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[VlaudTheImpaler]

I was reading the which site is best thread and it seems like there is a lot of sentiment that while people love the way GAF is run, they feel it could be better with gaming news and such. Which is the only reason they go elsewhere even when they'd rather not. So, I was thinking. Since GAF has the most important thing already covered, a strong foundation in fair and open discussion and sane moderation, then how can we as a community better build upon that strong foundation and strengthen the areas people wish where better?

I've always lived by "Be the change you want to see." So, how do we help equip people to do that? IMO, With more knowledge.*

So I figured I'd start a thread to be sort of a resource to people who are looking for ways they can contribute.

Here we can post all of the ways we contribute and how we do that so others can see and learn. For instance, if you are someone who likes to post or find new video game news, what sources do you watch? Do you reach out to devs? What is the best way to do that? etc. Some of these things might seem like common sense to you. But perhaps it could help.

If you guys think this is a good idea and If this thread stays active, I'll try to update the OP and make a list of the various game related news sources that are posted that people can watch and the methods to do so. More eyes on more sources, niche or otherwise, should translate to the news being posted on GAF faster so that discussion can happen here rather than elsewhere.

* To be clear. I am talking about providing more sources for info that people may not know about. There are all kinds of websites out there that keep up to date and are dedicated to certain niches and may have info that people here might find interesting. So sites dedicated to Retro gaming news, indie gaming news, PC hardware news, etc. There may even be some twitter feeds from devs or industry peeps that actually post stuff. It might seem like common knowledge but perhaps a condensed list of sites people know of that are actively putting out new info would put more eyes on them. Which would therefore lead to more opportunities for threads to be made about those topics that those posters care about here on GAF.

So far posters in this thread have given their sources of info for:

Mainstream Gaming (non specific genre)

ExclusivelyGames
Twinfinite
Siliconera
GamingBolt
NicheGamer
Dualshockers
AlphaBetaGamer
IndieSmasher
GamesPress
GamingInstinct

PC

PCGamer

Consoles

GameFront

XBOX

(empty)

PlayStation

(empty)

Hardware

(empty)

Japanese Gaming

Gematsu

Retro

IndieRetro
ClassicAdventurer

Indie

IndieGames+
WarpDoor
IndieGameWebsite
Ind13

Graphics Tech

(empty)

Sales

VGChartz

(empty)

 

[Mista]

I’ve been trying my best to make threads about news as soon as they drop. Other things such as leaks and all that isn’t something I can control

But as soon as gaming news outlets reports something, you’ll see it immediately on GAF

 

[Deeper Underground]

I mean, let’s be real guys. After the split in forums, Reeee took all of the people and industry dwellers with them. We can do our best to try and cultivate that kind of environment again, but what’s done is done. Just try to enjoy it for what it is now.

 

[aerts1js]

I love the premise of the thread. We do need more ppl willing to step up and make threads. I’ll try to do my part but admittedly don’t have the most free time

 

[Guilty_AI]

I think the main issue with getting news here is simply the fact that you can't compete with the likes of reddit that have thousands of subs about different sectors of gaming. You can go to specific subs to get pc gaming news, ps4 news, specific games or specific gaming company news, etc.

Maybe separating "gaming" in different sections could help, although of course that'd probably bring its own set of community problems.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I mean, let’s be real guys. After the split in forums, Reeee took all of the people and industry dwellers with them. We can do our best to try and cultivate that kind of environment again, but what’s done is done. Just try to enjoy it for what it is now.

Are you talking about resetera? I'm new here so i don't know much about that. What was it all about?

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Are you talking about resetera? I'm new here so i don't know much about that. What was it all about?

There was a split a couple (?) years due to some kind of controversy.

Basically Neogaf was an insanely busy forum but also very leftist in ideology. I remember nearly getting a ban for looking at Gamergate neutrally back in 2014 despite a clean record.

Anyways....

After whatever the controversy was here, all the really looney leftist types left here and gone on to make ResetEra.

So now Neogaf is more chill and open and ResetEra keeps to what was once GAFs authoritarian views and policing prior to the exodus.

Oh I guess some mods were found out to be pedos or something too.

Unfortunately, the game industry, much like the rest of tech, Hollywood, academia, etc prefer the 'wokies' so they all said adios to GAF and joined the ResetEra crowd.

I'm sure someone else could it explain it better though.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

I think its more this virus shutdown thats slowed everything down more than a gaf problem.

1 thing that might help is not getting pissy whenever that Alex guy is in a DF video.

 

[deriks]

In the Gaming section should have another sub-section with just news. People will probably post twice the same thing from time to time, but as the mods do today, the first or the better constructed one stays.

 

[GHG]

For a start stop trying to change thread titles to fit your narrative when reporting news.

Just copy and paste the original articles title and reference the source, it's not that difficult.

That will allow threads to get off on a balanced and unbiased footing. Maybe that way a decent discussion can start before the crazies arrive.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

I’ve been trying my best to make threads about news as soon as they drop. Other things such as leaks and all that isn’t something I can control

But as soon as gaming news outlets reports something, you’ll see it immediately on GAF

Do you mind posting some of the sources you watch for info? Trying to put a list together for the OP.

I'm going to try to break them down into categories if I can get enough sources from everybody. Like Retro gaming news sources, indie devs and so on.

 

[Jesb]

Resetera is ridiculous. Currently on a two week ban for saying. “Why is this an issue, there are lots of stereotypes in games”

It was a thread about someone lamenting square for having a racist stereotype with that black character.

 

[near]

More members need to be willing to post threads with news and topics that they themselves may not be very interested in. I personally am I guilty in not contributing entirely in this regard, but in order to generate more discussion we need topics to facilitate that. Off-topic discussion is not what it use to be, neither in quantity or variety in topics. Gaming discussion is often late with reporting news stories and as whole needs consistency to be interesting.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

More members need to be willing to post threads with news and topics that they themselves may not be very interested in. I personally am I guilty in not contributing entirely in this regard, but in order to generate more discussion we need topics to facilitate that. Off-topic discussion is not what it use to be, neither in quantity or variety in topics. Gaming discussion is often late with reporting news stories and as whole needs consistency to be interesting.

I saw that there was no thread about Mary Skelter Finale (Mary Skelter 3) here.

I made one, despite it being "old" news elsewhere.

Not one Like or Reply.

It's just really slowed here I guess. Maybe interests are just not as diverse here anymore. I dunno.

 

[JSoup]

Having people around and engaged helps. Something I used to enjoy from old GAF and other forums was off-topic threads about new stories from around the world. It's not gaming, yes, but it keeps people coming back and posting. More eyes on the board, more likely people will feel comfortable starting and posting in threads.

The issue is the last three times someone made new story threads, they got bitched out for doing it (by the same guy each time, interestingly) and the threads devolved into a pissing contest. I would rely on mods to step in at that point and either tell everyone to shut the fuck up or just lock the thread.

 

[near]

I saw that there was no thread about Mary Skelter Finale (Mary Skelter 3) here.

I made one, despite it being "old" news elsewhere.

Not one Like or Reply.

It's just really slowed here I guess. Maybe interests are just not as diverse here anymore. I dunno.

It can be disheartening to see your thread buried, I'm almost certain someone would've appreciated the thread if it was perhaps posted while it was still "new" news. Sometimes threads need a little bump in order for them to be exposed to people who're very much interested in discussing that topic. Like you say it is slow here, but in order to generate discussion the topics need to be there and on time.

 

[Mista]

Do you mind posting some of the sources you watch for info? Trying to put a list together for the OP.

I'm going to try to break them down into categories if I can get enough sources from everybody. Like Retro gaming news sources, indie devs and so on.

Gematsu
Twinfinite
VGC
Siliconera
GamingBolt
PCGamer

 

[DynamiteCop!]

The only way this is going to happen is if this forum goes full blown democrat, progressive and socialist again, because those are the mindshare of those in the industry.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

It can be disheartening to see your thread buried, I'm almost certain someone would've appreciated the thread if it was perhaps posted while it was still "new" news. Sometimes threads need a little bump in order for them to be exposed to people who're very much interested in discussing that topic. Like you say it is slow here, but in order to generate discussion the topics need to be there and on time.

Yeah I mean I posted "old" news because nobody ever made a thread about it when the game was announced. Was a little surprised.

I can understand considering it's a niche series and the new sequel is currently only in Japan, albeit the first two Mary Skelters got North American ports.

Maybe obscure "weeb shit" isn't as much loved in neo NeoGAF kek.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

The only way this is going to happen is if this forum goes full blown democrat, progressive and socialist again, because those are the mindshare of those in the industry.

The thread isn't about how can we lure industry peeps here. It's about how can we better equip our fellow members to be able to find info from sources that we can post so it gets posted here faster.

And other ways people can come up with to contribute.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

The thread isn't about how can we lure industry peeps here. It's about how can we better equip our fellow members to be able to find info from sources that we can post so it gets posted here faster.

And other ways people can come up with to contribute.

Well, I mean you have to be in those circles to be in a position to get this kind of information so it kind of goes hand in hand.

 

[Rightisright]

When you have GAF banning Tim Dog for being a "fake insider", when he is known to talk to MS executives and gets them on his stream with Dealer, but yet OsirisBlack who trolled this forum with fake insider bullshit for weeks, and still isn't banned, then the mods need to take it on the chin as well for pulling some bizarre moves.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Well, I mean you have to be in those circles to be in a position to get this kind of information so it kind of goes hand in hand.

No, I'm talking about sources around the web. Like other websites. Look above at what Mista posted. There are probably other websites that are dedicated to specifically indie stuff as well. Same goes for Retro. Or whatever it is that peeps are interested in. Even PC hardware. Even game dev articles that more obscure sites might be keeping up to date with.

If anyone has cultivated relationships with devs and wants to share how they've done that then cool. But it isn't just about that.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

When you have GAF banning Tim Dog for being a "fake insider", when he is known to talk to MS executives and gets them on his stream with Dealer, but yet OsirisBlack who trolled this forum with fake insider bullshit for weeks, and still isn't banned, then the mods need to take it on the chin as well for pulling some bizarre moves.

Yeah for real, look at his post, look at all the positive reactions.

Look at my response, and one person laughing at me. This forum has a disconnect from reality problem.

 

[MasterCornholio]

As much as I love GaF it isn't formatted to be a news aggregate site like N4G. So while we can always create threads and discuss the latest news it will never be as efficient as N4G.

If anything it would be great to place tags more often on news that way we can filter them out better from everything else. Alot of threads get made with news in them but I don't see the tags in the title.

 

[Mista]

No, I'm talking about sources around the web. Like other websites. Look above at what Mista posted. There are probably other websites that are dedicated to specifically indie stuff as well. Same goes for Retro. Or whatever it is that peeps are interested in. Even PC hardware. Even game dev articles that more obscure sites might be keeping up to date with.

If anyone has cultivated relationships with devs and wants to share how they've done that then cool. But it isn't just about that.

The thing is people on here recently are just interested in next-gen comparisons. Go to my profile, see all the threads I made. You won’t see activity because people on here wanna act like 14 year olds cunts and juat fight all the time. As for news in general? We’re always working around the clock. Whenever a fresh news is posted, you’ll always find it on GAF.

 

[Mista]

As much as I love GaF it isn't formatted to be a news aggregate site like N4G. So while we can always create threads and discuss the latest news it will never be as efficient as N4G.

If anything it would be great to place tags more often on news that way we can filter them out better from everything else. Alot of threads get made with news in them but I don't see the tags in the title.

Tags don’t meant anything but a “label” .. So I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say.

 

[Elder Legend]

I was reading the which site is best thread and it seems like there is a lot of sentiment that while people love the way GAF is run, they feel it could be better with gaming news and such. Which is the only reason they go elsewhere even when they'd rather not. So, I was thinking. Since GAF has the most important thing already covered, a strong foundation in fair and open discussion and sane moderation, then how can we as a community better build upon that strong foundation and strengthen the areas people wish where better?

I've always lived by "Be the change you want to see." So, how do we help equip people to do that? IMO, With more knowledge.

So I figured I'd start a thread to be sort of a resource to people who are looking for ways they can contribute.

Here we can post all of the ways we contribute and how we do that so others can see and learn. For instance, if you are someone who likes to post or find new video game news, what sources do you watch? Do you reach out to devs? What is the best way to do that? etc. Some of these things might seem like common sense to you. But perhaps it could help.

If you guys think this is a good idea and If this thread stays active, I'll try to update the OP and make a list of the various game related news sources that are posted that people can watch and the methods to do so. More eyes on more sources, niche or otherwise, should translate to the news being posted on GAF faster so that discussion can happen here rather than elsewhere.

First we would need to ban all the moronic fanboys who QQ and cry when their plastic box is either weaker or stronger. Those types of people are not credible, they have no understand of how tech and pricing works and how business works. Nor do they actually care about gaming to begin with.

2nd

Its extremely competitive out there. Trying to find new or bring back old real "insiders" is a difficult feat. I work in the game industry myself, but I refuse to tell people what I do or where i come from in terms simply because of privacy reason and I am not interested in internet fame or anything of that's sort.

The only way you'll find those kinds of people are usually those are friends with developers themselves or some sort acquaintances, it's very rare and hard to come by and they can also be as wrong as any other perspn but at least they can be more credible than random X Y Z post on the internet.

I just like having conversations with other people who have a good understanding how the industry works and operates.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Personally I think the reaching for any random speculation from anyone who has been within 300 miles of either devkit as a thread title is counter productive. It seems like anything at all is being clung onto and spun to fit any narrative needed.

I also think that terms like “Xbots” and “Sony Ponies” should be outlawed (edit, or frowned upon). Nothing useful ever follows either label, just warring.

Just IMO.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

I also think that terms like “Xbots” and “Sony Ponies” should be outlawed. Nothing useful ever follows either label, just warring

Absolutely. These two terms are counter productive ad hominems. Fuck 'em both.

This goes for any of these asinine ad hominems.

 

[INC]

Make it 14tf

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

First we would need to ban all the moronic fanboys who QQ and cry when their plastic box is either weaker or stronger. Those types of people are not credible, they have no understand of how tech and pricing works and how business works. Nor do they actually care about gaming to begin with.

2nd

Its extremely competitive out there. Trying to find new or bring back old real "insiders" is a difficult feat. I work in the game industry myself, but I refuse to tell people what I do or where i come from in terms simply because of privacy reason and I am not interested in internet fame or anything of that's sort.

The only way you'll find those kinds of people are usually those are friends with developers themselves or some sort acquaintances, it's very rare and hard to come by and they can also be as wrong as any other perspn but at least they can be more credible than random X Y Z post on the internet.

I just like having conversations with other people who have a good understanding how the industry works and operates.

Yes, I agree the fanboying is really, really grating and juvenile.

And I also understand how you feel about posting as an insider. It's unfortunate to say the least. But just know that there are many on here that would appreciate you no matter what info you have to share. And it doesn't need to be something juicy. Even just technical knowledge on anything in your field in an explanatory way would be something that many would be interested in.

However, I feel like I need to make some amendments to the OP because I really wasn't talking about just bringing in insiders. But more being able to arm our members with sources of info they may not know about so that info could be posted and discussed here faster. I'll get on that edit.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I believe that blind, unquestioned cult-like fanboyism is kinda embarrassing. There’s so much hypocrisy where one wide will try to trash the other side for something both sides frequently do or say.

Sony isn’t perfect

MS isnt perfect

Neither console is perfect

Be critical but be fair

 

[MasterCornholio]

Tags don’t meant anything but a “label” .. So I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say.

Well you can filter threads by tags making the news more visible.

 

[Mista]

Well you can filter threads by tags making the news more visible.

Or you can simply search the name in the search bar. You can't do what you do on N4G in GAF

You literally round up news from different sites under your categories

 

[GHG]

I believe that blind, unquestioned cult-like fanboyism is kinda embarrassing. There’s so much hypocrisy where one wide will try to trash the other side for something both sides frequently do or say.

Sony isn’t perfect

MS isnt perfect

Neither console is perfect

Be critical but be fair

Sometimes these companies deserve to be savaged for the shit they do.

I personally can't stand the blind fanboys who refuse to acknowledge when something is wrong or not up to standard. But that's for another topic.

Like I said before, the first problem that needs to be solved is how news is reported here. Too many news threads don't get given a fair chance because the person who created it is using the news as a vector to console war.

 

[-Arcadia-]

This thread matches a lot of my own thoughts. It’s not a complaint as much as it’s, ‘This cool thing could be even cooler.’ For my part, I will try to be more proactive with content, and less reactive.

I feel like a lot of us here just enjoy surfing the front page, reacting to things, and replying. Which, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, that’s how some people are wired.

That said, it’s good to try new challenges, and maybe a mindset of personally getting involved in providing great content for everyone, original or shared, provided the creative impetus was there for the former, could pay dividends.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Or you can simply search the name in the search bar. You can't do what you do on N4G in GAF

You literally round up news from different sites under your categories

I just tried it out and you can filter the threads by tags. But what I'm saying is that alot of news doesn't get those tags so they are harder to find.

 

[Pejo]

Nice topic OP, but I think you're slightly missing the real problem. I think we get news fast enough, and enough news threads, but we're just not getting the gaming discussion. I mean, I admit, part of it is that the insiders and devs do post at REE, but the lack of active discourse causes these threads to drop off the front page, which basically is the death sentence on here since the board moves slow.

I noticed this a lot with OTs, but it's also true for news. Especially stuff like niche game announcements or news, they don't really have a chance before they fall off the front page, since only maybe 1/500 users click on them and comment, causing the bump. I think a lot of this site's traffic is just not as interested in games as the old GAF used to be, which is ok but I hope we get more gaming enthusiasts back. It seems like people are mostly here for OT and being able to actually discuss things with human beings (and some definite ban butt-hurt from REE that like to get their pat on the back for rejoining society). Just my 2 cents.

 

[DonF]

As much as I love GaF it isn't formatted to be a news aggregate site like N4G.

thank god, I hate those sites and thats why I flock to simpler sites like reddit and gaf. I want the headline and discussion. We just need more news posted, aka, more people like mista.


When the big exodus happened, I was so sad for games that released and didnt even get a review thread so I created some, but now, since there are more people, i have to admit i've stopped creating threads.

We need more involvement, its a slow process, but we are going to get there.

 

[FloatingIslands]

We need more IbizaPocholo 's

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

We need more IbizaPocholo 's

Be the change you want to see bro. Be the change.

 

[JORMBO]

News and OTs are pretty good for bigger stories and games. Doesn’t really feel like there is normally a lot of interest for smaller or less popular stuff. Not sure how to fix that other then getting more people.

 

[MasterCornholio]

thank god, I hate those sites and thats why I flock to simpler sites like reddit and gaf. I want the headline and discussion. We just need more news posted, aka, more people like mista.


When the big exodus happened, I was so sad for games that released and didnt even get a review thread so I created some, but now, since there are more people, i have to admit i've stopped creating threads.

We need more involvement, its a slow process, but we are going to get there.

I contribute on N4G regularly. Once I can create threads I would be happy to contribute to this site.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

I contribute on N4G regularly. Once I can create threads I would be happy to contribute to this site.

If you have sources for info and would like to provide them I can add them to the list in the OP if they aren't already there. That's something you could do in the meantime.

 

[drotahorror]

Highly recommend https://nichegamer.com/

Regardless of the name, it's not niche news or anything.

 

[V4skunk]

I don't read gaming news from mainstream sites. I go to forums instead or watch videos.

 

[Gargus]

Turn it into a standard news reporting site and the forums as part of that.

I'd even do news for a very modest fee, just enough to let me do a monthly fee payment.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Stop making threads about every no news regarding the new consoles or every time Phil farts.. just make threads about games, be it AAA old classics, or your favorite Indie titles, add pictures and videos to make the thing interesting ... This is it, we are all set.

Seriously, having threads to tell us that there will be an announcement next week.... or for everybody who mentions their company may announce something soonish, etc. it's a waste of bandwidth.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Highly recommend https://nichegamer.com/

Regardless of the name, it's not niche news or anything.

They're good. I like them but there was some controversy over people there plagiarizing other sites. Still they're one of my favorite gaming news sites.

I like one of the writers there. Can't remember her name but she's MtF and she broke the news about that E3 doxing. Fwiw she's got an account here. I just can't remember her name but I think it ends with -berg.