ChosenPredator
Banned
lol if facebook/twitter had camera that film your every movement like he was doing people would react the same way...but they do the same thing.
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Guy awkwardly video tapes random people
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Vampire On Titus
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It's probably the case, but also kind of hack.
The videos are hilarious though especially the part with the old Asian dudes.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
Yeah exactly, some of the things he did would make me really uncomfortable in the same situation even if he didn't have a camera. Like if some random dude just walked up and sat at my table in a restaurant, I'd be weirded the fuck out.
Barbacoatl
Banned
Of course it will make it worse for him, but who started? Again, why can't he refrain from getting his kicks by perving out on strangers, but we have to refrain from getting fed up of his bullshit? Just trying to give equal opportunity here.
W-what? He never touched anyone, he never approached anyone that close, it was always them coming up on him when they didn't like him filming. And he was hardly being either threatening, combative of conflictive.
abstract alien
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Him going on to attempt harassing someone else is worse than any broken camera/ass beating he would get.
Barbacoatl
Banned
That's your perception. My perception is different. I know I would be uncomfortable as fuck.
The law does not agree.
Barbacoatl
Banned
The law made black people sit separately from whites, that doesn't make it infallible.
The law won't prevent someone from snapping and twisting this assfuck's neck into oblivion. Then it will be the gnashing of teeth.
abstract alien
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The law is a bit of a joke at times, so of course it doesn't. I favor one's comfort of personal space over another's kicks to exploit it.
It's cool that you make up your own definitions of what should be legal and not.
Barbacoatl
Banned
Custom and tradition makes the definition of law. If this maniac gets killed, I can assure you, the law regarding stalkers of this type will change, even if just to protect them from their idiotic endeavors.
Vampire On Titus
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To be fair I don't think that means that he isn't still trying to make a point. The provocation could very well be part of the point he's making. These people are clearly upset and uncomfortable about being filmed but are putting themselves in situations where they're filmed constantly and don't think twice on it.
Chittagong
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Funniest thing I have seen in ages. Some of those videos had me in tears laughing.
As art, I get that it's an attempt to comment on the pervasive CCTV culture, however the comparison falls a bit short when editorial direction is introduced to the mix (him choosing the subjects).
As art, I get that it's an attempt to comment on the pervasive CCTV culture, however the comparison falls a bit short when editorial direction is introduced to the mix (him choosing the subjects).
abstract alien
Member
What definition did I make up? The one about having an opinion?
Barbacoatl
Banned
Art schmart.
Fair enough. I think your opinion is ridiculous though.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
He may be trying to make a point but I think it doesn't hold up very well. The large majority of people are okay with CCTV because it's for the most part there for peoples' safety and to deter/combat crime. On the flip side, a guy shoving a camera in your face feels threatening to a large majority, especially if he keeps coming back after being asked to stop.
Barbacoatl
Banned
Not as ridiculous as filming strangers without consent with what appears to be the intelligence of an albino dolphin, tho' I apologize to albino dolphins.
abstract alien
Member
Guess I fit right in with the law then lol
criesofthepast
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How are you guys saying this is legal? The guy is walking in on a paid classroom and disrupting it. Of course GAF has a defense force for everything.
I'm pretty sure causing a disruption is against the law by the way.
I'm pretty sure causing a disruption is against the law by the way.
section 175 Canadian criminal code said:
Barbacoatl
Banned
But the law!
Freaking creeps.
Freaking creeps.
arguing something's legality isn't the same as defending it. There are many things that are legal that I wouldn't condone. This included.
Vampire On Titus
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I get that, and for the most part agree. The discrepancy is still interesting to consider. People are comfortable with security cameras because they feel like they know it's purpose or they just don't think of it. They're uncomfortable with someone filming them because they're forced to consider it and are unaware of the purpose. Some of the same things that people would be uncomfortable about with the dudes footage (uploading it to the internet, collecting it for bizarre reasons, perceived violated privacy) very well could happen with all the security cameras around everywhere.
Now I don't think that's the norm, and some random dude going around filming people is way more likely to use the footage in some weird uncomfortable way than a security cam. But it's still interesting to consider.
Barbacoatl
Banned
Cctv's don't get up on your face like that. They are at a distance considerable enough to not be as noticeable, making their purpose (getting footage of criminal activity, etc.) more achievable. He's not making any points, he's just being the pathetic excuse for a human being that he is.
I think the whole point of this thing is to make a statement that there are cameras everywhere, and how people feel 'safe' when the video is in the hands of corporations or government (i.e. surveillance) but not when it's in the hands of a citizen.
So if that's what this is, then it wouldn't make sense to take video in a restroom since that's (I think?) illegal for any kind of surveillance.
Legally these videos bring up some funny dilemmas, but tbh I wouldn't look too into that motive and just enjoy it as harmless entertainment until the guy gets murdered or something.
This.
Dat hairline.
Maklershed
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For the people saying this is illegal - how is what this guy doing any different than what TMZ people do to celebrities?
:lol his mother is probably a cunt too amirite?
Calm down duder. Making a point or not (probably the latter), he was successful one way or another since we're all talking about it and have watched the videos.
And as far as your CCTV angle goes, would you then be fine with it if he was video taping you at a distance? Perhaps not noticeable to you, even? At that point you're basically admitting you'd swallow the blue pill.
I have to agree, there may be some sort of potential but the comedic aspect he throws in ruins it a bit, as well as being a bit of an excessive dick.
But holy shit, that poor lady who was begging him to have sex with her had me crying and laughing so hard.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Sp, did he party with that one girl?
Barbacoatl
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I don't know what this has to do with his mom. And no, I'm not ok with him filming me at any distance. Guy is a major freak.
He's making a point? What a load of shit.
CCTV videos don't get right up in my face, distract me and annoy me. They're not uploaded to the internet for everyone to watch.
This douche makes it personal and what a horrendous way to try and 'make a point'.
Also, CCTV helps catch criminals. This asshole is helping no one. :lol at the people supporting him.
CCTV videos don't get right up in my face, distract me and annoy me. They're not uploaded to the internet for everyone to watch.
This douche makes it personal and what a horrendous way to try and 'make a point'.
Also, CCTV helps catch criminals. This asshole is helping no one. :lol at the people supporting him.
Oh really? Not being able to beat up someone who is taping random people is somehow akin to a racist law?
I'm curious, how would you implement this genius idea of yours? People who use a videocamera in public, while pointing it at someone, can get jailtime? A fine? Is it just anyone that uses a videocamera, or just people who are 'creepy' (in your opinion). Or just people who are 'looking for confrontation' in your opinion? What about videocameras installed in public places, why would they be treated differently, and how do you reflect that in the law?
Either way, I object to you using an argument that the law is wrong in this case, there are valid situations in which you can use this argument, but this is not one. Unless you have some awesome idea, I'm hazarding a guess that your version of the law would be the irrational one.
Posting the video on youtube is illegal though, isn't it? It's using the likeness of others, without consent for commercial gain.
Barbacoatl
Banned
I wasn't equating this to racial law, that was just a poor example of the fallibillity of the law through time.
Are you familiar with harassment laws? The same would apply here, in my utopia of respect to the others.
Harassment: agressive pressure or intimidation. That's what he's doing.
Not to mention the commercial restrictions he violates.
Are you familiar with harassment laws? The same would apply here, in my utopia of respect to the others.
Harassment: agressive pressure or intimidation. That's what he's doing.
Not to mention the commercial restrictions he violates.
Filming people without their consent, not blurring their faces and not stopping after their request. Is that specific enough for you?
You should never be filmed fully head on and have that video on the internet without consent. IF he blurred their faces the video wouldn't be as bad. However, the asshole doesn't.
How anyone can put this on the same level as CCTV is beyond me.
Lazy Jones
Member
No, he never did.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Oppo
Member
The very cynical part of me wants to go out and find another Trip Warhawkins/SalsaShark, point my camera, wait for the punch and collect that phat cheque for assault in a few months. Seems easy.
The correct responses are: film the guy back, walk away, walk to private property, etc.
He is being obnoxious but assault is a completely over the top response, quite literally picking a fight "cause he looked at me funny".
also - if this guy was acting the EXACT same way, but had a shoulder mounted camera with a logo on it, people would have probably mostly ignored him, or perhaps even engaged for a chance to be "on TV".
The correct responses are: film the guy back, walk away, walk to private property, etc.
He is being obnoxious but assault is a completely over the top response, quite literally picking a fight "cause he looked at me funny".
also - if this guy was acting the EXACT same way, but had a shoulder mounted camera with a logo on it, people would have probably mostly ignored him, or perhaps even engaged for a chance to be "on TV".
People also act exactly this way as soon as they see anything worthwhile to upload to youtube. Some crazy woman walking on the street, hitting cars? Film it using your iPhone. So I really don't understand the problem.
Him going into classrooms? Yeah, that pushed it too far. Everything else totally fine.
NaughtyCalibur
Member
That would actually make for an interesting next step in his social experiment in my opinion, as I've experienced this first-hand myself.
When I made this Chocobo video, I didn't ask for the people's permission until after the fact, and not a single person gave a shit that I was recording them. The main reason being that I had a camera crew and about $10,000 worth of professional equipment. If the camera and gear looks 'legit' it seems people are more willing to be on camera, and many actually jump in front of the camera just for screen time.
Had I done the video using a $200 hand cam you can buy at Walmart I doubt I would have had the same results.
But I don't think that's the point he's trying to make. It's clear he's just making a point regarding the almost ubiquitous nature of public surveillance, and I get that. The only problem is that people are clear on the purpose and intent of surveillance cameras, yet have no idea who this individual person is nor what he intends to use the footage for.
What I think makes for a better point is how personal cameras are becoming smaller, cheaper and more prevalent than ever before, and how it potentially won't be too long before practically everyone has eyeglasses and contact lenses that can snap photos and record video whenever they want, essentially eliminating any form of privacy while in public. That is a scary thought to some, and rightfully so.
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