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Have Kotaku pulled a Digg with their resign? It's so bad

Well there has been all that news recently about the un-contacted tribes in the Amazon. I have a hunch they are the ones who aren't using RSS yet, though that still seems a little old fashioned, even for tribes from the stone age...
 
Duracelllll said:
Going to us.kotaku.com and clicking on any of the stories just takes me to the front page of kotaku.com.au now.... wasn't like that yesterday.

Of course if I go to kotaku.com it just takes me to kotaku.com.au I want to go to the US site, not the AU site... :\

Just come to the AU site!
 
I might be the most tech/net savvy person among all friends I know, but I have no idea what RSS is or how it works. I should look into that.
 
Gotta be honest, I just visit gaf for news, game and otherwise. Place is so highly visited and people are usually so speedy with posting things that all the bases get covered fast. Thank you gaf!
 
holy shit, just noticed this. Wtf was Gawker thinking? not only does it waste so much space and just looks bad, but it runs like shit on my netbook. Looks like i won't be visiting any of their websites anytime soon. So many websites down the drain. shame.

RIP Lifehacker
 
Cartman86 said:
I feel terrible admitting it, but I kind of want to know the reason too. I kind of get annoyed at Kotaku's opinions at times, but they are an opinion site no? I don't read it enough to know if they get facts wrong. As a blog I want opinions, but I do have a problem with screwing with the facts. Hell Giantbomb is all about opinion and I love it for that.

I will agree that sometimes Kotaku posts stories related in no way to videogames, and that is pretty weird.

I'm sure I'm ignorant and someone will explain why they are so terrible and I'm blind for not seeing it.

EDIT: What does everyone think of Destructoid?
Ya, I'm with you. I like a few of their writers like Michael McWhertor and Stephen Totilo. Hell, even Leigh Alexander can be good when she doesn't mix math with drinking, so I never got the hate. And they're pretty good at blogging during conferences. But, they can be a bit quick to post unverified stuff (even though they label it as 'rumor'), which GAF posters do as well, but a forum should be allowed more slack than a news site.

Which makes the new design suck for me, as it's so hard to navigate I've deleted my Kotaku bookmark. I'll miss it.
 
Gowans007 said:
Oh my god it's awful!

http://kotaku.com/

I specialise in interface design for a world wide corporation and this goes against so many rules for user focused environments, YUK!

It looks like they have just ran with new web trends (two column social networking sites/twitter & mobile apps) for their news site if relevant to the format or not. But worst of all only show one post on the page (via horrible JavaScript fade) to enhance their click per story.

Terrible user experienced, I can't believe they got swept away with this.
Surely this is bad enough to hurt their audience.


Whats your thoughts GAF?

So, I guess Kotaku doesn't think we can handle reading listed text-links or tags. Too complex. Now, it's all polished, simple, and linear. Reminds me of a museum exhibit; look, but don't touch. :X
 
Tux said:
So, I guess Kotaku doesn't think we can handle reading listed text-links or tags. Too complex. Now, it's all polished, simple, and linear. Reminds me of a museum exhibit; look, but don't touch. :X
What really killed it for me was the speed, the site no longer scrolled smoothly.
 


At least N4G's redesign is still pretty much the same with minor changes. I can still navigate like I used to and find what I want. Too many dead-ends in Kotaku now. Before I could click on one story and find 3-4 other stories that were related.

Now, I click on one story and then click the back button. Then spend too much time searching for something else. I guess they wanted it to work like a real news paper-paper. Meh.
 
exwallst said:
Seems awful now but these things tend to grow on me.
Every time I go there it gets worse and worse, the opposite of growing on me. Even their "classic" mode is evil - I click on a story, get the full info. I click back...and I'm gone from the Gawker site, at the last page I was at before I went to Gawker.

Clue guys: if what you do disables a browser's basic ability to go back and forth, you're doing it wrong.
 
The design is busted. The Youtube videos are stupidly small to make anything out and scrolling through the original design was much easier. The newspaper text doesn't fit the genre of the site at all. They've gotta have some changes in the work, because there's too many simple things it does wrong.
 
I used to check out Kotaku once in a while too see if anything interesting cropped out. Not only is the redesign terrible, but the content is horrible. I'm just fed up with that guy that posts random shit about Japanese dolls and just downright pointless stuff that has nothing to do with gaming, because he has an obsession with Japanese culture.

My main point, is that after my info got leaked on the internet to be hacked, and your private chat logs, where you call all of us "peasants" and that it's not a big deal since the staff accounts weren't hacked at that time. You guys have no respect for your userbase, and your site is just a cesspool of garbage. I honestly hope news about Kotaku/Gawker stops on these forums.
 
Penny Arcade takes another jab at the design:

pa_gawker.jpg
 
For the hell of it, I tried visiting kotaku on my iPad. You can't even scroll through the news list on the thing. tried two finger scrolling which works in every other text box window. nothing. it's completely broken

what a dumb design. Of course, kotaku first tries to redirect you to the mobile site if you're on an ipad. but the mobile site is built for tiny cell phone screens. the ipad is perfectly capable of viewing a full page layout.

everything about this design is awful. they should pull a Tropicana, scrap it, and go back to a simple blog roll and focus on clean design, adequate white space, and universal access across devices.
 
Dwayne said:
blows my mind people "check sites" for news, isn't this what RSS is for?

What blows my mind is that this new layout is essentially an RSS reader. It's Google Reader flipped horizontally. I really can't see where Gawker thought making each of their blogs into a standalone RSS reader made sense. Toss in that horrible ad placement - which makes scanning feel so claustrophobic - and you have a real disaster.

I've read that it's an attempt to get more page views by removing excerpts. Seems they'll simply end up removing their audience.
 
I love the change. Hopefully people stop visiting that shithole and it dies like Digg.
Bad_Boy said:
call me retarded but I really don't know how to navigate the new design.
First rule of design is if your customer doesn't know how to use your product, it's the designer's fault.
 
I've been following some Gawker sites on Alexa and the pageviews seem to be down 25%+ week-over-week.

It's not just that the design is bad but it is basically nonfunctional now. It doesn't work. I am trying to look at the comments but they are all screwed up and hard to follow. The scrolling on the right side bar doesn't work in my browser (IE7 but it's at work) half the time. What a mess. I don't care about Kotaku too much but I do like Deadspin.
 
diffusionx said:
I've been following some Gawker sites on Alexa and the pageviews seem to be down 25%+ week-over-week.

I believe they don't care about page views anymore. Nick Denton is selling ad time based on big stories and specific times of the day (like TV networks do). They are selling unique visitors....

The page view drop might spook some stupid, young media buyer, but eventually they'll come around to it. The page view model of evaluation is a dead end street and everyone knows it... just no one wants to pull the trigger like Gawker did.

Now, if the unique visitors plummet, well, that's a major fucking issue.

I don't think the design is good, but the spirit behind the design certainly is.
 
anything gawker says about these designs being for ease of use, blahblahblah, etc. is 100% bullshit- this design is all about increasing pageviews... you can't even navigate without loading the story. gawker doesn't want you browsing their headlines, they only care about pageviews. that's why their "journalism" is shoddy and so is their site design.

we really need to stop feeding that troll and driving curious (or stupefied) people to the site, even this negative publicity is making them money. ignore them and their pageviews will dry up and they'll go away.
 
El_TigroX said:
I believe they don't care about page views anymore. Nick Denton is selling ad time based on big stories and specific times of the day (like TV networks do). They are selling unique visitors...

The page view drop might spook some stupid, young media buyer, but eventually they'll come around to it. The page view model of evaluation is a dead end street and everyone knows it... just no one wants to pull the trigger like Gawker did.

Now, if the unique visitors plummet, well, that's a major fucking issue.

I don't think the design is good, but the spirit behind the design certainly is.

Eh, they need people to visit to sell those, and the "headline" stories I see on Kotaku are the same insipid dogshit they post all day. If some moronic Leigh Alexander navelgazing is considered a headline nowadays, consider me officially checked out.
 
Anslon said:
This should be put as the name of the thread.

Edit: Clicking on links still takes you to the crap redesign. I should have known it was too good to be true.

I still see the old layout for the articles. Maybe because I'm in Canada?
 
Kotaku is getting no comments at all...

It used to be a race for people to get first, and now the posts are going days with no comments. RIP Kotaku 2011

RobotsAnger said:
I still see the old layout for the articles. Maybe because I'm in Canada?

Yes, it auto redirects Canadian IP's to the Canadian subsite.
 
Aquavelvaman said:
Wow. I wonder if "page views" is being accurately tracked because of the weird frames that their sites use now. The visits don't seem that radically different...

Yeah, I'm not sure.
 
Serves them right. I don't miss Kotaku, but I really miss io9. I wonder if their page views have dropped as heavily. Surely someone behind the scenes is seeing this and is going to bring back the old layout.
 
Aquavelvaman said:
Wow. I wonder if "page views" is being accurately tracked because of the weird frames that their sites use now. The visits don't seem that radically different...

Yep that's what I'm thinking as you never leave the main frame anymore.
 
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