Everything seems balanced around low-level play right now. It's not reassuring.
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Well its a game with a very low barrier of entry. Its super easy to comprehend and the mechanics are far more beginner friendly then in alot of other CCG/TCG/LCG's.
Blizzard games have allways been very casual friendly.
This is not a bad thing in my oppinion. It has opened the eyes of alot of people to the beauty of card games.
MonorailCat
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Yep, now that I'm hooked on card games I wish there would be an online MTG with equal Production values. But the ones I found just seem so clunky and lifeless.
Yes something like that. Having it be based on your mana or your cards in hands or whatever is infinitely better then the current state.
Or they could make it simply be a fixed cost that fills whatever free board spots you have with 2/2 dogs with charge. Would be a great comeback vs a mage that just cleared your board.
I actually quiet like Magic 2014. I also think the production value is quiet good on that.
My only gripe with it, is the horrible deck building, or more like total like of deck building mechanics.
I do understand they do it to protect the physical game.
But I still enjoy playing that once in a while. Mostly is HS and Netrunner though.
They're taking the same approach Riot did, which was to promote the growth of their casual fanbase before moving on to competitive balance.
I don't like it, personally speaking, but it's a good business move.
It's more important for them right now, as a relatively new and experimental approach to creating games (for Blizzard), to make sure their game maintains its momentum and gets enough players to be financially profitable than to promote a healthy competitive environment. And the easiest way of accomplishing that is to nerf "unfun" strats that dominate the low levels.
That said, the balance issues between classes at high levels are more or less staring them in the face and not so much as a comment, which is rather disheartening.
I don't like it, personally speaking, but it's a good business move.
It's more important for them right now, as a relatively new and experimental approach to creating games (for Blizzard), to make sure their game maintains its momentum and gets enough players to be financially profitable than to promote a healthy competitive environment. And the easiest way of accomplishing that is to nerf "unfun" strats that dominate the low levels.
That said, the balance issues between classes at high levels are more or less staring them in the face and not so much as a comment, which is rather disheartening.
michaelius
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It's a pity MTGO doesn't have visuals of Magic 2014 - it would make all other online card games redundant
theMrCravens
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What's a good Mage and Druid meta deck ?
There's prob a good site for good deck setups, but I'm not sure where.
There's prob a good site for good deck setups, but I'm not sure where.
MonorailCat
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Mage:
1) Pick ALL the freezing spells and secrets
2) Pick ALL the fireballs and pyros
3) Win every game by pressing the "well played" emote 20 times when you topdeck your pyroblast
On hearthpwn.com are some deck-lists.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Cause unlike northshire priest, if you happen to not have a 2 damage card on hand very early on, the match can quickly steam roll with how powerful card draw is. With northshire priest you can generally just stall playing cards and give him no opportunity to heal his minion to trigger the effect. It probably outright sucks vs mage now though. Which is a shame.
They probably measured how successful the card was at 2/2 when played early on and found it to be too disproportional vs a couple classes.
MonorailCat
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Water Elemental Buff confirmed:
Hafu attacked Water Ele with dagger, was still frozen next turn.
Yay, finally mages are competetive again
Edit: Pack + 120 Gold for 5-3 wins. Seem slike a huge gold buff. I normally got betwen 0-50 for 5 wins.
Hafu attacked Water Ele with dagger, was still frozen next turn.
Yay, finally mages are competetive again
Edit: Pack + 120 Gold for 5-3 wins. Seem slike a huge gold buff. I normally got betwen 0-50 for 5 wins.
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Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
at 10 health, mage has 16 cards left, 1 is pyroblast. yep he drew it fuck this game.
Professor Lich
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Just went 3-3, got 50 gold and a card pack.
Curious to see what you pros get at +12 wins.
Curious to see what you pros get at +12 wins.
MonorailCat
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Seems to be 300+. Some posted about 400+ Gold.
Sweet.
MonorailCat
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Yep, no more forced retiring to get better rewards.
And one exceptional run can fuel 2-3 bad to mediocre runs.
Seems like a good change, but still too small of sample size to really know.
Thanks! Just what I was looking for!
MonorailCat
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I went 5-3,only got 55 gold and a Pack
Be glad about it.
Before patch there would be good chance that your "reward" would have been a pack, 5 Gold and 15 Dust.
Professor Lich
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Noticed a new bug. Put down a Imp Master one turn, it took damage and spawned an imp. Next turn I played a Blood Imp, Imp Master went up to six health instead of five. Going to do more testing on this.
I mean Starving Buzzard is two cost. Getting it out early isn't exactly the greatest because you're not going to get much card draw out of it. Outside of that it's a very plain 2/2. I'm not sure what these classes are that have so much trouble with 2/2s early in the game.
This bug is very real. Blood Imp is resetting the HP of a minion.
It already was and still is.
michaelius
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What do you mean by now ?
Fair point. I've seen some fun buzzard openings, but would never actually attempt that deck due to the hilarious inconsistency (my hunter is still level 1, lol)
Now it's just like... play your buzzard, get it killed by the mage's ability, go?
MonorailCat
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They introduced new bugs, while not fixing the old bugs.
Minion dancing still in.
Panda card bug still in.
Defender of Argus still sometimes bugs out.
Fixed tracking bug, introduced Blood Imp bug.
Overall I give them an F in Bugfixing.
Professor Lich
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Yeah, just happened again. Interesting.
Blizzard spaghetti code strikes again!
MonorailCat
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Stormwind Champion seems to have the same Bug as Blood Imp.
Healing + applying buff.
Just read about it in the Bug Report Forum.
Healing + applying buff.
Just read about it in the Bug Report Forum.
RumblingRosco
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I could have sworn in a game early today my opponent had a 1/2 out, I hit it to bring it to a 1/1, then he played a Blood Imp on his turn and it went up to 1/3.
Fuck, I thought I was just hallucinating. This suddenly makes Blood Imps full-heals for everything on the board, plus an extra health point. Is this bug consistent? It's hugely game breaking if it always happens.
Princess Carl
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Of course they raise arena gold rewards literally the day after I spend 450g on arena runs.
Blood imp bug means I'll prolly not continue my current arena run until it is fixed; I really like my Paladin deck and I would like to get at least 6 wins.
Blood imp bug means I'll prolly not continue my current arena run until it is fixed; I really like my Paladin deck and I would like to get at least 6 wins.
Pretty sure Pyro needs to be moved to 10cc.
MonorailCat
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Judging by the current update speed you probably won't play HS for a long time then
Or make spells affected by Taunt.
I would agree with that.
Professor Lich
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Oh, you get bonus starts for win streaks, that's pretty cool.
RumblingRosco
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They need Spell Taunt minions since they aren't likely to offer instant counters during your opponents turn. I think that'd be one of the best fixes.
Like, a 4 mana 2/4 minion with "Spelltaunt: Spells cast by the enemy player must target this minion."
They could also introduce Spell Resistance of some sort: "Spell Resistance: This minion takes X less damage from spells."
Lactose_Intolerant
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The new patch seems really buggy. I've had cards sliding in behind other cards in my hand and global +1 attack and health seems to be really buggy. My imps are giving +2 health.
guess these are known
guess these are known
LogicalFallacy
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Any comment by Blizzard on the Defender of Argus bug? It just lost me an arena game and I don't plan on continuing my run until it's confirmed fixed.
Oh, good, it's not just me being sloppy.
mysteriousmage09
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They just need more secret cards for classes. Say, a shot for hunters to counter with when a spell is cast, one for paladins that has a 2/1 or something come out to take an incoming spell, a 2/1 treant for druids to do the same, etc.
MonorailCat
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Nope, many people have this problem.
Stealth defender nerf.
They ignored most of the Bugs since 2 Months.I wouldn't count on a quick hotfix.
Professor Lich
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Thought this was a bug, but secrets go back into your hand now. Or maybe it bugged, I don't know, but it still worked.
What I was originally going to say is that I find it funny that people say "Well Played," for simple things like playing a board clear or something. I mean, I always say thanks, but I still think it's silly.
What I was originally going to say is that I find it funny that people say "Well Played," for simple things like playing a board clear or something. I mean, I always say thanks, but I still think it's silly.
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