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Guillermo Del Toro to direct the LotR prequels!

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LegendofJoe said:
Oh, without a doubt they'll have to. It's definitely a cause for concern, but at least they do have something to work with so it won't be a 100% hollywood production.
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we don't know what happened 100% in our human history, and when we retell things, we connect the major events with some stuff added on.

i don't see it as a problem. think of it as a retelling of history the best we can.

if it doesn't satisfy, then i can't have faith in any of our recolections of history.
 
I can't believe that no one has suggested this yet, but they should totally make the The Silmarillion, like the animatrix! get the best animation teams in the world and create different small 10-15 minute films of important sequences in the ages in middle-earth to make them understand more...


think about it. it will be hard for Ian Holm to go back as a young bilbo. he is getting to old. even for a guy with a ton of make up. same with Mckellen as gandalf... and viggo is over 50 now!

Remember that LOTRO took 5 years to make, prior to the firsts ones release in 2001... so they started in 1996... all the actors are getting way to old. but they can still do voices.


I loved animatrix. it was awesome. even though matrix reloaded and revolutions where dissapointments, animatrix was a good "insight" into the backstory of the matrix universe.

check this out:

The Second Renaissance Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_EuqB3CObE

Kids Story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPAGU3o5idM


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Some of them was released on the internet for free, to create hype. they where a great marketing tool.


they are great videos, because they where individual and made by different studios... even square made one out of CGI. And they all tied into the matrix movies and the matrix game, which unfortunately sucked.

Its too bad, because these short stories rock.


I can totally see them doing this for Tolkiens universe. Alot of the stuff that would really be interesting dont have to take that long. get disney, some of the best anime studios, and pixar and others to do these projects. unleash them on the internet, and high def on DVD, and let the fans go crazy.
 
Rindain said:
Doesn't Christopher Tolkien still own the rights to The Silmarillion, and refuse to allow it to be filmed?

Anyway, this news ROCKS.
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Yeah. JRR Tolkien sold the rights to LOTR and The Hobbit in large part because he needed the money. When you read his letters you see how he's quite poor (even though he's a professor) and is strapped for paper to write on and sometimes resorts to napkins and stuff like that.
The letters he wrote to the company who were making LOTR into a movie where filled with disappointment on how they butchered the story and got so many basic things wrong.
Very fascinating. I always wonder what he'd think of PJ's version, I like to think he would be ok with it.

But it seems the Tolkien family still holds the rights to the Silmarillion.
 
I agree man, I'm not all that worried about it. Jackson and Del Toro obviously care a great deal about Tolkien's universe and I'm sure they'll do it justice. However, the 2nd movie will need a DAMN good screenwriter who knows the universe like the back of his hand. I can't wait to see who they pick.
 
Oh man this will be sweet.

I hope Del Toro's weirdness/mindrape stuff gets thrown in the Hobbit. That'll make things interesting.
 
Tieno said:
Yeah. JRR Tolkien sold the rights to LOTR and The Hobbit in large part because he needed the money. When you read his letters you see how he's quite poor (even though he's a professor) and is strapped for paper to write on and sometimes resorts to napkins and stuff like that.
The letters he wrote to the company who were making LOTR into a movie where filled with disappointment on how they butchered the story and got so many basic things wrong.
Very fascinating. I always wonder what he'd think of PJ's version, I like to think he would be ok with it.

But it seems the Tolkien family still holds the rights to the Silmarillion.
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Funny, Tolkien died seven years before the first movie version of LOTR (Bakshi's animated one). He did complain about the BBC radio drama in the 50's, but he wasn't around when Bakshi was working on his animated version.

"I think the book quite unsuitable for 'dramatization', and have not enjoyed the broadcasts - though they have improved. I thought Tom Bombadil dreadful - but worse still was the announcer's preliminary remarks that Goldberry was his daughter (!), and that Willowman was an ally of Mordor (!!)." (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 175, 30 November 1955)

"I think poorly of the broadcast adaptations. Except for a few details I think they are not well done, even granted the script and the legitimacy of the enterprise (which I do not grant). But they took some trouble with the names. I thought that the dwarf (Glóin not Gimli [...]) was not too bad, if a bit exaggerated." (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 176, 8 December 1955)

[To Terence Tiller, concerning accents]: "I paid great attention to such linguistic differentiation as was possible: in diction, idiom and so on; and I doubt if much more can be imported, except in so far as the individual actor represents his feeling for the character in tone and style." (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 193, 2 November 1956)

[To Terence Tiller, concerning scripts for three of the episodes]: "Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space. [...] Personally, I think it requires rather the older art of the reading 'mime', than the more nearly dramatic, which results in too great an emphasis on dialogue (mostly with its setting removed). [...] I feel you have had a very hard task." (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 194, 6 November 1956)

[Replying to his publisher concerning an enquiry about the possibility of making a cartoon of The Lord of the Rings]: "I think I should find vulgarization less painful than the sillification achieved by the B.B.C." (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 198, 19 June 1957)
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Also, Tolkien originally sold the film rights to Walt Disney in the 50s. In the late 60's, United Artists gained the rights and Kubrick even tried to make a version of LOTR.
 
ManaByte said:
Funny, Tolkien died seven years before the first movie version of LOTR (Bakshi's animated one). He did complain about the BBC radio drama in the 50's, but he wasn't around when Bakshi was working on his animated version.
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It's not the Bakashi one. I read his letters, the animated version Tolkien talked about was another one that in the end didn't get made.
 
Well, Guillermo is off my hype list now. This is going to be a waste of like 4 years of his time. It's a shame, after Pan's, I really, really wanted to rank him amongst my current favorite directors.
 
I think Del Toro would be the next best thing after Jackson, but we get both so that's great too. I'm cautiously optimistic...I think this is certainly a better choice than Sam Raimi.
 
White Man said:
Well, Guillermo is off my hype list now. This is going to be a waste of like 4 years of his time. It's a shame, after Pan's, I really, really wanted to rank him amongst my current favorite directors.
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There is still Hellboy 2.
 
White Man said:
Well, Guillermo is off my hype list now. This is going to be a waste of like 4 years of his time. It's a shame, after Pan's, I really, really wanted to rank him amongst my current favorite directors.
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I really wish Raimi was doing these as originally rumored, so that Del Toro would be free to do In the Mountains of Madness or his third Spanish Civil War ghost story movie.
 
Mifune said:
I really wish Raimi was doing these as originally rumored, so that Del Toro would be free to do In the Mountains of Madness or his third Spanish Civil War ghost story movie.
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Well, his third ghost story and Mountains have already been announced, and 3993 (the ghost story) is at least partially written, and won't be affected by the strike, whereas there isn't a script for these yet (though they have already decided there needs to be two movies, lol. Milking of the Rings!)

In short, I think we will get at least one more acceptable movie before he starts on these.
 
White Man said:
Well, his third ghost story and Mountains have already been announced, and 3993 (the ghost story) is at least partially written, and won't be affected by the strike, whereas there isn't a script for these yet (though they have already decided there needs to be two movies, lol. Milking of the Rings!)

In short, I think we will get at least one more acceptable movie before he starts on these.
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He also signed for a Tarzan movie.
 
Dan said:
He also signed for a Tarzan movie.
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Wouldn't 3993 be the only movie he can really work on after Hellboy 2, due to the writer's strike? If I can only have one more movie before he goes to the LOTR well, it would be that one. Yes, even over my beloved HPL movie.
 
temp said:
No, he's the asshole that directed Spider-Man 1 and 2 and then had Spider-Man 3 ripped out of his hands by the studios, then placed back after a total car wreck was complete.
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fixed.
 
are both of them going to be 3 hours long

Shoho said:
raimi? is he the asshole that directed spiderman 3?
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he is the asshole who showed us katie's boobs. i didn't want to see them
 
I think the best course of option would be to split the Hobbit into 2 movies. I see no way Silmarrillion can be made into a single movie. There is no way.
 
DarkJediKnight said:
I think the best course of option would be to split the Hobbit into 2 movies. I see no way Silmarrillion can be made into a single movie. There is no way.
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It's the hobbit and a prequel to the LotR, they're not doing the Silmarillion nor are they splitting the hobbit into 2 movies.
 
hmmmmm.

I really, REALLY want this to be good... but, I dunno. I just don't know. Del Toro is a good director, but for LOTR? I...just don't know.
 
Amir0x said:
hmmmmm.

I really, REALLY want this to be good... but, I dunno. I just don't know. Del Toro is a good director, but for LOTR? I...just don't know.
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I think Del Toro is a very similar director to Jackson, so I find this fairly positive. Hoping Jackson really leaves a lot of his polish and that all the actors sign on because Peter J. will be working on it.

Or at least are excited to be working with Del Toro.
 
White Man said:
In short, I think we will get at least one more acceptable movie before he starts on these.
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Not a chance in hell, between the post-production time for Hellboy II and the probably massive pre-production time for The Hobbit. I'm really disappointed as well. I expect he'll do a decent job, but I'd much rather see him doing something weirder (like finally getting At The Mountains of Madness or one of the half-dozen other projects he's still attached to in some capacity off the ground) than picking up Jackson's sloppy seconds.
 
Dan said:
He also signed for a Tarzan movie.
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He's attached to like 6 projects in some capacity, and seems to add at least one more every few months. Off the top of my head, he's attached to do:
--Tarzan
--At The Mountains of Madness
--a remake of Roeg's The Witches
--a redo of the 60s british sci-fi show The Champions
--Deadman (DC comics adaptation)
--The Coffin (graphic novel adaptation, with James Cameron producing -- there's been no word on this in years, though nobody seems willing to actually call it dead yet)
 
FoneBone said:
Not a chance in hell, between the post-production time for Hellboy II and the probably massive pre-production time for The Hobbit. I'm really disappointed as well. I expect he'll do a decent job, but I'd much rather see him doing something weirder (like finally getting At The Mountains of Madness or one of the half-dozen other projects he's still attached to in some capacity off the ground) than picking up Jackson's sloppy seconds.
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What's the word on the writer's strike these days? Is it expected to go on for much longer? At this point, if it doesn't end soon, I really doubt that they can start shooting until late in 2009. Then again, del Toro has been busy and he could probably do well with that much time off.
 
White Man said:
Well, Guillermo is off my hype list now. This is going to be a waste of like 4 years of his time. It's a shame, after Pan's, I really, really wanted to rank him amongst my current favorite directors.
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Whoa, that is amazingly elitist.
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
Whoa, that is amazingly elitist.
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I don't think I'm elitist on this (though I am on plenty of other things). It's pretty simple: I like *his* movies, but I'd rather he not do the whole licensed property thing, especially now that he doesn't really need to. I want him to do his own thing, not play with other people's toys. Not really elitist.
 
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