670, and 660Ti (and probably the 770 and 760 as well). 10 million of those five cards doesn't sound quite as crazy, and is still decently impressive (and each of those cards is still more powerful than what's inside the PS4). It's just that since there's a not insignificant amount of users that would have bought more than one of those five cards (either to run in SLI or possibly even as a replacement/upgrade), the amount of active PC gamers with that level of power wouldn't necessarily be as high as you think.
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I see no reason for such an assumption though. I believe the tern 680-class is meant to include reference 680s, custom/overclocked 680s and maybe 770s.
 
Teeth said:
As for the numbers not adding up to circumstantial evidence...there's also the elephant in the room that no one is suggesting; that pirates may be more likely to be using high end cards. You can pirate the software but you can't pirate the hardware.

A theory, not a fact.
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What?
 
I re-watched the Jen-Hsun's keynote, 680-class could mean... 590, 770, 7970, 280X, 6990, etc?

Heavy said:
Dude, you're probably right but you're coming off super antagonistic and it's probably going to cost you your account. You could have just made your points without the "you lack critical thinking skills", "smarter than you" type of garb.
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Well if you read the bait-ish comment that he was replying to: "You sound really upset, tell us how you really feel", we can't take the high road here :D
 
SapientWolf said:
If AMD goes under then Nvidia is not going to have as much incentive to keep raising the price/performance bar. Which is going to make everyone salty.
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The GPU space will become akin to the CPU one, that is boring.
No, I definitely don't want AMD to discard the discrete GPU market.

I'd love them to be more competitive in the high-end CPU space as well but I understand APUs are more preferable path to them.
 
I'd say the most obvious way to interpret "680-class" would be "GK104".

Kezen said:
The GPU space will become akin to the CPU one, that is boring.
No, I definitely don't want AMD to discard the discrete GPU market.

I'd love them to be more competitive in the high-end CPU space as well but I understand APUs are more preferable path to them.
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The problem with AMD is that they really are more than one generation behind architecturally now. They need to spend far more money on building something equivalent to NV, and then sell it at the same cost. What keeps them in the game is that they are at least operating on the same HW limitation as NV is. (Unlike the CPU market, where they are behind both architecturally and in manufacturing)

enra said:
I applaud you for your well-thought-out posts, they add a new twist to this thread. I'm looking forward to your next posts and hope they can eclipse the quality of the previous ones.
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You really are a teenager, right?
 
That is surprisingly higher than I would have guesses. Impressive numbers and hopefully Nvidia finds even more success in the future, seeing as they're doing so much to advance PC gaming.
 
Heavy said:
Because it's based on a percentage. The fact that we don't know how many people opt-in is irrelevant when the results are percentage based, meaning you can extrapolate them for the overall market.
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That implies that Steam is representative of the entire market though, rather than just gamers.

Videocards - high end enthusiast videocards - are not solely the domain of gamers, they have industrial and commercial use too.
Fuck, ATI midrange GPUs were almost impossible for actual gamers to pick up due to bitcoin miners not so long ago.
 
MrNyarlathotep said:
That implies that Steam is representative of the entire market though, rather than just gamers.

Videocards - high end enthusiast videocards - are not solely the domain of gamers, they have industrial and commercial use too.
Fuck, ATI midrange GPUs were almost impossible for actual gamers to pick up due to bitcoin miners not so long ago.
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Not really... anyone building a workstation for CAD, for example, isn't going to buy a GTX 680, they would pick up a Quadro.
 
enra said:
If I was a teenager my post frequency would be much higher and I would use abbreviations like LOL.

Maybe next time when you try to offend me, you could be more original.
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Perhaps you are a teenager who's parents only let you play on the computer when they aren't busy playing Freecell?

LOL
 
enra said:
Smarter than you.
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enra said:
I applaud you for your well-thought-out posts, they add a new twist to this thread. I'm looking forward to your next posts and hope they can eclipse the quality of the previous ones.
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enra said:
If I was a teenager my post frequency would be much higher and I would use abbreviations like LOL.

Maybe next time when you try to offend me, you could be more original.
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