I remember Bryan High was referred to as an open-door jail by the teachers at Bryan Middle. They actually got together all the kids that elected to go to North High instead and threw us a pizza party before we went there :lol
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Homeschooling - Yay or Nay?
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I remember Bryan High was referred to as an open-door jail by the teachers at Bryan Middle. They actually got together all the kids that elected to go to North High instead and threw us a pizza party before we went there :lol
Northeastmonk
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We said Millard North was built to be a jail because the hallways were long and there were cement walls all over the place. At least 3 people there committed suicide and there was even awareness for kids with ADHD. The principal at the time walked into class and even said who killed themselves. He literally came room to room to announce the news. I broke down and even went to his funeral. I sat on the side in a complete wreck.
ADHD was just coming into the spotlight when I started high school. I was even on the meds at one point. People just joked about it and abused the drugs for fun. Kids were selling Adderall in the hallways and they'd get super excited when something went down.
I remember this very rich kid who use to shoot up all the time and he even did it at my house back then. I went over to his house and it was like a mansion. These kids have parents with money, but they were using it for all the wrong reasons. Looking back I'm glad I'm in the present and not the past. I want to forget those days ever happened.
makingmusic476
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Some childhood friends of mine were homeschooled. They made a former home schoolers support group on Facebook.
The local homeschool group was filled with kids from strict Catholic families whose parents felt even the Catholic private schools weren't doing a good enough job of keeping their kids from being exposed to bad things from other students. I went to one of those private schools, as my parents were ever so slightly more laid back.
I struggled early on in college due to introvertedness and general social awkwardness, and I can only imagine how much more closed off I would've been had I been homeschooled. The few homeschooled kids I knew who excelled later in life were lucky enough to be naturally extroverted (VERY extroverted).
Many parents who choose to homeschool their kids do so BECAUSE the kids have developmental issues that prevent them from properly socializing. I remember attending homeschool group meetups and feeling embarrassed because so many of the kids were weird. It wasn't until about 6th grade that I realized that my mom chose to homeschool me for the benefits and not because I NEEDED it. As a matter of fact I remember many adults being impressed with how social I was towards adults even when I was young. It really depends on if the child is inclined to be social.
AdventureRacing
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I think that kids in general aren't taught nearly enough and we baby them for way too long when they're capable of so much more. Having said that i'm not sure i can advocate homeschooling. If you're going to do it you need to know what you're doing and have a good plan of how you're going to do. You also need to have a lot of free time to be able to do it. I feel if you start doing it and eventually aren't able to and your child has to enter the school system it would be difficult as well.
That plus you need to find a way to make up for the lack of social interaction. This is hard to do because of the variety of people and situations that you find yourself in going to school. It can be done for sure but it's not easy.
I think if you're worried about them not learning as much as they should then maybe adding in some extra curricular stuff at home could help.
Having said all that if you're confident you can do it i don't really have a problem with it and i have seen it work.
That plus you need to find a way to make up for the lack of social interaction. This is hard to do because of the variety of people and situations that you find yourself in going to school. It can be done for sure but it's not easy.
I think if you're worried about them not learning as much as they should then maybe adding in some extra curricular stuff at home could help.
Having said all that if you're confident you can do it i don't really have a problem with it and i have seen it work.
MaschinenZimmer
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The main problem I see with this is not the academic part. If your wife is a teacher or you keep up with the material your boy should turn out fine. But, as many others here said, I see a problem with the social aspect.
I agree with pretty much everything in this text but I would like to add women to this mix. Think about it, the only women he will know will be his mother for a very long time and maybe one or two female girls he knows via other people. It is one thing having contact with the other gender here and there and a totally different one being constantly surrounded by other women/girls. I don't talk specifically about relationships but take a look in some of those relationship topics here on GAF and I can very easily tell you who had lots of contacts with women and who only knows women primarily from porn movies.
If you don't want your son to be one of those 'friendzoned' -guys, send him to a public school. And I would bet my ass the same would apply even if he turns out being gay. Don't see school only from the academic view.
I agree with pretty much everything in this text but I would like to add women to this mix. Think about it, the only women he will know will be his mother for a very long time and maybe one or two female girls he knows via other people. It is one thing having contact with the other gender here and there and a totally different one being constantly surrounded by other women/girls. I don't talk specifically about relationships but take a look in some of those relationship topics here on GAF and I can very easily tell you who had lots of contacts with women and who only knows women primarily from porn movies.
If you don't want your son to be one of those 'friendzoned' -guys, send him to a public school. And I would bet my ass the same would apply even if he turns out being gay. Don't see school only from the academic view.
MaschinenZimmer
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Yes, you are absolutely right. But there is a difference between being in contact with them for an hour or two a day or being constantly surrounded by other people, people you might even don't like. You know, the way most people end up at their workplace.
There is a difference between being in a relationship with a women and meeting up a few times of the week or being married to her and living with her. In both cases, it's a difference like night and day.
GoldenEye 007
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Please make sure they get as much social interaction as possible for their given situation... I say that as a college admissions officer.
Prime crotch
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he seems so not socially awkward
I went to a small public school and I plan on raising my kids the same. I got help outside of school because my parents were awesome and encouraged me to exceed.
Nothing wrong with homeschooling, but most of my most integral life lessons came from interacting with kids in middle school and high school.
Nothing wrong with homeschooling, but most of my most integral life lessons came from interacting with kids in middle school and high school.
MaschinenZimmer
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And you don't want your child to being able to learn those lessons because...?
I think you misunderstood me. I plan on having my kids go to public school to learn those same lessons. I just also don't see anything wrong with people doing homeschooling, as long as it is done correctly.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with home schooling, but anecdotally, the dozen or so kids I've ever met that were home-schooled were all a bit weird.
It was partially some awkward social interactions, but not in the way you'd think. They seemed to be like little adults, with very good social skills, which made them stick out like a sore thumb amongst people I knew. Additionally, they were also more likely than not to be extra religious, and more likely to not critically question things while also being smarter in terms of raw knowledge. They also smiled too much. Like they were doing it out of some obligation and not because they were genuinely happy. They also never got to watch cool cartoons.
Again, this is a small group localized to the midwest in the United States, and half of them were from two families, so don't take that as an indictment against home schooling in general. I just think its strange from my limited encounters with people who chose that lifestyle.
All that being said, I'm 100% against it if its the parents doing the bulk of the teaching.
It was partially some awkward social interactions, but not in the way you'd think. They seemed to be like little adults, with very good social skills, which made them stick out like a sore thumb amongst people I knew. Additionally, they were also more likely than not to be extra religious, and more likely to not critically question things while also being smarter in terms of raw knowledge. They also smiled too much. Like they were doing it out of some obligation and not because they were genuinely happy. They also never got to watch cool cartoons.
Again, this is a small group localized to the midwest in the United States, and half of them were from two families, so don't take that as an indictment against home schooling in general. I just think its strange from my limited encounters with people who chose that lifestyle.
All that being said, I'm 100% against it if its the parents doing the bulk of the teaching.
MaschinenZimmer
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Oh, sorry, I misread your post.
Wouldn't that be because the parents are weird and religious? It's not that homeschooled people find god by themselves in those case it's probably the parents being very hard and obtuse in that regard.
I mean the OP has stated that the only reason for him is the quality of the education his children are getting, I don't know why people keep mentioning this when it clearly won't be the case.
I'm for it personally.
Oppo
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I don't have kids...
but I'm not sure how you can classify a pair of 5-year-olds and a 7-year-old as "breezing through public school"; they've barely just arrived.
I would think you should be wary of fixing what ain't broke, so to speak. And pulling them out of school now might cause other problems.
but I'm not sure how you can classify a pair of 5-year-olds and a 7-year-old as "breezing through public school"; they've barely just arrived.
I would think you should be wary of fixing what ain't broke, so to speak. And pulling them out of school now might cause other problems.
OldAsUrSock
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If you feel like they will learn better than in the public schools in your area then sure. Though some people really shouldn't homeschool. Like the ones with 7 kids and trying to school them all.
There are tons of ways to successfully homeschool kids. And if you are so big on social interaction, implying that kids get useful social skills in school, there are numerous homeschool groups for young people to meet.
There are tons of ways to successfully homeschool kids. And if you are so big on social interaction, implying that kids get useful social skills in school, there are numerous homeschool groups for young people to meet.
MrAstronaut
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I feel like homeschooling is ideal. (Granted I've only been in the public system). You just need to make sure they have social interaction.
Homeschooling will tune their education more towards their specific needs, however they may end up sheltered if you're not careful.
Homeschooling will tune their education more towards their specific needs, however they may end up sheltered if you're not careful.
Is it possible to mix?
Like have the kid stay the first few periods in public school then after recess pick them up and homeschool them for a few hours.
A few hours of homeschooling is more than enough than a whole days worth of PS depending on whose teaching. I think that would be the greatest scenario.
Like have the kid stay the first few periods in public school then after recess pick them up and homeschool them for a few hours.
A few hours of homeschooling is more than enough than a whole days worth of PS depending on whose teaching. I think that would be the greatest scenario.
Sixfortyfive
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Unless your kids are just having a miserable, irreparable time in school, I wouldn't consider it.
Homeschooling is only good if your kid exhibits exceptional behavior and they have structure similar to an actual school with private tutors and a real curriculum.
To echo what most have already said, homeschooled kids I knew eventually transferred to get official high school diplomas but they were hella awkward and, because they weren't socialized properly, manipulated really easily. Completely intelligent, but completely socially unaware.
I think it would be better to put them in more advanced academic programs after school than anything else.
To echo what most have already said, homeschooled kids I knew eventually transferred to get official high school diplomas but they were hella awkward and, because they weren't socialized properly, manipulated really easily. Completely intelligent, but completely socially unaware.
I think it would be better to put them in more advanced academic programs after school than anything else.
ThankYouDaletech
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I teach/tutor music and have taught small classes in other fields. Interacting with homeschooled kids 6-16 is always terrible. Granted it's a relatively small sample size, the vast majority of them don't have the necessary social skills to make them tolerable as people. Imagine how a child would turn out without the instant and unfiltered feedback other children give. Homeschooled kids don't get that and thus never really learn when their social behavior is obnoxious or even unacceptable.
Then there are the problems with the parents of homeschooled children...
Then there are the problems with the parents of homeschooled children...
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PhoenixDark
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Yea...no. There are homeschooled kids with poor social skills, but being homeschooled in of itself doesn't=poor social skills. Traditionally the worst homeschooled kids tend to be those who are in rural areas and don't have many neighbors.
When I got done with school I went outside to chill with the public and private school kids. I'm always baffled by people who seem to think homeschool kids are locked at home 24/7. They play with neighbors, play with kids at church, Boy/Girl Scouts, sports, etc.
Karsticles
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What district are you in?
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
People always talk about issues with socializing, but the only child I know who is homeschooled is probably the most extroverted person I know right now. As long as you give them activities they can do that will put them around other people outside of your family there should be no problems on that front.
My niece and nephews were home schooled. I was worried they would turn out messed up but now that they are of college age and older they turned out fine. I know they also got together with other kids that were home schooled as well. Mind you, my sister in law is religous, so I assume that was one fact for having them home schooled.
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Homeschooling seems ideal if you can find an excellent teacher for your children. Finding socialization opportunities shouldn't be that much of a big deal.
I'm not a big fan of traditional schooling. They're definitely convenient for society, but I don't think there necessarily have some kind of inherent value that is superior to getting a good education at home or at a small private institute.
I'm not a big fan of traditional schooling. They're definitely convenient for society, but I don't think there necessarily have some kind of inherent value that is superior to getting a good education at home or at a small private institute.
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