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Hi-res Gears of War video
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That cinematic was embarassingly bad. Nobody's asking for them to recite lines from Shakespeare, but they also don't need to come across as cavemen and/or excited twelve year olds. "Are you THE Marcus Phoenix ... blah blah blah" "Yeah" "Awesome!"
Graphics are stupendous though. This is the first game I've seen (that is close to coming out anyway) that actually LOOKS next gen to me.
Graphics are stupendous though. This is the first game I've seen (that is close to coming out anyway) that actually LOOKS next gen to me.
AgentOtaku
Member
it was good for the most part, though I did groan when he said something like "good....lets kick some ass!" with overly tired Lance Henrikson impersonation
I can dig on the machoness, but don't overdue it ya know?
...but yeah, I'm not basing my entire opinion on just one cinematic
I can dig on the machoness, but don't overdue it ya know?
...but yeah, I'm not basing my entire opinion on just one cinematic
Sathsquatch
Member
I'm a huge supporter of GOW and even I thought the cinema was stupid, but it looked amazing. GOW's graphics are unmatched right now. I really think that the new video of the first level is the best in-game footage of any console game that I have ever seen. Too bad it looks like its being played on easy in that video.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
shpankey said:
Not to be an asshole of the thread but I'm just not seeing "best graphics I've ever seen on anything anywhere" in that video.
Looks great, but you know....online will more than likely be killer though.
Tieno
Member
Here are some character bio's so you can try put some stuff into context, as far as that's possible.
Marcus Fenix
Son of the famed military scientist Adam Fenix, Marcus established a reputation as a brilliant soldier during the Pendulum Wars, earning numerous field promotions and decorations. He was on a fast track to an outstanding military career until the war with the Locust Horde. When the Horde breached Jacinto Plateau's defenses, Marcus defied orders to save his father, who was under siege at East Barricade Academy. He was too late. Marcus was charged with dereliction of duty and was sentenced to 40 years in Jacinto Maximum Security Penitentiary. Four years into his sentence, the Horde overtook the penitentiary but Marcus was rescued by his best friend Dominic Santiago, so that he could rejoin the fight against the unstoppable Locust Horde.
Dominic Santiago
Dom is a vocal, colorful and yet practical soldier. He's loyal to a fault, especially with his friends, and has no patience for those that think of themselves first. Dominic has always believed in his country and his leaders, but his faith has been slipping in the face of this endless war. Dom lost his wife in the Emergence Day cataclysm. For him, the fight against the Horde is deeply personal. By testifying in Marcus' defense, Dom prevented an execution, but was forced to accept the heavy judgment the military tribunal handed down to his childhood friend. Never forgetting, Dom seized his first opportunity to save Marcus' life, and convinced Lieutenant Minh Young Kim to enlist Marcus into his squad.
Minh Young Kim
Lieutenant Kim is a proud, dedicated and ambitious soldier, a by-the-books believer in all things COG. To Kim, the Coalition of Ordered Governments is humanity's only hope for survival and feels that it is an honor and privilege to serve as a Gear. Kim moved quickly through the ranks, but after a run of bad luck he was left leading the misfits of Delta Squad. Feeling undervalued and overlooked, Kim has something to prove. Only the strength of Dom's faith -- and the scarcity of experienced soldiers - convinced Kim to consider bringing former prisoner Fenix into his squad.
Augustus Cole
Cole, aka "The Cole Train", is an adrenaline junkie and former professional thrashball player. He craves action, and prefers to take the most direct path to the Locust Horde in any situation. What he lacks in finesse, he makes up for in raw energy. Along with his child-like enthusiasm and charm, Cole is supremely confident in his own abilities to overcome anything, regardless of the oddsand he hasn't been proven wrong yet. Cole and Damon Baird have served together for years, and he treats Baird as he would an older brother with a younger brother's license to torment.
Damon Baird
Despite being a reluctant and cynical soldier, Baird excels at the military life. Baird is perfectly capable of being a successful officer, but has never been promoted due to his poor attitude, short temper and his unwillingness to take on any responsibility. Baird's greatest strength is his intelligence. He not only fights the Locust, but he studies and observes them as well. He's the closest the COG have to an expert, and when Baird tells his comrades to be quiet and listen, they know it is in their best interest to do exactly that. Baird's only motivation is self preservation. He's willing to do whatever it takes to get through the war alive -- even march along side a troublemaker like Fenix.
Source: http://forums.xbox.com/5624476/ShowPost.aspx
Marcus Fenix
Son of the famed military scientist Adam Fenix, Marcus established a reputation as a brilliant soldier during the Pendulum Wars, earning numerous field promotions and decorations. He was on a fast track to an outstanding military career until the war with the Locust Horde. When the Horde breached Jacinto Plateau's defenses, Marcus defied orders to save his father, who was under siege at East Barricade Academy. He was too late. Marcus was charged with dereliction of duty and was sentenced to 40 years in Jacinto Maximum Security Penitentiary. Four years into his sentence, the Horde overtook the penitentiary but Marcus was rescued by his best friend Dominic Santiago, so that he could rejoin the fight against the unstoppable Locust Horde.
Dominic Santiago
Dom is a vocal, colorful and yet practical soldier. He's loyal to a fault, especially with his friends, and has no patience for those that think of themselves first. Dominic has always believed in his country and his leaders, but his faith has been slipping in the face of this endless war. Dom lost his wife in the Emergence Day cataclysm. For him, the fight against the Horde is deeply personal. By testifying in Marcus' defense, Dom prevented an execution, but was forced to accept the heavy judgment the military tribunal handed down to his childhood friend. Never forgetting, Dom seized his first opportunity to save Marcus' life, and convinced Lieutenant Minh Young Kim to enlist Marcus into his squad.
Minh Young Kim
Lieutenant Kim is a proud, dedicated and ambitious soldier, a by-the-books believer in all things COG. To Kim, the Coalition of Ordered Governments is humanity's only hope for survival and feels that it is an honor and privilege to serve as a Gear. Kim moved quickly through the ranks, but after a run of bad luck he was left leading the misfits of Delta Squad. Feeling undervalued and overlooked, Kim has something to prove. Only the strength of Dom's faith -- and the scarcity of experienced soldiers - convinced Kim to consider bringing former prisoner Fenix into his squad.
Augustus Cole
Cole, aka "The Cole Train", is an adrenaline junkie and former professional thrashball player. He craves action, and prefers to take the most direct path to the Locust Horde in any situation. What he lacks in finesse, he makes up for in raw energy. Along with his child-like enthusiasm and charm, Cole is supremely confident in his own abilities to overcome anything, regardless of the oddsand he hasn't been proven wrong yet. Cole and Damon Baird have served together for years, and he treats Baird as he would an older brother with a younger brother's license to torment.
Damon Baird
Despite being a reluctant and cynical soldier, Baird excels at the military life. Baird is perfectly capable of being a successful officer, but has never been promoted due to his poor attitude, short temper and his unwillingness to take on any responsibility. Baird's greatest strength is his intelligence. He not only fights the Locust, but he studies and observes them as well. He's the closest the COG have to an expert, and when Baird tells his comrades to be quiet and listen, they know it is in their best interest to do exactly that. Baird's only motivation is self preservation. He's willing to do whatever it takes to get through the war alive -- even march along side a troublemaker like Fenix.
Source: http://forums.xbox.com/5624476/ShowPost.aspx
Francias Castiglione
Banned
The cutscene looked like something from a war movie, the guy JUST got out of prison and into a battle so I would hardly expect him to be in a chatty mood. I would also expect they talk more when they are in relative safety instead of being right in the middle of the shit.
Francias Castiglione
Banned
NinSoX said:Snake talks a lot in the battlefield
More like Snake gets talked at a lot in the battlefield! :lol
buckfutter
Member
Francias Castiglione said:
It's not the amount of dialogue, it's the quality of it. It's paint-by-numbers war movie, and despite the over-the-top nature of it all there's almost no sense of it being tongue in cheek.
But I'll concede it's unfair to comment on the story from a single cutscene. Still, given the concept of the game and what we've seen so far, I'm not expecting anything more than a few laughable cinematics wedged into a fun game.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
NinSoX said:Snake talks a lot in the battlefield
Luckily for him the war stops everytime he needs to have a 45 minute discussion.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Razoric said:
Gaf is doing everything they can to troll this game. I imagine next there will be complaints about the armor not being polished enough or the Locusts looking too ugly.
Jesse Ventura telling a bunch of dudes he's a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. "It's a war game" is no sort of excuse for bad or boring dialogue. Shit, "It's a <<whatever>> game" is no excuse. Bad dialogue sucks in movies, it sucks in TV shows, and it sucks in videogames, and nobody gets a free pass.Razoric said:
AgentOtaku
Member
Draft said:
:lol
....but thats an AWESOME LINE!
shpankey
not an idiot
that doesn't make you an asshole at all. that's just your opinion. mine is that it is the best i've ever seen, in my opinion. see how that works?mckmas8808 said:
it's all good.
as far as story and voice acting, am i the only one who skips all that shit anyhow? for the most part, every videogame out there pales in comparison to a good book or movie and are laughable. skip that shit, I aint here to watch some lame ass story. i'm here to play a game. i actually hate the story in Metal Gear Solid's and Final Fantasy's and feel they're just long, convoluted and ridiculously lame.
but for anyone expecting some kind of great story and acting in an all out pure action game like GoW, holy shit, why? ::waves hand, this isn't the game you're looking for::
buckfutter
Member
AgentOtaku said:
That was his point. There's a difference between bad, boring dialogue and great dialogue - no matter the genre. And we shouldn't accept crappy plotting just because we're used to it.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Draft said:
Do I have to repeat myself until my fingers snap like twigs and get stuck in between the keys?
This is less than 10 minutes of actual game footage. I'm sure when the Locusts stop shooting at everyone they'll start comparing dick sizes.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Draft said:
::throws X360 out the window::
I give up.
Tieno
Member
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/747/747891/vids_1.html
IGN has the same cut-scene and ingame footage on, but it's not as saturated and dark as the gamevideos one. Still not optimal quality, but it's the best thing out there.
IGN has the same cut-scene and ingame footage on, but it's not as saturated and dark as the gamevideos one. Still not optimal quality, but it's the best thing out there.
Different situations. The Predator guys were all gun-ho going into battle, a bunch of friends used to kicking ass with ease. Gears of War, the guys have been getting their ass kicked for years. Their planet is wiped out. They are losing, and are going into a desperate battle. The main character just got busted out of prison, where he got to stew for four years over the fact that he wasn't able to save his father from being killed by the Locusts.Draft said:
They're not chatty. Marcus is shown lost in thought, looking away from the others most of the time. He's got a lot on his mind. It's not "yippe-kai-yay mother****er", it's more like, "we're ****ed and probably going to die." The dialogue was entirely appropriate for that situation. Was it brilliant? No. But it's perfectly servicable and gets the job done. In other words, that's a bad comparison.
storybook77
Member
Razoric said:
This same line could be said of the majority of the threads here lately. It's kinda sad that people can't actually discuss a game that they are interested in without people just posting that they hate the game and don't understand why anyone else likes it, etc.
If I'm not interested in a game or a particular topic, guess what, I don't feel the need to post about it. Just move along if you already have your mind made up to hate a game.
shpankey
not an idiot
I'm just curious, do you guys throw this kind of tantrum about story and dialog and voice acting when you play tetris? or mario? or a sports game? or just about every other game out there?
seriously, this is a gratuitously violent action game that is meant to be hella fun to play. skip the ****ing dialog, like every other game and don't worry about it. good stories in videogames is a f'n contradiction anyhow. there's just simply no such thing. hell, game's like Ico they don't even say a word hardly, yet everyone (including me) loves that. game's like Metal Gear have such ridiculously over the top stories that sound like an 8 year old came up with the plot that it's sometimes just painful to watch. just skip the cutscenes and go have some fun.
seriously, this is a gratuitously violent action game that is meant to be hella fun to play. skip the ****ing dialog, like every other game and don't worry about it. good stories in videogames is a f'n contradiction anyhow. there's just simply no such thing. hell, game's like Ico they don't even say a word hardly, yet everyone (including me) loves that. game's like Metal Gear have such ridiculously over the top stories that sound like an 8 year old came up with the plot that it's sometimes just painful to watch. just skip the cutscenes and go have some fun.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
For those criticizing the war dialog in this game, would you prefer, "Fighting Locusts is hard work. But freedom is on the march. We have a hard job to do and that makes the job we have to do....hard work. But freedom isn't cheap and it costs a lot to spread freedom and democracy. So, we need to stay the course and fight. And if you don't fight the locusts, well then you are just looking to cut and run."
Tough words, indeed.
Tough words, indeed.
AgentOtaku
Member
DenogginizerOS said:
...well I'm pumped!
First off, what tantrum are you talking about? I don't see anyone saying anything worse than "The dialogue sucks." Nobody refused to buy the game because of it yet.shpankey said:
And no, I don't complain about story and voice acting when I play Tetris, Mario, or a sports game, because none of those games are supposed to be story-driven epic adventures. Gears of War seems to be shooting a little higher than "Shine Get!".
And I, for one, happen to love a well-written story for a game. The story behind MGS3 made it my favorite game last year. The story in Eternal Darkness was wonderful and kept me immersed the whole time. It even helped me look past a lot of the shitty gameplay elements. And nobody is saying the story to GoW is going to be crap. At most, we're just saying this one cut scene is crap.
buckfutter
Member
shpankey said:
Oh dear.
buckfutter
Member
shpankey said:
Colour me surprised.
shpankey
not an idiot
GhaleonEB, well, i'm sorry... but that's just my opinion. it is so rare to get truely a good story in a videogame that I feel I can say that with confidence. maybe i put it too blunt, but hey... it's what I think.
since when is GoW supposed to be a "story-driven epic adventure"? :lolHaleon said:
i wouldn't color you anything.buckfutter said:
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
Haleon said:
Good lord.
It looks like they've got an awful lot of background information on the war, the characters, and the enemies. If they didn't care about the story, they probably wouldn't have bothered creating a world for it.shpankey said:
I don't even know why the hell I'm arguing this. I'm getting Gears of War anyway. I just don't think it's too much to ask not to hire Charles Bronson's writing team.
buckfutter
Member
shpankey said:
Since it chose to have an overwrought cutscene, and marketers that pimped the fact that Eric Nylund was penning the script. Or when they released backstorys for all the characters. Or when Cliffy does interviews about this very issue.
Oh, and I love how your post contradicts itself. No games have a good story, yet everyone loves Ico. Here's a hint, genius, story and dialogue are related, not the exact same thing.
shpankey
not an idiot
if you honestly think GoW is supposed to be a story-driven epic adventure, you deserve what you get. which will be an action game. if you thought you were going to get a Zelda, then I have no idea what to say to that. :lolbuckfutter said:
and my post has no contradiction.
you are missing the point. I'm not telling anyone how to write their dialogue, I was just pointing out an example of memorable, well written war movie dialogue, and I tried to be a bit more specific by using a scene of guys getting choppered into combat.GhaleonEB said:
The dialogue in that cutscene was pretty dumb. It's not that big a deal because 99% of dialogue in console games is terrible. The only exception that immediately springs to mind is the Legacy of Kain games. Basically the only game devs writing actual competent dialogue are western RPG houses, and most of that's on the PC.
I don't really care too much because a game like GoW is largely seperated from the storyline- it's there for context and to justify the art style, not complement the actual game design. RE4 had a terrible story with awful dialogue too, and it was pretty much the greatest game ever made. GoW could easily go the same route, it just means I'll be skipping the cutscenes.