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Hello Games - "No Man's Sky was a mistake." [Up3: Disgruntled Employee]

At least if the Tweet and the email are both hacks, it might flush him out of hiding to make a public comment.

That may have been the plan...
 
What's your win condition? What is it that people hope to have happen to either Sean Murray and Hello Games?

Them to go bust?
Them to never release another game?
Sean Murray to not have a job any more?
All involved to be drummed out of the Games industry
Sony to never market any Indie games on the PS4 again?

What is it that people who have been continuously going on about this game for months want?

Whats your win condition? Im really interested to see if its less than driving people to suicide.

I would like accountability.

Admission of the mistakes and why those mistakes were made.
I think they are talanted people and dont want to see them go out of business. Were they victims of AAA marketing? Was it their own over ambition.

Unfortunately someone HAS to be made an example of. So many publishers/developers get away with so much shit and its not fair to the paying consumer.
 
Next time Hello games? Be fucking honest damnit that's all we fucking want, period. Don't led the world on or we will find out what you were hiding sooner or later. An by God don't treat us like idiots.
 
Getting bad vibes from this for some reason. I hope he's ok. He needs to learn from his mistakes and move on.

I never bought it or bought into the hype but I understand people would be pissed.
 
The axiom of "don't preorder" doesn't preclude the idea that Hello Games shouldn't have lied or misrepresented their product.

That's not exclusive to NMS, but for some reason this game get singled out.

People want to see Sean go down, and it seems like they were successful.

That sucks.
 
Reached for comment Friday morning, a person responding to Murray’s email account and identifying himself Sean said that he sent the tweet.

“The tweet is from me, but somebody from the team took it down,” he wrote in the email. “We have not been coping well.”

"We have not been coping well?" That's something you say after your family loses a family member. This is video games. So you made one sub-par game. Just start developing your next game and move on?
 
Don't blindly trust anyone selling you a product is generally a good way to live. That doesn't mean you should wish the worst for anyone, who might have been involved in making a product that in the end, was not worth the money you managed to spend on it. It's crazy I know. But no, lets all be man babies instead, and look at everything in black and white.

Novel concept:

If someone lies, not only the one who has been lied to is to blame. Also the liar.
 
I don't think anybody is saying he shouldn't open a line of dialogue and talk about why they cut certain features, future plans (if they are any), and so on. But you have to realize that doing just that is made much more difficult when there is such a massive stream of vitriol and hate aimed at their social media accounts and across the Internet.

In the end, the discussion comes down to what we can control. We can't control what is cut from the game or their choice of talking to us after a game ships. We can control whether or not we give them our money.

His silence is what drove the vitriol to unsustainable levels.

He lied prerelease: he had an opportunity to clarify everything before it came out and to explain what's missing. He said nothing.

One day 1 when the 'nearly impossible' situation happened: 2 people found each other but they couldn't see each other. He ignored that, and just post 'wow!'. He could've explained. He said nothing.

A week passes and the PC release comes out. He says nothing.

After a week of silence, reddit makes a giant list of all the missing features. People dig into the network code, etc and see that the stuff he claimed wasn't even coded into the game. He says nothing.

2 months later. He still said nothing. Now the snowball is huge. Of course everyone is angry. He neglected the situation and now it got out of hand.
 
No Man’s Sky creator tweets game was ‘a mistake’ - Studio lead confirms via email

http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/28/13453440/no-man-sky-creator-game-was-a-mistake?

His lies about the game were the mistake. He was on late night talk shows making stuff up that you could do in the game. That said had he been honest about it's limitations it wouldn't have sold as well.

I think if he was to apologize many would have forgiven the lies used to sell more copies. I feel like they are playing the victim when they clearly aren't. Just own up and people will forgive.
 
If Sean Murray apologized and explained what really happened, this would be a lot easier.

A guy in this thread, on Neogaf, just commented that he takes real-life pleasure from the misery of others, and wishes nothing but life's worst on him and the rest of the studio. If you think this stops with Sean Murray apologizing, then you're completely mistaken. The fact that you're expecting an apology from him personally, even though the entire studio is really at fault, attests to this fact.
 
No Man’s Sky creator tweets game was ‘a mistake’ - Studio lead confirms via email

http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/28/13453440/no-man-sky-creator-game-was-a-mistake?

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I don't really feel sorry for Saun or anybody directly involved in decisions on how to present the game, but I do feel sorry for how rocky the careers will be for just your average coding joe in that team. Do you think they'll even put it on their resumes?
 
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