TheRedSnifit
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It frankly feels like it's whitewashing the Nazi's crimes and philosophies.
Understandable. CoD multiplayer is mostly kids and they need to be protected. ;p
Exactly as it should be, take note DICE.
For a big massive game series like Call of Duty, I don't understand why they can't just add a realism toggle to the multiplayer. Like if you have it off, you see the character everyone chooses (including black female nazis), you see the crazy skins on the guns and uniforms, you don't see swastikas. If you turn it on, you only see a german male as a nazi, all the guns and uniforms look realistic, swastikas where appropriate. All of these visual changes would only be client-side, so only the player would see these changes. Sure it would cost more for the developers to make multiple assets, but for a huge series like COD that makes a buttload of money it shouldn't be a big deal. It would appeal to everyone at the same time with little controversy from either side.
So realistic that Battlefield 1 is full of weapons that didn't see combat in World War 1.Hell no! DICE focus on a more realistic war experience is what puts it miles ahead of CoD
Absolutely hypothethical purest from, maybe. That isn't what soviet communism were like though, once human nature got into the picture with lenins version of marxism,and what that grew into with communism. They're both responsible for the oppresion and deaths of many millions.Because Facism is evil.
And Socialism, in its purest form, is about equality.
But there really isn't that much bickering and the MP not including swakstikas will have zero effect on salesI literally barrage Sledgehammer Games with a similar request almost every day. Just add a fucking toggle!!
And it's not like they're having to work harder to create those extra assets - they already have them because the things we've seen are those extra assets - the iron crosses, the inaccurate banners, etc. Just add a toggle/option that asks "Would you like to see Nazi iconography? yes or no". It's very simple and it would solve all of the bickering over this issue.
The e-sports theory is the most logical one.
No company will sponsor a gaming event with nazi symbols all over it.
It's a shame, because I'm in the authenticity camp, but I understand why it's like that.
So realistic that Battlefield 1 is full of weapons that didn't see combat in World War 1.
Dumb fucking excuse, "muh realism". Get with the times and let people pick their race and gender in multiplayer.
For the E-sports angle, all they have to do is set that option/toggle to not display the Nazi iconography because it's being streamed or whatever and then there's not an issue.
Also I heard that they're going to censor Nazi iconography in the Zombies mode as well.
My god the Nazi's Zombies won't be quite as realistic and true to life.
lol people really want their swastikas and no women in the multiplayer, huh.
lmao
For a big massive game series like Call of Duty, I don't understand why they can't just add a realism toggle to the multiplayer. Like if you have it off, you see the character everyone chooses (including black female nazis), you see the crazy skins on the guns and uniforms, you don't see swastikas. If you turn it on, you only see a german male as a nazi, all the guns and uniforms look realistic, swastikas where appropriate. All of these visual changes would only be client-side, so only the player would see these changes. Sure it would cost more for the developers to make multiple assets, but for a huge series like COD that makes a buttload of money it shouldn't be a big deal. It would appeal to everyone at the same time with little controversy from either side.
I literally barrage Sledgehammer Games with a similar request almost every day. Just add a fucking toggle!!
And it's not like they're having to work harder to create those extra assets - they already have them because the things we've seen are those extra assets - the iron crosses, the inaccurate banners, etc. Just add a toggle/option that asks "Would you like to see Nazi iconography? yes or no". It's very simple and it would solve all of the bickering over this issue.
So realistic that Battlefield 1 is full of weapons that didn't see combat in World War 1.
Dumb fucking excuse, "muh realism". Get with the times and let people pick their race and gender in multiplayer.
Yeah, I've always hated the dumb skins in COD, but I have zero problem with players being able to pick their race and gender in multiplayer in any game in any time period.This is Cod we're talking about, the quote we're both referring to about "putting peoples avatar, whatever that may be, into a WW2 environment" gives me nightmarish visions of pink neon gingerbread men storming the beaches of Normandy against a chorus of rapid fire bacon themed MP40's..
What? Thats half assed. If youre going to make a WWII game especially years after the last one in the series use the full iconography in all parts of the game. No ifs and or buts, if prior titles in the series were unrelenting theres absolutely no reason we should censor certain parts of the game especially the one that is played by the most players. Show the atrocities of the Nazis and every damn perversion that came with it, including hiw they bastardized the swastikas and made it a symbol for their hatred.
Wolfenstein is comedic take on the results of the war and they are holding absolutely nothing back in the iconography part.
What? Thats half assed. If youre going to make a WWII game especially years after the last one in the series use the full iconography in all parts of the game. No ifs and or buts, if prior titles in the series were unrelenting theres absolutely no reason we should censor certain parts of the game especially the one that is played by the most players. Show the atrocities of the Nazis and every damn perversion that came with it, including hiw they bastardized the swastikas and made it a symbol for their hatred.
Wolfenstein is comedic take on the results of the war and they are holding absolutely nothing back in the iconography part.
You want games like Arma for something closer to that, really. Battlefield is not a milsim, and it has never tried to be.Hell no! DICE focus on a more realistic war experience is what puts it miles ahead of CoD
What self respecting black man would fight for the Axis willingly?
I mean it's fine to have, but it just feels weird.
Nothing breaks immersion faster than seeing a Cei-Rigotti in a WW1 game. Because obviously those weren't issued for use in WW1. Everyone knows that.So realistic that Battlefield 1 is full of weapons that didn't see combat in World War 1.
Dumb fucking excuse, "muh realism". Get with the times and let people pick their race and gender in multiplayer.
Nothing breaks immersion faster than seeing a Cei-Rigotti in a WW1 game. Because obviously those weren't issued for use in WW1. Everyone knows that.
10/10 will blast fools with a weed patterned gun and hot pink fatigues with a stoned banana 420swag git gud custom emblem.
People crying for realism in CoD multiplayer must be taking the pissI don't even smoke weed but that shit is hilarious
Maybe people who prefer mp40 over thompson. Most people play cod mp for fun, not to make a political statement.What self respecting black man would fight for the Axis willingly?
I mean it's fine to have, but it just feels weird.
The amount of people upset at this is mindboggling, but I shouldn't be surprised I guess?
Because Facism is evil.
And Socialism, in its purest form, is about equality.
Seems fine to me. Those people who just happen to love "the accuracy of history" can get all their swtazikas and male on male combat in the campaign, and for people that don't want it can play the MP.
Maybe people who prefer mp40 over thompson. Most people play cod mp for fun, not to make a political statement.
The amount of people upset at this is mindboggling, but I shouldn't be surprised I guess?
why is that in quotations?
Why was just showing the symbols a sticking point?
Source of The numbers: cold war propaganda, the numbers are lower. And nobody is calculating the Victims of capitalism or Just socialism that is blammed on the ideology and capitalism on the govermnent and leader, kinda unfair isnt?I think you might want to re-read your history books comrade. Tens of millions died at the hands of Socialism. Unless that just wasnt pure enough.
To the OP I am surprised they are not putting the swastikas in MP. Seems pointless to me. You can slaughter Nazi like dogs in SP but heaven forbid we role play a minute as one in MP. This is like when people were getting up in arms as playing as middle east insurgents shooting at Americans.... its a game people.