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[Zen_Arcade]

I understand the point but.. what are we trying to accomplish?

do you think overweight people aren't aware of their overweight and that you telling them about it will all of a sudden make them change their lifestyles?

regarding addresing it for the sake of children, I can see a school teacher talking to parents about a child's overweight and making them aware that something has to be done against it.

but only someone with that kind of authority.

A random relative, friend, neighbor and such? I still think it's none of their business, in fact they'd do well to shut up.

there are plenty of kids with plenty of behaviour problems in the world and people leave them alone, I don't see why overweight children have to have a random adult lecturing them and their parent about the topic.

I would never bring up another person's weight unless I heard them trying to tell other people that being over weight is fine. I've never once told someone that they should be concerned about their weight unless asked. It's none of my business otherwise.

I feel that that's the line between personal choice and trying to influence others into starting/continuing bad habits just because that person either doesn't care or is in denial about the realities of being over weight. I wouldn't hold my tongue if someone said being overly skinny (Like I am) or smoking was perfectly fine to do. So I don't see why I should hold my tongue if people are saying the same thing about being over weight.

What I'm trying to accomplish with that is not letting things like scientific facts get pushed by the wayside and ignored by a third party just because someone thinks that society should become accepting to their bad habits.

 

[G.ZZZ]

imo fat shaming is fine but fit shaming is vile

Words of wisdom

 

[Violet_0]

I'd only mention that topic to family, or maybe close friends under certain circumstances - and only when I can reasonably assume that they wouldn't take it too personally. Otherwise, as always, my stance is to let people do what they want, it's not my place to criticize their life style

thin shaming doesn't even register with me, never bothered me personally

 

[ClosingADoor]

Healthy living should be promoted through positive messaging in schools and such and incentives to make healthy food cheaper - free healthy school lunches - and unhealthy food more expensive - and outright not sold at schools.

Don't be an ass about someones weight. Unless they constantly complain about it without trying to do something themselves. Then I'll say it is up to them and they shouldn't blame others for their problems. Your body, and in most cases - unless there are medical issues - you can change it with effort.

At least that's how I feel about it.

 

[Platy]

The intersection of being healthy and being beautiful according to societal standards is not nearly as large as people assume it is.

Anorexia and Bulimia are a shit thing

 

[clav]

Healthy living should be promoted through positive messaging in schools and such and incentives to make healthy food cheaper - free healthy school lunches - and unhealthy food more expensive - and outright not sold at schools.

Don't be an ass about someones weight. Unless they constantly complain about it without trying to do something themselves. Then I'll say it is up to them and they shouldn't blame others for their problems. Your body, and in most cases - unless there are medical issues - you can change it with effort.

At least that's how I feel about it.

The thing is corn (syrup) and meat are heavily government subsidized, so change needs to start from there.

That might take a while or most likely will never happen. I think we know what the outcome is already.

I only help people who ask for advice on losing weight. I don't actively shit on them because I've seen a lot of shitty things that people do to each other. Even on this board, we see what I like to call silent bullying. People tend to think bullying as someone who actively throws physical beatings towards another person. Silent bullying is passive aggressively putting down someone through words and other nonviolent actions.

The world could use more people who can support society, not destroy it. Pulling people down is too easy as it happens every day.

For everyone out there: Are you the person who yells and flips tables when something goes wrong and points fingers for scapegoats in difficult scenarios? Or are you the person is OK we have this problem and how do we move on from here?

 

[Delio]

You should read Kevin Smith's account of being booted from a plane for this exact reason.

I've worried about this as well while on a plane. I'm a overweight guy and I basically push myself into a corner so the person next to me feels more comfortable. Yeah Losing weight would make that even easier.

 

[SeanTSC]

Anorexia and Bulimia are a shit thing

They are so much a shit thing and that shouldn't ever be understated. They are deadly bad for your health, can lead to infertility, and extreme depression and suicide. My gf went through this and made a few attempts to end it all before we met.

 

[Littlefang]

Generally other people's lifestyles should have no affect on you.I know that some of the complaints about fat shaming (especially when it comes to fitness advertisements and such) can be a large overreaction, but people shouldn't be harassed because of their body weight.

That being said, of course we shouldn't pretend that being obese is healthy. But when we broach the subject, it should be done tactfully. I do think there is a lot of pressure for people to lose weight very rapidly and when they don't see these instant results they get discouraged. When my dad discusses losing weight with his patients his biggest goal for them is that they actually put some effort into exercising. So that can be stuff like "let's start by walking for half an hour each day".

Now for diet I have no clue know how we could get people to change this. I can really only say that planning out meals ahead of time and knowing how to effectively utilize a food budget certainly makes this process easier. Cooking honestly isn't that hard to learn the basics of, but there isn't much incentive for a lot of people to actually put in the effort.

 

[kitchenmotors]

OP, dude, you really have no right to fat shame people when you can't even keep your clothes clean. Not keeping up with hygiene is unhealthy as well, and you should focus on yourself than worrying about the health of others or how unhealthy their lifestyles are.

 

[TheLastCandle]

imo fat shaming is fine but fit shaming is vile

Fat shaming is not "fine". Making anyone feel shamed about how they look is never fine, and counterproductive.

 

[ClosingADoor]

The thing is corn (syrup) and meat are heavily government subsidized, so change needs to start from there.

That might take a while or most likely will never happen. I think we know what the outcome is already.

Very true, but hopefully the government will step in and make chances sometime. Especially with kids this is important. If a child is already overweight, he will probably be for most of his life and have a harder time losing weight also - and keeping it off. With constantly rising healthcare costs this should take a major priority in the government agenda, but it won't.

 

[jman2050]

People do not like to be condescendingly told things they already know as if they were some sort of ignorant child.

Anyone who has ever been overweight knows that it is unhealthy and that there are potentially terrible things that can happen to them as result. What they choose to do about it is their business, not yours.

 

[DOWN]

It's okay to tell young people they have unhealthy habits but not adults and idk how you approach adults

 

[ipukespiders]

Healthy living should be promoted through positive messaging in schools and such and incentives to make healthy food cheaper - free healthy school lunches - and unhealthy food more expensive - and outright not sold at schools.

Except most people don't know what healthy food is (the food pyramid/plate is wrong).

 

[ClosingADoor]

& for your information, since it didn't seem to come across in my first post and you wanted to know if you were being rude- uh, if my little brother told me that he told his friends that he didn't want to go on a second date with a girl because she was fat, or that he'd dump her if she gained weight, I'd be really disappointed with him as well because I definitely didn't raise him that way.

While it is true that women are more judged on looks, I think the breakup thing goes both ways. If I gained a lot of weight and became a lazy slob, a girl has every right to dump my ass.

If you go on a first date with a guy and you don't find him attractive because of whatever reason, why would you plan a second date? In this case he wasn't attracted to her because of her weight. There is nothing wrong with that. Just don't tell it to the girls face of course and be an asshole.

Except most people don't know what healthy food is (the food pyramid/plate is wrong).

That should be taught in school and promoted through government campaigns then. I also don't know exactly what is healthy, but I stay clear of sodas and fast food for example. Both of those should be taxed accordingly, while giving tax breaks or subsidies to healthy alternatives to prevent costs rising for poorer families.

 

[clav]

& for your information, since it didn't seem to come across in my first post and you wanted to know if you were being rude- uh, if my little brother told me that he told his friends that he didn't want to go on a second date with a girl because she was fat, or that he'd dump her if she gained weight, I'd be really disappointed with him as well because I definitely didn't raise him that way.

You'd be surprised how many divorced women out there because of how many men mirror what your brother said.

Such an awful world.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

While it is true that women are more judged on looks, I think the breakup thing goes both ways. If I gained a lot of weight and became a lazy slob, a girl has every right to dump my ass.

Absolutely. I meant it to go every which way. This is why I put effort into using gender neutral phrasing in all these hypotheticals.

 

[spekkeh]

Unless you tell people who drink coca cola, people who smoke, people who use drugs, people who do other unhealthy things ... than you probably should just don't talk that someone fat is unhealthy.

You should probably tell a diabetic who's drinking coca cola, a lungcancer patient who's smoking, an addict who's doing drugs, just as much as someone who is obese and eating unhealthy.

Sure you can do something unhealthy every now and then, I think if you're seriously obese, you kind of went past 'every now and then'.

 

[Kevyt]

It seems most people agree with me here. My family thought I was a horrible person for agreeing with the rest of this thread. They thought it was especially bad that I would have told my friends I wasn't interested in a second date because the one I went on a date with was fat, and that I would consider breaking up with someone who had gained 30 kg since we met. They thought I was really shallow. My mother actually said "I didn't raise you to be this way". My sister probably won't talk with me in a week. I'm glad to hear I'm not completely in the wrong.

If you are dating someone and all of a sudden they gain 30 kgs then maybe they were miserable with you to begin with?

And maybe... Breaking up with that person is a blessing in disguise because they deserve someone better than you?

I dunno...

 

[DizzyCaffeine]

Absolutely. I meant it to go every which way. This is why I put effort into using gender neutral phrasing in all these hypotheticals.

Ever heard the phrase "it's a man's world" before?

 

[...Scatter...]

imo fat shaming is fine but fit shaming is vile

You're not wrong.

 

[Wilsongt]

Personally, I think it's rude to tell some of your friends they are fat or getting chubby. I have had several friends who have gained quite a bit of weight, but I never told them they should lose weight. However, many of them did go on to lose their weight.

Personally, I wouldn't want someone to tell me I am fat and I need to lose weight. I hate myself enough as it is and my weight and feel like I am a fat slob ( I'm 5'10" and 203lbs) that if even a close friend told me I was fat I would get really depressed.

I am a male, btw. People having problems about their weight is not strickly a female issue. Men can also have personal problems with their body image.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I would only tell people I care about if I think they should do better with their health.

 

[Kater]

imo fat shaming is fine but fit shaming is vile

Nah fat shaming is vile too. You don't know the full story of every fat person. You certainly don't choose to be fat, it's a slippery slide down that path for most and a hard climb over years to get to a healthy weight again, depending on how much they weigh.

OP, dude, you really have no right to fat shame people when you can't even keep your clothes clean. Not keeping up with hygiene is unhealthy as well, and you should focus on yourself than worrying about the health of others or how unhealthy their lifestyles are.

Yuck, OP pls :x

 

[Violet_0]

uh, if my little brother told me that he told his friends that he didn't want to go on a second date with a girl because she was fat, or that he'd dump her if she gained weight, I'd be really disappointed with him as well because I definitely didn't raise him that way.

eh, I don't know about this. You can't really decide who you feel attracted to, and you certainly can't decide for someone else. This applies to all genders. If a person is too tall or too short, or their hair is too spotty or they have other shortcomings (from your perspective) - even when they might have a great personality, otherwise - it's a bit too much to ask people to overlook all these perceived issues because it's the right thing to do. Yes it can be quite superficial, but that's how attraction works

 

[Vazra]

People overall should mind their own business when it comes to this. If they don't affect you directly is not your business to tell them they are unhealthy or that they look bad or whatever. There are people who likes all kinds of bodies and overall people should be respectful of everyone no matter what body they have. It's their life and you have no right to judge them.

If that person is a friend or family you can talk about your concerns of their weight because of health reasons but if its for the visual aspect of it you are probably being shallow about it. Also not every person that is overweight is automatically unhealthy. There is skinny people who are unhealthy and and healthy overweight people. Overall its their life and not yours to tell them if they are right or not.

 

[...Scatter...]

One of my employees at work told me I was putting on some weight. It was true of course. I was a stud and turned dad body. I told her "I know". Didn't get mad at all. Went and killed it in the gym again and crushed it till I was back to my beastly self. Took a couple of months to fully get back. I honestly needed a kick the ass.

 

[shoreu]

As long as you aren't attacking someone over their wait and consistently insulting them the topic of losing weight can be discussed but you need to be careful because some people are sensitive.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I always find it weird when people call me out for not wanting to date fat girls. How is that being shallow? the way I see it when someone is fat it tells me a big deal about his or her personality. It tells me they lack a basis sense of disciline. It's really not that hard not to be fat. Why have so many people trouble understanding this? It's not like you have to do something to not be fat, you simply don't have to do something - which is eating more than you actually need. And someone who doesn't even have discipline for that is probably not someone I imagine being cool around with.

Personally I go even further that that. Any women who is not into some kind of sport (I may be just running) does not appeal to me. Total dealbreaker. I've been overweight and know how easy it is to stay in a solid shape. There is really not that much to it and everyone can do it.

That said, I don't think that fat shami g is inheritly bad. I for one wish someone would have told me earlier that my weight is spiraling out of control because then I would not have the strech marks I have now. But no, because everyone was so super nice to me and didn't want to say anything I have to live with that shit now.

 

[ClosingADoor]

I don't care why my brother doesn't want to go on a second date or why he wants to break up with his gf, but he should have kept that shit to himself and not told his friends.

You can break up for anyone for any reason. No one is owed your attention, love, or affection. I am a strong advocate of this. But, keep that shit to yourself, especially if it's shallow.

Why can't someone discuss his dating life with friends? If he didn't go on a second date with her because she was uninteresting, had smelly breath, didn't offer to split the check, would that be OK?

Of course be a bit tactful with it. Don't go around being an ass to the girl or her friends. But I can say whatever I want to my friends, and so can she to her friends.

If you've been slacking off at work for awhile, and then get fired, would you really be like "whatever" if your wife left you and said you were no longer a good man because you couldn't provide for your family anymore (even if she had a job and the both of you were fine and there weren't money problems), and then went around telling people "yeah I dumped him because he got fired from his job and didn't make money anymore, just worthless to me after that."

Someone doesn't suddenly gain 30kg. So I would probably notice, talk to her about it, see if there are any problems we can deal with together. I hope she would do the same if I showed signs of being unhappy or have unhealthy changes. But if there aren't and she is not trying to improve herself, then I don't see anything wrong with breaking up with someone.

If someone gets fired and then just sits at home doing nothing, a woman has every right to leave the man also of course.

It is the refusal to deal with the problem that would get me to leave I think. And I wouldn't blame someone for doing the same to me also.

 

[Bel Marduk]

You should probably tell a diabetic who's drinking coca cola, a lungcancer patient who's smoking, an addict who's doing drugs, just as much as someone who is obese and eating unhealthy.

Sure you can do something unhealthy every now and then, I think if you're seriously obese, you kind of went past 'every now and then'.

Its not as if obese people don't know that they're unhealthy -- despite what ever kind of mental gymnastics some say in order to justify hurting themselves

You're not going to change their minds either just like you won't with someone who is a smoker -- they have to want to be healthy more than a poor diet and sedentary lifestyle

There's not really any point in trying to convince them

 

[SeanTSC]

Alright, I've got enough drugs in me to get personal.

On talking to other people about being overweight - man I fucking wish I had someone to talk to me about it. I really do. I wrecked my body hard and it's difficult to come back from. I will be working on it for a very long time.

I dropped out of high school at 15 years old due to my various conditions and have lived a mostly sedentary life since then due to them. I'm 33 years old, 5'6.5 tall, and currently 249.6 lbs and at my highest I've been 275+ lbs. The lowest I've managed to get myself down to as an adult was 180lbs before I blew up again (I did this just through dieting back when I was like 28-29 and it just didn't take). I lived a lot of that alone, in tiny apartments, on an abysmal disability pittance and with shit health care and guidance.

Partly due to living like that and partly due to reason out of my control I am in extreme pain every day. I've got nerve damage, arthritis, atrophied muscles, and neuropathy problems (likely fibromyalgia). My legs, feet, and ankles never stop hurting in various ways and my back and upper body isn't so great either. Often the ankle pain is so bad that I can't sleep and the Doctors around here are loathe to regularly prescribe the kinds of painkillers that would help me.

At least some of that pain, and definitely my weight, could have been avoided had someone been a nosy person and said "hey, I know you can't really go outside, but you should really take care of yourself better somehow within your own circumstances" and offered me help. That would have done a lot for me and probably added quite a few years to my life.

My girlfriend is trying to help me through it in her own ways now, but with how far apart we live for the moment it's difficult. Plus, she's not exactly the super encouraging type and has her own extreme weight issues to deal with on the other end of the spectrum that I try to help her with too. Also I'm still *completely* fucking baffled that she finds me sexually attractive and gets excited by me.

Right now I'm trying to eat better as I go and I'm trying to do 42-43~ minutes on a Semi-recumbent exercise bike every day. I just do it during one of the TV shows that I download and watch and it's working out well that way. It's really fucking hard though and there's immense pain in my knees the entire time.

I really wish I could have gotten started on it all sooner rather than later. It'd have been nice had someone said something and unfortunately I didn't have the presence of mind to talk about it online until it was much too late. I know it would have still been very difficult to change my lifestyle given my existing conditions and being mostly stuck inside regardless of how anything went, but it'd have made such a huge difference.

 

[Spyware]

The biggest problem with fat shaming is that it makes fat people less likely to go out in public and less likely to do something about it. People laugh at "the funny ugly fatties who tries to run". They take pictures of fat people dancing or doing any form of exercise and shame them so much that they stop doing it. They share it online because haha so funny look at that fat blob that we don't even consider a person with feelings!
If being fat is so mega horrible, why shame the people that are actually trying to do something about it? It makes me furious.

I've tried gyms and I've tried just going out walking in my town. People seriously stop to point and laugh at me. How is that gonna make me less fat?

Not shaming people is not the same as saying "it's healthy and good to be fat". Just let us to our thing without being dicks to us.

 

[TM94]

Ok, a bit more controversial: The whole fat acceptance thing. Should we really actively be telling people that they are beautiful and great just the way they are, even though they are living a potentially dangerous lifestyle?

No coddling is dangerous, fat people need to be told the truth by someone or better yet realise it themselves.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

The biggest problem with fat shaming is that it makes fat people less likely to go out in public and less likely to do something about it. People laugh at "the funny ugly fatties who tries to run". They take pictures of fat people dancing or doing any form of exercise and shame them so much that they stop doing it. They share it online because haha so funny look at that fat blob that we don't even consider a person with feelings!
If being fat is so mega horrible, why shame the people that are actually trying to do something about it? It makes me furious.

I've tried gyms and I've tried just going out walking in my town. People seriously stop to point and laugh at me. How is that gonna make me less fat?

Not shaming people is not the same as saying "it's healthy and good to be fat". Just let us to our thing without being dicks to us.

That's horrible behaviour

 

[nded]

If you're going to confront someone about their weight problem, then you better be willing to actually help them do something about it. People who smoke, drink, do drugs and overeat probably know it's not great for them, and just rolling up to "inform" them about what they already know without any engagement beyond that likely comes off as condescending or outright discouraging.

 

[LosDaddie]

I wonder, what's the end goal here? To have fat people perceived as attractive as fit/not-fat people?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

It's not about why, it's about saying it to his friends.

I wouldn't tell my friends that I dumped a guy because his dick was too small or that he was gross. I wouldn't say it's because he didn't make enough money or had a shitty job or didn't have a better college degree. I wouldn't say it's because he was fat and lazy and gained weight... especially if it's specifically about someone.

Well, there is a difference between talking about someone who you have been with for a while (which the word "dump" implies) and about someone you just went on a date with once. If you have been together for a while you probably have some shared friends and you shouldn't be telling your ex's friends that he has had a small dick or smelly jeans.

 

[cookester]

I always found the strategy of shutting the fuck up about other people's bodies to be a good strategy.

If you get upset by other people posting about their own fitness, then there's something wrong with you.

Dating preferences, when actually looking, don't need to be expressed to the person you are dating. If you reject someone for a physical reason, it doesn't need to be said. This goes back to keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing nice to say.

Being Canadian shutting the fuck up about other people's cost on our healthcare system is not a good strategy. Everyone should take care of themselves, if its a sickness get help. Don't be a drain on society. Eating yourself to death doesn't just affect the person doing the eating. It costs everyone.

 

[ClosingADoor]

It's not about why, it's about saying it to his friends.

I wouldn't tell my friends that I dumped a guy because his dick was too small or that he was gross. I wouldn't say it's because he didn't make enough money or had a shitty job or didn't have a better college degree. I wouldn't say it's because he was fat and lazy and gained weight... especially if it's specifically about someone.

All of that that reflects a lack in grace, and that's where my disappointment with my brother would come in.

& yes, girlfriends have said that x or y guy is too short for them to date, and I find it distasteful because it perpetuates an idea that is very emotionally/mentally damaging for men.

It depends a bit on how it goes. I probably won't outright say "I stopped seeing her because she was fat." But if the conversation went something like:

"Why you'd stop seeing X?"
"I wasn't attracted to her."
"Oh, why's that?"
"She was overweight."

I don't find that something bad to talk about with friends.

From your examples, I also don't see anything wrong with saying "He doesn't really have a career and I'm looking for someone further in life" for example.

But it's still a conversation between friends. I'm not going to be completely tactful to prevent hurting someones feelings who isn't even there and will never hear about it. If these are friends of the both of you, you talk about it differently of course.

 

[TheLastCandle]

The biggest problem with fat shaming is that it makes fat people less likely to go out in public and less likely to do something about it. People laugh at "the funny ugly fatties who tries to run". They take pictures of fat people dancing or doing any form of exercise and shame them so much that they stop doing it. They share it online because haha so funny look at that fat blob that we don't even consider a person with feelings!
If being fat is so mega horrible, why shame the people that are actually trying to do something about it? It makes me furious.

I've tried gyms and I've tried just going out walking in my town. People seriously stop to point and laugh at me. How is that gonna make me less fat?

Not shaming people is not the same as saying "it's healthy and good to be fat". Just let us to our thing without being dicks to us.

As someone who grew up overweight this was my experience with being overweight. None of the jabs from people made me encouraged and eager to try and lose the weight. It just made me depressed and not want to leave the house.

 

[JimmyRustler]

The biggest problem with fat shaming is that it makes fat people less likely to go out in public and less likely to do something about it. People laugh at "the funny ugly fatties who tries to run". They take pictures of fat people dancing or doing any form of exercise and shame them so much that they stop doing it. They share it online because haha so funny look at that fat blob that we don't even consider a person with feelings!
If being fat is so mega horrible, why shame the people that are actually trying to do something about it? It makes me furious.

I've tried gyms and I've tried just going out walking in my town. People seriously stop to point and laugh at me. How is that gonna make me less fat?

Not shaming people is not the same as saying "it's healthy and good to be fat". Just let us to our thing without being dicks to us.

I don't want to generalize but I had some very bad experiance with overweight people. I always try to be as polite as possible and I had tons of overweight people asking me about nutrition and training in the gym. You know how many of those actually followed my advice? NOT A SINGLE ONE. And no, I'm not shitting you. It got so bad that by now I flat out refuse to help anyone. Wonder if you fall into this catergory.... If yes, I have no symphaties for you, sorry.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Not to me.

If you think it's more okay to be a dick to someone you don't know as well, as opposed to maybe treating them with the same kindness regardless of how well you know them, then.. okay.

Agree to disagree, then.

So you have never talked shit about someone ever in your life?

 

[kitchenmotors]

I don't want to generalize but I had some very bad experiance with overweight people. I always try to be as polite as possible and I had tons of overweight people asking me about nutrition and training in the gym. You know how many of those actually followed my advice? NOT A SINGLE ONE. And no, I'm not shitting you. It got so bad that by now I flat out refuse to help anyone. Wonder if you fall into this catergory.... If yes, I have no symphaties for you, sorry.

Just because you give someone advice that doesn't mean they have to automatically take it. Everyone has their own issues or demon's to deal with. People are overweight because of health issues or stress that might be out of control, not just for a lack of a good diet.

But continue to generalize people and be a jerk because of it. As someone who is fit and goes to the gym 6 days a week, you make it sound like it's extremely easy. But even for someone as myself who has an active lifestyle and an active job, it is not easy.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Just because you give someone advice that doesn't mean they have to automatically take it. Everyone has their own issues or demon's to deal with. People are overweight because of health issues or stress that might be out of control, not just for a lack of a good diet.

But continue to generalize people and be a jerk because of it.

What? If they ask for my advice I should assume they wanna take. But no, every time you say something that doesn't go along "it's a cakewalk" if you do this you can actually see how they already give up on it.

@ your Edit: It is very easy. I'm not talking about getting in a shape that I'm in as someone who does sports every day but simply getting back into healthy shape. Sorry, but with all due respect, that is nit very hard.

 

[cookester]

Not to me.

If you think it's more okay to be a dick to someone you don't know as well, as opposed to maybe treating them with the same kindness regardless of how well you know them, then.. okay.

Agree to disagree, then.

Supporting someone who is eating themselves to death is not a good way of handling it either. Sometimes people need harsh reality rather than encouragement. We put disgusting pictures on cigarette packages, maybe there should be pictures of blocked arteries on McDonalds fries.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I'm okay with fat shaming to an extent as a pretty overweight guy. It's unhealthy to be as fat as I am and I should be reminded of that and looked down upon because it is self inflicted in my case. With kids it's usually awful or with already mentally unstable/susceptible people.

It always depends on the context. It comes up in my family quite often but I mostly laugh about it because my mother doesn't realize what awful things she's saying to me and my brother.

 

[Princess Carl]

How many threads of people needing others to tell them what to do, or threads where if people aren't EXPLICITLY told the truth about something, they will continue to believe in a reality where maybe it's not really true?

There's a point where I think the question, "Don't they already know about their body, their image in the eyes of society, interpersonal relationships, etc" isn't actually a credible defense; because there are a lot of people that through becoming essentially invisible to society(can't talk about this or that cause I don't want them to feel uncomfortable), they are left with nothing constructive to work on but their own inner thoughts and motivations. Hardly the best thing when you are in a rut or need support.

I wish more people would have told me I was borderline obese instead of everyone playing "ignore the problem and it goes away", fully aware that I was different and treated different, but got no feedback from it. And then I can die young from health problems that I wasn't really thinking about because everyone skirts the necessary "hey youre kinda fat bud, do you wanna be even fatter when you're older and can't do anything about it?" topic.

And the one thing that still makes zero sense to me, NO ONE IS GONNA MAKE FUN OF YOU FOR TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT WHAT IS THIS LOGIC? I always become elated when I see someone in the process of getting healthier working out and always say hi and be nice to them. Why wouldn't you? It's fit encouragement, not fat shaming.

As someone who grew up overweight this was my experience with being overweight. None of the jabs from people made me encouraged and eager to try and lose the weight. It just made me depressed and not want to leave the house.

Exercise inside? See how you are treated while you making an effort somewhere? The last sentence should not be the end of your story, you didn't even try and fail. Like, peoples words should not be your scape goat for guilt eating or staying unhealthy. I know...

 

[cookester]

I'm okay with fat shaming to an extent as a pretty overweight guy. It's unhealthy to be as fat as I am and I should be reminded of that and looked down upon because it is self inflicted in my case. With kids it's usually awful or with already mentally unstable/susceptible people.

It always depends on the context. It comes up in my family quite often but I mostly laugh about it because my mother doesn't realize what awful things she's saying to me and my brother.

I used to be overweight. All it takes is a little determination and changing small things in your life. One day at a time and you can help yourself.