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Guy doesn't leave tip because of... Obama
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Oh, aw
At least it wasn't done with malice.Mmm, I got a 75% tip once. It was glorious.
RustyNails
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Even when I was a broke ass college kid, I paid tips if we went to a nice restaurant. A couple of bucks is not going to make you poor.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Oh, aw
After that, me and my brother convinced out parents tipping rates of 10-15% were normal in the US. He still din't like it, but at least no one came running after us during that vacation.
Choke on the Magic
Banned
It's not about being poor. The card real or fake is a political statement and very lame.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Need some, "thanks, Obama!" gifs in here.
legacyzero
Banned
Its not even that he didn't tip that pisses me off. Its the bullshit reason, and the fact that he left that card all but mocks the server.
Can anybody confirm?
Choke on the Magic
Banned
If you do not make up your tip allowance, the employer by law should reimburse them up to the minimum wage standard. This is law, as far as I know.
So why don't they point this out to their employers? They are technically breaking the law.
Also, I respect every culture, but I ain't going to tip unless the service I get is really good. Regardless of whether it is 'American Culture' because I'm going to be in a restaurant once and that is the only custom I will blatantly disrespect. Fuck that custom.
It's worth noting that I excitedly looked for this poor dude's location to see if the people I knew of had left the card, and he's in South Dakota, they're in NoVA. It's the exact same card. So either they left it while on vacation, someone saw their card and decided to copy it or there's a template floating around for assholes like this to use.
Edit: Ugh. Please tip, members of GAF. I worked as a waitress in college, and receiving a card like this is basically like having someone spit in your face. Not receiving a tip despite good service is akin to someone just writing, "Fuck you," on the tip line.
Edit: Ugh. Please tip, members of GAF. I worked as a waitress in college, and receiving a card like this is basically like having someone spit in your face. Not receiving a tip despite good service is akin to someone just writing, "Fuck you," on the tip line.
Wow - what a great guy.
Choke on the Magic
Banned
This is how it's supposed to work.
Tipping a standard amount (percentage) in the US is an indication of satisfactory service.
Tipping above that amount is an indication of exceptional service (the phrase "above and beyond," which people keep citing as the circumstance under which they'll tip at all).
Tipping below that amount or not tipping at all is an indication of unsatisfactory or poor service.
They like having a job.
By disrespecting our 'culture' all you're really doing is fucking over the waiter or waitress. Hope you feel good about that man. Fight the power rabble rabble.
shadowsdarknes
Member
What country are you from?
Fox Mulder
Member
It's not my fault an entire industry is subsidized by tips. There's a mandated minimum wage, getting $2 an hour is insane.
I'll tip if I like the server, but I'm going to be guilted into it. I give my supercuts barber a $20 tip because she's a hot milf.
heliosRAzi
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Choke on the Magic
Banned
Supercuts? ha. haha.
I kind of get where you are coming from, "why should I subsidize the restaurants for paying their waiters/waitresses dirt cheap?." It would be different if the restaurants paid the servers the minimum wage anyway, and tips would just be extra for good service. The food would cost significantly more though, but on the other hand I wouldn't feel obligated to tip for subpar service.
A $20 tip because she's hot lol... Please tell me she's actually good at cutting hair?
Steve Youngblood
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Yeah, it's probably fake. But if it isn't? This is a pretty good grassroots campaign. Get a few more people doing this, and suddenly the tip-based industry is on board with the notion that Obama's hurting their bottom line. It really wouldn't bode well for Obama's reelection chances, right?
anotherVegan
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The restaurants will raise prices if they need to to maintain their profit margin, but the only people who hurts are the servers.
I am all for a grassroots campaign as long as it doesn't hurt innocent bystanders.
dude, it's supercuts. (no)
in the constitution it's written that if a minority becomes president for two terms then they are now the president of forever.
lol
Not if you've gone Galt.
Are you referring to President-For-Life B. Hussein Obama?
WickedCobra03
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Yet they have the funds to print off custom cards to leave? I dunno, seems like a dumb person who is just trying to be clever.
You should NOT feel obligated to tip for subpar service. Actually, as an indication of subpar service you may want to leave a very tiny tip, just to indicate that it wasn't a lapse of mind.
You should feel (and are) societally obligated to tip for satisfactory service. This arrangement is really not enjoyable for anyone but employers (or "job creators," to use the lovely parlance of those who might leave such a card on the table). Servers don't want to have to count on the whims of an individual customer for their income; customers don't want to pay more than the advertised price. It sucks, but it is very much the way it is. This next part is key: not tipping out of disgust with the system is not going to change it.
On an individual basis, if your service was satisfactory, and you don't tip, you do nothing but punish an inherently low-paid worker who is providing you with a service that is, by nature, an absolute luxury. To not see it this way is a classic case of an entitlement worldview.
The ultimate irony here is that, anecdotally speaking as someone who worked as a tipped employee for several years, not tipping as a "movement" will eventually lead to the opposite of what the non-tippers (as defined by the "Thanks, Obama" card) purport to desire.
What do I mean? Working as a tipped employee in the service industry means you're by definition at the bottom of the barrel in terms of the employment world. No one seeks such a position instead of a job with a consistent and competitve non-variable hourly rate, nor even the lowliest of salaried positions. They do it because they need the money and there is such high turnover (many restaurants hire for these positions with no career track for the hires in mind whatsoever) that the positions are usually available year-round.
I worked as a driver delivering pizza in a relatively poor subset of a large market. Some of my coworkers made more than me, some less, for working the same hours and taking the same number of runs. But when the tips were consistently low enough, when they ended up making a small enough amount of money for their efforts, several friends I made there quit in frustration. They almost universally sought food stamps. At least one of them eventually qualified for and received welfare.
Instead of being motivated by their low pay and perceived disrespect by those they were serving to stick it out and climb a career ladder that might not even exist- they began the disgraced slide into functional unemployment. I can't even truly begrudge them; on a very bad night in southeast Gainesville, when you exited the day with 1/3rd or more of your runs not having tipped, it was incredibly demoralizing. There were times (on average, I'd say once per 6-8 hour shift) where because of the inadequate reimbursement for gasoline, if I was not tipped, I ended up technically paying a few cents for the run to bring someone their pizza and coke. Yes, I stuck it out, because the job market was god-awful and college expenses included stuff like a damn 10-sheet workbook with a laminated cover for almost $40. But others, especially those trying to make an actual living (not just defray the costs of living expenses as a student on scholarship) did not. Obviously I was still making more than them when they quit and sought social assistance, but it's a textbook example of how entire swaths of the population get pushed out of the bottom of the job market rather than rising to just above ground-level.
From the perpsective of the kind of person leaving this card on the table in place of a few dollars, the friends and coworkers I'm talking about descended to the level of "social parasite" that they so claim to abhor. Not tipping on principle doesn't have the net effect of changing the system to any degree to benefit the employee or the customer; it has the net effect of encouraging people who should be seeking upward social mobility to stop.
Do I wish that American societal structure in the free marketplace had been erected such that all work was adequately incentivized with pay from the employer? Of course. I'd love it if tipping a dollar meant that the service I received was one dollar's worth better than I expected. But it doesn't work that way.
So tip.
cool_dude_2049
Banned
My paycheck is going to be $25 less on Friday than it normally is. I make about $32,000 a year. Well, not anymore
Woah. Whatever that dude was trying to accomplish, I am happy that he failed. Thanks Obama indeed.
JordanLMiller
Member
My paycheck is going to be $25 less on Friday than it normally is. I make about $32,000 a year. Well, not anymore
I'm actually laughing out loud. Great gif!
Couldn't he at least print a tip on the card?
Anyone who leaves that as an actual tip is my hero.
Choke on the Magic
Banned
What.
Bzzzzzzt.
2% of the first $113,700 in wages for social security (employee contributions only).
You only tip if you are ok with the service given. I always tip, except when the waiter complains about the tip or if it is already added in the receipt, then I complain and tip(or don't) depending on the mood
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