Your obsession with thinking people use who they vote for governor to determine who they vote for President is baffling and has no basis in logic. At all.
I mean New York?!?!
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Your obsession with thinking people use who they vote for governor to determine who they vote for President is baffling and has no basis in logic. At all.
I mean New York?!?!
Vestal
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Oh you mean the year that the Supreme Court handed W the election? Or you mean the year that for the first time since 1888 a President was handed an election while getting trounced in the Popular vote?
LyleLanley
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Hey, you never know. It's not like we had a republican governor from Massachusetts run for president and lose.
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lol, NY voting republican.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
wow hear that james, you could probably be almost a millionaire in just 18 months time, with no risk!
KuwabaraTheMan
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I especially like the idea that voting for Republican governors means that the state will go red in the Presidential election, but Democratic governors means that the well has been poisoned against Democrats.
Doc Holliday
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Has Cuomo's favoribility ever been below 50 percent? What are you basing this on?
jamesinclair
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This isn't my first rodeo. The October surprise means there's always a risk.
Personally, I'm registered to vote in three blue states and I won't be voting for Hilary in any of them.
So this is just you being butthurt about Hillary?
Oh and you can't be registered to vote in 3 states at the same time, what in the world are you talking about.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I'm registered to vote in 4 states and will be voting for Hilary in all of them!
Take that!
Take that!
Team Alucard
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lol, the republicans are so fucking scared of Hilldawg. They're already on the attack.
jamesinclair
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Yes you can, when you move you register in your new state but no one asks you to cancel your old registration.
I did a project in NJ where I found that the number of registered voters in dozens of new jersey municipalities is greater than their current population.
In fact the legality behind voting in multiple states is murky.
That is, voting for president in one state but mayor in another. You're not double voting.
Poodlestrike
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Warren isn't a candidate.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
It's like a horror movie trailer. Can't wait for the hour long version.
Gambit 1138
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When bush got elected Cheney had to change his residency to another state (I think Wyoming) because of the state rule. Technically he cheated and wasn't even supposed to be VP according to the law
How about we talk about a real map?
You know what makes this map special? It's based off actual real-world popular vote for the executive position in the most recent elections.
Not the house, which no one gives a shit about. Not the senate with their confusing election cycle, but the real governing position people actually care to pay attention to.
Remember the Obamacare lies?
Remember governemnt shut down?
Remember tax cuts for prosperity?
Remember zero investment in infrastructure?
Remember continued obstruction?
Remember bat shit crazy?
Remember hating gay people?
Remember killing immigration reform?
Remember shifting demographics?
Remember how all that was going to kill the GOP - forever?
And then remember what actually happened during the last election?
See map above.
The Democrats couldn't get beat Governor Voldemort - twice.
The Democrats put up Martha Choakley - twice.
The Democrats lost fucking Maryland and Illinois.
And some of you expect chicken-hawk Clinton to stroll into office?
Please.
Karl Rove? Is that you?
I haven't been the biggest Hillary fan, but I'll gladly support her if she's the nominee. I'd like to at least see some competition in the primary, but I'm pretty sure that everyone else will step aside and let her glide to the party's nomination.
I don't think we'll necessarily see Obama 2012-level electoral college results, but anyone who thinks that the GOP is going to pull every swing state (a requirement to get the 270+ votes needed) is delusional. It's hard to catch up when one party has 240-ish guaranteed electoral votes before campaigning even begins.
As an Illinois resident, Presidential elections tend to get a lot of the people voting in comparison to local elections. After all the corruption and such, most people I know simply vote for the one who isn't proven corrupt or have given up entirely. Especially in the blue areas around Chicago.
Z_Y
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Before GWB....WV was usually blue. Only went red twice between 1960 and 2000. I love my state but we have some brainwashed people here. I blame FoxNews. I'd love to see us go back to blue but it will be tough for Hillary to get us there. Now if Bill could run again....
Grover Cleveland
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Nah can't be.
His electoral map makes Permanent Republican Majority look sound and logical.
la flama blanca
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KuwabaraTheMan
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Don't expect any real change with Hilary. She's still on the right, and has some pretty awful views on foreign policy, but she's better than who the Republicans will run out, and any real change is impossible with the current setup.
metalslimer
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I used to think jamesinclair was sane....NY voting R....er....wat.....I can't...
sometimes i game
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I can't wait to watch the debates this time.
This run is going to be as interesting as the Palin run, but for the actually right reasons.
This run is going to be as interesting as the Palin run, but for the actually right reasons.
Ignatz Mouse
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IL went for a R Governor because the incumbent was very unpopular and viewed as incompetent. IL would have a D governor if there had been no incumbent record of poor management.
Mr_Antimatter
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Omaba was indeed the incumbent, who won in landslides twice.
2000? when a president got handed the office by court action, despite losing the popular vote?
8 years of peace of prosperity? You mean economic collapse, two wars, torture, terrorist attacks killing thousands stateside, etc? I think you are thinking on 2009-present, with the peace and prosperity stuff. This is despite extreme obstruction from the GOP to try to block pretty much everything with historic levels of filibustering.
Hillary isn't Al Gore, she's polling much better. This is why the GOP is so scared of her, they have no one in the running who can beat her, even before her campaign really gets started.
Z_Y
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It would be interesting. Most WVians aren't the gun-toting, bible-thumpers that most people associate with the stereotypical southerner. I mean...we have that for sure but I think perceived attacks on our livelihood are paramount above all else. I think a minority lesbian could win here if she was pro-coal, pro-union.
Bel Marduk
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She's always been very much to the right on foreign policy and her tenure on the corporate board of Wal Mart makes me seriously doubt any of her positions on economic policies as well.
I don't trust her at all and plan to support whoever might have the slightest chance to beat her in the primary. Its been done before, and however unlikely, could be done again.
Freedom = $1.05
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how are you guys falling for such an obvious troll? you folks have almost 2 years to get your game on, this is just the beginning. Wait till the chicken littles and concern trolls start lining up.
HalfBakedProphet
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Again, why not blame the Florida Democrats which overwhelming voted Bush over Nader by hundreds of thousands of votes? Or the seven other candidates outside of Bush/Gore/Nader in Florida that all received over 500 votes each (I'll answer that for you. Nader is singled out because he was the biggest of the third party fish)? Or the independents which actually made up the majority of the Nader vote in Florida? Or the millions of Democrats that stayed home? Or the 50 million Americans that voted Bush?
Folks who take aim at the democratic Nader voters in 2000 over the myriad of other factors are transparent, whether they realize it or not. They're doing exactly what both the Republicans and Democrats (and the corporations which fund them) what them to do; defend and protect the two party system. They don't want outside forces rocking the boat and playing by different rules. Theyve further entrenched since the 1992 election when Ross Perot took potshots at both on a national stage and got almost 19% of the popular vote. Perot wasn't allowed back for the debates in 1996. Nader and Buchanan werent allowed in for 2000 for the same reason; they didn't meet the Commission on Presidential Debates (you can see the list of banks and large corporations which have sponsored the commission throughout the years here) criteria of needing to poll over 15% nationally to attend. Third parties are now viewed as "harmful" and wasted votes. all according to keikaku
benjipwns
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Illinois and many "blue" states have had a good number of Republican Governors in recent decades. State issues that are relevant can be very different from federal ones that are relevant in the state.
Of course, in the case of Illinois they wind up in prison no matter what their party.
Just to add on, the CPD is jointly owned by the Republican and Democratic Parties. They established the 15% rule in 2000 to prevent anyone else from ever getting in*. They only let Perot in because he was polling at 25+% and buying his own airtime, he wasn't in the 1996 debates.
Some sponsors pulled out in 2012 for not including more candidates:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media...s-presidential-debate-sponsorship-137053.html
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...-from-debates-over-exclusion-of-gary-johnson-
*And if the primary debates in 2008 and 2012, and Virginia debates in 2013/2014 along with other states, are any indication even if the parties set a rule that says "get 5% in five polls" and you get 9% in five polls, the rules suddenly will say you have to get 10% in six polls.
NYCmetsfan
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Voter Fraud!
NYCmetsfan
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no its not, you are only supposed to be registered in one state, your primary residency. And you can't vote twice in one day because your not voting for the same thing.
You have to be a troll character
I remember him ranting, in my lurking days, about copper and how obama was literally going to plunge us in to darkness. I don't know how much is an act
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45936007&postcount=2052
jamesinclair
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Key word.
Theres no system in place to check or to help people unregister.
Id like to see the law youre referring to?
I was incorrect about the effect of the new law on copper prices. That doesnt mean copper theft isnt a real and serious issue.
GloriousBagel
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The crazies are already bringing up Benghazi... if that's all they can talk about, Hillary will breeze through this election.
NYCmetsfan
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I don't have a statue book but this is voter fraud
http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/workflow_staging/Page/57.PDF
BobTheFork
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They've been bringing it up constantly. If they wanted people to care about this, they shouldn't have tried to 'nail her to the wall' so to speak for two years already. Didn't they have a commission that said there was no major failure in this case?
It already didn't stick and now it's old. I can't imagine what they think they can accomplish.
Hell the email security bring up more legitimate concern now then Benghazi does.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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I believe he is referring to Bill's administration, and how even after two solid and successful terms we up with Bush anyway.
Besides that though, NY going R? Give me a break.
EatinOlives
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Republicans are probably betting that they don't "need" to convince people if they can just appeal to their emotion.
Bubblicious
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Even Karl Rove's predictions were more sane than that map! And NY voting R? jamesinclair definitely trolling!
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