I'm 25, and I've been on my own for two years now living about 50 miles away from my parents. Last December I flew my internet love out to San Francisco to live with me, and it's been a great experience. Anyone who tells you that you can't live in Northern California without an advanced degree or tech skills just hasn't tried hard enough.
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Kung Fu Jedi
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It really is a big cultural issue. In most parts of the world, people live with their parents until they are ready to get married and have a family of their own. In the United States, it's really not like that for the most part, and their are bad connotations for living at home after a certain age.
For me personally, I couldn't stand living at home once I moved out for college. I enjoyed having my own privacy and being able to do what I want, when I wanted. Even though my parents respected my privacy a lot more, they are still my parents, and would want to know what was going on. Plus, trying to date and bring someone home was just awkward.
For me personally, I couldn't stand living at home once I moved out for college. I enjoyed having my own privacy and being able to do what I want, when I wanted. Even though my parents respected my privacy a lot more, they are still my parents, and would want to know what was going on. Plus, trying to date and bring someone home was just awkward.
I moved back home a couple months ago (I'm in my 30s). My parents were having trouble making their mortgage payments due to the current economic climate hurting Dad's business. I couldn't help them much at all financially while renting. However, by leaving the apartment and moving into their spare room I can pay them rent (less than I was paying previously), they've agreed not to charge me a share for electric, internet or water bills (there goes ~$200 per month), and I'm helping them keep their house. It helps them and it helps me. Sucks for the rental businesses or potential real estate agents though.
I see no downside at the moment, except the can't-run-around-naked issue. When I get married I'll want to move out, or perhaps if job opportunities lead me to move.
I see no downside at the moment, except the can't-run-around-naked issue. When I get married I'll want to move out, or perhaps if job opportunities lead me to move.
Picture yourself 25 years from now: You're 50. You're financially secure and you've finally got a little spare cash. You've got a window of about 10-20 years where you can really enjoy yourself before your body starts to betray you. You'd like to travel and see the world. Or maybe have some dirty sex in your kitchen at noon on Saturday. Or you want to sell the house, and downsize to a smaller one so you can afford a Corvette and a sailboat and have dirty sex in that at dinner time on Tuesday.
And you could do it all, if only that 25 year old otaku pothead son of yours would move out of your basement and take his smelly neckbearded friends with him!
Hope that helps!
And you could do it all, if only that 25 year old otaku pothead son of yours would move out of your basement and take his smelly neckbearded friends with him!
Hope that helps!
CompositeMolar
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There really is no right age rationally speaking. Socially there is definitely a stigma which change with cultures and that some in this thread have shown nicely but what really matters is that you take the time to really look at your situation both financially and emotionally.
If you have a good relationship with your parents you should just ask them to be honest and tell you exactly how they feel about you still living at home, it might help you make a better choice in the end.
If you have a good relationship with your parents you should just ask them to be honest and tell you exactly how they feel about you still living at home, it might help you make a better choice in the end.
Skiptastic
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CharlieDigital said:
You are right with much of that post, but it goes back and just confirms my original thesis that it is about independence. There's nothing fabricated about independence when you take on a huge commitment chain by yourself. It would be fabricated if someone else paid for it, but when you say "I'm going to get a job, live in this one place, and take care of this establishment", you are not only independent, but you're a fucking grown up and you should be proud of that.
What do they call it when you can take care of yourself without depending on the work/resources of others? INDEPENDENCE. There is nothing false or fabricated about it.
Now, should the OP get themselves into responsibility without regard for their financial welfare just because of some idea of independence? I don't know. If they would get no satisfaction from that independence, then I would say no. If they don't go out and try to get laid, don't mind having parents around when friends are over, don't mind living with their parents and are sheltered emotionally, then I would say don't move out.
But, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of this thread to convince the OP to move out?
navii said:
Oh, that's right. So let's figure out how to do that.
navii said:
- You get to leave your room messy if you'd like.
- You can bring your gf over whenever you want without having your parents prying into your business (yes that kinda goes in with the loud, noisy sex).
- People won't think you're a loser
- Your girlfriend and/or future prospects for relationships will think of you as an emotionally and financially independent person.
- You won't be leeching off your parents hard work
- You can gain some pride that, hey, it's hard work to secure a job and pay bills on time and consistently. You should definitely be proud of that.
EDIT: Slo wins! :lol
Pop On Arrival
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Slo said:
:lol
Reminds me so much of someone I know.
I'm turning 24 in September, and I will be buying my own place with my best friend in October.
I'm from the culture that you stay with your parents until you are married, but like most have said, I'm not oblivious to the stigma that it is here in the US.
My only requirements are
- I have minimun of 6 months of covered expenses in my savings
- It will be a purchase, not a rental
- It will make sense as an investment, so that when me and my roommate move out in 1-2 years, we can pull money out.
I'm a real estate investor, and living with my parents has been great in saving money. With that said, the cheapest ways (not renting) that I could think of in moving out for me are:
1) Rent with the option to buy (with 100% going towards the purchase price)
2) Buy a multi-unit and rent out the other unit(s).
3) Buy a house with a room mate.
I'm going with option 3.
I'm from the culture that you stay with your parents until you are married, but like most have said, I'm not oblivious to the stigma that it is here in the US.
My only requirements are
- I have minimun of 6 months of covered expenses in my savings
- It will be a purchase, not a rental
- It will make sense as an investment, so that when me and my roommate move out in 1-2 years, we can pull money out.
I'm a real estate investor, and living with my parents has been great in saving money. With that said, the cheapest ways (not renting) that I could think of in moving out for me are:
1) Rent with the option to buy (with 100% going towards the purchase price)
2) Buy a multi-unit and rent out the other unit(s).
3) Buy a house with a room mate.
I'm going with option 3.
Canadian Maniac
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Over 25?
At an age like that, it's time to stop being a manchild and re-allocate your anime and video games funds to rent/utilities and try being an independent human being for the first time. Try it, it feels great, man. This aspie talk about perpetual debt is from people who lead far too sheltered lives. I'm really referring to Western cultures here, if you're not from one, hey, then keep doing your own thing.
I will grant that people attending school while living at home are generally exempt from this criticism, I wouldn't know or care unless I actually knew the person in questions.
Also, Slo's reply is awesome.
At an age like that, it's time to stop being a manchild and re-allocate your anime and video games funds to rent/utilities and try being an independent human being for the first time. Try it, it feels great, man. This aspie talk about perpetual debt is from people who lead far too sheltered lives. I'm really referring to Western cultures here, if you're not from one, hey, then keep doing your own thing.
I will grant that people attending school while living at home are generally exempt from this criticism, I wouldn't know or care unless I actually knew the person in questions.
Also, Slo's reply is awesome.
Slo said:
I was worried about that too.. a friend from work suggested the idea of rooming together and I dunno. Seeing him all day at work and home would get annoying fast.
God I wish I could just find a single room affordable appartment. I don't want a roomate but I want to move out all the same.
travisbickle
Member
Slo said:
That's the correct answer, either be a burden on your poor parents or get a better job then tossing burgers and be financially dependent.
I fell into the trap of having no money when finishing university, I went back to my Mum's for a bit but within 6 months of me being home she became engaged to her partner of 4 years, so she pretty much gave me 6 months to move because she was selling the house. I helped her repaint the house, her and her now husband sold their houses, got a nice place together and have been travelling abroad a lot the last few years, my Mum deserves it. Don't be a burden to your parents.
Also Mortgage guy, you can sell your house and change your mortgage for a new house, or gasp get rid of your mortgage all together if you want to travel. You're not bound for 25 years to one house.
CharlieDigital
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travisbickle said:
Of course you're not. But you have conditions in which you obviously don't want to sell your house, for example, the current shitty housing market. Not only that, in purchasing a house, you accrue stuff; lots of stuff. It makes it difficult to have the flexibility to move around the country let alone the world. I don't know man, sounds like a lot of you guys don't understand the realities of a mortgage. The house across the street from me was on the market for 6 months and dropped their prices like 3 times until taking it off the market. The house down the street from me has been on the market for closer to 9 months. Fuck, if you needed to move to another state for a new job, you're basically fucked if your employer won't help you out.
Things aren't always rosy. This isn't the real estate market of 2003, 2004, 2005. This is a new reality where property inventory way outnumbers property demand. I dunno, I think I read that supplies are currently out 11 months and property values are declining across the nation.
Look, I'm not saying this from the perspective of a guy who's never had a mortgage. I've already had one and I'm in my second one. My perspective is from my own experience. I purchased a townhouse at 23. Sold it. I purchased a house last August and I'm living in it now. I'm not some old timer or some young kid. I'm your age; I'm 26 and I'm going through the same experiences you guys are going through. I'm trying to convey that view that you need to make sure you've done things in life which can really only be done with a lack of financial obligations like travel, move around the country, etc.
I'm not advising anyone to never buy a house. I'm advising everyone to keep your options open and don't feel pigeonholed into buying one unless you are ready for the commitment. If you've never had a mortgage through a tough economy or housing market, you have no fucking idea how mentally stressful it can be. I had a period of unemployment when I had my first mortgage and it was the most stressful time in my life and incredibly depressing.
I'll be honest: the only reason that I even have a house is because of my wife's insistence. If it were up to me? I'd live frugally at home for a good while and build a nice stash of cash; the benefit is career mobility, less money paid in interest over time when obtaining a mortgage, and generally less responsibility. You have like, 40-50+ years to be responsible and financially tethered, why rush into it if you're not ready?
chaostrophy
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I moved out at 18 and never even thought about moving back in with my parents. But maybe you shouldn't move out if you need to be convinced? My parents were very controlling when I lived with them, they made it clear that the house was theirs and they made the rules. If you're happy with the relationship you have with your parents, they give you all the freedom and space that you want, and being there doesn't cause any problems with your social life, you may as well stay.
Okay, I'm kind of in the same situation as the OP, but a bit different.
I'm 23, recent college graduate.
I have a job that pays enough for me to rent my own place and support myself independently.
I work in the same city that my parents' house is located.
So I decided to live in my parents' house. I have a bedroom upstairs, a whole bathroom, and the entire basement all to myself. I can come and go as I please. I can have people over when I want to (I entertain guests in the basement). They don't ask me to pay rent, power, water, sewage costs. I've offered, but they just tell me to save up for a condo or house. I buy my own food, pay for my own monthly bills.
Is this more acceptable? Or is this still 'shunned'?
I'm 23, recent college graduate.
I have a job that pays enough for me to rent my own place and support myself independently.
I work in the same city that my parents' house is located.
So I decided to live in my parents' house. I have a bedroom upstairs, a whole bathroom, and the entire basement all to myself. I can come and go as I please. I can have people over when I want to (I entertain guests in the basement). They don't ask me to pay rent, power, water, sewage costs. I've offered, but they just tell me to save up for a condo or house. I buy my own food, pay for my own monthly bills.
Is this more acceptable? Or is this still 'shunned'?
Ceres said:
I will make sure I go in at the right price. To give you a concrete example, a house that I liked already is a 3/2 w/ pool and a canal in the back. It is worth around $200k, the bank is asking $166k (needs work), and my offer was $100k. The most I will offer is $115k.
I expect prices to bottom out by the end of next year, so even if they bottom out at $160k, we will still be in the green.
thetrin said:
Depends where you live. I just turned 26 and live at home. Everybody I know under 30 still lives at home, except for my girlfriend (who is 29 and owns a co-op). Some areas just have unreasonable housing costs (even in this market) and even the apartments are expensive. Where I live it's ~$400k for a house in a decent area, and $1250-1500 a month for an apartment. I'm here while I can save money for that 20% down payment, while enjoying my mother's Italian cooking.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
That seems like an excellent arrangement that makes perfect sense (both economically and otherwise), but yes, according to North American culture it's undesirable.winnarps said:
CharlieDigital said:
How about so you can quit taking money out of the pockets of the people who've been paying your freight for twenty or more years?
The selfishness of this is just astonishing to me. You're recommending to people that to make their lives easier, they continue to make their parents life more difficult. Because responsibility is HARD. We call the assumption of responsibility growing up. Everyone has to do it sometime.
I'm 24 and living in my parents' Manahttan apartment. I graduated college just over two years ago and I've held a pretty good consulting position the entire time (now $55k).
My gf recently graduated grad school and got a job in Manhattan ($40k). We really wanted a house/condo, but even though I've saved many thousands by staying home, I can't afford a good down-payment just yet.
We looked for apartments in Manhattan* and found a small, renovated 1-bedroom for $1875/mo. We gave a "good faith deposit," but after looking closer at our budgets and considering the overall size of the place, we pulled out at the last minute and lost the entire deposit in the process.
We may not get to be together all the time like the apartment would allow, but we will save a lot more money by staying home a little longer. It gives us much more freedom to take trips and visit friends, and we can grow our savings toward a better downpayment in the future. The place we looked at had severe drawbacks, like the bedroom being only 9'6" x 8'2". That's barely enough for one dresser, let alone one for each of us plus room to actually walk.
My parents realize how difficult it is living in NYC. They have no problem letting me live rent-free until I can afford a decent place. They refuse to let me pay a share of our current rent. My gf's parents' house in NJ is very nice and has everything she needs. Commuting may be tough, but it's better than having no money for travel or casual spending.
* I know Manhattan is supposed to be expensive. I don't feel like explaining all the reasons.
My gf recently graduated grad school and got a job in Manhattan ($40k). We really wanted a house/condo, but even though I've saved many thousands by staying home, I can't afford a good down-payment just yet.
We looked for apartments in Manhattan* and found a small, renovated 1-bedroom for $1875/mo. We gave a "good faith deposit," but after looking closer at our budgets and considering the overall size of the place, we pulled out at the last minute and lost the entire deposit in the process.
We may not get to be together all the time like the apartment would allow, but we will save a lot more money by staying home a little longer. It gives us much more freedom to take trips and visit friends, and we can grow our savings toward a better downpayment in the future. The place we looked at had severe drawbacks, like the bedroom being only 9'6" x 8'2". That's barely enough for one dresser, let alone one for each of us plus room to actually walk.
My parents realize how difficult it is living in NYC. They have no problem letting me live rent-free until I can afford a decent place. They refuse to let me pay a share of our current rent. My gf's parents' house in NJ is very nice and has everything she needs. Commuting may be tough, but it's better than having no money for travel or casual spending.
* I know Manhattan is supposed to be expensive. I don't feel like explaining all the reasons.
Kandrick
GAF's Ed McMahon
Meh, just like someone said earlier, it depends if you feel ready for it, and have the money income.
Not everyone has parents that are willing or that can pay rent for them, or help them when moving out.
So yeah, move out as soon as possible, if you can. If not, who cares what anyone thinks.
Not everyone has parents that are willing or that can pay rent for them, or help them when moving out.
So yeah, move out as soon as possible, if you can. If not, who cares what anyone thinks.
CharlieDigital
Banned
besada said:
Don't make assumptions.
I paid my mom $500/month when I lived with her. It's a win/win since she's still paying her mortgage. The actual additional cost for her, with me living there, is probably less than $100/mo. (Also, to this day, I pay the cell phone bill for the entire family, a monthly cost of $260.) No situation is black and white. I hardly consider living with parents to be mooching or anything of the sort considering that the additional cost for the parent is really only in the utilities and maybe a bit of the groceries. Most parents are glad to allow their children to live with them so that they can save money and make a sound financial decision.
Aside from that, my situation may be different than most. My mother is a single parent, so she was more than glad that I was around to help her with housework and taking care of the house.
winnarps said:
Acceptable, but don't give a damn what I or anyone else says.
Bottom line: "independence" or "pride" or "being a fucking grown up" doesn't pay the bills, especially when the economic shit hits the fan.
(edit: except for a notable few, it seems like a lot of answers here always assume an average-or-better economy. Good luck in the future with all of that..)
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
i know i shouldn't say anything. but i'm 25 and live at home. yes, it is sad and pathetic but i'm not some otaku. i'm just a normal guy who took longer to decide what he was going to do. my parents don't mind helping out with their good income. i just simply can't earn enough to buy an apartment. and when i can i will.
winnarps said:
It sounds like you have a healthy arrangement with your parents. A lot of people aren't that lucky though, you are still there little baby and have no privacy or freedom.
There is nothing wrong with moving back in temporarily - say when you get out of college and are establishing yourself or I've even had some friends move back in temp. after getting married. The marriage can cause a huge strain on your financials along with a new focus on purchasing a home instead of continuing to rent. Sometimes, it can be a great asset to pay off some debt and build up a bit of money for a downpayment on a home.
If you're living at home 25+ without some kind of extenuating circumstances... eh, that's getting pretty strange then.
BakedPigeon
Banned
Milk living at home out as long as you possibly can without becoming that loser who still lives with his parents. Why not reap the benefits a little longer and wait to actually start paying for your own shit?
Don't plan on getting laid though.
It is almost always significantly cheaper to live with another person.ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
If you're renting, to rent a studio apartment, or a single room apartment, is much more expensive than renting a two bedroom with someone else.
In terms of bills, phone line and internet charge are reduced significantly as you're paying the bulk of that cost for the connection itself and not data/toll calls. Utilities usually work similarly, at worst you'll be paying the same unless your flatmate thrashes a heater that everyone has to pay for. Even then you can calculate the cost of that quite easily and charge them for it.
I moved out because in the room I rent I have more space, I can walk to most places I go to in my day to day life, and it's generally more of a social environment than living with your parents. My cost to commute to school was eliminated, so it doesn't cost me too much considering that.
GodfatherX
Member
im back home after being out since 02
my relationship with my ex-fiancee ended in December and ive been home since then, to complicate things I trusted her way too much and as such we let her mom buy everything and we paid her back in cash meaning her mom has all the receipts and rights to the furniture bearing no proof of ownership from me
and to make things worse I had been paying everything for the last year while she was in nursing school, which was literally living check to check. So essentially i was without a place to live, no furniture [minus my hdtv/gaming shit], and no cash after almost 8 years of being together 4 months before our wedding date
so ive slowly been building myself back up to where i can afford to move out and have the things im used to, and my new job making $7.50 an hour more then my last job [which already paid decently] is making moving in the next 2 months very likely
and to be honest i hate being at home, because since I moved out i never borrowed or accepted any help from my parents, kind of feel worthless when your back home at 26, not to mention having your own place is extremely rewarding
my relationship with my ex-fiancee ended in December and ive been home since then, to complicate things I trusted her way too much and as such we let her mom buy everything and we paid her back in cash meaning her mom has all the receipts and rights to the furniture bearing no proof of ownership from me
and to make things worse I had been paying everything for the last year while she was in nursing school, which was literally living check to check. So essentially i was without a place to live, no furniture [minus my hdtv/gaming shit], and no cash after almost 8 years of being together 4 months before our wedding date
so ive slowly been building myself back up to where i can afford to move out and have the things im used to, and my new job making $7.50 an hour more then my last job [which already paid decently] is making moving in the next 2 months very likely
and to be honest i hate being at home, because since I moved out i never borrowed or accepted any help from my parents, kind of feel worthless when your back home at 26, not to mention having your own place is extremely rewarding
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Fortunately, "growing up" and "assuming responsibility" have nothing to do with moving out. It's just a unjustified cultural meme.besada said:
Of course, if parents think you're a burden, don't stay with them. They don't owe you anything, and I don't think anyone in this thread is saying otherwise. However, if your parents don't mind having you, what's the problem, exactly?
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
i read in some sociological study that way more people are living with their parents longer. i guess you couldn't tell from looking at this thread, but its something like a 30% increase from people in their mid 20 in the 1980s that lived at home. our generation is simply just taking more time to figure out what to do with their lives
i mean, its certainly nothing to be proud of, living at home. but just because i'm in my mid 20s and cant afford a place, what am i supposed to do, kill myself? and who's to say when i get out of school i won't be making great money and living a great life.
i mean, its certainly nothing to be proud of, living at home. but just because i'm in my mid 20s and cant afford a place, what am i supposed to do, kill myself? and who's to say when i get out of school i won't be making great money and living a great life.
Cloudy said:I moved out at 19 but my parents paid my rent till I finished college
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
Fuck, I wish my parents were financially well off. They just had their house foreclosed on, and are living with their friends with my little sister. My brother who just graduated from high school is living with my grandmother, and I'm couch crashing at various people's houses (friends, relatives, etc.) while I feebly try to put myself through college.
I wish I had the "Should I move out of my parent's home" dilemma. Being a homeless college student blows.
Rabbit Lord
Member
Man, get the fuck out. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with your Parents?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Snaku said:
Ouch, hopefully it works out............ my dads a mill manager in a gold mine if Africa so yer, hes alright. Its crazy, mines actually track him down to work for them.
thetrin said:
I'm 25 right now living with my parents. I've been working a real job since December of 2006. Originally I was planning on moving out next year but my parents gave me a deal I couldn't refuse. They asked me to stay another 2-3 years and they'd help me towards buying a house. This sure as hell beats me moving into an apartment and saving up cash for a house.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
In fact, cultural groups that don't consider living at home to be taboo (like Chinese and Indians) significantly outperform the average American, in education and income. I'm not saying that means living at home will make you do better at life, just that the idea of home-dwellers being low-achieving manchildren isn't based on factual data.Tyrone Slothrop said:
ShadyMilkman
Banned
do you enjoy looking at yourself in the mirror and seeing a loser?
if not, there's your convincing
if not, there's your convincing
:lol
I'd like to see the expression on some of these Gaffer's parents' faces if they read what has been written in this thread. Don't move "until you're ready?" As a parent, I'd be pretty upset if I raised a child who's self-centered enough to only look at moving out that way.
Yes yes, I know all you people who are advocating staying with Mom and Dad perpetually (ahem, until you're ready) have parents who tell you all the time they love having you around. Lol..
I'd like to see the expression on some of these Gaffer's parents' faces if they read what has been written in this thread. Don't move "until you're ready?" As a parent, I'd be pretty upset if I raised a child who's self-centered enough to only look at moving out that way.
Yes yes, I know all you people who are advocating staying with Mom and Dad perpetually (ahem, until you're ready) have parents who tell you all the time they love having you around. Lol..
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
Fei said:
i'm pretty sure everybody here still living at home has parents who are cool with it. i mean very few these people are just sitting on their hands while their parents are pleading with them to move out.
i think those of you who are going on about how its selfish and whatnot don't really understand the factors in which what keeps one from moving out at the onset of adulthood
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"It's reasonable. My wife and I make over $150K/year and the house is in the low $400's and around $50K in savings and retirement funds. But the reality is that:
1) If you're renting, you really are perpetually in debt.
2) If you get a 30 year mortgage at age 25, you'll be 55 when all's said and done. Fifty-fucking-five. Think about that. Even a 15 year mortgage: you'll be 40 when you finally pay it off. Considering that I've been alive for a shorter amount of time than it will take to pay off my mortgage on the payment schedule, forgive me for thinking that it's almost like perpetuity.
3) Getting your own place accrues many peripheral costs beyond the cost of housing. Your own utilities, your own furniture, your own food, etc. I'm just saying, it's expensive.
The thing I regret the most about moving out is the weight of the responsibility; you have to make that mortgage or rent payment every month. It just kills your freedom in terms of say traveling or spending. If there are things in life you want to do or places you want to see, do it before you buy a house or rent a place.
BTW, I'm 26."
You realize that you can pay off your mortgage early right? Just because you owe say a $1000 you can pay more so it will be paid off earlier. For the money you make you can pay it off a nice chunk earlier if you want to instead of having to spend the money on other things.
1) If you're renting, you really are perpetually in debt.
2) If you get a 30 year mortgage at age 25, you'll be 55 when all's said and done. Fifty-fucking-five. Think about that. Even a 15 year mortgage: you'll be 40 when you finally pay it off. Considering that I've been alive for a shorter amount of time than it will take to pay off my mortgage on the payment schedule, forgive me for thinking that it's almost like perpetuity.
3) Getting your own place accrues many peripheral costs beyond the cost of housing. Your own utilities, your own furniture, your own food, etc. I'm just saying, it's expensive.
The thing I regret the most about moving out is the weight of the responsibility; you have to make that mortgage or rent payment every month. It just kills your freedom in terms of say traveling or spending. If there are things in life you want to do or places you want to see, do it before you buy a house or rent a place.
BTW, I'm 26."
You realize that you can pay off your mortgage early right? Just because you owe say a $1000 you can pay more so it will be paid off earlier. For the money you make you can pay it off a nice chunk earlier if you want to instead of having to spend the money on other things.
It won't be an easy adventure but if you believe that you can do something new with your life that isn't possible to achieve while living with your parents, do it. It's not necessarily a question of being independent but to live life differently than your actual ways. I deeply thanks my mom and dad for taking care of me all these years, but I knew that the way I was living life was inadequate. I use to put all my troubles on the shoulders of my family and others without me taking any responsibility for my own shitty action and then habits. I see clearly now that I am failing to take care of myself properly and that I am the one that will change things, not my mom, school or the government and others! Anyone can at the least support me but the alterations in my life all comes from your own effort.
-Note: Chirst do my writings is similar to do "cheer-up" books, even though I don't read those kind of books :lol
and yeah, living alone is a big financial stain... but hey, my family is already full of debt! Need to break the chain!
-Note: Chirst do my writings is similar to do "cheer-up" books, even though I don't read those kind of books :lol
and yeah, living alone is a big financial stain... but hey, my family is already full of debt! Need to break the chain!
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