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Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach

Zzoram said:
If it really has improved graphics, I might have to pre-order instead of waiting for the first price drop.
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And they'll only continue to tighten them up on level 3. Which makes the game worth buying right there.
 
Fucking awesome vidoc. I'm really liking the interactions between squad members. That, and the focus on urban combat ought to give a completely fresh atmosphere from the previous Halos.
 
Kibbles said:
How do you get them in normal speed without making it choppy? Damn photoshop. Oh well, it's more badass in slow-mo. :lol[/QUOTE]
I use JASC Animation Shop. You can set the milliseconds to display each frame. This video was 30fps which equals roughly 3ms per frame. A 24fps video would be roughly 4ms.
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Zzoram said:
If it really has improved graphics, I might have to pre-order instead of waiting for the first price drop.
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Come on, now. That shouldn't be your deciding factor.

Also, I can't wait for the M6C-BR debates that are bound to happen.

I'll likely be siding with the M6C.
 
Kibbles said:
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How do you get them in normal speed without making it choppy? Damn photoshop. Oh well, it's more badass in slow-mo. :lol
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Hah, not sure on the speed but the slow speed does make it more epic. :lol
 
Doodis said:
So, we know Fillion is Buck. After listening to the other guys, it seems Dutch is Alec Baldwin and Mickey is Alan Tudyk. But who is Romeo? I can't remember if any other Firefly actors were supposed to be involved in this.
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lothars said:
Well I don't know but Imdb.com lists both Alec Baldwin and Alan Tudyk
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Wat?
 
GhaleonEB said:
I got 10 minutes into the campaign and sent it back. Utter shit.
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Holy shit. Are you kidding me? The tanker sequence and then the Intro didn't grab you at all? Utter shit? :lol
 
Dax01 said:
Come on, now. That shouldn't be your deciding factor.

Also, I can't wait for the M6C-BR debates that are bound to happen.

I'll likely be siding with the M6C.
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You're right, how quickly my friends get it will be my deciding factor. If they all get it and start playing, I'll have to jump in.
 
Talon- said:
Holy shit. Are you kidding me? The tanker sequence and then the Intro didn't grab you at all? Utter shit? :lol
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I can understand him. I liked these sequences, but they were a bit generic tbh. I can see alot of people get turned off by the game after playing those normal cod4 parts. The first part of the Chernobyl mission is the best part of the game IMO, has a great HL2-esque feel, it's so different to the rest of the game.
 
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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I would say just start with Halo 3 and if you can find the legendary for cheap than it will also have a disc with a cutscenes for halo 1 and 2 but it's all good either way.

You would be fine with starting with Halo 3 at least in my opinion.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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Halo 1 and Halo 2 both work on the Xbox 360 (with a harddrive) as they are backwards compatible. I believe both are also available as 1200 MSPoint Xbox Originals, and both are still sold at EBGames new or used.

Order in story:

Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3:ODST, Halo 3

Halo 3:ODST takes place somewhere in the middle of Halo 2.

You can definitely play ODST first if you want, but I'd play Halo 1 and Halo 2 to see the evolution of the genre. Halo 1 was the first FPS on console to really work, and lead the the modern control scheme and widespread use of regenerating health. Halo 2 took the regenerating health further by making both your shields and health regenerate, while Halo 1 only had regenerating shields and required medkits for health. Halo 3 continues to use the Halo 2 system for health. Halo 3 ODST goes back to medkits, because you play as an ODST and not a Spartan and therefore do not have shields.
 
Router said:
Very nice. Nathan is the man. Loving the polish on the game but still very underwhelmed by the overall graphics. I'm by no means a graphics whore though so it's not a deal breaker for me. Gameplay is looking great too.


I just pray to god that REACH is using a totally new engine. It's really time to move on.

In the end though, I'll be playing as ODST's and that's all I have wanted for a long time now! Bring it on.
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That is my only worry about Reach at this point is that it will be another expansion in a sense. Considering Bungie's history with dev time I'm starting to wonder if Reach will even be a full blown game considering it will be launching 3 years after Halo 3 with a game launched in the middle. Something just doesn't add up.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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I'd say it's worth starting from the beginning, but I also found the general game balance and combat hit the sweet spot in the first game and hasn't really been able to recapture it in the sequels.

Plus Halo 3 wove a really confusing and forgettable narrative yarn that would come across as complete nonsense without knowledge of events and situations taken from Halo 1/2. So if you are doing a campaign run, it's worth starting from the beginning.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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You giving Halo another chance is like me with Persona (well, in RPGs in general).; glad to see you're interested. :)

As for a recommendation, ODST wouldn't be a bad place to start but it will be a little different than the main games. If you don't want to wait maybe try Halo 1 again (it's cheap; $10 on Amazon and $15 as a downloadable Xbox Original) or rent Halo 3 and try the campaign.
 
Wizman23 said:
That is my only worry about Reach at this point is that it will be another expansion in a sense. Considering Bungie's history with dev time I'm starting to wonder if Reach will even be a full blown game considering it will be launching 3 years after Halo 3 with a game launched in the middle. Something just doesn't add up.
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Maybe they started work on Reach and ODST at the same time. ODST using the same engine and multiplayer framework would dramatically reduce the time to develop it, allowing them to move developers to work on Reach.
 
Talon- said:
Holy shit. Are you kidding me? The tanker sequence and then the Intro didn't grab you at all? Utter shit? :lol
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I can't get into the CoD series, either. Not sure why, but I think it's because I'm a big fan of story and sci-fi, so the regular old military shooters just don't hold any appeal for me.

I tried to finish CoD 4. I really did. And I know the campaign isn't even that long. But I couldn't do it. :(
 
Doodis said:
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I can't get into the CoD series, either. Not sure why, but I think it's because I'm a big fan of story and sci-fi, so the regular old military shooters just don't hold any appeal for me.

I tried to finish CoD 4. I really did. And I know the campaign isn't even that long. But I couldn't do it. :(
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I managed to drag myself through the CoD4 campaign due to some achievement whoring tendencies. I didn't enjoy it though, and I couldn't finish WaW on PC (got from $25 Steam sale) because there were no achievements to pull me along :lol
 
Zzoram said:
Maybe they started work on Reach and ODST at the same time. ODST using the same engine and multiplayer framework would dramatically reduce the time to develop it, allowing them to move developers to work on Reach.
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If I remember correctly, only a small team at Bungie worked on ODST, whilst the rest of the studio worked on Reach & "To Be Announced". So the bulk of their resources have most likely been focused on Reach. I'd be willing to bet development on Reach started before Halo 3 was finished up. I'd have to go digging on HBO for interview quotes to say for sure.

Love the ViDoc. Looking forward to watching it on my big screen tonight. :D Bungie looks to have squeezed a bit more out of the Halo 3 engine, and as Ghaleon said, really leveraging the lighting engine this time around.

And I know we've all seen them before now, but I'm still thrilled that the human faces actually look decent in ODST!
 
This new video doc got me (re) interested in the game. Someone at Bungie really needs a raise for this because a potential hybrid of Firefly and Halo really got my nerd juices flowing.
 
DancingJesus said:
This scene looks really beautiful.
Hype!!!!
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Most of the ViDoc looks really beautiful. :D

Urk: Any chance you can give us some detail on if a soundtrack will be released for the game, and if so when?
 
Wizman23 said:
That is my only worry about Reach at this point is that it will be another expansion in a sense. Considering Bungie's history with dev time I'm starting to wonder if Reach will even be a full blown game considering it will be launching 3 years after Halo 3 with a game launched in the middle. Something just doesn't add up.
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id bet a million dollars that its a complete game on a new engine
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game...
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Honestly, I'd pick up Halo 3 and play through the campaign with some friends. I can't think of a better entrypoint into the series than that.
 
Wizman23 said:
That is my only worry about Reach at this point is that it will be another expansion in a sense. Considering Bungie's history with dev time I'm starting to wonder if Reach will even be a full blown game considering it will be launching 3 years after Halo 3 with a game launched in the middle. Something just doesn't add up.
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Now that Bungie is independent they develop their titles concurrently not consecutively.

ODST is already complete. They have already been working on Reach as well as a new IP.
 
Wizman23 said:
That is my only worry about Reach at this point is that it will be another expansion in a sense. Considering Bungie's history with dev time I'm starting to wonder if Reach will even be a full blown game considering it will be launching 3 years after Halo 3 with a game launched in the middle. Something just doesn't add up.
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As GM Bullfrog said, Bungie has shifted to multi-team, multi-project structure since the completion of Halo 3. This is from From July 24 last year (over a year ago, yikes time flies):
At the moment we do have three distinct projects underway within Bungie - some familiar, some not. Some on a closer horizon, some quite far off.​
By the time Reach ships in fall 2010, it will have had a full three year development cycle. ODST had just over one year. I expect the scale of the projects and the tech under the hood to reflect the extra time.
 
GhaleonEB said:
By the time Reach ships in fall 2010, it will have had a full three year development cycle. ODST had just over one year. I expect the scale of the projects and the tech under the hood to reflect the extra time.
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Agreed.
 
Spasm said:
I use JASC Animation Shop. You can set the milliseconds to display each frame. This video was 30fps which equals roughly 3ms per frame. A 24fps video would be roughly 4ms.
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Downloaded it, but I can't seem to import the video in.

[edit] Nevermind, guess it has to be .avi.

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Kibbles said:
Downloaded it, but I can't seem to import the video in.
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I think it needs to be AVI to import... I use vdubmod to export the frames I need, then import them into Animation shop.

You might wanna just keep making GIFs the way you have been, then open up the nearly finished GIF in Animation Shop to adjust the frame rate.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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Vehicle combat is a major part of Halo's gameplay. If you don't like that, you won't like the other games (not sure if ODST will have a lot of vehicle combat, though).

I'm Halo fan, so I'm going to recommend that you try the series from the begging. The level you describe, "Halo," is highly regarded among a lot of fans.
 
Aeana said:
Okay, so... say I've never played Halo beyond the first level of the first game (where you have to ride around the planet saving mans), and was a little put off by that, if only because vehicle stuff tends to bore me. But, I want to give the series another shot, as what I've seen of later games looks really interesting.

Keeping in mind that I only have a 360, not a regular Xbox (if BC isn't perfect or something): should I try to track down Halo 1 and play from there, or would it be okay to start with one of the later games? I hear ODST doesn't have Master Chief in it, and it's some sort of prequel. but it does have "3" in the title. Could I start there? Or even with Halo 3? Or is it super important that I go through them in order? If story is really important, I could probably find some sort of recap... but I'd like to know what people who are into the series have to say.
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start from the first Title. then when you finish 3. read the books & comics (wiki can give you a general story of the books).
 
Dax01 said:
Vehicle combat is a major part of Halo's gameplay. If you don't like that, you won't like the other games (not sure if ODST will have a lot of vehicle combat, though).

I'm Halo fan, so I'm going to recommend that you try the series from the begging. The level you describe, "Halo," is highly regarded among a lot of fans.
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But vehicle control is not that great in the the first Halo, especially for a newbie and especially when compared to Halo 3. If you are really trying to get into the Halo series, and have tried the Combat Evolved already, I would HIGHLY recommend finding 2-3 friends and going through the Halo 3 campaign cooperatively (online of course). That is about as good an introduction as one could expect under these circumstances.
 
soldat7 said:
But vehicle control is not that great in the the first Halo, especially for a newbie and especially when compared to Halo 3. If you are really trying to get into the Halo series, and have tried the Combat Evolved already, I would HIGHLY recommend finding 2-3 friends and going through the Halo 3 campaign cooperatively (online of course). That is about as good an introduction as one could expect under these circumstances.
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Pretty much this. If you care about the story, play through the other games first. But if you are looking from a purely gameplay standpoint, fire up Halo 3 co-op.

Many elements of Halo 1 and 2 have not aged well, and Halo 3 just flat-out recreates many of the best sequences. I loved the Halo 1 and 2 campaigns (yes, 2), and I find it very hard to go back to them now.
 
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