DedalusJoyce
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What I have never used an ad blocker and don't see these ads you speak of
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Holy crap, have you tried browsing the Internet without Adblock Plus?
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Skellig Gra
Member
OP is 9 years old confirmed. Back in my day ad blockers didn't even exist.
Night Hunter
Banned
Do some people have a different kind of ad on GAF? Because for me it has only ever been two banners. One at the top, one at the bottom. They only other site that I visit that is about the same with ads is gamersyde.
I whitelist constantly for sites I like, but if I get even 1 pop up ad I can't close you can fuck right off.
I whitelist constantly for sites I like, but if I get even 1 pop up ad I can't close you can fuck right off.
CarpeDeezNutz
Member
I see those big ass ads on mobile and it makes me think it's part of the thread like someone posted an image lmao. Long as it keeps Neogaf free I don't really care.
s_mirage
Member
If content producers and ad hosts want people to stop using ad blockers, there has to be a fundamental change in the way they are going about their business. The rise of adblock has been necessitated by the very same behaviour by advertisers and ad hosts that led to pop-up blockers becoming default: increasingly obtrusive, unethical, and in some cases illegal, advertising, and a lack of good oversight by the hosts over the ads that they are serving.
Personally, I'm in favour of legislation. Forced redirects should be illegal, and ad hosts should suffer stiff penalties if any of their ads redirect or are a malware vector. That would hopefully force the hosts into properly curating the ads that they serve. A code of conduct amongst ad hosts with regards to bandwidth usage could also be welcome. If people had a reason to trust ad hosts, and the ads were unobtrusive, maybe people wouldn't feel that they have to protect themselves.
Valkyr1983
Banned
Do the people in here lamenting adblock also speak out against TiVo or dvr with ad removal?
What's the difference?
What's the difference?
Internet advert income is based upon clicks and views. TV adverts are already auctioned off and paid for way before you see it.
I will say one thing. I haven't used GAF for a while (except for quickly loading it up on my phone every now and then). In the past few days I've started using it again, and I was surprised when I see what the Neogaf front page looked like. It used to just be a small banner on the top, but now 80% of the screen is ads. The ads on mobile are also a lot bigger than they used to be.
I do use adblock on some websites. I try to whitelist those I use, since I understand that websites rely on ads for money, but I would never get rid of adblock entirely. These days it's pretty much a requirement to browse the internet safely, or without quickly using up your data if you are on mobile.
I realise that this is weird, since whitelisting websites makes things less safe and also results in increased data usage, but what else can I do? There needs to be a major change within the ad industry. It's crazy that I can't both be safe and also support the websites I use.
I do use adblock on some websites. I try to whitelist those I use, since I understand that websites rely on ads for money, but I would never get rid of adblock entirely. These days it's pretty much a requirement to browse the internet safely, or without quickly using up your data if you are on mobile.
I realise that this is weird, since whitelisting websites makes things less safe and also results in increased data usage, but what else can I do? There needs to be a major change within the ad industry. It's crazy that I can't both be safe and also support the websites I use.
ClosingADoor
Member
Totally agree that there is a lot of bullshit going around and rules need to be set. But this is very difficult in a global environment like the internet of course.
Big problem is that most publishers have zero influence over these things, but are the one hit the hardest. If you are a small publisher and 50% of your visitors are basically "worthless" in terms of ad money, then that is a difficult thing. And you do not hold the power to tell large ad networks what to do.
Most ads go through certain networks that should do the oversight for you. With a lot of networks that goes OK. But if something slips through, a lot of people will see it right away due to the scale of these things.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Damn it! Was only happening on my phone..now I've got that giant constantly looping Benz commercial on my tablet. What the fuck..
Ok, EviLore fiddled with he ads again. This
Probably better for mobile phones though.
I demand the ads be centered, however. A square ad tucked into the corner offends me somehow.
(* as in, "second-gen", full-width and slightly bigger)
Looks kinda stupid on my iPad 2 (ios7). I liked the previous* banner ads better, to be honest.
Probably better for mobile phones though.
I demand the ads be centered, however. A square ad tucked into the corner offends me somehow.
(* as in, "second-gen", full-width and slightly bigger)
mangochutney
Member
It isn't impossible.
The subscription and donation models work for many websites. Though I suspect the donation model is reliant upon a few who donate way more than you would typically expect someone to do.
CarpeDeezNutz
Member
The man has to eat people.
Wait,
The man has to eat, people.
Wait,
The man has to eat, people.
ClosingADoor
Member
It works for some, certainly not a majority of websites. Some websites that are based around personalities work (eg the ex-Gametrailers crew and Jim's stuff in gaming) and some large newspaper that offer specific content.
But this needs to be put into perspective. The Easy Allies stuff for example has 36,000 a month in donations. Looks like a lot, until you need to pay 10 people with it. For websites like Gamespot, IGN, The Verge, etc, I don't see that working.
Of course no website just has the right to exist and if the landscape changes, people will be forced to adapt (just look at newspapers for example). I just think it mostly sucks for the smaller websites and such, who can now make a living off their work and will be hit the hardest.
Jacksinthe
Banned
I use adblock but only if sites are egregious. (Which GAF isnt, IMO.)
GAF is overwhelmingly tame. You'll get the occasional bugged out mobile AD but that's not GAF's doing. There's barely anything on GAF in terms of ads, IMO. I don't see what the big deal is.
It's the sites that pop shit up left and right, blast video ads with audio without a toggle, etc. Fuck that.
I'm fair when it comes to its use. The moment you try to bend me over when I'm browsing your site is the moment I flip it on. I add sites by hand to my blacklist. GAF isnt one of them.
GAF is overwhelmingly tame. You'll get the occasional bugged out mobile AD but that's not GAF's doing. There's barely anything on GAF in terms of ads, IMO. I don't see what the big deal is.
It's the sites that pop shit up left and right, blast video ads with audio without a toggle, etc. Fuck that.
I'm fair when it comes to its use. The moment you try to bend me over when I'm browsing your site is the moment I flip it on. I add sites by hand to my blacklist. GAF isnt one of them.
Been like that for days for me.
Stitch
Gold Member
Webwasher was released 18 years ago
Glass Shark
Banned
I use Ghostery on almost every website to block trackers, ads, and other unwanted junk. I don't feel bad about it in the least.
Ads on GAF are really not that bad in comparison to other sites out there... I wish there weren't so many trackers, though.
Ads on GAF are really not that bad in comparison to other sites out there... I wish there weren't so many trackers, though.
Ravensmash
Member
Honestly, I don't mind ads on most sites. Here on GAF they're fairly unobtrusive (apart from the huge new mobile ones).
Some sites are bloody awful though, especially on mobile.
Think it was Whatculture where the ads keep popping up a short while after I begin scrolling down the page - AND turn off any audio playing on the phone because they're video ads.
That's not cool.
Some sites are bloody awful though, especially on mobile.
Think it was Whatculture where the ads keep popping up a short while after I begin scrolling down the page - AND turn off any audio playing on the phone because they're video ads.
That's not cool.
Really. I just noticed it an hour ago. Must've been cached on my phone somehow.
The larger ad is very obnoxious and distracting.
Demoskinos
Member
Same here. I gladly pay for several websites out of my pocket every month to support them.
I use adblock, but disable it on sites I frequent (such as GAF). The only sites I can think of where I still use it are porn sites and The Verge. The verge is seriously scummy with their ads, especially on mobile. Hell the article where they talk about mobile sites being bloated was massive by mobile web page standards.
Cornbread78
Member
I'm fine with them because I understand the ads let us all play in the NeoGAF playground. I will admit that recently, the mobile site has been much tougher with the ads being so large and I've continued to win a number of prizes from NeoGAF. I am very flattered at the nice offers for free phones, etc, but please place my winnings in the pub fund for everyone to enjoy.
Skellig Gra
Member
Yeah well I'm 33
and back in the aol days the Internet was basically one big ad
Stitch
Gold Member
Yeah well I'm 33
Me too
But I started browsing the web pretty late. I think it was actually pretty much at the same time when Webwasher was released. I guess I was lucky
I might have missed it, but what is the counter argument to this? Because even Neogaf i believe has had malware in ads in the past.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Yeah right...
Define "few".
I'm all for NeoGAF making money, but saying that intrusive ads and redirects are rare here is simply false.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Are we talking mobile? I've never once had an ad redirect me here.
The Elite
BOSS
I haven't had any problems with GAF in 10 years beyond the random ad with music.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I don't use any kind of adblocker, but regardless I don't think the ads on Gaf are bad at all.
I've had a ton of redirects on mobile here. More than any other site I visit.
This. GAF is one of the better places on the internet when it comes to having ads that aren't disruptive or anything. News sites in particular seem really awful with their ads.
I haven't had any in a while, but I used to get the occasional mobile redirect.
RockTurtle
Member
what happened to the thin, rectangular ads? i'm getting huge square ads now
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I should have clarified, I browse GAF 99% of the time on PC and have never had a redirect so I was asking if it's only a mobile issue.
Although the few times I've browsed on mobile I've also never had a redirect so *shrug*
notworksafe
Member
Yeah, I've had some of the worst ads from this site. And then folks wonder why users are adblocking. Stop serving malware and redirects.
partyphone
Banned
ads have become one of the biggest vectors for malware. not running one puts your machine at greater risk. ublock origin is currently the best one to use.
I don't block ads on mobile because security isn't an issue. yet.
I don't block ads on mobile because security isn't an issue. yet.
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