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Fbh
Member
Game still looks great but I'll take that release window with a grain of salt.
It's just based on MS saying all the games from their showing will release within 12 months.
But games get delayed all the time even when they have previously anounced a specific release date. So this doesn't mean much
It's just based on MS saying all the games from their showing will release within 12 months.
But games get delayed all the time even when they have previously anounced a specific release date. So this doesn't mean much
Craig of War
Banned
Day 1 and will be Indie GOTY
ClanOfNone
Member
2023 sucks but I trust Team Cherry to deliver the goods.
Their team is extremely small, hence originally being exclusive to Switch. Odds are MS did what they do in cases like this and send a team out to help get the game on their platform, combined with a Game Pass bag (which is a massive get for the devs and Game Pass so win/win).
skit_data
Member
Yeah, hopefully it won’t take them too long to get PS version underway. I could probably use my computer but I prefer playing stuff like this on my TV.
Swift_Star
Banned
Microsoft clearly moneyhatted the game.
CosmicComet
Member
Finally I can stop hearing people bitching and moaning about it on my Nintendo Directs.
skit_data
Member
I’m not sure, since it was announced on Switch first. I just think PS ended up with the short stick. Hopefully it will launch on PS not that long after.
yurinka
Member
It was originally announced only for Switch, maybe Nintendo moneyhatted them to do so. Maybe MS moneyhatted them to don't announce the PS version until later. Or who knows, maybe they also got moneyhatted release the PS version later, some months after the other versions, as happened with some other indies.
skit_data
Member
Playstation better moneyhat that shit as well so that we all can play this at launch and live happily ever after.
killatopak
Member
everything is 2023.
Swift_Star
Banned
that’s my guess too. They moneyhatted to keep the game off of PlayStation for a few months. The good thing about this is that, when it launches on PS, it’ll have all the patches and DLC available one release.
CosmicComet
Member
If Hollow Knight is as good as these rabid posters in Nintendo Direct threads claimed then Sony better be worried about delaying Ragnarok to '23 also.
yurinka
Member
PlayStation, like Nintendo or MS moneyhatted a ton of indies. Maybe PS was late or offered less money than MS or Nintendo for this one. But who knows, let's wait and see.
Maybe there isn't moneyhat, it's released day one in all platforms and they simply decided to announce the platforms separatedly over time.
Magic Carpet
Member
Is hollow knight considered to be a difficult game? I kind of want to give the first one a try but not if it's going to Elden Ring me.
skit_data
Member
It gets pretty difficult, especially later in the game. I haven’t beaten the last DLC boss and I don’t think I ever will.
Edit: With that said it’s mostly the bosses that are difficult, and you almost always have a save point pretty close.
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I think that term is not used for a game that is already far in development?
There's no point arguing with him. He doesn't understand the term "moneyhat" and is just throwing a tantrum because a potential GOTY candidate hasn't been announced for his preferred plastic box despite it being announced 3 years ago as a Switch exclusive.
ClanOfNone
Member
It's pretty tough, but I was able to beat the base game. Some of the later bosses and platforming sections can get pretty brutal. Getting the nail upgrades and good charms are the key.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
The first game was that good?
Timberwolf25
Member
The platforming in the secret areas and the boss rush mode is really really really hard
Swift_Star
Banned
Paying for not being on a platform is what moneyhat is.
Also, I have a Switch, lmao.
Jaybe
Member
Yes, it’s a difficult game. If you want to play it and complete it, to be safe buy it on PC and at least you can use a difficultly easing mod if you find it too hard/frustrating.
skit_data
Member
Ah, yes I forgot about the platforming, it can be very brutal. White Palace was crazy.
Belthazar
Member
It's reasonably more difficult than Elden Ring, as you can't grind your way out of a hard boss. There's also basically no overpowered options to melt bosses.
Roberts
Member
I can’t show you examples as I’m lazy but over the years I have seen quite a few videos that talk about ID@Xbox program and how they assist indie developers and help to bring a game to xbox. They clearly paid them as well to have it on GP but I seriously doubt anyone at xbox tried to prevent it from coming to PS
.Pennywise
Banned
Absolutely misleading title. June 2023 could be the release date, as it also could be the 11 months before that. This is what they're referring to
Magic Carpet
Member
Yikes, I guess I can do like Ori and the Will of the Wisps and just go as far as my skills can take me and bail.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
That's what "by June" means.
It's definitely not for everyone but it's a super tight, thoughtfully designed Metroidvania with tons of secrets and boss fights. I loved it and will play this day one. But if you don't like that style of game, this probably won't sell you on the genre.
Do you have proof Microsoft paid money for the game to not be on PlayStation? Waiting.
Jaybe
Member
What platform are you on?
Magic Carpet
Member
I got em all. So possible at least one of them had Hollow Knight as a freebee and its sitting in one of my libraries somewhere.
BossLackey
Gold Member
It is very very good, but to me it feels like a lot of people discovered Metroidvanias with Hollow Knight and are completely oblivious to others in the genre. I have a few friends that love Hollow Knight but basically refuse to play Metroid or Castlevania for some reason.
Jaybe
Member
Nice. It is on Xbox and PC game pass if you have either of those, and if not, perhaps there’s a $1 first month sub promo you can use (just cancel auto renew). I bought it on switch using another region I believe for about $6. I made it I think 12 or 15 hours until I hit a wall (no spoiler but two of a particular boss at once). I keep meaning to buy again on PC and use a mod just to get past some difficult situations.
ItsGreat
Member
I hope they bake in some accessibility options from the off and ensure less traveling time from restart points. Accessibility options along the lines of what Celeste has to offer.
The jumping in the first one got on my tits. It was like going back to the pixel perfect jumping of the 8-bit microcomputers mixed with a super twitchy in-air movement.
The jumping in the first one got on my tits. It was like going back to the pixel perfect jumping of the 8-bit microcomputers mixed with a super twitchy in-air movement.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Fbh
Member
Hollow Knight is awesome, it's easily my favorite metroidvania.
The world is visually striking and fun to explore, with intriguing locations and characters and a lot of lore if you want to get into that, the combat is fun, responsive and fairly challenging with great bosses, and it has a ton of content.
One of my favorite parts is that they have a lot of content which is easy to miss, which makes exploration really rewarding. In other Metroidvania like Metroid Dread you might find a hidden breakable wall that leads into a room with an upgrade. In Hollow Knight you'll find a hidden breakable wall that will take you to a whole new location with a distinct look, unique enemies, an optional boss or some weird new NPC, etc. I spent like 30 hours with the game and then when looking up some lore videos online I'd see locations and bosses I didn't even encounter.
It's not perfect though, the backtracking and moving around the world towards the end can be a bit annoying. And it also takes a few hours to really take off and become more than just another indie metroidvania.
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