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Nice edit lol.
Count Dookkake
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Thanks. I thought it was funnier and less likely to induce butt-hurt by confusion.
Great post. Thank you so much.
Monocle
Member
Bravo.
It would be more like a roach using a shotgun on itself, considering all the girl originally asked was the unconstitutional sign be taken off of a publicly funded wall. They felt the need to fight against their glaringly apparent violation of the establishment clause, and waste thousands of tax dollars in the process.
VGChampion
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What a stupid thing. Some people take everything way too seriously. I'm a Christian but I'm not devout or anything. Haven't been to church in years. If there are posters you don't believe in, just move on. If I saw another religions poster I wouldn't care one bit. If I saw a poster from atheists I would still move on.
Yeah pretty poor showing for gaf.
Claiming that her whining was pointless only makes their own whining look worse.
happyfunball
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Public school + Constitution = No posters advocating/establishing any religion.
And really an atheist poster? A blank poster doesn't take much tolerance to walk past.
beelzebozo
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you just completely do not get it. if you insert this into an elementary school, the message you're conveying is that the school, a fundamental part of the child's experience, is connected to the concepts of christianity. there is no split between these things. it's not just a sign.
if a school hung this on the wall, it's not enough to say, "oh, girls who disagree with this should just move on." by hanging it on the wall period, the school is promoting the ideas contained on the poster, by virtue of the fact that it was deemed worthy of hanging on the wall, because there are a number of posters that they chose NOT to hang on the wall (rosie the riveter, madeleine albright, or whomever). kids, or people in general, are not able to separate themselves from the effects of these tacit endorsements.
it is a big deal. it's right that the sign was removed.
This might just be the 50th time someone has made this exact comment in this thread. As Opiate mentioned ad nauseum, if it isn't a big deal to keep up, surely it cannot be a big deal to remove it.
You don't.
It was against the law and we often tell kids to stand up for what they believe in. I guess that privilege only belongs to believers.
GTP_Daverytimes
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It is relevant simply because the offended wasn't actually offended, she was offended that her friend was offended which is quite petty (in this case).
I stand by my comment but I'm also a cynical bastard who thinks most people are full of shit. That being said, I never said she was wrong, nor do I endorse her being harassed or threatened. I think people should let it go (the removal of the mural) and go on about their business.
Which is also...wait for it!...irrelevant.
GTP_Daverytimes
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If i doesn't pertain to your train of thought of course it is irrelevant.
Angry Fork
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Bravo for putting the work into this. Great post.
The_Darkest_Red
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You know what's really a poor showing for GAF? Every single thread I've ever been in with a topic even slightly pertaining to religion.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
person angry at another turns that person in for murder. defendant contends, "he just turned me in because he was bitter about me not mowing my lawn!"
court dismisses case, as the reasons defendant was turned in are petty.
Mortrialus
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Nope.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Every link you provided is true but wtf is the quoted? wait a bit for me. I will like to see the response in here for the post that is coming.
Mortrialus
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Gaf has a lot of atheists.
You're not getting it.
"Don't like it, don't look at it" is a logical fallacy called a false dilemma. It is as ignorant as saying, "America: Love it or leave it."
Now I have heard it all. Sticking up for your friend is now pathetic.
Count Dookkake
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Um, try reading that sentence again.
He is saying that GAF is tolerant to atheists in comparison to other places.
In other words, your efforts to compile some list of some of us slagging theists will be a complete waste. Regarding that I will note, yet again, a thread about an atheist being bothered, harassed, harmed, etc has become a haven for the religious majority to cry persecution.
BattleMonkey
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That sign will no longer harm our childrens.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Ah, i get it now.
EDIT: You know am getting sick and tired of hearing people say "Crying persecution", if saying the truth about how atheist gaf is very intolerable is crying persecution then....... why bother though, you being an atheist of-course you will overlook the outright harassment of some of the atheists towards theists on gaf. If i comprised a list similar to his what would your reaction be, you more than likely will be in that list.
PSYGN
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Sounds like the Internet to me.
Not sure if serious or being sarcastic.
Examples of being intolerant? I mean, not actual posts, don't bother, but what kind of posts or statements you'd judge as intolerant to christians?
Count Dookkake
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Or violate the Constitution, thank god.
You could say thank you.
Anyway we're getting sick of having to explain things like the law or what a theory is and things like that.
Shit happens.
GTP_Daverytimes
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You afraid i will bombard you with such posts?
Atheists are, thanks to years of social conditioning and political propaganda, seen very negatively in the public spotlight, i.e. politics.
To say otherwise is delusional or a flat out lie.
While there are a lot of obnoxious atheists on the internet, that's really a relatively new phenomenon and, quite frankly, they have zero impact at all on the real world.
I use politics as the best example. An outspoken Christian will get votes. An outspoken atheist will likely be assassinated, both politically and literally. Note that this par for the course for any non-Christian. If we reel back the clock a bit, there were people who didn't like the idea of a CATHOLIC president. An openly Muslim politician would be...dividing. An openly Buddhist politician would be ignored. An openly non-religious politician wouldn't make it past the primaries as someone will inevitably play the "Well clearly he has no morals" card.
Frankly, there will likely be a religious gay president before an (openly) atheist president.
Note that I say outspoken/openly when referring to atheists. I have no doubt that several of our politicians don't believe at all that God guides them, but aren't stupid enough to SAY that out loud.
Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek?
I just meant I don't necessarily need a list of posts, a simple summary or general idea would suffice, trying to make it easier for you, y'know. But please go for it if you care for it.
Count Dookkake
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No, he's trying to save you some time and effort. Just explain what an intolerant post would contain.
EDIT- Beaten, but yeah.
David Incorporated Esq.
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GAF isn't as bad as some places but yes, there is a fair bit of "lol space-wizard" thrown around every so often. I think that's an effect of anonymity plus the inability to voice those beliefs outside the internet.
I've been in situations (back when I was living in Alabama) where I would have been socially ostracized if I had let it be known that I was an atheist. And I don't mean circles of friends or something, I mean at work. I was legitimately worried that I would be put in a situation where I would have to resign from my company because other people would refuse to work with me.
There were some ladies in that office who would send out office-wide chain emails explicitly mocking non-Christians. I had to request several times to be taken off the contact list for those emails and only stopped receiving them when I threatened to take the issue to HR.
So you should try to excuse atheists for being all mean and nasty on the internet; for some it's the only safe place to express themselves.
I lift mine up to let out a silent fart. Does that count?
Exactly. And this is exactly why atheists must fight and stand up to religion, even in minor situations like this. There's no time and room in America for atheists to idly stand by and be shunned like we have been. It's time for change.
The_Darkest_Red
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That's what's so disappointing about it. I've always respected GAF for being a place that has an overall level of maturity that is much higher than the rest of the internet. These threads seem like the exception to that.
Mortrialus
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I wouldn't be snarking if I were included in one of the most shaming posts I've ever seen on this thread like you are.
I couldn't give a shit what any of you think of me, but thanks for the tip.
Seriously? You must have some real blinders on.
Read any thread about: Sex, penis size, circumcision, whether an actress is hot, whether an actress is fat, actresses in general, ah hell, WOMEN in general, and you'll see the floodgates open to a sea of insecure, bitter, undersexed anger and immaturity.
I mean heck, here's a great example of embarrassing immature behavior:
Can't you just HEAR the 15 year old puberty-rage FUCK YOU DAD voice?
Mortrialus
Banned
Then why bother joining a forum and present your viewpoints for other people to observe and judge? What an asinine and frankly stupid thing to say, kind of like your previous post in this thread.
Count Dookkake
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More of that celebrated Christian humility.
The_Darkest_Red
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I don't spend a lot of time in OT but there hasn't been a lot of good gaming news lately. I guess I'm just not used to it. That and I avoid threads with any of the topics you mentioned or anything similar.
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