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[tea_and_crumpets]

For anyone doing the campagin video on Legendary I recommend this guy (Nak3dHalo)'s videos. Easy to follow, hes not annoying and he gets you through the levels with speed.

Link here to his video for the 4th level (which was taking me ages) - obviously he has vid's for all the levels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opa6rvllEhQ&feature=context-shows&list=SL

 

[op_ivy]

There are some really bad instances where I round the corner and the group of Covenant/Prometheans just sit there for a brief second before moving. It's almost like I came around the corner and yelled "surprise"!

It's kind of a distraction from the narrative as you can plainly tell when they're being told to act and spawn in. Dunno why this is an issue compared to previous games (Halo CE had them too, but you usually found those only when you strayed off the beaten path or sped through the level--the Flood spawns and final zone with the Banshees on "Two Betrayals" are two I can think of.)

yeah, i've actually seen groups of enemies spawn in during the campaign. i've also seen FAR more AI wonkiness in 4 than in any other halo game - things like AI literally just standing there until i engage them, and AI getting stuck and running into a wall forever.

the combat loop seems fine when its working and they dont seem any dumber or simpler then past games, but there does seem to be more "bugs" with AI behavior, thats for sure.

Anyone know what the factor is for Pioneer XP increase?

thought i read here somewhere that its an additional 500xp a game...

 

[Blue Ninja]

Man, listening to ODST's soundtrack again. It's amazing.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

yeah, i've actually seen groups of enemies spawn in during the campaign. i've also seen FAR more AI wonkiness in 4 than in any other halo game - things like AI literally just standing there until i engage them, and AI getting stuck and running into a wall forever.

the combat loop seems fine when its working and they dont seem any dumber or simpler then past games, but there does seem to be more "bugs" with AI behavior, thats for sure.



thought i read here somewhere that its an additional 500xp a game...

Yeah 4 is definitely the most janky. I had to restart a whole mission twice before I could get past a player triggered spot because it just wasn't doing anything.

I do think the AI is worse on the covenant. I am going through the game again solo on Legendary and they are no problem. Its not like in the previous games they were impossible but they always provided a good challenge especially if there are 3 of them. They stay rooted in place way more and I can't think of getting flanked one time by them.

 

[Louis Wu]

Have you been playing for long? I had a K/D ratio of more than 3.0 before matchmaking kicked in and my K/D ratio normalized to about 1.7. Higher than previous games, but still relatively average.

lol - yeah, no.

The stat I remember from Halo Reach (coming from someone with access to the backend numbers) is that something like 85% of all players had K/D ratios below 1.0.

If your K/D is 1.7, you're nowhere NEAR average.

 

[metareferential]

Yeah 4 is definitely the most janky. I had to restart a whole mission twice before I could get past a player triggered spot because it just wasn't doing anything.

I do think the AI is worse on the covenant. I am going through the game again solo on Legendary and they are no problem. Its not like in the previous games they were impossible but they always provided a good challenge especially if there are 3 of them. They stay rooted in place way more and I can't think of getting flanked one time by them.

I guess that has more to do with level desing in the campaign rather than the AI itself.

Elites in Spartan Ops are way more mobile and aggressive, since they have the space to do that.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I guess that has more to do with level desing in the campaign rather than the AI itself.

Elites in Spartan Ops are way more mobile and aggressive, since they have the space to do that.

Thats a good point. They are relatively confined through most of the campaign.

 

[GhaleonEB]

lol - yeah, no.

The stat I remember from Halo Reach (coming from someone with access to the backend numbers) is that something like 85% of all players had K/D ratios below 1.0.

If your K/D is 1.7, you're nowhere NEAR average.

This is one of those few times where anecdotal GAF experience seems to line up with the big picture.

 

[Blue Ninja]

Damn, tense game of Regicide. Didn't do so well at first, but managed to climb back to second place at 280 points. The king had 290 with a +35 bonus and was fighting some other dude. Right as I smack him in the back to win, he gets the winning headshot.

 

[op_ivy]

Yeah 4 is definitely the most janky. I had to restart a whole mission twice before I could get past a player triggered spot because it just wasn't doing anything.

I do think the AI is worse on the covenant. I am going through the game again solo on Legendary and they are no problem. Its not like in the previous games they were impossible but they always provided a good challenge especially if there are 3 of them. They stay rooted in place way more and I can't think of getting flanked one time by them.

also, elites in halo 4, even on legendary, don't have the cray over powered shields they had in reach. iirc, even in legendary halo 4, one over charged plasma shot will drop any elites shields.

lol - yeah, no.

The stat I remember from Halo Reach (coming from someone with access to the backend numbers) is that something like 85% of all players had K/D ratios below 1.0.

If your K/D is 1.7, you're nowhere NEAR average.

wow, i've never heard that before. i am a halo GOD.

 

[Grisby]

Getting close to unlocking a specialization. Is there any different factors for them or is it just the looks?

 

[The Lamonster]

Man, I haven't felt this way about Halo multiplayer since Halo 2.

-engine feelsgoodman
-the sword is finally balanced
-the magnum is exactly where it should be
-fucking nailed the assault rifle too
-sprinting for everyone is long overdue
-armor abilities are not OP
-vehicles are vulnerable
-perks system allows for more customization than ever
-best original maps since Halo 2
-actual incentive to level up and get commendations
-no worthless vehicles - even the mongoose has high speed now
-join in progress is a good thing

That said,

-take the music out of multiplayer
-don't prevent movement while viewing score
-add X to HUD for dead teammates
-I love ya Stetizer, but chill out.
-where is proximity voice? I want to shit talk the enemy in-game.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Man, I haven't felt this way about Halo multiplayer since Halo 2.

-engine feelsgoodman
-the sword is finally balanced
-the magnum is exactly where it should be
-fucking nailed the assault rifle too
-sprinting for everyone is long overdue
-armor abilities are not OP
-vehicles are vulnerable
-perks system allows for more customization than ever
-best original maps since Halo 2
-actual incentive to level up and get commendations
-no worthless vehicles - even the mongoose has high speed now
-join in progress is a good thing

That said,

-take the music out of multiplayer
-don't prevent movement while viewing score
-add X to HUD for dead teammates
-I love ya Stetizer, but chill out.
-where is proximity voice? I want to shit talk the enemy in-game.

I like the music in that it's restrained and adds a little bit to the end of the game. But yeah, Steitzer and the center text could be dropped to the left and reduced in frequency and I'd be much happier.

Join in progress is a good thing I think too, but the implementation still needs work.

 

[The Lamonster]

I like the music in that it's restrained and adds a little bit to the end of the game. But yeah, Steitzer and the center text could be dropped to the left and reduced in frequency and I'd be much happier.

Join in progress is a good thing I think too, but the implementation still needs work.

I agree about the music, it's not overbearing and mostly subtle, but sometimes I want to listen to my own music while I play. At least give us separate music and sfx sliders.

 

[JB1981]

Went back and played some Halo 3 and Reach MP. Man, Halo 4 is so much faster. Didn't realize how much the game has changed.

 

[Risette]

Why is the netcode in this game so bad? Pretty much every game I've tried to play today has either been rollback hell, or starts off fine and then degenerates into rollback hell.

>:|

 

[op_ivy]

Why is the netcode in this game so bad? Pretty much every game I've tried to play today has either been rollback hell, or starts off fine and then degenerates into rollback hell.

>:|

most of my laggy matches look completely normal, but as soon as i engage someone, none of my bullets ever register as hits. super frustrating.

 

[AlmostMilk]

Man, I haven't felt this way about Halo multiplayer since Halo 2.

-engine feelsgoodman
-the sword is finally balanced
-the magnum is exactly where it should be
-fucking nailed the assault rifle too
-sprinting for everyone is long overdue
-armor abilities are not OP
-vehicles are vulnerable
-perks system allows for more customization than ever
-best original maps since Halo 2
-actual incentive to level up and get commendations
-no worthless vehicles - even the mongoose has high speed now
-join in progress is a good thing

That said,

-take the music out of multiplayer
-don't prevent movement while viewing score
-add X to HUD for dead teammates
-I love ya Stetizer, but chill out.
-where is proximity voice? I want to shit talk the enemy in-game.

Disagree with these. Camo is OP, especially at range. They need to make it so after you shoot, it takes longer to go back to full camo than instantly, or just get rid of it all together. Join in progress is not a good thing in Halo. When people leave a game, its multiple and its because they are losing badly. Every time I join a game in progress, my team is getting destroyed. Then the other team leaves after the game so you can't put them in their place. To add to the "that said section," make it so if you have toggle crouch enabled, you get forced out of it when shot. Also make it so you get forced out of zoom when shot. If not for all weapons, just do it for sniper weapons.

 

[op_ivy]

Disagree with these. Camo is OP, especially at range. They need to make it so after you shoot, it takes longer to go back to full camo than instantly, or just get rid of it all together. Join in progress is not a good thing in Halo. When people leave a game, its multiple and its because they are losing badly. Every time I join a game in progress, my team is getting destroyed. Then the other team leaves after the game so you can't put them in their place. To add to the "that said section," make it so if you have toggle crouch enabled, you get forced out of it when shot. Also make it so you get forced out of zoom when shot. If not for all weapons, just do it for sniper weapons.

i agree about camo. probably my biggest beef with the game. i love how they nerfed it from reach, but the fact that you are invisible and there is no indication of a camo user on radar when they hold still in some ways makes it even more powerful then reach's version. camo snipers/campers are the worst thing in halo 4.

 

[lucius]

Just got to playing the campaign last couple days(Heroic), I think it's great better than Reach, but the music when the menu loads up is terrible. I don't even think it fits Halo at all.

 

[Louis Wu]

wow, i've never heard that before. i am a halo GOD.

lol - the other thing to remember is that 15% of a few million people is still a SHITLOAD of people.

You might be in the top few percent - but there are plenty of folks you'll meet that will wipe the floor with you.

 

[Plywood]

Why is the netcode in this game so bad? Pretty much every game I've tried to play today has either been rollback hell, or starts off fine and then degenerates into rollback hell.

>:|

no bro

could never happen

you're making things up

 

[ironcreed]

Don't even get mad when I get my ass kicked in this game. It seems to balance itself out so well in multiplayer.

 

[HiredN00bs]

Anyone know what the factor is for Pioneer XP increase?

20%

 

[enzo_gt]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

 

[Homeboyd]

:lol

Got nothing but love for you steely.

(m)

 

[ironcreed]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

Just at 20, lol.

 

[Blue Ninja]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

32.

 

[The Lamonster]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

38. What do you mean about Spops? I realize Pioneer allows faster XP gain but what does that have to do with Spops?

Here's my dude:

 

[Psychoward]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

43, 10k xp away from 44.

 

[Diablohead]

SR 47 but not played for 2 days now, will hop back in tonight.

 

[enzo_gt]

38. What do you mean about Spops? I realize Pioneer allows faster XP gain but what does that have to do with Spops?

1. Do Pioneer Specialization
2. Add Pioneer's extra XP tactical package to a loadout.
3. Exclusively use that loadout in SpOps games.
4. Bonus XP from SpOps.

Unless it doesn't work in SpOps for some reason.

 

[Digital-Hero]

So tired of grenade damage radius being so small. A grenade can blow up 4 feet away and does nothing.

 

[The Lamonster]

1. Do Pioneer Specialization
2. Add Pioneer's extra XP tactical package to a loadout.
3. Exclusively use that loadout in SpOps games.
4. Bonus XP from SpOps.

Unless it doesn't work in SpOps for some reason.

But what makes Spops better than matchmaking for that?

 

[Risette]

no bro

could never happen

you're making things up

but it keeps happening

 

[DesertFox]

1. Do Pioneer Specialization
2. Add Pioneer's extra XP tactical package to a loadout.
3. Exclusively use that loadout in SpOps games.
4. Bonus XP from SpOps.

Unless it doesn't work in SpOps for some reason.

Do you know if 2x DewXP works with Pioneer?

So tired of grenade damage radius being so small. A grenade can blow up 4 feet away and does nothing.

For the people who suffered through Reach - this is a wonderful thing.

 

[Blue Ninja]

Checkpoints in campaign really suck. I just went through an entire section on 'Forerunner', got killed when an Elite hijacked me, and the game sent me back almost five minutes.

 

[Jinjo]

Disagree with these. Camo is OP, especially at range. They need to make it so after you shoot, it takes longer to go back to full camo than instantly, or just get rid of it all together. Join in progress is not a good thing in Halo. When people leave a game, its multiple and its because they are losing badly. Every time I join a game in progress, my team is getting destroyed. Then the other team leaves after the game so you can't put them in their place. To add to the "that said section," make it so if you have toggle crouch enabled, you get forced out of it when shot. Also make it so you get forced out of zoom when shot. If not for all weapons, just do it for sniper weapons.

I don't think join in progress replaces quitters. Was just in a 2 vs 5 CTF game where 3 teammates left (we were winning so they probably lagged out). Even though the game went on for about 4 minutes we never received back-up. We lost in goddamn overtime. :/

I think the main reason that the team you joined is losing is because matchmaking decided a 7 vs 5 match or something would be a fair thing to do. Which imo is the bigger problem (game starting before teams have filled up/are even).

It's fun catching camo'ers by surprise with Promethean Vision btw, but yeah after seeing how good camo is now I switched camps (for my BTB loadout mainly).

But what makes Spops better than matchmaking for that?

SpOps matches take less time and you get nearly double the XP than matchmaking.

 

[kn0wsk1lls]

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i work during this time if you guys ever need an extra player, feel free to add me GT: kn0wsk1ll

 

[soldat7]

i agree about camo. probably my biggest beef with the game. i love how they nerfed it from reach, but the fact that you are invisible and there is no indication of a camo user on radar when they hold still in some ways makes it even more powerful then reach's version. camo snipers/campers are the worst thing in halo 4.

Camo and Promethean vision are perfect for my cautious and defensive playstyle. I'm shocked at how aggressive players generally are, racking up 15+ kills while accumulating an equal number of deaths or more. It's amazing how a smart, defensive team can create a meat grinder for the more aggressive opponent in this iteration of Halo.

 

[vatstep]

So tired of grenade damage radius being so small. A grenade can blow up 4 feet away and does nothing.

For balance reasons, I think the grenades work more as they should now — they're less like a primary weapon, which they sort of were in Reach. I had so many grenade kills in that game.

That said, I still think I'm going to try out the Explosives support upgrade to see how much of a difference it makes. After coming in thinking Dexterity was going to be a must-have, I've been playing with it off and on and it doesn't really make a huge difference. Halo isn't like CoD where, if you get caught reloading, you are instantly dead.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

So tired of grenade damage radius being so small. A grenade can blow up 4 feet away and does nothing.

it is quite small. I always toss ALL my grenades at pretty much the first guy I see as well. can almost never find grenades again. I've been having some luck with the 2 powerups that make you have an extra grenade and stronger grenades though. caught quite a few guys now when I throw 2 grenades and then wait a sec, throw the third just as they come charging round the corner thinking I'm out.

Can't figure out the BR at all or more to the point why you would take it over DMR. Just learning the boltshot as well, I discarded it before but now I realise that the animation was confusing me, if you can ignore that and use the reticule, it's freaky strong. Had a pretty good round where I got in a dual with a guy and he got my shields down first, I retreated round the corner and charged the boltshot, which he came running around the corner directly into. I know he said bad words at the screen.

I'm also quite awful at grenade play in general. I wasn't very good with grenades in reach, but I'm trying to improve by playing with 3 grenades and using em a lot in this one. I have no idea how to aim grenades, but I did jump out of my chair the one time I got a hail mary.

 

[DesertFox]

But what makes Spops better than matchmaking for that?

Matchmaking maxes at ~2400xp

Spops maxes at ~5950xp (With Dewxp, this gives 11900xp)

So Spops will take your 20% bonus much farther with less time spent.

 

[Jinjo]

For balance reasons, I think the grenades work more as they should now — they're less like a primary weapon, which they sort of were in Reach. I had so many grenade kills in that game.

That said, I still think I'm going to try out the Explosives support upgrade to see how much of a difference it makes. After coming in thinking Dexterity was going to be a must-have, I've been playing with it off and on and it doesn't really make a huge difference. Halo isn't like CoD where, if you get caught reloading, you are instantly dead.

I've been running the Explosives support upgrade for a while now, the difference in grenade power is definitely noticable. I can't give up my unlimited sprint, but combined with grenadier grenades become a lot more useful.

 

[Lima]

What SR Rank is everybody up to now?

Just hit 42. Can't wait to start on Pioneer later. I think that should be an obvious investment considering the mileage you can get out of SpOps at the same time.

54

Obvious choice for the first specialization is Rogue. Can't wait to reduce that fucking flinching.

 

[vatstep]

I've been running the Explosives support upgrade for a while now, the difference in grenade power is definitely noticable. I can't give up my unlimited sprint, but combined with grenadier grenades become a lot more useful.

Good to know. I was going to set up a loadout with Grenadier/Explosives as you said. I was initially going to go with Resupply, but I think Grenadier is a better option for people who die pretty quickly like me. :|

Mobility is awesome, too — I love running around non-stop like a chicken with my head cut off — but I only use it for Oddball and King of the Hill. If I use it in Slayer, I play way too recklessly.

 

[The Lamonster]

Matchmaking maxes at ~2400xp

Spops maxes at ~5950xp (With Dewxp, this gives 11900xp)

So Spops will take your 20% bonus much farther with less time spent.

Interesting. I usually just get about 3k XP on Spops matchmaking. How do you get more than that?

 

[Jinjo]

Good to know. I was going to set up a loadout with Grenadier/Explosives as you said. I was initially going to go with Resupply, but I think Grenadier is a better option for people who die pretty quickly like me. :|

Mobility is awesome, too — I love running around non-stop like a chicken with my head cut off — but I only use it for Oddball and King of the Hill. If I use it in Slayer, I play way too recklessly.

Yeah, resupply might be an option too. But I think most people use up their grenades before they die anyway. Atleast my last act of desperation is always throwing my remaining grenades lol. Also, I like lighting up an entire room with all my nades at once lol. I get what you're saying with sprint. I (try to lol) use my sprint mainly to get away. Combined with hard light shield my survivability goes up a lot.

54

Obvious choice for the first specialization is Rogue. Can't wait to reduce that fucking flinching.

Same here. I think I actually prefer being knocked out of scope. That way you can still aim normal and my reticle stays on my opponents goddamn face.

 

[Plywood]

but it keeps happening

I know.

Earlier today I was stuck at the voting screen for 2 minutes before the 5 of the 6 players on the enemy team bailed and the match finally started and of course was shortly over as soon as it began.

 

[Lima]

Interesting. I usually just get about 3k XP on Spops matchmaking. How do you get more than that?

Depends on which mission you are playing.

Only play chapter 1 or 5 in episode 2 now. The other ones don't give that much xp.