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[mckmas8808]

You had no idea that some businesses prioritize the hiring of LGBTQ applicants? And if it's a field where it looks like identifying as such will help you, which is obviously the case here given the survey, people will just put it in their cover letter

White people especially love doing shit like that so it makes them seem more like a minority and not like other white people

Them wanting to hire some LGBT people on purpose makes sense. But 40% under 30 is INSANE! The math is almost impossible. You'd have to get to a point where you're only hiring gay people to get those numbers.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Them wanting to hire some LGBT people on purpose makes sense. But 40% under 30 is INSANE! The math is almost impossible. You'd have to get to a point where you're only hiring gay people to get those numbers.

I mean, I don't know if you'd have to get to the point where you're only hiring them. I think you would just have to get to the point where we are hiring 40% of them.

This market just seems incredibly saturated with it right now.

in the past year or so I know there's been two pictures that became kind of viral here of studios were everyone looked gay af

One of them looked like straight up satire

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Best way for white guys to land a job is simply to check those boxes on the last page of the application as 1. White box. 2. LBTGA box.

You cant fake being a non-white guy at an interview, but nobody will ever know if youre straight or gay. So just check the gay box. If HR needs more gay dudes or lesbians to bump up the % you got a brownie pt to get to the next stage of interviews.

Not sure when it started happening, but no doubt all the companies asking those demographic hiring questions base hiring on that. Never believe that *paragraph where they say [The above demographic questions do not affect your hiring]. Total BS. If it didnt matter, they wouldnt ask.

It wasnt like this applying for jobs way back. But then online applications started adding those questions on the final page right before you sign and submit. Maybe it ramped up starting a dacade ago. Not sure. Not all companies ask it, but you'll notice (at least for me), the big Fortune 500 kinds of companies will likely ask it. But really small companies probably wont. That's because (see below parapgraph).

Need to juice up the quota stats for PR or qualifying for government contracts which can require mandatory race/gender kind of stats. In Canada, to qualify for certain contracts you must meet demographic quota metrics. It's stupid that government is supposed to be the one pushing zero discrimination, but they do it too. So it shows it's BS. It's just a matter of which company or gov can put on the PR face the best for image and sales.

Case in point. A lot of companies change their logo to pride rainbow for June. Other months they dont give a shit. But this past June, a lot of companies didnt bother. The grift for DEI brownie pts isnt there anymore as the general public is turning on it as people had enough and repubs win many recent elections in countries. So they'll turn back too to ride the trend. As I said, what to do best to put on the best PR face.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Did y'all hear that? Staph the hate towards "Haters", it's not about hate but love you haters.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Another game which the devs love splattering purple everywhere. Right off the bat a big warning sign.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Looks good, outside of some questionable character designs. I must say, it looks like Sony is back to its old ways of trying to make their own MH games again.

 

[yurinka]

They have been making this for 8 years to date?! Fucking lol

AAA games nowadays take around 5-9 years to be made on average.

It would explain the unhinged 2018 era wokeness and thus why they are headed once again towards the same train wreck as Concord. Nobody would have had the stomach to propose upping that to 10 years when Concord spectacularly crashed and burned.

Concord, like Hunters Gathering, was greenlighted in 2018 by Shuhei Yoshida, Shawn Layden and Andrew House.

You had no idea that some businesses prioritize the hiring of LGBTQ applicants? And if it's a field where it looks like identifying as such will help you, which is obviously the case here given the survey, people will just put it in their cover letter

White people especially love doing shit like that so it makes them seem more like a minority and not like other white people

Yes, companies like Sony have DEI departments to discriminate white people, heterosexual people and males in hirings and promotions, in many cases rejecting the best candidates because of their skin color, sexual preferences or gender.

Something that is bad and shouldn't happen. The people hired or promoted should be the best candidate due to their talent, knowledge and working experience independently of their skin color, sexual preference and gender, which is what was being done before the wokism and DEI.

DEI departments must be shut down and DEI positions must be removed from HR in all companies.

And other than this, they must stop wasting money on 'external diversity consultants' and invest that money instead in proper player research doing more normal playtests with player demographics who REALLY love, play and spend money on these type of games, not from political activists who don't know these games and don't give a shit about them.

And PlayStation's CM should be professional and stop deleting comments from the PlayStation blog and Youtube with the related criticism and instead to take note in their reports about all kind of player feedback (this includes what they don't personally like, no 'this is racist/sexist/bigot/etc' excuses here) for the devteam.

By doing so the teams will be able to do better games by having the most talented people for their positions and better understand what the players who spend money on these games want. So they'll be able to make better games, that will be better received and will make more money.

It's just common sense.

Them wanting to hire some LGBT people on purpose makes sense.

No, it doesn't make sense to reject the best candidates they find because of being heterosexual. This is bad.

Their goal must be to have the most talented team possible independently of their sexual preferences, skin color, gender, etc. This inludes not giving a shit if the team is 100% gays or 100% heterosexuals.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

AAA games nowadays take around 5-9 years to be made on average.


Concord, like Hunters Gathering, was greenlighted in 2018 by Shuhei Yoshida, Shawn Layden and Andrew House.


Yes, companies like Sony have DEI departments to discriminate white people, heterosexual people and males in hirings and promotions because of their skin color, sexual preferences or gender.

Somethind that is bad and shouldn't exist. The people hired or promoted should be the best candidate due to their talent, knowledge and working experience independently of their skin color, sexual preference and gender, which is what was being done before the wokism and DEI.

DEI departments must be shut down and DEI positions must be removed from HR. And they must stop wasting money on 'external diversity consultants' and invest that money instead in player research doing normal playtests with player demographics who like, play and spend money on these type of games, not from political activists who don't know or give a shit about these games.

Even if all the DEI discriminatory stuff is gone, gaming will always have issues which will be exasperated by big budgets and time........ the lack of gamer feedback.

Most games dont even do demos anymore like the 360/PS3 era. Only some do. And only some do early access.

So what you'll always get (like Concord or Highguard or Horizon Hunters as examples) are shadow drops or showing gamers so late in the process it's basically too late except for some tweaks. If this Horizon game has been in dev for about 8 years and only now is showing gamers, and launch date is probably soon. Well, what you see is what you get. And it's another example of gamers laughing at it but they got no choice now except to cancel it (probaby not) or just launch it and hope for the best.

HG is an excellent example. Even though it looks like it'd be a failure anyway, in just 1.5 weeks they added content and adjusted a ton of stuff making it a better game. All they had to do is do a quick beta a month or two ago and they could had launched it in better shape.

But nope. Game studios got that ego thing going on what they got is so good, cant show it to gamers earlier. Best shown 5 years later when it's 99% done. And also, it's so good again, cant show it or else some other studio will steal their idea.

 

[yurinka]

Even if all the DEI discriminatory stuff is gone, gaming will always have issues which will be exasperated by big budgets and time........ the lack of gamer feedback.

Most games dont even do demos anymore like the 360/PS3 era. Only some do. And only some do early access.

So what you'll always get (like Concord or Highguard or Horizon Hunters as examples) are shadow drops or showing gamers so late in the process it's basically too late except for some tweaks. If this Horizon game has been in dev for about 8 years and only now is showing gamers, and launch date is probably soon. Well, what you see is what you get. And it's another example of gamers laughing at it but they got no choice now except to cancel it (probaby not) or just launch it and hope for the best.

HG is an excellent example. Even though it looks like it'd be a failure anyway, in just 1.5 weeks they added content and adjusted a ton of stuff making it a better game. All they had to do is do a quick beta a month or two ago and they could had launched it in better shape.

But nope. Game studios got that ego thing going on what they got is so good, cant show it to gamers earlier. Best shown 5 years later when it's 99% done. And also, it's so good again, cant show it or else some other studio will steal their idea.

The public demos published in the store aren't their only source of player feedback.

During development companies do different playtest types to get feedback to gauge if the game works and find stuff to improve before release (or post launch asap):

• Competition analysis: specially done in preproduction, they research about reviews from the gaming media, popular streamers or user reviews and general social media feedback to see what people liked, disliked or wanted in reference games (those similar from where they copy stuff) or direct competition (similar games released relatively close)
• Focus testing: mostly done in early stages of the project they bring the type of players who like this type of game and show them very specific things, as could be different game logo or key art variations, different artstyle variations, different character designs, different ideas for things as could be some mechanic or the monetization. They typically are sit together and debate with a moderator about that topic
• Internal dev team playtests: the team who develops the game or devs from other teams of the company play the game before release and provide feeback
• Internal mock reviews: they have multiple staff who are former game journalists (typically now working on their PR team) who during certain points of the development make different game review as if it was a review for a gaming website/magazine. With this they normally get an estimate of the Metacritic they'll get. Sometimes they bring external active game journalists or big streamers to do mock reviews
• Internal editorial team reviews: same as before but done by highly experienced and successful devs, focusing on feedback
• Closed playtests: sometimes in their office, sometimes in external dedicated companies, sometimes online, they bring players (most of them who play these games plus others that don't as control group) to play the games separatedly and provide feedback separatedly, often while in alpha or beta and more focused on gameplay, balance, game flow
• Open playtests: same but mostly online and open to everybody. Often named 'open alphas' or 'open betas'. Being done in the last stages of development, typically are to do server stress tests, final tweaks or fixes, don't have time to make big structural changes. Often also used as promotional tools, like normal demos

The thing is that this has to be done with a proper methodology and with honesty. When choosing players they have to choose players with demographics and tastes representative of those who play and spend money on that subgenre. Not the ones that the DEI department, Sweet Baby Inc and Blackrock wants.

And the people who provide feedback should be free to be able to say that doesn't like that artstyle, or that character because this or that, without being afraid of being called a racist, sexist, etc. Same goes with the people collecting the feedback and the people making decisions based on the feedback: they shouldn't ignore because 'that's racist/sexist/hate/bigotry/etc'). Some other cases they get the feedback but their ego or available budget/time doesn't allow them to fix it.

Because if not you get things like Destruction AllStars, Concord, Dragon Age Vailguard, Suicide Squad, Dustborn, Star Wars Outlaws, Assassin's Creed Shadows, Flintlock, Dustborn, Forspoken, the Saints Row reboot, Marathon, Hunters Gathering... games that without the wokism would have been way better received.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The public demos published in the store aren't their only source of player feedback.

During development companies do different playtest types to get feedback to gauge if the game works and find stuff to improve before release (or post launch asap):

• Competition analysis: specially done in preproduction, they research about reviews from the gaming media, popular streamers or user reviews and general social media feedback to see what people liked, disliked or wanted in reference games (those similar from where they copy stuff) or direct competition (similar games released relatively close)
• Focus testing: mostly done in early stages of the project they bring the type of players who like this type of game and show them very specific things, as could be different game logo or key art variations, different artstyle variations, different character designs, different ideas for things as could be some mechanic or the monetization. They typically are sit together and debate with a moderator about that topic
• Internal dev team playtests: the team who develops the game or devs from other teams of the company play the game before release and provide feeback
• Internal mock reviews: they have multiple staff who are former game journalists (typically now working on their PR team) who during certain points of the development make different game review as if it was a review for a gaming website/magazine. With this they normally get an estimate of the Metacritic they'll get. Sometimes they bring external active game journalists or big streamers to do mock reviews
• Internal editorial team reviews: same as before but done by highly experienced and successful devs, focusing on feedback
• Closed playtests: sometimes in their office, sometimes in external dedicated companies, sometimes online, they bring players (most of them who play these games plus others that don't as control group) to play the games separatedly and provide feedback separatedly, often while in alpha or beta and more focused on gameplay, balance, game flow
• Open playtests: same but mostly online and open to everybody. Often named 'open alphas' or 'open betas'. Being done in the last stages of development, typically are to do server stress tests, final tweaks or fixes, don't have time to make big structural changes. Often also used as promotional tools, like normal demos

The thing is that this has to be done with a proper methodology and with honesty. When choosing players they have to choose players with demographics and tastes representative of those who play and spend money on that subgenre. Not the ones that the DEI department, Sweet Baby Inc and Blackrock wants.

And the people who provide feedback should be free to be able to say that doesn't like that artstyle, or that character because this or that, without being afraid of being called a racist, sexist, etc. Same goes with the people collecting the feedback and the people making decisions based on the feedback: they shouldn't ignore because 'that's racist/sexist/hate/bigotry/etc'). Some other cases they get the feedback but their ego or available budget/time doesn't allow them to fix it.

Because if not you get things like Destruction AllStars, Concord, Dragon Age Vailguard, Suicide Squad, Dustborn, Star Wars Outlaws, Assassin's Creed Shadows, Flintlock, Dustborn, Forspoken, the Saints Row reboot, Marathon, Hunters Gathering... games that without the wokism would have been way better received.

Ya. Well said.

I remember over a decade ago being part of internal tests and evaluation on some prototype products and how it compares to competing products.

It was about 3-4 internal people + the marketing manager in charge of that brand. In the middle of the table are stacks of various company and competing products for all of us to look at.

It was insane. We each had to give a 0-10 ratings based on the product feel, looks, packaging, brand strength (which is the hardest and most subjective of all) etc..... each of us including the marketing manager give our ratings and then pool the stats to get avg pt ratings. I'm usually a hard marker so I'm giving out 4-6 ratings. Most people rated a bit higher than me.

Toxic positivity. Not surprisingly the marketing manager is giving our products all 8s, 9s, 10s. And then the competing products (which could even include higher selling products), she'd dump them down as 6s and 7s.

So the tallies happen and our products would always be rated among the best. Totally subjective results, but of course the marketing manager has a giant smile on her face. Then what would happen is since our products rated high, she'd set the suggested retail price high. Well look at that. Disaster. One product line shut down after year. Biggest complaint and sentiment was it was overpriced. lol

 

[Barakov]

The beloved series gets a new game, behold GAFers

Announcing Horizon Hunters Gathering, Guerrilla’s new co-op action game

Hunt deadly machines in tactical three-player co-op action and adapt your Hunter for intense missions.

blog.playstation.com

3 Player Co-Op Coming to PS5 and PC, closed beta in February.

Imagine the amount of drugs you'd have to be on to think that any part of this game is a good idea.

 

[Moonjt9]

The game might be fun or whatever but just WTF is that fatass woman character? It looks absolutely ridiculous!

 

[KanKamAndNob]

The game might be fun or whatever but just WTF is that fatass woman character? It looks absolutely ridiculous!

Remember when feminists were throwing bitch fits about Lara Croft being "uNrEaLiStIc" because of her bust size? Watch and see how the cunts and their simpering male allies are quick to defend that bloated walrus existing in a world with famine, killer robot dinosaurs, and having to be fit just to hunt for fucking berries.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Is this even running on Decima?

Imagine taking the one thing, the graphics - which even the haters like myself can agree is some of the greatest in gaming - and fucking that up with this slop look.

Oh you mean the regular Horizion games? Yes, they are some of the best looking games in the industry. This artstyle isn't the worst, but it's too far from what Horizion is supposed to look like.

 

[TheRaidenPT]

Yes, of course.

You're just proving you know nothing about gaming industry, or about geography.

Look what actual shareholders have to say:

Even funds that hold high % of Sony shares, bought the company due to the PlayStation fanbase Installment.

Now we spent 6 years of a generation almost looking at paint dry and getting studios that only worked on exclusive SP titles doing Live Services.

Sony could have bought various studios like Remedy or even a publisher with the money of bungie

 

[Jigsaah]

This was a dream of theirs?

I find this very hard to believe.

Also its not good to start a presentation off with an apology...just sayin'

 

[Radical_3d]

They knew exactly how this was going to be received…

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Is it time to brainstorm the OT title?

Horizon Grunter's Gasping ?

 

[mckmas8808]

Best way for white guys to land a job is simply to check those boxes on the last page of the application as 1. White box. 2. LBTGA box.

You cant fake being a non-white guy at an interview, but nobody will ever know if youre straight or gay. So just check the gay box. If HR needs more gay dudes or lesbians to bump up the % you got a brownie pt to get to the next stage of interviews.

Not sure when it started happening, but no doubt all the companies asking those demographic hiring questions base hiring on that. Never believe that *paragraph where they say [The above demographic questions do not affect your hiring]. Total BS. If it didnt matter, they wouldnt ask.

It wasnt like this applying for jobs way back. But then online applications started adding those questions on the final page right before you sign and submit. Maybe it ramped up starting a dacade ago. Not sure. Not all companies ask it, but you'll notice (at least for me), the big Fortune 500 kinds of companies will likely ask it. But really small companies probably wont. That's because (see below parapgraph).

Need to juice up the quota stats for PR or qualifying for government contracts which can require mandatory race/gender kind of stats. In Canada, to qualify for certain contracts you must meet demographic quota metrics. It's stupid that government is supposed to be the one pushing zero discrimination, but they do it too. So it shows it's BS. It's just a matter of which company or gov can put on the PR face the best for image and sales.

Case in point. A lot of companies change their logo to pride rainbow for June. Other months they dont give a shit. But this past June, a lot of companies didnt bother. The grift for DEI brownie pts isnt there anymore as the general public is turning on it as people had enough and repubs win many recent elections in countries. So they'll turn back too to ride the trend. As I said, what to do best to put on the best PR face.

Are you saying they have checkboxes for if you are LGBT or not now?

 

[mckmas8808]

No, it doesn't make sense to reject the best candidates they find because of being heterosexual. This is bad.

Their goal must be to have the most talented team possible independently of their sexual preferences, skin color, gender, etc. This inludes not giving a shit if the team is 100% gays or 100% heterosexuals.

Well.....to be fair I was assuming the LGBT person they are hiring was qualified. Not some random gay person that got lucky and submitted an application.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Are you saying they have checkboxes for if you are LGBT or not now?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Whats the guesstimate on the budget guys.

8 years, Guerilla. 300 million down the drain?

 

[Plague Doctor]

This was a dream of theirs?

I find this very hard to believe.

Also its not good to start a presentation off with an apology...just sayin'

It's every dev's dream to make purple colored pixar slop with 500lb peg-legged women and the eldery fighting mechanical animals.

Especially the night after eating questionable gas station sushi. How can anyone say no to 3 dollar California rolls?

 

[mckmas8808]

Whats the guesstimate on the budget guys.

8 years, Guerilla. 300 million down the drain?

I'd be curious how many devs were working on this game. Hoping no more than 50 people.

 

[diffusionx]

Them wanting to hire some LGBT people on purpose makes sense. But 40% under 30 is INSANE! The math is almost impossible. You'd have to get to a point where you're only hiring gay people to get those numbers.

While this is true, I think a lot of zoomers are just lying. They can check off whatever box they want, and it is literally illegal for the company to ask any questions or verify it (I mean, how would they lmao).

The motivations all lead in this direction. It costs literally nothing to say you are a gay Native American and it makes you more hire-able and the company happy because they need to hit their diversity goals.

You cant fake being a non-white guy at an interview, but nobody will ever know if youre straight or gay. So just check the gay box. If HR needs more gay dudes or lesbians to bump up the % you got a brownie pt to get to the next stage of interviews.

You can absolutely fake being a non-white guy. There are white Latinos. There are "Native Americans." All this stuff is "diversity". You can just check the Native American box. HR can't verify. It's illegal.

The entire DEI thing is built on the honor system and it relies on white guys, basically, volunteering to let HR classify them as second-class citizens in terms of hiring. I wouldn't be surprised at all if young zoomers figured this out.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Are you saying they have checkboxes for if you are LGBT or not now?

They totally can.

In Canada you'll get demographic kinds of questions at the end of the online application. The last page before you hit submit.

Not all companies ask these but you can get:

Gender, race, handicapped/disabilities orr not, do you identify as a lbgtq. Also sometimes they ask you to check a box if you are an Aboriginal/native person or not. The Aboriginal part can be its own mini section with a few questions alone.

One thing I don't remember getting from Canadian applications is if you're a military vet or not. But for sure it seems in the US they might ask you that because when I apply for jobs it's a Canadian job but they got lazy and used some kind of blanket template that is US based so I still get those questions but I just check N/A. Why the hell would I be an active US military guy applying for a Canadian finance job. I've never seen one asking if I'm in the Canadian military.

So I guess in the US there's something going on with military people that affects job applications somehow. But not here.

 

[mckmas8808]

They totally can.

In Canada you'll get demographic kinds of questions at the end of the online application. The last page before you hit submit.

Not all companies ask these but you can get:

Gender, race, handicapped/disabilities orr not, do you identify as a lbgtq. Also sometimes they ask you to check a box if you are an Aboriginal/native person or not. The Aboriginal part can be its own mini section with a few questions alone.

One thing I don't remember getting from Canadian applications is if you're a military vet or not. But for sure it seems in the US they might ask you that because when I apply for jobs it's a Canadian job but they got lazy and used some kind of blanket template that is US based so I still get those questions but I just check N/A. Why the hell would I be an active US military guy applying for a Canadian finance job. I've never seen one asking if I'm in the Canadian military.

So I guess in the US there's something going on with military people that affects job applications somehow. But not here.

OHHH!!!! You're in Canada. So that makes sense as to why I was confused by what you're saying. Because in America that type of stuff is illegal.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

OHHH!!!! You're in Canada. So that makes sense as to why I was confused by what you're saying. Because in America that type of stuff is illegal.

You'll get the occasional binary/non-binary/other check box section too.

 

[GymWolf]

OHHH!!!! You're in Canada. So that makes sense as to why I was confused by what you're saying. Because in America that type of stuff is illegal.

How can it be illegal when we know for certain that dei hiring exist in many american studios?

 

[yurinka]

Well.....to be fair I was assuming the LGBT person they are hiring was qualified. Not some random gay person that got lucky and submitted an application.

In most cases the people they hire meet at least some minimal standards to do at least a just ok or decent job (not including here potential issues with coworkers or impact in the product quality related to activism or political extremism).

But thing is, quite frequently to fill quotes reject the best, more qualified candidate and hire/promote instead a less qualified/more mediocre candidate just because of gender/skin color/sexual preference/origins.

Which for companies is a recipe for long term failure, reputational and commercial suicide, because even hiring and promoting the best candidates it's very difficult to make games and the competition is tough.

 

[Neon Xenon]

I have zero connection to Horizon, so I have no feelings of "betrayal" towards Hunters Gathering. But when looking at the appearance of the game and that trailer, I'm not interested in the least (I've got more than enough Monster Hunter to play instead), and it's very easy for me to understand people being dismissive and saying "it's another one of those" happening with a mainly single-player series. It's really easy to picture some corpo behind this saying "We want the Fortnite audience."

Yeah, the resulting gameplay could actually be good, but I don't know how anyone is really surprised at the negative reactions to this. No one should be shocked.

Did y'all hear that? Staph the hate towards "Haters", it's not about hate but love you haters.

I actually did watch this video from Reforge Gaming, and I think he makes good points with why people are reacting negatively. One thing he touches on is that people have gotten too familiar with of this sort of game and what it looks like from a debut trailer, so they've gotten understandably reflexive to something that can come off as cynical.

 

[kruis]

You should create a new thread for that video, because some of the data is so telling about the state of the industry, like the enormous rise in people who identify as LGBTQ+ among developers under the age of 30 and that the majority of games devs have less than 10 years experience working in the industry. Both these percentages have been rising and it really explains why western devs have become so bad at creating games people want to buy and why it takes longer and longer to ship games. And how these devs are more worried about bad managers than the fact their games are increasingly rejected by their traditional audience.

Interesting stuff.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The idea of a job position being linked to your sexual life is mental. Just think about it for a full minute and realize the kind of clown world we are living in.

And yes, this is ilegal in every constitution of every western democracy. But being ilegal means shit if it's the very public powers the ones promoting this madness.

 

[PeteBull]

Whats the guesstimate on the budget guys.

8 years, Guerilla. 300 million down the drain?

At the very least, and lets not forget game isnt launching in a week/month, it will still eat tons of devtime and resources before inevitable launch and hard bomb, likely another 100m usd gonna be wasted on top of what they already burned by now...

Edit: Lets not forget how woke those corpos are, thats MS from end of 2021:

That feels like being brainwashed and part of some crazy pseudo-religious sect

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The idea of a job position being linked to your sexual life is mental. Just think about it for a full minute and realize the kind of clown world we are living in.

And yes, this is ilegal in every constitution of every western democracy. But being ilegal means shit if it's the very public powers the ones promoting this madness.

Because a lot of tech people (gaming especially) some reason blend their home and work life like one 24 hour marathon. And HR and hiring managers love it too. Most people want to distance themselves from work when the day is done, and even more dont want to purposely inject personal politics or any other weird shit into the company's product or service. But it becomes hard to when you got weird people and many are working from home too. So what happens is you cant help but blend in home life with work life if youre in your living room. Whatever surrounds you at home will leach off into work.

And not too many people also link up their personal social media accounts as an extension of their employer where it's one part family and one part company where tweets are all intermixed with one another. At every company (at least decent sized ones?), every employee should be getting code of conduct reminders what not to do. Who knows. Seems like gaming companies dont do that because they seem rampant with personal politics and free for alls on social media.

But leave it to wacky gaming company people to do that.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Whats the guesstimate on the budget guys.

8 years, Guerilla. 300 million down the drain?

Nah. Ill take a guess this kind of mobile-ish MH game is no where close to that. But who knows. I'll take a guess at no more than $100M. Lets say $80M.

I think those first bunch of years they had a small team carved out not doing much. Then the last bunch of years full tilt. There's no way this game has been in full budget mode for 8 years.

 

[kruis]

 

[Camreezie]

Why do these developers insist that people want to play as Swamp Monsters

 

[ANIMAL1975]

western game dev is so cooked.

Fuck this purple weirdos and their purple weirdo games!
This coming from someone that has nothing against the push for multilayer games.... grey, gritty Killzone 2 is a masterpiece compared to this modern shit show. Where is the people that made it!?

 

[tommyleelynn]

ULTIMATE DEFENCE PROTOCOL — ACTIVATE!!!

Imagine being this hung up on hating something.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

Fuck this purple weirdos and their purple weirdo games!
This coming from someone that has nothing against the push for multilayer games.... grey, gritty Killzone 2 is a masterpiece compared to this modern shit show. Where is the people that made it!?

Replaced by women, trannies, and their bitch male "allies" who hate video games.

 

[Merline]

western game dev is so cooked.

 

[David_Android]

Another game which the devs love splattering purple everywhere. Right off the bat a big warning sign.

what is it with that color i dont understand

 

[David_Android]

How can a grown adult leave the house like that? if i would do that people would start laughing as soon as i hit the street.

 

[Jesb]

Go back to your roots. Cant they do at least a remake of killzone. Even remake of killzone liberation would be better than anything they're making recently.

 

[IAmRei]

Go back to your roots. Cant they do at least a remake of killzone. Even remake of killzone liberation would be better than anything they're making recently.

KZ L is damn good back then, capturing gritty even with lower polies.
why they didn't make at least something like that anymore?
It will only took for low budget today.
and surely could cash grab for some bucks fast

reminds me to play that game again

 

[Jesb]

KZ L is damn good back then, capturing gritty even with lower polies.
why they didn't make at least something like that anymore?
It will only took for low budget today.
and surely could cash grab for some bucks fast

reminds me to play that game again

I loved that game. I'd love a remake and it doesn't need a big budget indeed. Even just give it to someone else to do it.

 

[David_Android]

KZ shadowfall was already no real killzone no grit just popping colors for the mainstream.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

At the very least, and lets not forget game isnt launching in a week/month, it will still eat tons of devtime and resources before inevitable launch and hard bomb, likely another 100m usd gonna be wasted on top of what they already burned by now...

Edit: Lets not forget how woke those corpos are, thats MS from end of 2021:

That feels like being brainwashed and part of some crazy pseudo-religious sect

Me listening from 0:22- 0:56

I can't man. Respect to anyone who can endure anything past that point.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Everyone is ragging on the fat character simply because she's fat but I'm more annoyed that her being fat has zero basis in the entire established lore of the Horizon franchise.

The "fattest" characters we ever see are Eremd and Petra, and neither of them are "fat" so much as they're built big to be hard laboring crafters of the Oseram tribe. Food in HZD and HFW is a scarcity, even for the most well off tribe, the Carja.

If anyone had taken up so much of a clan's food to become as obese as the character in this game, they would have been kicked out and left to die.

Sorry for the rant but it's minor shit like this that pisses me off and kills the entire premise of a series. They've spent considerable time creating a mostly believable post-apocalyptic world and the throw all the lore out the window to chase trends.

You also don't see tinted hairs in the original games because the modern petrochemical industry doesn't exist in the game, yet we have several characters in this game are sporting it. What you do see is a lot of ornaments made of bone or metal (because the world's lore) which they're mostly lacking here. You also see in the games a lot of traditional face painting, and yet we don't see it in this game.

To me, the real problem is the total betrayal of the franchise's setting.