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Halo TV Series Renewed for Season 2

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This series is about as close as we'll get to a Halo movie (not that this series is outstanding in anyway) but I thought it was border-line watchable...was curious to know when the new season will release....without a doubt this isn't as good as the mandalorian but considering how long it has taken to get a live-action take on Halo who knows this season might right the wrongs of season 1....:messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
I'm a huge Halo fan with an absolute disdain for this show. Kill it with fire. This is not what we asked for.

With so much reference material to pull from, they chose to pull the entire story out of their ass.
 
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I love this show. It solved "what to name my character" in every game. Now everyone is John and the last name is the name of the game.
John Halo
John Persona
John Inquisition
John Division
John Mechwarrior
etc....
 
Show was surprisingly decent, same people complaining are probably the same ones who would demand more story then complain there is too much story. Same ones who wanted an open world game then complained it wasn't focused enough. Same ones who demand halo stay true to its roots only to complain its not innovative enough. Supposed halo lovers who just want to complain about everything halo as a hobby.

Honestly the show could be the best show ever made on TV and these people would still complain.
 
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I somehow managed a whole 3 episodes of this crap. I wonder who the 2 season is being produced for anyway? Halo fans certainly are not it.
 
Spyxos said:
I somehow managed a whole 3 episodes of this crap. I wonder who the 2 season is being produced for anyway? Halo fans certainly are not it.
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Gee, I don't know, someone looking for a space based show science fiction show with some action? What exactly were you expecting from a halo tv show?
Aleins? Check.
Shooting? Check
Half baked story? Check
Amazing acting? Ok you were really expecting this?
 
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THE DUCK said:
Gee, I don't know, someone looking for a space based show science fiction show with some action? What exactly were you expecting from a halo tv show?
Aleins? Check.
Shooting? Check
Half baked story? Check
Amazing acting? Ok you were really expecting this?
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I expected the makers to familiarize themselves with the series for at least 5 minutes. I don't remember much about the series. Just this one sidecharacter that for whatever reason was almost more important than Master Chief.

And that with the alliance were suddenly humans??? And that the Master Chief took off his helmet every 2 minutes. And I only saw fights in the first episode.
 
THE DUCK said:
Show was surprisingly decent, same people complaining are probably the same ones who would demand more story then complain there is too much story. Same ones who wanted an open world game then complained it wasn't focused enough. Same ones who demand halo stay true to its roots only to complain its not innovative enough. Supposed halo lovers who just want to complain about everything halo as a hobby.

Honestly the show could be the best show ever made on TV and these people would still complain.
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Nah the show was pretty bad.
I'm only a casual Halo fan, I was willing to accept the show as its own thing and didn't really care if they changed plot points and characters. But it was just bland, the main plot involving the Chief and Cortana was decent but it spends a ton of time on boring side plots and side characters.

Ultimately it ran into the same issue as most live action adaptation of franchises like Halo: Making a TV show with tons of action, and big setpiece moments, and cool sci fi environments, and convincing looking aliens is really expensive. So instead you get a show that's 90% people standing around in rooms talking (with only 2 or 3 cool action scenes in the whole season). And since the Chief/Cortana plot didn't really have material for a whole season of people talking you get terrible sideplots for terrible side characters like Kwan, and you give the Chief a silly love story, and you make the main alien threat a woman so you don't have to show the covenant too often, etc.

Animation is the way to go
 
I liked the show. It was fun for what it was. Honestly, I would say the same too for the Last of Us. I know people were drooling over that show for some reason. but to me, they were both fun to watch. if anything, if I had 1 episode of each I have to watch, ill watch Halo first as I am more interested in that universe than another zombie or infected fungi or whatever you wanna call it.
 
brian0057 said:
I still can't believe that League of Legends is the only franchise with a good adaptation, be it movie or show.
Yeah, I said it. Castlevania and Sonic were ok at best.
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Animation + Being able to tell a long term story works wonders. Look at what it did for Invincible!


Dune was never really "unfilmable," they just needed someone to do a Godfather PT 1 and PT 2 and adapt the book in multiple parts.
 
Rambotito said:
I love this show. It solved "what to name my character" in every game. Now everyone is John and the last name is the name of the game.
John Halo
John Persona
John Inquisition
John Division
John Mechwarrior
etc....
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I remember playing CoD Ghosts with a friend and joking that you play as John Ghost, but then shows his father, so we called John Ghost Senior

Jokes are real now. It's weird
 
THE DUCK said:
Show was surprisingly decent, same people complaining are probably the same ones who would demand more story then complain there is too much story. Same ones who wanted an open world game then complained it wasn't focused enough. Same ones who demand halo stay true to its roots only to complain its not innovative enough. Supposed halo lovers who just want to complain about everything halo as a hobby.

Honestly the show could be the best show ever made on TV and these people would still complain.
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Yeah I enjoyed it. It had some flaws but for the most part it was entertaining.
 
Spyxos said:
I expected the makers to familiarize themselves with the series for at least 5 minutes. I don't remember much about the series. Just this one sidecharacter that for whatever reason was almost more important than Master Chief.

And that with the alliance were suddenly humans??? And that the Master Chief took off his helmet every 2 minutes. And I only saw fights in the first episode.
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It doesn't need to match the game exactly, sometimes that is just boring anyhow. There as more action than just the first episode.
 
Fbh said:
Nah the show was pretty bad.
I'm only a casual Halo fan, I was willing to accept the show as its own thing and didn't really care if they changed plot points and characters. But it was just bland, the main plot involving the Chief and Cortana was decent but it spends a ton of time on boring side plots and side characters.

Ultimately it ran into the same issue as most live action adaptation of franchises like Halo: Making a TV show with tons of action, and big setpiece moments, and cool sci fi environments, and convincing looking aliens is really expensive. So instead you get a show that's 90% people standing around in rooms talking (with only 2 or 3 cool action scenes in the whole season). And since the Chief/Cortana plot didn't really have material for a whole season of people talking you get terrible sideplots for terrible side characters like Kwan, and you give the Chief a silly love story, and you make the main alien threat a woman so you don't have to show the covenant too often, etc.

Animation is the way to go
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I'm not gonna say it's the last of us or anything, but it was decent enough that I would like to see where they take it in season 2. Yes I think the cost was an issue too, but they did pretty good with what they had.
Animation wouldn't have interested a lot of people, myself included, was less broad appeal.
 
Just finished season 1 and it was pretty decent for someone who hasn't played the games.
 
GhostNTheBashShell said:
Animation + Being able to tell a long term story works wonders. Look at what it did for Invincible!


Dune was never really "unfilmable," they just needed someone to do a Godfather PT 1 and PT 2 and adapt the book in multiple parts.
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It also helps that, with it being a MOBA, and unless you're one of those League players that gives a damn about the lore, the game really doesn't have a story in the traditional sense.
Also, I've never played nor will ever play League. So my emotional investment with the IP is in the negatives.
The fact that they could make a show this good is baffling.

As for Dune, the problem was mostly trying to deal the fact that the book was written in third person omniscient. Turning that into a film where you have to hide information from the audience is no mean feat.
 
Can't wait to see who the master chief hooks up with in season 2. It is the best show for dating advice.
 
Fbh said:
Nah the show was pretty bad.
I'm only a casual Halo fan, I was willing to accept the show as its own thing and didn't really care if they changed plot points and characters. But it was just bland, the main plot involving the Chief and Cortana was decent but it spends a ton of time on boring side plots and side characters.

Ultimately it ran into the same issue as most live action adaptation of franchises like Halo: Making a TV show with tons of action, and big setpiece moments, and cool sci fi environments, and convincing looking aliens is really expensive. So instead you get a show that's 90% people standing around in rooms talking (with only 2 or 3 cool action scenes in the whole season). And since the Chief/Cortana plot didn't really have material for a whole season of people talking you get terrible sideplots for terrible side characters like Kwan, and you give the Chief a silly love story, and you make the main alien threat a woman so you don't have to show the covenant too often, etc.

Animation is the way to go
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Literally my issue with last of us.

It's mostly side plots and the main characters felt rushed and virtually 0 dangers in the world.

Did they cheap out? The show would've been incredible with intense clicker or bloater fights

Joel and Ellie rarely face danger, such a disappointment.
 
Fbh said:
But how many ass shots this season?
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If they were smart they should double down and CG/AI render his ass real time on his face because for whatever fucking mental reason this dude is always taking his helmet off. So if they keep doing the stupid thing then might as well give the people what they want:
Butt cheeks
 
From a Neil Blomkamp 200million space epic to ending up with a cheap looking Paramount + content filler, Microsoft sure knows how to manage their IP's.
 
poppabk said:
Just finished season 1 and it was pretty decent for someone who hasn't played the games.
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That's the thing, it was so off the games that it could have been called anything else and it would have made sense. Could have been called "Definitely Not Battlestar Galactica" 😉.

I got through a first few episodes and then noped out. Show actually kept getting worse as the season progressed.
 
Drizzlehell said:
Didn't even bother pirating the first season because it looked so terrible that it would be a waste of bandwidth.

I hope this will become a part of the reckoning that's currently culling the woke media. Along with The Witcher and whatever garbage Marvel or Star Wars property Disney is producing.
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Honestly, it's watchable (or maybe even enjoyable)...but that depends on how uncompromising you are about *some* of Halo's lore. People who are intimately familiar with Halo won't really like it while casual players may find it good/great. People who know nothing about Halo might even find it exciting and damn-near excellent. If you're able to go into it with a completely open-mind and let go of what you know Halo to be, you might actually enjoy it (or parts of it). But that's a pretty big ask for people who have been cemented in Halo lore for decades. People who say the entire show is/was bad are being a bit unhinged. The show actually has some really strong points. I'll simplify (without too much spoilers).

Cons:
- Pacing (but this is due to the story, related to a specific character).
- A particular character has a side-story that detracts more than add to the show. I'd say that character's existence is 80% the reason for the problems with the show.
- Set-pieces can be a bit bland or lacklustre.
- Character development of the Spartans is nearly nonexistent (largely due to this new character getting so much time)
- *Some* of the writing is bad.
- While some narrative points aren't bad, in and of themselves, they weren't necessary. Some things *might* have worked, but felt rushed due to the writers having to spend time on one of the new characters. Though show could have been just fine without those things too. If you watch it, you'll know what I mean.
-Shoddy CGI work that can pull you out of the immersion, though it's not too often.

Pros:
- Overall, the acting is good.
- Action sequences are between pretty good and damn impressive. There aren't many, but there doesn't need to be.
- One of the best CGI displays you'll find in a TV series. Some of it is really impressive, for the most part. Which is why when the shoddy parts appear, they stand out so much. Double-edge sword, I guess.
- Some interesting character development. Some characters lovable/likable and hate-able, but generally you like/love/hate who the writers want you to, and this is good. Unfortunately, if you're accustomed to video-game Chief, Chief might be one of the characters you dislike the most, ironically.
- There are some intriguing and suspenseful parts.

I'll also add, do not apply the game's context to the show - it will never work. You have to apply the shoe's context to the show for most of it to make sense, which is fair and reasonable. The problem many people have is, they try to apply the game's context to the show when that'll never work and honestly isn't fair to the show. *Some* of the key things that makes this different from the game's story is caused by one particular thing Halsey chose to do in the show that she didn't do in the video game. In truth, most of what happens in the show is a consequence of Halsey's decision to do that thing. I guess, Halsey in the game saw these potential problems unfolding and chose not to do what Halsey in the TV show did. It is mostly because of this one thing, why the stories veer off into different paths.

The helmet thing is a non-issue for me. I get it. And I also get that they (with smarter writing) could have left his helmet on the entire show, or have him remove it in some big climactic way. However, it's really the smallest issue with the show, and in the books Chief goes without his helmet/armour quite often. To me, this is one the smaller (and probably the smallest) problem of the TV show.

If you can't go into it taking it for what it is (its own separate story), then you won't enjoy it.
 
The Tourmaline Gorilla said:
Honestly, it's watchable (or maybe even enjoyable)...but that depends on how uncompromising you are about *some* of Halo's lore. People who are intimately familiar with Halo won't really like it while casual players may find it good/great. People who know nothing about Halo might even find it exciting and damn-near excellent. If you're able to go into it with a completely open-mind and let go of what you know Halo to be, you might actually enjoy it (or parts of it). But that's a pretty big ask for people who have been cemented in Halo lore for decades. People who say the entire show is/was bad are being a bit unhinged. The show actually has some really strong points. I'll simplify (without too much spoilers).

Cons:
- Pacing (but this is due to the story, related to a specific character).
- A particular character has a side-story that detracts more than add to the show. I'd say that character's existence is 80% the reason for the problems with the show.
- Set-pieces can be a bit bland or lacklustre.
- Character development of the Spartans is nearly nonexistent (largely due to this new character getting so much time)
- *Some* of the writing is bad.
- While some narrative points aren't bad, in and of themselves, they weren't necessary. Some things *might* have worked, but felt rushed due to the writers having to spend time on one of the new characters. Though show could have been just fine without those things too. If you watch it, you'll know what I mean.
-Shoddy CGI work that can pull you out of the immersion, though it's not too often.

Pros:
- Overall, the acting is good.
- Action sequences are between pretty good and damn impressive. There aren't many, but there doesn't need to be.
- One of the best CGI displays you'll find in a TV series. Some of it is really impressive, for the most part. Which is why when the shoddy parts appear, they stand out so much. Double-edge sword, I guess.
- Some interesting character development. Some characters lovable/likable and hate-able, but generally you like/love/hate who the writers want you to, and this is good. Unfortunately, if you're accustomed to video-game Chief, Chief might be one of the characters you dislike the most, ironically.
- There are some intriguing and suspenseful parts.

I'll also add, do not apply the game's context to the show - it will never work. You have to apply the shoe's context to the show for most of it to make sense, which is fair and reasonable. The problem many people have is, they try to apply the game's context to the show when that'll never work and honestly isn't fair to the show. *Some* of the key things that makes this different from the game's story is caused by one particular thing Halsey chose to do in the show that she didn't do in the video game. In truth, most of what happens in the show is a consequence of Halsey's decision to do that thing. I guess, Halsey in the game saw these potential problems unfolding and chose not to do what Halsey in the TV show did. It is mostly because of this one thing, why the stories veer off into different paths.

The helmet thing is a non-issue for me. I get it. And I also get that they (with smarter writing) could have left his helmet on the entire show, or have him remove it in some big climactic way. However, it's really the smallest issue with the show, and in the books Chief goes without his helmet/armour quite often. To me, this is one the smaller (and probably the smallest) problem of the TV show.

If you can't go into it taking it for what it is (its own separate story), then you won't enjoy it.
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Yeah, that's exactly why I don't care about it. I don't wanna watch a Halo show where the single most important figure of the entire franchise is the worst thing about it. That just sounds terrible. It's like you were to make a TV show about Obi-Wan Kenobi and then make him into a bumbling idiot who's constantly outsmarted and bossed around by a 10 year old girl-OH WAIT.

I'm just done with modern TV. I've already watched one too many of those travesties and I refuse to watch any more. There is a point where you just have to stop putting your hand on that stove.
 
Drizzlehell said:
Yeah, that's exactly why I don't care about it. I don't wanna watch a Halo show where the single most important figure of the entire franchise is the worst thing about it. That just sounds terrible. It's like you were to make a TV show about Obi-Wan Kenobi and then make him into a bumbling idiot who's constantly outsmarted and bossed around by a 10 year old girl-OH WAIT.

I'm just done with modern TV. I've already watched one too many of those travesties and I refuse to watch any more. There is a point where you just have to stop putting your hand on that stove.
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Again, context is everything. You'll only dislike MC in the show if you can't let go of how he's represented in the game. And in the context of the show, he's actually a great character (within the context of the show). He's highly intelligent, perceptive, gutsy, puts others before himself, is an excellent leader, has sharp instincts and is beginning to question the world around him (and the people in it), due to some new realisations...undoing something Halsey had done to him.

Within context, it's a good show. Though I also understand how and why some people won't like it or appreciate it.
 
The Tourmaline Gorilla said:
Again, context is everything. You'll only dislike MC in the show if you can't let go of how he's represented in the game.
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I think it's an inherently flawed argument. A Halo TV show should be about Master Chief stomping on aliens and having an epic adventure to save humanity. If it's anything else than that then it's not a Halo show, it's just trash. It would be like having a Tomb Raider movie where instead of watching Lara flipping around ancient tombs and being generally awesome, it would be about a bunch of lanky Indian dudes who constantly belittle her for stealing artifacts to amass even more fortune for her white privileged family. It's just an idiotic idea that somehow only gets a pass when it's the male power fantasies that the writers get to deconstruct and strip down.
 
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Drizzlehell said:
I think it's an inherently flawed argument. A Halo TV show should be about Master Chief stomping on aliens and having an epic adventure to save humanity. If it's anything else than that then it's not a Halo show, it's just trash. It would be like having a Tomb Raider movie where instead of watching Lara flipping around ancient tombs and being generally awesome, it would be about a bunch of lanky Indian dudes who constantly belittle her for stealing artifacts to amass even more fortune for her white privileged family. It's just an idiotic idea that somehow only gets a pass when it's the male power fantasies that the writers get to deconstruct and strip down.
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ok, for TV execs not reading this, can I make it real fucking simple, ADAPT THE FUCKING GAME'S STORY by all means make a few changes to make it a bit easier for TV/Film or improve the story maybe ala "The Last of Us" but my christ why fuck about and cause controversary that is getting people to talk about your show but in such a negative light its backfiring now (thankfully)

It alwyas reminds me of how no one has been able to adapt Resident Evil, its a classic haunted house story, its really basic and yet they add these weird twists or adaptations on for no reason

That reminds me, I dipped out of this after 3 episodes, they gave more screentime to that Korean girl with the shitty haircut than Master Chief
 
SCB3 said:
ok, for TV execs not reading this, can I make it real fucking simple, ADAPT THE FUCKING GAME'S STORY by all means make a few changes to make it a bit easier for TV/Film or improve the story maybe ala "The Last of Us" but my christ why fuck about and cause controversary that is getting people to talk about your show but in such a negative light its backfiring now (thankfully)

It alwyas reminds me of how no one has been able to adapt Resident Evil, its a classic haunted house story, its really basic and yet they add these weird twists or adaptations on for no reason

That reminds me, I dipped out of this after 3 episodes, they gave more screentime to that Korean girl with the shitty haircut than Master Chief
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Yeah, exactly what I'm talking about. Like, what the fuck is this shit? Why is Chief's helmet off and he's being dissed by some child and Cortana looks like she's about to ask to speak to a manager at Target?
 
Show is terrible. I remember visiting WETA studios in New Zealand and seeing the costumes, props, and Warthog they built for the Neil Blomkamp movie, and thinking what a waste it was that they never made that. Too bad they didn't go with that instead.
 
Oh yes I just hope this new season brings lots of focus into characters that aren't Masterchief, Cortana or Spartans.
That and sex, lots of sex. We all know Halo has always been about the human side-characters and sex scenes with bare buttocks.
 
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