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[deejay8595]

You know, for this being the internet, it's amazing how many people obviously can't read.

I don't go to clubs any more. I haven't been for years. I'm not the OP. I'm not down with random strangers touching my family. I'm a protective person. that's the end of it. The rest of gaf can try to psychoanalyze me all the want and play armchair therapist. Doesn't matter to me.

I was responding to your comment

Because it's some random stranger, a person I don't know, touching my WIFE.

 

[RoninChaos]

This thread is full of guys who are "that creeper" and don't even know it.

Don't act like its an overreaction to be protective of your wife in this (or any) situation, or act like its the wife's job to handle it. Women usually want to avoid confrontation, it's the man's job to take up the slack.

Girls get drugged nightly at bars everywhere, the male of our species is predatory and desperate.

I think a lot of these white knights or soft batch "men" in this thread don't live in the real world.

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only man here.

oh, and Kung Fu Jedi, think what you want. Why do you have a problem with how I conduct myself in regards to my family?

 

[CornBurrito]

Worse things have happened.

Meaning?

 

[Mr. Fix]

Snip

Are you talking about Ronin, or the OP? Ronin's reaction would definitely be overboard. My problem with the OP is how he believes he tried to avoid a fight, when he was pretty much provoking/asking for it.

 

[Chiggs]

This is a fucking awful thread. Some of the comments in here are "legendary" in the worst possible way.

Congrats, Acid House.

the male of our species is predatory and desperate

 

[freenudemacusers]

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only man here.

lol come on dude.

 

[RoninChaos]

I was responding to your comment

So if some random person was touching your wife, regardless of the situation, you'd just sit there?

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

This thread is full of guys who are "that creeper" and don't even know it.

Don't act like its an overreaction to be protective of your wife in this (or any) situation, or act like its the wife's job to handle it. Women usually want to avoid confrontation, it's the man's job to take up the slack.

Girls get drugged nightly at bars everywhere, the male of our species is predatory and desperate.

I think a lot of these white knights or soft batch "men" in this thread don't live in the real world.

We can hable ourselves just fine, thank you.
Stop fucking treating women like your posessions that need protection.

This thread is getting insulting.

 

[CornBurrito]

So if some random person was touching your wife, regardless of the situation, you'd just sit there?

It depends on the situation.

If she says "no" and the dude doesn't stop, then I'd step in.

Otherwise there really is no need to escalate the situation.

 

[bro1]

Because it's some random stranger, a person I don't know, touching my WIFE. That has nothing to do with insecurity and you're an idiot if you think it does. It's not like I think she's going to run off, rip her clothes off and fuck the guy because she was touched. If that was my thought process, then yes, I'd be insecure. But it isn't. You're just projecting that on me because you don't know me. And instead of actually asking why I feel this way, you threw out the insecurity card. Which is stupid.

I'm not insecure about my wife or her actions. I don't want a stranger randomly touching my family. If some random person started touching my kid, I'd do the same thing. Where's the insecurity in that?

Oh wait. There isn't any. I'm just protective. And that isn't the same as insecure.

ok, I get it. you are protective. still not sure why you would go all "hulk smash" for somebody touching your wife in a friendly manner. It's one thing if they are groping her, it's a whole different thing if they touch her arm.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only man here.

oh, and Kung Fu Jedi, think what you want. Why do you have a problem with how I conduct myself in regards to my family?

How you conduct yourself in regards to your family is your business, of that I'll agree. I was just pointing out how not normal it is to say you'll break someones hand for touching your wife, particularly in the context of the OP. As I've said several times, I can understand if it is some kind of inappropriate touching, but a guy simply putting his hand on her shoulder is hardly grounds for breaking anything.

As I've also said, this is not a normal response, but hey more power to you. But just so you know, having this kind of response doesn't make you a man in any sense of the word.

 

[freenudemacusers]

So if some random person was touching your wife, regardless of the situation, you'd just sit there?

no, a normal person/male, wise to the nature of crowded and loud social gatherings, would approach the situation as described in the OP and introduce himself as the husband or boyfriend of the woman. there, chaos diffused. you think random club guy is checking for wedding bands?

or just start windmilling.

 

[Risible]

You want an honest answer to your title question? You come across as a douche. You're married with a two year old and out clubbing and instigating fights. Yes, I read the OP, and yes, you handled it poorly enough to turn it into a fight situation. Time to grow up.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

no, a normal person/male, wise to the nature of crowded and loud social gatherings, would approach the situation as described in the OP and introduce himself as the husband or boyfriend of the woman. there, chaos diffused. you think random club guy is checking for wedding bands?

or just start windmilling.

Yeah man, some people just make mistakes. Can't go around knocking out every man that hits on your wife without knowing.

On the other hand the OP is living up to the typical club douchebag stereotype so I guess it works out.

 

[RoninChaos]

ok, I get it. you are protective. still not sure why you would go all "hulk smash" for somebody touching your wife in a friendly manner. It's one thing if they are groping her, it's a whole different thing if they touch her arm.

C'mon, son. no guy touching a chick at a club is doing so in a friendly manner. Everybody knows what that dude is doing. Obviously you guys look at this differently compared to me, and that's cool. If most of you would just stand back while another person touches your wife, more power to you. In the context of the op, which is the context I'm speaking to, I think it can be assumed we know what the guy's intentions were.

In regards to other situations, like one where my wife was bumped into at a store or something, as I stated previously, I"m not going to go all hulk smash. I keep repeating this. Not sure why it's not sinking in. Maybe it's because the rest of the people reading this and replying seem to keep thinking I said one thing, even though it's in black and white. I guess it's a lot more fun to argue a point I didn't make.

I do know this though, that mother fucker better not dance back.

 

[CornBurrito]

no, a normal person/male, wise to the nature of crowded and loud social gatherings, would approach the situation as described in the OP and introduce himself as the husband or boyfriend of the woman. there, chaos diffused. you think random club guy is checking for wedding bands?

Ronin lives in an action movie where words have no power.

"No, I'm married." or "No. She's married." won't hinder 99.99% of the male population. Every male but Ronin is a rapist looking specifically to fuck his wife.

If most of you would just stand back while another person touches your wife, more power to you.

Oh right, I forgot the part where all women are helpless vixens and cannot say no. A male touching them on the arm leaves them absolutely powerless to say anything and they need me to step in before it even gets to that point.

 

[MikeHaggar]

Cool story bro.

Seriously, though... that was a cool story. I'm going down the same path and just simply avoid getting into fights, until...

Even then, your "wife" should have put a stop on it from the gate. Or... maybe she gets off on that kind of attention at the club.

I had a girlfriend that was drop dead gorgeous(puerto rican), yet would stop a dude cold way before he even thought of approaching her, when she was with me. And she was just my girlfriend. Just saying.

this. that's the kind of girl you want. not the kind that gets off on encouraging other men to flirt with her in front of you so she can see how you react.

 

[Ominym]

So if some random person was touching your wife, regardless of the situation, you'd just sit there?

Yeah, because I'm not an ass. Sure, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with it. But, she's not my property. She has the full ability to say no, and if that dude isn't responding to that? Then yeah, I'll step in. The problem you're not getting here, is you're acting as if your wife can't handle herself. You justify it by saying, "I'm just protective!" And yeah, you are, jealously so. What does your wife need protecting from? Is a hand on the shoulder harmful? I certainly don't think so.

It's my significant others responsibility to stay loyal to me. Not my job to keep her loyal. If she can't keep her end of the bargain? Then fuck her, find someone who will.

Oh, and as for your "man" comment? Being a man is knowing how to be mature, not flying off the handle when someone comes into contact with someone you like. What you describe yourself as is childish at best. I'll bet you had a real hard time sharing your toys as a kid, too.

 

[RoninChaos]

Yeah, because I'm not an ass. Sure, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with it. But, she's not my property. She has the full ability to say no, and if that dude isn't responding to that? Then yeah, I'll step in. The problem you're not getting here, is you're acting as if your wife can't handle herself. You justify it by saying, "I'm just protective!" And yeah, you are, jealously so. What does your wife need protecting from? Is a hand on the shoulder harmful? I certainly don't think so.

It's my significant others responsibility to stay loyal to me. Not my job to keep her loyal. If she can't keep her end of the bargain? Then fuck her, find someone who will.

Oh, and as for your "man" comment? Being a man is knowing how to be mature, not flying off the handle when someone comes into contact with someone you like. What you describe yourself as is childish at best.

Sorry if I've offended your sensibilities.

But again, you're putting something on me that isn't there. Not sure why. But whatever, man. I already explained this whole 'insecurity' and you, just like everybody else obviously didn't read it. We can continue this discussion if you stop putting scenarios on me that I didn't even mention, and if you actually read what I said.

oh, and I can also pull an assumption out of my ass based on the things you said, like you did with that "sharing toys" comment. From the tone of your posts, I bet you're a pushover, and a person like myself could fuck your wife/girlfriend in front of you and you wouldn't do anything.

Not really nice is it? Especially since I don't know you. but hey, it's the internet! Why try to understand where anybody is coming from!

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

The unsettling thing here is that some people in this thread actually think there is no range of responses to the situation. It's either violence or nothing. As if it might not be possible that someone would even know that the woman with them is their wife or girlfriend and should they touch them at all, it's on. Because walking up and saying something to clarify the situation wouldn't defuse it 99 times out of 100.

 

[Dunlop]

What's with the stigma of going to clubs when being over 30, with kids and having to "grow up"

Nothing but the assumption especially reading the OP is that you are aware of the situation of getting on a dance floor and then in a small enclosed building with a bunch of horny drunk dudes.

Putting yourself in a situation like that (fighting not going to a club) when you have a 2 year old child is beyond selfish, I know the OP can kick ass and all but an pissed off/drunk moron can stab/shoot you or your wife and you will now affect that kid's future or to a lesser extend get in a fight and seriously injure the dude and you are now in jail. Walk the fuck away, if he is bothering your wife leave or talk to the bouncer.

I've been in similar situations when I was a lot younger and my recollection was always the same as the OP (badass, hero,etc) until I would speak to someone else who removed my beer goggles and suddenly the story wasn't quite as glamorous.

This is of course a sterile analysis, the rare times I get drunk nowadays I can see how I might try to "relive my youth".

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

I've had guys touching my arm, shoulders and even hips and it didn't go beyond just dancing because I wasn't interested in anything more. But hey what the fuck do I know.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

I've had guys touching my arm, shoulders and even hips and it didn't go beyond just dancing because I wasn't interested in anything more. But hey what the fuck do I know.

You only speak when spoken to! Clearly you need someone to protect you from those guys!

 

[Ominym]

Sorry if I've offended your sensibilities.

But again, you're putting something on me that isn't there. Not sure why. But whatever, man. I already explained this whole 'insecurity' and you, just like everybody else obviously didn't read it. We can continue this discussion if you stop putting scenarios on me that I didn't even mention, and if you actually read what I said.

oh, and I can also pull an assumption out of my ass based on the things you said, like you did with that "sharing toys" comment. From the tone of your posts, I bet you're a pushover, and a person like myself could fuck your wife/girlfriend in front of you and you wouldn't do anything.

Not really nice is it? Especially since I don't know you. but hey, it's the internet! Why try to understand where anybody is coming from!

You know, I would've typed out some long, drawn out post to this. But you're clearly just not going to read it. You have no problem, clearly. It's just you being "protective", and we can't see it. Just like an alcoholic isn't an alcoholic, he just really needs his liquor to fall asleep.

But whatever, I'm glad you can live in a world where you've justified your behavior to yourself. I mean, it's just your world. We're all just living in it. Right?

 

[Bowling Pin]

I've had guys touching my arm, shoulders and even hips and it didn't go beyond just dancing because I wasn't interested in anything more. But hey what the fuck do I know.

They wanted it to go beyond dancing, their level was too low obviously.

It's dudes at a club.

 

[ChuyMasta]

I've had guys touching my arm, shoulders and even hips and it didn't go beyond just dancing because I wasn't interested in anything more. But hey what the fuck do I know.

Get a boyfriend so he can protect you because you clearly don't have what it takes to judge the situation on your own.

Doing so would make your bf not look like a doormat. He takes action! He is protective! And doom the soul who dares touch you now that you are spoken for!

 

[marathonfool]

This thread is full of guys who are "that creeper" and don't even know it.

Don't act like its an overreaction to be protective of your wife in this (or any) situation, or act like its the wife's job to handle it. Women usually want to avoid confrontation, it's the man's job to take up the slack.

Girls get drugged nightly at bars everywhere, the male of our species is predatory and desperate.

I think a lot of these white knights or soft batch "men" in this thread don't live in the real world.

What kind of fantasy world are you living? Grown up women can speak and work now.

 

[FrankCaron]

This episode of Jersey Shore was boring the first time. Why did it need a transcription?

 

[RoninChaos]

You know, I would've typed out some long, drawn out post to this. But you're clearly just not going to read it. You have no problem, clearly. It's just you being "protective", and we can't see it. Just like an alcoholic isn't an alcoholic, he just really needs his liquor to fall asleep.

But whatever, I'm glad you can live in a world where you've justified your behavior to yourself. I mean, it's just your world. We're all just living in it. Right?

No no, please. Enlighten me. I read everything you wrote. And responded. You just keep making baseless assumptions about me. If you can't have a conversation with me without doing that, then by all means, let's stop right here.

 

[betty swollocks]

lol and because I feel a certain way, I'm insecure? That's a hell of a jump there, chief. gtfo out that bullshit.

I'll leave you guys to it. Obviously you're a ladies man so it wouldn't bug you if a complete stranger started touching the woman you're married to. I get it. Stay pimpin.

Why is it the internet hard men can't construct a simple sentence for shit?

 

[Acid House]

Modern people have no attachment to any sort of class. A few decades ago approaching another man's wife would result in a lot more than an antagonistic laugh.

Look at people excusing any sort of childish behavior because "that's what happens at clubs", and then in the next breath tell the OP to grow up.

You wanna argue with me that males aren't predatory and desperate? I've seen good friends date raped, pilled, you name it. Keep excusing it and it will keep happening.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

They wanted it to go beyond dancing, their level was too low obviously.

It's dudes at a club.

And I know that. And I'm someone who goes to clubs usually with the intention to get laid. And STILL touching doesn't mean absolutely anything if I'm not interested in anything more. Sometimes, dancing is just dancing.

Funny how that works huh.

 

[EloquentM]

Moral of the story is that couples and clubs don't mix well.

 

[ruxtpin]

I'm with some of the others here. No one better touch my woman. I dont care who you are, if you touch my girl in a suggestive way then you're getting knocked the fuck out. I'm a pretty peaceful guy, but when you touch my girl - shit is gonna go down.

One time there was some chick at the local club rubbing up on my girl (my girl is hot as hell, so I'm used to having guys AND girls turn their heads). My lady wasn't interested, and neither was I, so that girl got a drop-kick straight to the baby maker.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

OP is the typical "likes to fight guy." Knuckleheads will attract knuckleheads.

 

[grumble]

Not impressed by how op handled this situation.

Going up to a guy and rudely saying talk don't touch is rude, condescending and deliberately provocative. It's no wonder this guy was offended and upset, especially when alcohol is involved. By not making it sufficiently clear that she was your wife/girl, you made it a million times worse.

By antagonizing him with your 'shoo shoo hahaha' comments and attitude you're also being provocative and trying to goad him. By going up to him with the intent of causing violence you also acted like a child.

I'd say that the op needs to learn to manage the impression he's giving off as a juvenile guy who's got a testosterone issue when he's drinking.

 

[ReBurn]

Great thread backfire. Needed more tumblr gifs in the OP, though.

 

[pigeon]

I saw her smiling and and talking back to him, so I decided just to watch because obviously he wasn't bothering her. I was watching him closely, but then he took his hand and placed it on my wife's shoulder while leaning very closely to talk to her.

Actually, she apologised to me! I'm certain she didn't mind at all

To be completely honest she didn't look like he was bothering her at all. I didn't even ask her later on what were you talking about.

Also, to be even more honest. I think she liked it (being protective). Will find out tonight

So I guess there are two questions here. Did you overreact from the point of view of a bystander? Yes, at least from this bystander, you completely did.

Did you overreact from the point of view of your wife? No -- from the information provided, you did exactly what she wanted you to do. And you know exactly why your friend thinks you behaved badly but you feel like you did the right thing, too.

 

[CornBurrito]

You wanna argue with me that males aren't predatory and desperate? I've seen good friends date raped, pilled, you name it. Keep excusing it and it will keep happening.

Who the fuck is excusing date rape?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Lol, this is possibly the worst pile of BS I've ever read on GAF. Sounds like it could almost have happened where it not for the Hollywood ending of OP being being carried victoriously back into the club, like Caesar triumphant, to be presented with a bottle of the managers finest champagne before being hoisted bodily onto a podium by the other revellers for a celebratory dance with his wife.

I bet a bouncer breaks up a posturing, handbags-at-dawn confrontation between drunken pissants like the OP and his nemesis about 20 times a fucking night.

Good story OP, but your victory parade was a bridge too far. 6/10, would maybe read again.

The funniest part was that I thought you were making an exaggerated joke, but then I went back and read it and that's exactly what he wrote.

 

[rvy]

Why do you give a shit what we think? Sounds like BS to me anyway. Who smiles at the guy approaching his wife?

 

[Ominym]

No no, please. Enlighten me. I read everything you wrote. And responded. You just keep making baseless assumptions about me. If you can't have a conversation with me without doing that, then by all means, let's stop right here.

Alright then, I will do as I did earlier in this thread and pick out posts that have lead me to form this "baseless assumption" about you. Here are some things you've said in this thread:

If another man touched my wife I'd break his hand. and I don't think that's overreacting.

You should probably stay away from my wife then. lol In a club situation like that, I would definitely let a mother fucker know what's up. If somebody bumped into her or something at the store, i wouldn't go all "hulk smash" and shit. That's stupid.

I think there's a certain way you should act when dealing with people..

i used to be a bouncer at a strip club. I'm not a fan of fighting. Maybe you missed the part where I said I don't go to clubs. I'll give you a sec to read it again since you were probably really quick on the quote button to tell me how you feel and to use the term "bro" as an insult.

I bet you're the coolest kid on the internet.

lol and because I feel a certain way, I'm insecure? That's a hell of a jump there, chief. gtfo out that bullshit.

I'll leave you guys to it. Obviously you're a ladies man so it wouldn't bug you if a complete stranger started touching the woman you're married to. I get it. Stay pimpin.

To be clear, I'm not down with random strangers touching my family. I'm a protective person. That's the end of it. The rest of gaf can try to psychoanalyze me all the want, say stupid shit like "apparently Ronin treats his wife like a possession!" which is a real easy way to pigeon hole me, avoid anything I said, I guess as an attempt to feel superior. I guess it's easier and play armchair therapist rather than understanding why a person would feel the way they do. That's fine. I don't really give a fuck what random people on the internet that I'll never met think of me.

So here we go. Basically, me thinking that you're a dick, is completely based in reality. And here's why: You think it is completely rational to break someones hand for touching your wife. When people say, "Hey, that's a bit far." You respond by being condescending (detailed in the posts above) Awfully defensive for "not caring what random people on the internet think, eh? But then again, you care and awful lot about what some random strangers think of your wife. Enough to alter (and here's an assumption) your nightlife.

You then continue you with such greats as:

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only man here.

I do know this though, that mother fucker better not dance back.

So tell me again. Why shouldn't I think you're a dick? You think anyone who doesn't jealously guard their woman (they can't think for themselves, it's okay.) is a "total pushover" and "would let you have sex with their significant other." Or, "isn't a man." Clearly, I'm making baseless assumptions.

 

[CornBurrito]

Why do you give a shit what we think? Sounds like BS to me anyway. Who smiles at the guy approaching his wife?

Someone looking for a fight.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

This thread is full of guys who are "that creeper" and don't even know it.

Don't act like its an overreaction to be protective of your wife in this (or any) situation, or act like its the wife's job to handle it. Women usually want to avoid confrontation, it's the man's job to take up the slack.

Girls get drugged nightly at bars everywhere, the male of our species is predatory and desperate.

I think a lot of these white knights or soft batch "men" in this thread don't live in the real world.

Or maybe I'm a bouncer in the real world and dickheads throwing punches over the silliest shit ruins an otherwise chill night EVERY. DAMN. TIME. And then they act surprised when they get thrown out. EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

A guy trying to dance with a woman is not uncommon. A guy trying to dance with a woman who is in a circle of friends (guy or girl)? Still not uncommon. I've had guys try to step in front of girls who wanted to dance with me (One girl went so far as to comment that her possessive guy friend was "probably gay"), just because they assumed that's what the girl wanted.

A guy talking to an attractive woman with minimal body contact is not a crime. If there is inappropriate touching or groping, she can tell the guy to fuck off, slap him, or tell a bouncer or her bf/husband. In that scenario, the guy is totally justified in getting his ass kicked.

Here you have a scenario where there is just a guy doing what he's probably done 1000 times at bars and clubs (you know, chatting with girls and dancing), and the OP acted like a confrontational prick by eyeballing him and grabbing him instead of just calmly saying "she's my wife."

When one of my female friends get hit on, I let the guy say his bit. If she likes him, she'll keep on talking and that's their business. If she thinks he's a creeper, she'll move away or pretend that she's with me. It's that easy. Guys aren't completely retarded. If it's my gf, I still let the guy say his bit, and I let her turn him down. She's a grown woman, she speaks English, she can easily make it clear that she's uninterested in someone without me having to beat him half to death.

 

[FunnyBunny]

I'm surprised by the number of people who talk about their partners as if they're theirs; as in how dare someone else interact with MY possession?

If I did that, my wife would be the one throwing punches.

 

[Nyx]

This thread is full of guys who are "that creeper" and don't even know it.

Don't act like its an overreaction to be protective of your wife in this (or any) situation, or act like its the wife's job to handle it. Women usually want to avoid confrontation, it's the man's job to take up the slack.

Girls get drugged nightly at bars everywhere, the male of our species is predatory and desperate.

I think a lot of these white knights or soft batch "men" in this thread don't live in the real world.

To be honest I'm thinking the same about the men who go apeshit when some stranger touches his wife in a club-environment.

Oh and also about the people who think going clubbing when married and/or having kids is ''childish'.

 

[Willectro]

It's disturbing when you find out people like the OP have kids.

 

[Schattenjäger]

What club was this and are you Asian ?

 

[Sanky Panky]

I've never seen GAF so naive...

I would have pulled my wife away instead of the guy, and maybe had made it more clear she was with me when dancing at first, but the douchebag in this situation is the dumbass desperate guy.

Clearly the guy acknowledged that she was with the OP by backing away. Irregardless of any action from the wife/gf, the fact that he still went ahead and pushed on to talk to her (even without the touching) is a clear disrespect to the OP. He actively pursued her even after getting a "warning" from the OP. That is a dick move, and I can't see why some people here are defending it.

What the hell do you guys think the guy wanted? was we talking about the weather? was he looking for casual conversation and make new friends?

I have no sympathy for backstabbing losers like that.

 

[FunnyBunny]

In this thread, I learned committing assault for an act of disrespect is acceptable.

Thanks GAF!