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Hotline Miami 2 as a post-release review embargo
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fluffydelusions
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Reposting my response
I don't care because:
- Game is not expensive so even if it's bad you won't feel guilty having spent a lot of money on it
- We know the OST is already amazing (and probably worth it just for that)
- I doubt it would be difficult to screw up the gameplay. At worst the story won't be as good as the first
I don't care because:
- Game is not expensive so even if it's bad you won't feel guilty having spent a lot of money on it
- We know the OST is already amazing (and probably worth it just for that)
- I doubt it would be difficult to screw up the gameplay. At worst the story won't be as good as the first
PROh1bited
Banned
You won't be able to buy it on the PSN till it updates around 5pm anyways.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
The story of the 1st one wasn't all that great.
Honestly, I'm not sure how they fuck this up without completely destroying what they had done before.
hmmmm ok. delete thread if it's the same thing with steam please.
Captainbojanglesiii
Banned
I'm not worried about the quality of the game, but having review embargoes up after launch is a horrible practice that should stop regardless. Don't worry about this game, I'd say. I'd be shocked if they somehow managed to mess it up.
Edit: Spoilers are indeed a thing, and I'd understand if they wanted nothing to be spoiled, I guess. I can see some consumers being potentially annoyed though, not myself of course.
Edit: Spoilers are indeed a thing, and I'd understand if they wanted nothing to be spoiled, I guess. I can see some consumers being potentially annoyed though, not myself of course.
Daria Morgendorffer
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OP doesn't mention timezones at all, so how long after release is this magical 3 pm?
Embargos aren't always put in place just because a dev/pub isn't confident in a game. Some like having reviews rush in (especially positive ones) when people can go out and buy the game.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
Is it possible that this is just to avoid spoiling some sort of plot point or gameplay mechanic? It's hard to imagine anything being disastrously wrong with this game.
And yet there is still an embargo.
Hysterical
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Someone in the other thread made a point that its to keep spoilers away. Theyve been very quiet with details about the game so I'm guessing they're leaving it to surprise
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
The price in the Mexican Steam store is so good that I'll just wait till it's out and read some reviews before buying, I don't mind paying that 10%.
boredandlazy
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Embargo finishes before it's released in Australia. 
Going by EST, if Steam unlocks at 1pm, then it's 2 hours later.
For PSN... it's whenever they decide to push the button, could be 2pm, could be 11pm.
Living Proof
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If you wait for the store to update like a n00b, sure
FinalStageBoss
Banned
I'm still getting it, I don't give a shit about reviews.
I'd imagine thats what it is, experiencing the first game with knowledge before hand would be completely different than going in blind
This is likely, also because the rest of the world is getting it a day after the US release date. Seems like the embargo is actually fair..
But a worldwide release date would've been preferable
bodine1231
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You don't HAVE to buy a game the second it comes out. Just wait for the reviews.
So you're saying people leaning on the fence release day would be more likely to buy when they see good reviews coming in? I think having reviews come in before release would drum up positive word of mouth.
Palculator
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Simply unacceptable. I know it's not hard to just wait for reviews before buying because buying a game is rarely urgent, but on the other hand it's just bad for the consumer to try to limit the amount of criticism that's out there, even temporarily.
It's extra bad because the first game was good enough that I'd trust them to deliver again, but hearing this has given me a bad enough impression that I'll now definitely wait for the reviews before buying.
We'll also see if Kotaku will keep their word. See jschreier's response below.
It's extra bad because the first game was good enough that I'd trust them to deliver again, but hearing this has given me a bad enough impression that I'll now definitely wait for the reviews before buying.
MichaelFassbender
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Unless the levels are bad and the soundtrack doesn't represent the pacing, I don't see much bad with this.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
Velcro Fly
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$15 game with simple gameplay that builds on the insanely popular and critically acclaimed first game
People have way more faith than they do in your run of the mill AAA game publisher I guess.
People have way more faith than they do in your run of the mill AAA game publisher I guess.
For games that don't have $100 million marketing budgets and have a pricepoint that's within impulse buy range, having a review come out without the option for the reader to immediately go and buy it before it passes out of their mind isn't a great idea. I'm sure the game is good. Comparing it to Unity is pretty ridiculous.
We don't have a review copy AFAIK.
Cheat Code
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They've hardly shown any of the game. They've pretty much exclusively demoed the same few levels over and over.
I am pretty confident they are hiding something big and the embargo is to help that. It's gonna be more Hotline Miami there's not many places it could end up going wrong.
I am pretty confident they are hiding something big and the embargo is to help that. It's gonna be more Hotline Miami there's not many places it could end up going wrong.
PROh1bited
Banned
Yes cause how else are you supposed to get it?
John Kowalski
Banned
they are gonna pull a mgs2 i can just feel it
I'm just echoing what Greg Kasavin said when asked about the Transistor release day embargo. I think you could make an argument for people who see high review scores and just impulse buy the game right away. I know for me personally I've done that with a few games. An impulse buy is more concrete than a preorder that you could still cancel I suppose.
And I guess another reason could be that they're hiding something secret in the game that could potentially be spoiled. HM2 seems like such a known quantity though and yet they've barely showed any of it.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number improves on virtually everything from its first iteration, with a level editor on the way in a free update, but is it enough?
The website usually updates earlier.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Okay, I'll edit in a note. Thanks for the clarification! Is there a reason you don't have any? Sorry, but I'm not really aware of the review M.O. with indie games.
BibiMaghoo
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Sometimes a search yields results before it's displayed on the main pages.
Goldenroad
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I'm sure the game is great. I bet you the performance is the pits on the new consoles. Don't ask me why. I think it's just because I just downloaded Hand of Fate on PS4, which is a card game (a card game!!) that has a frame rate that dips into the single digits during the shuffling and dealing animations. Maybe these consoles are hard to port to for a smaller team, but I'd give Dennaton the benefit of the doubt. HM ran just fine on PS3/Vita.
I don't get why people get so upset about these embargoes. There is nothing at all stopping you (or me) from buying this game after the reviews hit. How does it benefit me, in any way, buying it day 1? The only people this ends up hurting is the developers since maybe people won't buy it day one, but that doesn't effect me in any way.
I don't get why people get so upset about these embargoes. There is nothing at all stopping you (or me) from buying this game after the reviews hit. How does it benefit me, in any way, buying it day 1? The only people this ends up hurting is the developers since maybe people won't buy it day one, but that doesn't effect me in any way.
pokeystaples
Banned
Just wait until after work or school or whatever? I don't get the big deal?
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