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How do you feel on the SD / Chibi art style to video games?
- Thread starter Tabris
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Unfortunately the only picture I could find but it gets the point across.
Yes people have different body types, your point?
They are exaggerated?
( also is an illustrator, taking character design, and game design amongst other things.)
This is not a consistent 'chibi' style like Bravely Default. It's pandering to lolicons.
Unless that thing on the bottom left is a dwarf.
You mean different body types. Which is a thing people have.
And they are exaggerated, which many of them, men and women, look like cute deformed small child like things. Which is the point.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Why do you think then that for one of their more exaggerated "young" looking designs they went with one of the more sexually suggestive designs? And don't feed me a line about "they just thought it looked good, its just a game man", if you are an illustrator then you know that more thought goes into a character design then "it just looks good"
Once again. People had different body types? We can have 30 years old lady with young girl bodies even in RL(short, baby face, lack of boobs.)
And...... NU GUNDAM wa Loli ja Nai!!!
Because all women with small chests are lolis.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I feel like the body type thing is becoming a crutch to avoid discussion of the fact that in a creative work everything is the result of a decision by the creator.
I am going to jail I see. T_T my GF had small chest.
Because people of different body types can belong in all sorts of cultures.
Immaculate
Banned
oh my god why do you always spew hyperbole
I don't even know what the argument is about right now lol. That all characters in EO are the similar age and just have different body types?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh nevermind.
SporeCrawler
Member
I dont know if bravely default is SD. sD is like head and rest of body being roughly the same size.
there are different petitle ones of different classes.
there is some in the chart above and you posted one earlier.
You ruining your own argument
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
For as much as we debate this I don't actually mind it in EO that much, mostly because the character art is such a minor part of the game. I just get frustrated at people who seem hellbent on insisting that no, there's no way anything at all creepy could ever be construed from that image, its just ridiculous to think that, of course its entirely innocent.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
You guys are obsessed with flat chests. Not once did I mention it or suggest it was my beef with the designs. If if was the artists intention to portray all the characters as adults he failed miserably.
Or in his head women are just incredibly short.
Well it's aimed for Japan, I follow the artist a lot and the girls he draws are always short.
But there are older looking and taller females too.
Anyway, it's still a good series which I do enjoy playing. But being from japan should pretty much prove that they're little girls.
Sseklebeast
Member
I love SD/Chibi graphics personally. Super Robot Wars is one of my favorite series and love how all the mechs translate to SD.
It all comes down to preference in the end, though.
It all comes down to preference in the end, though.
The one with the sword looks around 16 or something.
All the characters in the series like short.
You guys are obsessed with flat chests. Not once did I mention it or suggest it was my beef with the designs. If if was the artists intention to portray all the characters as adults he failed miserably.
Or in his head women are just incredibly short.
Well, how tall does a woman you consider here. In Asia, the normal height of woman is around 146+-to 160. There are some tall one too but not as many as in the west. And about height, how do you know the girl is tall or not here? I see that knight girl to be at least 160+ along with Dalla the innkeeper while I do can see the magic girl and dancing girl on shorter end.
Also one more thing. Since when does height is considered as mature signs?
Supermanisdead
Member
i think persona q and bravely default look cute as hell.
Yeah, if there's still time here to actually talk about the topic at hand. I do like that Chibi sort of style, it can be playful and fun. Puzzle & Pocket Fighter are rad as all hell. I think the art style of Persona Q is rad as hell. I'm fine with Bravery Default's style because it reminds me of PSX era Squaresoft.
This is Etna all over again right? Well I can assure it was the artists intention that they are not adults. Millennium Girl makes that pretty clear no? Now why are you insisting otherwise? Also why don't you apply your expert knowledge of Asia to the male designs.
I don't mind if it's a new IP.
I'd prefer that they not do chibi spin-offs or remakes of establish IPs... like Persona, Final Fantasy, etc.
Sometimes the style fits better, like with Hyperdimension Neptunia, the Noire game... the title is long and I can't remember it
but I'd have preferred it being 'regular'. But visually it fits the tone better, so it doesn't bother me.
While FFIII and FFIV on the DS are horrible to me. They're ugly, stiff and they have zero charm. So they do not accurately reflect the originals. (at least four doesn't). The Dancers in FFIV DS are just stupid, not hilariously charming.
I'd prefer that they not do chibi spin-offs or remakes of establish IPs... like Persona, Final Fantasy, etc.
Sometimes the style fits better, like with Hyperdimension Neptunia, the Noire game... the title is long and I can't remember it
but I'd have preferred it being 'regular'. But visually it fits the tone better, so it doesn't bother me.While FFIII and FFIV on the DS are horrible to me. They're ugly, stiff and they have zero charm. So they do not accurately reflect the originals. (at least four doesn't). The Dancers in FFIV DS are just stupid, not hilariously charming.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I don't mind them. Seeing the Fighter, White Mage minions in the new FFXIV video, I can imagine a totally SD classically look HD FF that might look damn sleek(and might be less harder to make a massive sprawling world rich with locations and characters if the perspective and NPCs match that SD look). Besides, like someone said, SD =/= kiddie. FFT features SD sprites and it's probably the darkest, most serious FF named title of them all. It's not about look, it's about the content of the story.
Mmmm? What does Millenium Girl makes clear here? That they had some characters with name that is young? While they also had other character who are on older side just like other EO series.
And about my knowledge of Asia,I can said what I said is mostly true as I am an Asian myself lol and I had seen it applied there to some of the males. For example, one of the dancer with black hair there looks close to some Bollywood dancers.
And this is not Etna case at all. In Etna case, the developers purposely explained about her age, circumstances to support the reason why she is in that condition.
This however is different in EO. No one tell us how old are they. No info at all. It is simply a blank sheet which we can insert the info based on our own imagination. Which is why I said, depend on each views, we can have different answer.
A Huge Battleship
Member
The most disgusting thing in this thread is people posting shitty cropped images of the magnificent Neptunia cast.
Better. No strong feelings one way or the other on the OP's question. Depends on the game, whether it's primarily comedic / non-serious, etc.
Better. No strong feelings one way or the other on the OP's question. Depends on the game, whether it's primarily comedic / non-serious, etc.
Yuji Himukai likes drawing little girls. His designs reflect this sensibility, and this is naturally going to bother some people. EO isn't awful about this outside of a few outliers, but the female designs are 'loli.' They are diminutive, half the size of the male characters, and trying to excuse this by saying it's just the body type or whatever feels like people are dodging the question entirely. They look young. They are meant to look young. It's not just because they're 'short.'
I don't hope for games to have the style, but I don't think I've never actually looked at a game with it and thought "This is horrible and the game should have a more serious/realistic style!". My issues with the art, if I have any, lie in other areas.
Bravely Default looks pretty good and Persona Q seems to be going for a combination of Persona characters/themes in the EO style (with acceptable results), so I don't care in those two cases. I don't really like the art in Theatrhythm though because the characters look soulless and creepy to me.
Bravely Default looks pretty good and Persona Q seems to be going for a combination of Persona characters/themes in the EO style (with acceptable results), so I don't care in those two cases. I don't really like the art in Theatrhythm though because the characters look soulless and creepy to me.
Shoujo/girl is not something you'd call an adult woman(referring to the title)
the artists intent is pretty clear. He likes drawing young girls.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm not denying that he likes to draw young girls, I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Shoujo/girl is not something you'd call an adult woman(referring to the title)
the artists intent is pretty clear. He likes drawing young girls.
I love that picture, Frederica is love.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
To bring things back around again I'm fine with the style in Bravely Default. It doesn't do a whole lot for me, but its very similar to the style they went for in the FFIII remake where they were almost trying to do a modern version of the classic artstyle.
With that said, the bikini and bunny suit stuff is weird. To my knowledge there's no context for it in the game (I don't think they even bother to try and have a "beach scene") so its clearly meant to titilate, but the figure is so deformed that I can't picture anyone enjoying it that way either. It honestly makes me wonder if its almost meant to be some kind of parody or something making fun of the famous Fire Emblem DLC and similar practices
With that said, the bikini and bunny suit stuff is weird. To my knowledge there's no context for it in the game (I don't think they even bother to try and have a "beach scene") so its clearly meant to titilate, but the figure is so deformed that I can't picture anyone enjoying it that way either. It honestly makes me wonder if its almost meant to be some kind of parody or something making fun of the famous Fire Emblem DLC and similar practices
it's there to sell the drama cd or whatever it's a bonus for
Why did you use those in that order, the girl in the first one is Nene not Rinko.
This is Rinko.
Also not sure why you're bringing Love Plus into this since the characters are not chibi.
Let's be honest, boys. Who wouldn't chose Rinko over a 3DPD?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Kandrick
GAF's Ed McMahon
Yes, but how? Fan-service usually has something about it that can be construed as, well, sexy. Is there anyone out there who would actually have that reaction to this?
Like I said, I just find it weird.
Fan service doesnt mean it has to be sexy. Also I think it's pretty cute!
The reason the smaller characters in EO look young is because the proportion of the length of their head to their height is much larger than the older-looking characters.
I don't think it's unreasonable to think the small boy and girl characters are both underaged, not that I think there's anything wrong with that either.
I don't think it's unreasonable to think the small boy and girl characters are both underaged, not that I think there's anything wrong with that either.
VeryGooster
Banned
Sums it up for me.