I'm not sure that you do. I don't agree with everything he did, but he was far from how poorly people responded to him.
I used to have a job where I filmed people for a living. The reactions people make are sometimes priceless.
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I'm not sure that you do. I don't agree with everything he did, but he was far from how poorly people responded to him.
I used to have a job where I filmed people for a living. The reactions people make are sometimes priceless.
The amount of internet-tough-guys in this thread is astounding.
You wouldn't do shit if you knew me in real life, specially since I'm not the guy with the camera. I'm just saying that you give up privacy in public spaces and you can't opt out of human interaction - and newsflash - some of that interaction may bother you, be it some weirdo with a camera, a street preacher, crazy hobo, or a busker playing some terrible song or whatever.
If it bothers you just carry on.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Unless you're a weirdo yourself I doubt a 30s clip of a random person on youtube is gonna get many views or be talked about much. Ever got your face on the big screen at a stadium? Same thing.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Didn't OogieBoogie post this in the cringe vids thread? Eh well, didn't know there was a third vid to this
Agreed. But dude, 'curtesy'
yeah, that was hilarious. That and the small black girl that wanted to party with him for $10
bort
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lolwut
its all about if they in public places or private places
paparazzi won't follow celebrities into stores or restaurants or buildings because they can't
once they come outside it's okay
so anyone getting their picture taken outside in these is fine the ones inside aren't
ihearthawthats
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interesting videos, not very funny but they do kinda make you think. however, i think there's a difference between surveillance camera's and these videos. surveillance cameras often intend to serve a purpose of security, even if they may or may not violate privacy. the man filming has a less clear purpose, and refusing to state his purpose after being asked doesn't help either. also, many other issues other than privacy start to appear such as one of disrespect.
let's pretend that he didn't have a camera, and instead was just watching and staring at people. imo, he would get very similar responses. seriously, just sitting down at someone's table when he's talking on the phone and just staring at him and listening to him, you don't think he'd ask that person to leave? you don't think that distracting a classroom when a teacher is trying to teach won't elicit the teacher asking that person to leave?
also, i'm surprised that no one whipped out their smartphone and started filming back. have a staredown contest. it's fun when someone tries to purposely annoy you, and then they're the ones that end up getting annoyed instead.
Keavy_Rain
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Dear "I'd punch that guy and/or break his camera" people,
An eye for an eye and the world goes blind.
I assure each and every one of you that you have, at one time, done something to someone that was either intentional or unintentional that people may deem worthy of you deserving an ass beating or the destruction of your personal property.
I can also guarantee you'd feel wronged if you were harmed or had your property damaged.
In conclusion, accept the fact that being an individual in a society means you have to deal with things you don't like and you are powerless to stop it because doing so means people can stop you from doing things that you do that they don't like.
P.S. Yes, I am aware I repeated myself multiple times. I did so because I want you to get that point through your thick skulls.
An eye for an eye and the world goes blind.
I assure each and every one of you that you have, at one time, done something to someone that was either intentional or unintentional that people may deem worthy of you deserving an ass beating or the destruction of your personal property.
I can also guarantee you'd feel wronged if you were harmed or had your property damaged.
In conclusion, accept the fact that being an individual in a society means you have to deal with things you don't like and you are powerless to stop it because doing so means people can stop you from doing things that you do that they don't like.
P.S. Yes, I am aware I repeated myself multiple times. I did so because I want you to get that point through your thick skulls.
Fury Sense
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What kind of person doesn't fuck off when he's told? Someone that deserves a more firm form of communication. POW!
These are the things I'd do to this individual:
a) Beat him up
b) Break his camera
c) Do both A+B
d) Walk away
e) Take camera and remove SD Card. Keep card and let him be.
Im thinking (e) but Id like to beat the hell out of him for invading my personal space.
Just because you are in a public area doesnt mean anyone can come up to do and be a weirdo. Hell the authorities tell you to say something if you see something odd or weird which this individual is doing. You never know who will do what in modern times. For all we know, this idiot could be the next guy who shoots up people in a theater. Fuck those loonies.
a) Beat him up
b) Break his camera
c) Do both A+B
d) Walk away
e) Take camera and remove SD Card. Keep card and let him be.
Im thinking (e) but Id like to beat the hell out of him for invading my personal space.
Just because you are in a public area doesnt mean anyone can come up to do and be a weirdo. Hell the authorities tell you to say something if you see something odd or weird which this individual is doing. You never know who will do what in modern times. For all we know, this idiot could be the next guy who shoots up people in a theater. Fuck those loonies.
ckohler said:
he sorta just stands there and allows them to push their own buttons.
where do i report violently paranoid forum posturers?
Ninja Scooter
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No I don't think he is "wrong" socially. If you are sitting on a park bench minding your own business and someone comes up, sits next to you and starts hitting on you are they "wrong" socially? THey are invading your personal space, right? But most likely you would just get up and walk away if they persisted. I doubt you would threaten to punch them in the face, or destroy their property, or call the police. I'm not a "supporter" of his. I very much think he is trying to be annoying. I just find people's reactions to it just because there's a camera involved fascinating. I find bums that ask me for money annoying. I sometimes find people standing on the street corner playing a guitar and singing annoying. Doesn't mean I'm going to assault them or call the cops.
If we're intelligent and follow statistics we know that in "modern times" violent crime rates are lower than they've been in 40 years, so chances are lower in modern times that someone wants to hurt us.
But I get it. I really do. Fear and hysteria rule the day.
People can make a slightly unusual face and become some dumb meme that is everywhere.
And there is a huge difference between security cameras and what this guy is doing.
GalacticSushiman
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Mmmm, if he gets lots of views on youtube, he will generate a substancial amount of money from advertising, and in this case it becomes illegal...
Keavy_Rain
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Oh, no! I don't want to be Bed Intruder, McKayla Maroney, or Overly Attached Girlfriend!
Better stay inside, post on GAF, and wait for death.
Ninja Scooter
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Call the cops I might become a meme!
If some guy/girl hits on you, then you walk away. OK both leave.
If some asshat comes up to you sits next to you and records you telling them to F off then you leave. Afterwards that same person uploads the video to youtube so people can have a laugh at you being pissed off by this stranger and maybe this person wanking off to your footage as well, who knows. (we dont know all the footage he takes for instance of women)
Different things here. This shouldnt be encouraged. This person is not making a point about "big brother" or cameras being all over the place. I dont see a camera in my face when I go out in a public area but maybe from a weirdo asshole instead. If he has a problem, he should do something with his community or contact his local government officials etc.
Last thing ill say on this matter is someone has to take this person's picture and post it online for all to see. He wants to post videos of folks online, fine. But his mug should be posted online aswell. That way if folks see him out there people can just walk away or be ready to deal with him.
I think we should all put duct tape up around our houses and stay inside until the danger passes.
Ninja Scooter
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Not different things at all. That person could be thinking of you later when they "wank". The point is that both are annoyances.
First of all, there are three different videos with varying encounters, so the following applies generally.
1. Yes, he's being rude, and even an ass. *gasp*
2. No, he isn't bullying, or harassing (though he's almost harassing in some few cases).
3. No, you don't have the right to punch him in the face.
4. No, you're not entitled to feel comfortable in a public space.
5. Yes, in some of these cases threatening to call the cops is understandable if verbal communication fails.
Is what he's doing illegal? No. Annoying, or 'socially wrong', of course. But that's the nature of freedom. A guy has the right to be blasting music at loud volume in a public space, even if it 'invades your space'. Yes that guy would be a dick, but no you wouldn't have the right to break his iPod. Same deal, unspoken rules of common courtesy don't always need to be abided by, USA 'n all that.
Are we watching two different videos here? Joke post? I'm confused.
1. Yes, he's being rude, and even an ass. *gasp*
2. No, he isn't bullying, or harassing (though he's almost harassing in some few cases).
3. No, you don't have the right to punch him in the face.
4. No, you're not entitled to feel comfortable in a public space.
5. Yes, in some of these cases threatening to call the cops is understandable if verbal communication fails.
Is what he's doing illegal? No. Annoying, or 'socially wrong', of course. But that's the nature of freedom. A guy has the right to be blasting music at loud volume in a public space, even if it 'invades your space'. Yes that guy would be a dick, but no you wouldn't have the right to break his iPod. Same deal, unspoken rules of common courtesy don't always need to be abided by, USA 'n all that.
Guy standing there video taping you = guy damaging property causing a ruckus ?
Are we watching two different videos here? Joke post? I'm confused.
Either that, or just people on the internet with pitchforks saying they're offended, appalled, and wish to inflict bodily harm on some random person. Nothing new.
I'm just saying that there is no guarantee that the video will be forgotten, and some of those people could be really shy.
I'm pretty sure the people you mentioned wanted to be filmed.
You're right, I mean it's not like they need their permission and consent to film people. Laws? What laws lololololo
Air Zombie Meat
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Weird thread. I found it interesting to see peoples reactions. Of course it's rude but he's not actually hurting anyone.
S-s-sir, c-c-can I q-quote you?
ConradCervantes
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While he is within his legal rights, the guy is being a rude asshole, especially when people request that he stop. It's called decency, and people should be able to expect that from one another. I wouldn't punch him, but I'd certainly be annoyed with his conduct.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It's not physically hurting anyone, but deliberately making people uncomfortable for your own amusement does qualify as harm, even if it's relatively miniscule. Verbal harassment is not physically harmful, but people clearly recognize it as a harm. The question, for me, in judging this action is simply "is he doing more harm than good?" I believe he is, so I believe his actions are wrong.
It's really not. There's some level at which, yes, you are being filmed in public. So maybe you should react the same way to both. But that ignores the contextual distinction between the personal and the impersonal. Normal human psychology will dictate that we react differently to a person specifically filming us than to an automated camera, even if someone somewhere is watching it or could potentially watch it.
If we're going to accuse everyone who is offended of being insecure, I'll go ahead and accuse the defenders of his behavior of being borderline autistic in their understanding of why people react the way they do.
Alligatorjandro
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Someone should film him
None of which says anything to counter my hypocrisy claim. Your personal level of comfort of each circumstance isn't mine, nor is it a logical counter argument.
I have long been a student of psychology. If anything, my understanding is based on education. But thanks for playing!
Ninja Scooter
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Too late you're already a meme!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Your claim that it's hypocritical requires that a person see the two situations as being the same. It's very easy, and natural, for a person to see them as different. How can you prove that your perception of them being the same is the one true way to see it? I shouldn't even have to say this, but there is clearly a difference of some degree between passive, stationary video cameras and a person seeking you out and filming you. We can disagree about the importance of this difference, but it's hard to argue there's no difference at all. The importance of this difference is going to be subjective, which is another reason your firm claim that everyone who sees things a certain way is an insecure hypocrite is untenable.
Tell me more about how your reading of this situation is informed by your education in psychology.
Air Zombie Meat
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Thats a fair view and I somewhat agree. But I was more referring to the extreme anger and suggesting violence as a response.
Also to anyone who reacted like that; if you are someone who defends the rights of people like Westboro to picket funerals with offensive signs and chants then you are a hypocrite.
You're right, you don't need permission or consent to film people in public spaces. That's the law.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Yeah, I wasn't trying to take sides with either the face-punchers or the "he's making an important social statement" group. I was just addressing the harm point specifically.
Tornado Condor
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Would it be illegal to break this guy's camera?
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