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Heroes S3E7 "'Eris Quod Sum"

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BobFromPikeCreek said:
People flying all over the place, lighting, fire, ice powers and shit, and Nathan refuses to believe it's possible for his dad to still be alive.
Not to mention the fact that he was brought back to life once.
 
BrandNew said:
Well at least next week's smells of Company Man-esque themes.

No, it smells of any number of episodes that takes place +/- X months. Company Man was good because it focused on one character and one story arch, something the show would be wise to focus on in the future. Lost has a huge cast too, but the inherently character-focused episodes keep it from becoming the sprawling mess that Heroes has.
 
yes papa petrelli knows. he just doesnt care. if you notice he questioned sylar about peter surviving as if he already knew.
 
All I have to say about Heroes is..
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

No matter how bad or stupid it gets, it's still damn entertaining.
 
The show this season seems so sensitive to have SOMETHING HAPPEN at every turn that its this hectic schizo show where no character makes sense, because character is sacrificed for the next "TWIST"

On top of this, you have a writing crew that isn't very talented with a lot of trappings due to very powerful characters and its a recipe for stupid insanity

I mean, take that airplane scene. There's so much stupidity in that one scene that i don't even know where to begin. Enemies can go from hating each other to friends in a span of an episode

And suresh likes maya and was trying to help...by sticking her in a cocoon on a wall.. Yea and later he'll do some sweet talking *rolls eyes*

Do they even know where they're going between 2 episodes? I know they have no idea for the season, let alone the series. But they can't even have characters stay consistent in a damn episode!
 
Working on a full list of drinking game rules.

It's a goddamn shame Claire didn't cry this week. I would have hit a bingo.
 
there's nothing better than the taste of GAF's bitter tears and nonstop whining. It's part of this show rules so much. Maybe the biggest one :lol

Just complete and utter incapability to simply stop questioning and suspend disbelief. People don't have magic powers either, dudes. The more dudes that moan "I HATE THIS SHOW!!!! I'M NEVER WATCHING AGAIN!!!" the more responses the official threads seem to get. It's the unexplainable phenomena of GAF.
 
Yikes, I didn't think it was that bad, but I realize that these threads are now more about the fun of making fun of it than the actual show *backs out of thread*
 
Still some flaws - whats up with them changing basic characteristics of some of these people - but way waaaaaaaaaay better than season 2.

So much more entertaining.
And yahh!! more African guy. What actor is he? He's awesome.
 
Angry Grimace said:
Just complete and utter incapability to simply stop questioning and suspend disbelief.

Why do people keep using this? There is a limit to how far some people will suspend it. It all depends on the world the characters are created in. Sometimes this show pushes it in ways that aren't good at all. You shouldn't have to suspend shit when the characters act totally out of character and retarded for no reason other than it was convenient. :/
 
I actually thought this episode wasn't bad beside the terrible acting by Daphne in that one scene. Of course, you could always say it was purposeful as she was suppose to be acting in the show (Thats being too smart for the writers.)

I mean the only other major WTF moment, Peter not dying, they said specifically that something was behind that.
 
GitarooMan said:
Yikes, I didn't think it was that bad, but I realize that these threads are now more about the fun of making fun of it than the actual show *backs out of thread*

The people in this thread are crazy. Heroes fans go elsewhere. This place has just become a dumping ground. Take a look elsewhere, most people are enjoying it. Even when I get caught up, I will probably never post in these threads much for reactions. GAF is hoping for a train wreck, and, when it is everything but one, they will go into denial.

*leaves thread before anybody gets hostile*
 
Damn, it just dawned on me... with Maury dead, they pretty much removed Malcolm McDowell from the show again. I know, you can't keep a good actor down, but still... there go the suave hallucinations.
 
mosaic said:
Damn, it just dawned on me... with Maury dead, they pretty much removed Malcolm McDowell from the show again. I know, you can't keep a good actor down, but still... there go the suave hallucinations.

oh i'm sure maury is alive and did an illusion death like his son
 
gketter said:
oh i'm sure maury is alive and did an illusion death like his son
Or if he didn't, he will have a few episodes down the line to retcon the current episode. Yeah, why do I ever think any character is ever done in this show?

They need to bring in David Lopan
 
Angry Grimace said:
there's nothing better than the taste of GAF's bitter tears and nonstop whining. It's part of this show rules so much. Maybe the biggest one :lol

Just complete and utter incapability to simply stop questioning and suspend disbelief. People don't have magic powers either, dudes. The more dudes that moan "I HATE THIS SHOW!!!! I'M NEVER WATCHING AGAIN!!!" the more responses the official threads seem to get. It's the unexplainable phenomena of GAF.

Just shut up with this line of BS. Maybe you're retarded and forget what the show did 5 minutes earlier. I don't. Look, I love Chuck. Do you think for a second that show doesn't require suspension of disbelief? Of course it does. The entire concept is completely fucking absurd, and I still love it.

I know real people don't have magic powers, dude. I just wish the make believe ones in Heroes would use theirs when it matters, rather than only doing so to show off and then completely forgetting them because the writers can't figure out any other way to keep the story going.
 
I had a huge fucking grim in my face when I saw the bloody fist coming out of parkman's fat back, its like the guy came back from Africa just to get into lady quicksilver's pants, and where is the kid he and mohinder where raising?

and I love how peter just walked into the main villain's HQ haven't this people heard of security guards? the Haitian can just walk in and beat the living shit out of big boss.
 
diunxx said:
I had a huge fucking grim in my face when I saw the bloody fist coming out of parkman's fat back, its like the guy came back from Africa just to get into lady quicksilver's pants, and where is the kid he and mohinder where raising?

They brushed her off at the start of the season by saying they put her on a flight to some place.
 
I don't know, I actually enjoyed this episode a lot. This season started off pretty badly but it's getting better and better. Once you adjust your mindset that sometimes people "forget" to use abilities and there are some plot holes, it's pretty enjoyable. I mean come on, Matt can't be reading people's minds 24/7, and people like Peter and Arthur have so many abilities now they probably can't keep track. Also, apparently Hiro doesn't want to go back in time anymore because he's afraid of what changes could take place. It's the writers' way of nerfing his ability and it's plausible, so stop bitching about "why doesn't Hiro just go back in time and fix this."

The big positives of this season are: awesome villain, nerfing Hiro (kinda) and nerfing Peter, good Sylar, and the show is still pretty unpredictable at times with wacky plot. I mean come on, Daddy Parkman bites the dust who saw that one coming.

The big negatives seem to be: character development has kinda gone to hell, which kinda sucks but not a dealbreaker for me, besides it's kinda interesting (like good Sylar), and the ordinary lives of these people seem to have vanished, which makes Peter and Clair more unlikable now.

The plot so far though is definitely better than I expected after the first few episodes. Big Boss claims he doesn't want to give people abilities, so what's up? Is he lying or is someone else behind this? What is Sylar going to do? How will Peter regain some powers? What's wrong with the Pinehurst formula? It keeps me curious which is what made Season 1 so great. And let's not pretend season 1 wasn't full of plot holes either.

Some "plot holes" I observed:

Why did Arthur kill Daddy Parkman? If he didn't intend on killing Matt why did he tell Daddy Parkman he would and then kill him for objecting? (maybe he just wanted him out of the picture)

Why didn't Matt discover Daphne's intentions with his ability? (probably trusts her too much and he doesn't use his ability 24/7)

Why doesn't Arthur read Sylar's mind to find out he helped Peter? (maybe he didn't bother to, or he already knows)

Why did Clair and Elle go on an airplane if Elle is unstable? (car probably would take too long and they didn't know what Elle would do, so that might have been the only option)

Anyway, the show isn't going to spend the hour explaining every possible plot hole (which is a good thing) so just accept that there's probably a good explanation (or not, does it really matter?). I thought about stop watching the show earlier in the season but it's actually getting pretty good and I can't believe I have to wait 2 weeks to see the next one. :(

(prepares flame shield for not hating on Heroes)
 
gketter said:
The show this season seems so sensitive to have SOMETHING HAPPEN at every turn that its this hectic schizo show where no character makes sense, because character is sacrificed for the next "TWIST"

On top of this, you have a writing crew that isn't very talented with a lot of trappings due to very powerful characters and its a recipe for stupid insanity

I mean, take that airplane scene. There's so much stupidity in that one scene that i don't even know where to begin. Enemies can go from hating each other to friends in a span of an episode

And suresh likes maya and was trying to help...by sticking her in a cocoon on a wall.. Yea and later he'll do some sweet talking *rolls eyes*

Do they even know where they're going between 2 episodes? I know they have no idea for the season, let alone the series. But they can't even have characters stay consistent in a damn episode!
I'm enjoying the season so far, but I agree with you. Everything's all over the place.
 
vicissitudes said:
Why did Arthur kill Daddy Parkman? If he didn't intend on killing Matt why did he tell Daddy Parkman he would and then kill him for objecting? (maybe he just wanted him out of the picture)

Cause he's EVIL MANNNN.

Why didn't Matt discover Daphne's intentions with his ability? (probably trusts her too much and he doesn't use his ability 24/7)

Yeah, pretty much. I don't see that as a plot hole. Matt's a nice guy. He learned to control his powers and only uses it when he needs to.

Why doesn't Arthur read Sylar's mind to find out he helped Peter? (maybe he didn't bother to, or he already knows)

I think they hinted at him already knowing, but I don't think Authur cares all that much.

Why did Clair and Elle go on an airplane if Elle is unstable?

Because Claire is fucking stupid.
 
They need to introduce a character who has the ability to make everyone in the world stupid. That would seal up many of the plot holes.
 
Angry Grimace said:
there's nothing better than the taste of GAF's bitter tears and nonstop whining. It's part of this show rules so much. Maybe the biggest one :lol

Just complete and utter incapability to simply stop questioning and suspend disbelief. People don't have magic powers either, dudes. The more dudes that moan "I HATE THIS SHOW!!!! I'M NEVER WATCHING AGAIN!!!" the more responses the official threads seem to get. It's the unexplainable phenomena of GAF.

:lol I completely agree, after watching the show & coming here & hearing the countless & endless whining. It's just as entertaining as the show.

Seriously, about the plane. Who gives a shit. How about they hiked it on foot half way across the country. OR maybe took a car, because electric power would never affect vehicle or anything like that.
 
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