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[alr1ght]

wrong you could run through all the console IDs you want. Brute force.

lol, good luck when they get one in 2456.

 

[BritBloke916]

wrong you could run through all the console IDs you want. Brute force.

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

 

[Revolutionary]

Prediction of tomorrow's thread: "Hackers can use PS3 as an EMP bomb!"

 

[xbhaskarx]

Hackers gave me AIDS

 

[V_Ben]

Hackers can send rogue power surges through PSN, overloading the console and making everything explode. Beware.

 

[Lebron]

They've become self-aware

 

[Mama Robotnik]

If this is true, then its a living Hell for Sony. Couldn't imagine a worse counter to their banwaves. Its also immensely bad news for any PS3 owners who are unawares they could be banned at any moment due to their console id being cloned.

That's if this is true, of course. Until we see more evidence, then I'm not convinced. Probably made up.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Hackers gave me AIDS

But not the cancerous AIDS?

 

[MThanded]

They may be using alternate ID on top of PSID. maybe internal hardware ids like drives etc.

http://www.ps3-hacks.org/psidpatch-1-0-arrives-change-your-ps-id-for-playstation-network.html

From the above site.

Edit: Although I haven't personally examined this online, facanferff has explained that shifting their PSID to a random 1 and going on PSN with a banned console doesn't perform. I'm assuming that PSN operates in a whitelist way, only permitting PS3s with PSIDs inside the Authorised database on the internet or a thing. They could even use other components of the PS3 for identification, these kinds of as BD-ROM serial or MAC address.

I am interested to see how this plays out.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Prediction of tomorrow's thread: "Hackers can use PS3 as an EMP bomb!"

Next week "Hackers got your mom pregnant again"

 

[kodt]

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

Perhaps, but if the bans were automatic it would be pretty funny for a while. Maybe Sony would reverse the bans but it could create enough bad press to force Sony to stop banning consoles.

 

[VAIL]

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

They could Bruteforce the id's in separate chunks from different locals....If someone actually managed what the op is talking about it's gonna get really fucking messy out there...I might just leave my ps3 off for a while.

 

[ViolentP]

Be afraid, all of you. Don't log into PSN until it all blows over. Speed up my downloads.

 

[darkwing]

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

hackers can spoof IP addresses

 

[AmericanNinja]

boy these hacker punks are trying anything. You are losing the fight hackers move on.

 

[mollipen]

People, no one can get your Console ID. If they don't have your Console ID, they can't spoof it and get it banned.

Why would they have to get my console ID in order to spoof it? Somebody needs a new key, they have some system to generate them, they generate X (X being the full key). Just so happens that X is my system key. Sony sees console X doing naughty things, bans the console with the system key of X, person gets banned (until they generate a new code), but so do I, because X was my key.

Is that not one of the possibilities here? Kind of like how there have been examples of games where you needed a one-time use key in order to register the game, but a few people found their games already listed as registered because somebody else had happened to generate the exact same key when pirating the game.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Damn hackers.

 

[MThanded]

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

The internet how does it work.

 

[Vorador]

This is a clusterfuck.

 

[[Nintex]]

Great, so all "hackers" are automatically guilty of doing something malicious now?

Nope all youtube users are.

 

[MThanded]

how would Sony know which PSID is valid in the first place? they won't know who to persecute lol

they most likely keep a local database of valid PSN IDs just like phone companies know the ESN IDs for cdma phones allowed on their network.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

is it wrong that i kind of want to see how this would play out?

I would push that button for the lulz. from my mates house.

 

[alr1ght]

Why would they have to get my console ID in order to spoof it? Somebody needs a new key, they have some system to generate them, they generate X (X being the full key). Just so happens that X is my system key. Sony sees console X doing naughty things, bans the console with the system key of X, person gets banned (until they generate a new code), but so do I, because X was my key.

Is that not one of the possibilities here? Kind of like how there have been examples of games where you needed a one-time use key in order to register the game, but a few people found their games already listed as registered because somebody else had happened to generate the exact same key when pirating the game.

and how would they get that magical key generator? If they did have a magical key generator, then yes this could happen.

 

[offshore]

I don't understand; where is this application getting the serial/console ID's from?

 

[Mama Robotnik]

boy these hacker punks are trying anything. You are losing the fight hackers move on.

(1) This story is probably not true.

(2) I've never known hackers to lose the fight. See the 360. No matter how many consoles are banned, they keep on coming back.

 

[maniac-kun]

If my console ends up banned... i dont know what i would do.

 

[VAIL]

and how would they get that magical key generator? If they did have a magical key generator, then yes this could happen.

Did you forget someone got a "magical key" and started this whole thing?

 

[alr1ght]

I don't understand; where is this application getting the serial/console ID's from?

nowhere. It's just bullshit "journalism" to get hits.

 

[Mr_Brit]

they most likely keep a local database of valid PSN IDs just like phone companies know the ESN IDs for cdma phones.

Sony can just patch in a new banning system with a firmware update, whilst that wouldn't help with consoles that are already banned, it would stop this new hack in its place.

 

[bathala]

hackers could do anything on PS3 except outsell Wii.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Sony wouldn't be a little dubious at the sudden arrival of billions of sequential console ID's originating from the same IP address?

That's why people use proxies for anything that involves brute force. Every request is sent from a different IP address.

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi to everyone else in this thread, I'll see you in court.

 

[ultron87]

This will only truly be bad if they manage to whip up a working Console ID generator.

 

[FJ0372]

This is absurd. Hopefully any 'hacker' caught banning other PSN members will be dealt with appropriately.

 

[alr1ght]

Did you forget someone got a "magical key" and started this whole thing?

completely different. The database of legit console IDs isn't on anything locally.

 

[ViolentP]

(1) This story is probably not true.

(2) I've never known hackers to lose the fight. See the 360. No matter how many consoles are banned, they keep on coming back.

Hackers. Even when they win, they're still losers.

 

[Rapstah]

if code is on list of codes we know for sure haven't been used and never will be;

remotely destroy console;

end

 

[darkwing]

and how would they get that magical key generator? If they did have a magical key generator, then yes this could happen.

they got the master key.....

 

[Noshino]

Great, so all "hackers" are automatically guilty of doing something malicious now?

Not, not all are.

But they did open the gates.... had it not been for the "hackers", none of this stupid back and forth would have happened.

 

[Danielsan]

This will only truly be bad if they manage to whip up a working Console ID generator.

Exactly which isn't going to happen.
If whipping up key generators was this easy people would get rich as hell by creating key gens for certain online stores.

they got the master key.....

Not for console IDs they don't.

 

[Suairyu]

If true, this is an outrageous failure on SONY's system rather than an excuse to hate the vague amalgamation of 'hackers'.

 

[MThanded]

What is the length of the PSID? Does anyone know?

 

[Dartastic]

I can only laugh at this, really nothing else.

Basically.

 

[Mailenstein]

This whole mess could turn out pretty funny lol.

 

[Drkirby]

I wonder if you could use this to deactivate a dead or sold PS3.

 

[bestami]

Someone posts a thing, in minutes there are dozens of posts, turns out it is not true or exagurated, thread gets locked or people move on, someone posts another thing... I really think we don't need 5 different threads about this whole ordeal. Frankly it is getting a bit boring and tiring.

 

[Azure J]

This whole is shaping up like the Cold War of video game culture.

 

[hamchan]

If true, this is an outrageous failure on SONY's system rather than an excuse to hate the vague amalgamation of 'hackers'.

I think it's perfectly fine to start hating hackers if you get banned from this.

 

[navanman]

I don't understand; where is this application getting the serial/console ID's from?

Nowhere. This seems to be based off the false story from yesterday that all PSN traffic is not encrypted and in plain text format just with an added twist to make it look scary.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Perhaps, but if the bans were automatic it would be pretty funny for a while. Maybe Sony would reverse the bans but it could create enough bad press to force Sony to stop banning consoles.

Yeah, but then what? They just sit back and watch PSN fall apart as game after game falls to the same fate as MW2?

 

[VAIL]

completely different. The database of legit console IDs isn't on anything locally.

But it IS connected to the internet in some form, someone can sniff that stream and fish out what they need, as good as security is at ANY company, there is a hacker who is better....