Muffdraul
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I used to dimiss it as that, but sometimes it's coming from otherwise supportive Halo fans. Definitely weird to me.
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I used to dimiss it as that, but sometimes it's coming from otherwise supportive Halo fans. Definitely weird to me.
Phonomezer
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higherARC05
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Back on the subject about if 343 Industries redone anything on the engine.
"But we've also torn down the engine and rebuilt a lot of it, and certainly you've seen that in the image quality and the graphic rendering techniques we're using." - Frank O'Connor
"Sometimes you're going to have to completely throw out whole chunks of the engine. But yeah, there are always pieces you can keep. Some of that is just calculations and numbers that make his jump height feel right for example. That stuff you have to retain." - Frank O'Connor
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
"But we've also torn down the engine and rebuilt a lot of it, and certainly you've seen that in the image quality and the graphic rendering techniques we're using." - Frank O'Connor
"Sometimes you're going to have to completely throw out whole chunks of the engine. But yeah, there are always pieces you can keep. Some of that is just calculations and numbers that make his jump height feel right for example. That stuff you have to retain." - Frank O'Connor
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
EatinOlives
Member
And you wonder why people think you're defensive.
Hint: It's an opinion. People have those. It's ridiculous to say anyone who doesn't have your opinion has an ax to grind.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Looks next gen compared to Halo3, quite insane what they're squeezing out of the old box.
Muffdraul
Member
Excuse me... when did I wonder why people think I'm defensive? Or claim not to be?
Yes, I'm defensive. I look at a game with my own two eyes and it looks fucking beautiful, and others say it looks like shit. I hate that!
higherARC05
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HALO 3 is beautiful. Playing tonight again just because of it. Which level you recommend I should dive into?
HALO 4 is undeniably a swan song for this generation. Can not wait to play!!!!!
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Well, to be honest, the snow is a letdown. It looks like a hard, solid flat surface that has no interaction. Too bad it didn't at least appear to have some more depth, even if they faked it.
In comparison, Halo 3 had some decent looking snow:
I mean, cuts are necessary so I understand, still its too bad the snow doesn't look a little better.
In comparison, Halo 3 had some decent looking snow:
I mean, cuts are necessary so I understand, still its too bad the snow doesn't look a little better.
higherARC05
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You can't be sure till we see more because in HALO 3 the snow didn't add those effects on all snowy surfaces. It was used in deep snow surfaces. With that one shot of HALO 4 you can't see if they add those effects till you run over deep snow. Will be fun exploring this game for sure.
Timan
Developer
Still think Halo1 has the best ice, specially when you drive the warthog over it, used to just spin in circles.
Muffdraul
Member
Cheers! IMO the most breathtaking stuff is definitely in The Ark and Covenant. I also think Cortana is really overlooked in terms of sheer artful graphic design. So ugly yet so beautiful. (The level mind, not the naked blue chick.)
It's an anus.
higherARC05
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So, what happened to this?
There is no difference what they first showed to now. It is exactly what they showed.
Bring on November 6th 343 Industries about to make it rain!!!!!
Here's one of the shots at Nearest Neighbor:
Here's another in Nearest Neighbor
Might be the first accurate shot of this game I've seen.
Muffdraul
Member
Oh. I always thought it was half of a white 7th Column logo on a blue background.
higherARC05
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Still looks so amazing
Also tonight is new HALOWaypoint Bulletin and new video and new Sparkcast.
Today is a good day.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Hmm, wonder if it's one game type or what.
Vire
Member
For Gaming Side:
They released a Promethean Weapons trailer today. Along with a extra long Bulletin detailing the weapons.
Bulletin
Promethean Weapons Trailer
Promethean Weapon Sounds Trailer
Direct Download High Res
They released a Promethean Weapons trailer today. Along with a extra long Bulletin detailing the weapons.
Bulletin
Promethean Weapons Trailer
Promethean Weapon Sounds Trailer
Direct Download High Res
higherARC05
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soulassssns
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Trickster
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flamingotripod
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I do not understand how anyone can think the game looks bad, I mean even if you dont like halo the art direction is amazing
REMEMBER CITADEL
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There are people who don't want it to look good, no surprises there.
It's actually transparent.
InvincibleAgent
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I prefer bilinear sampling when downsizing. Bicubic looks a bit too blurry IMO.
But yeah that's a good point about snow... I'm sure there will be some sort of effects. Might only be when someone take a step. Perhaps those characters were standing still.
But yeah that's a good point about snow... I'm sure there will be some sort of effects. Might only be when someone take a step. Perhaps those characters were standing still.
Yes, there is.
how can we call this? Bullvids? I dont't see jaggies everywhere. There is a filter on adobe premiere so we can add jaggies?
=D
base shagohod
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What's up with the dude like going crazy at 0:27 of that video?
Clay Davis
Member
perhaps you could explain your position a little more, so it doesn't look like the blatant trolling it is.
Its the animation of one of abilities.. regeneration field I think.
Yeah Crysis 2 uses DoF when you're viewing or modifying your weapon. I guess they can use it when reloading, but that never made sense to me.
Also, while I agree that there are people who will drool over one game and go out of their way to troll another, I don't think we should be making any claims of any game (or system) being the most technically impressive game. Both systems have their own strengths and weaknesses. Also every game makes trade offs, whether it's in the design of the game itself or the tech of the engine, and Halo 4 is no different.
Were you trying to use these quotes to support your assumption that the renderer has been entirely rewritten from scratch?
I'm having a hard time figuring out if you're trolling or just blind. Those screens look horrible and the game looks nothing like that.
Well considering Halo 3 looked like shit on the day of release, it is not surprising.
You make it sound like that statement is beyond comprehension.
grimshawish
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Halo 3 didn't look like shit, it just looked basic; in some ways that works but they could have used the power of the 360 to bring the basic shape visuals to life. Which Halo 4 looks to be doing; but we'll see - am sure there will be things one game does better and the other game does worse and vice versa. It is a same gen sequel after all from a different studio.
GodfatherX
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looks great, i dont see any downgrade from the first released shots
grimshawish
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Ignore! Thought I was in the other thread
Ignore! Thought I was in the other thread
It's 720p with FXAA, so it looks much cleaner than that.
Well, it looked graphically average.
BigTnaples
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It is.
In texture quality and jaggies? That's a discussion that can be had. In lighting, scope of the level geometry? Amount of things going on? It was above average.
I doubt I was the only person underwhelmed by the graphics in Halo 3. Obviously 'shit' is somewhat an exaggeration, but it was certainly average looking at best.
You'd Imagine I am talking purely aesthetics right?
shinobi602
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The art direction, lighting, physics and AI of H3 were sublime at the time.
However, the resolution, jaggies and character models were pretty disappointing, I agree.
However, the resolution, jaggies and character models were pretty disappointing, I agree.
Somewhat subjective, but I thought there were areas where it looked kind of generic and bland. Some areas were better than others though.