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How is Wii U going to do in 2013?
- Thread starter hatchx
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They may announce a Mario and Zelda game but I honestly wouldn't expect them this year. I wouldn't be surprised if a 3DS Zelda came out next year though. The big Holiday games will probably be Retro's new game and another one of Nintendo's IPs if not a new one announced at E3. I'm sure they'll show off games like the new Smash Bros though to build up hype. There's also probably 3rd party multiplat and exclusives that haven't been announced yet as well.
Regarding 1st party: It will suck. All of the big names, 3D Mario, LoZ, SSB4 will miss 2013. Starfox, F-zero and Earthbound will stay dead. Alongside of Pikmin 3, the games of 2013 are: HAL made Kirby, Mario Strikers 3, Yoshi's Land by Retro, Wii Sports 3, Excite Truck 2 and Wii Party 2 will be released. Because of Gamefreak still refuses to work on a home console a crappy Pokémon is also given. A Fire Emblem game will be released only for Japan with a 2014 western release.
2nd Party: Only Bayonetta 2 for fall 2013. Definitely no Dragon Quest X. The series is dead in west and Nintendo will do nothing about it.
3rd Party:
Square-enix: Only a new FFCC game that no one will care about. SE then kill the series after lack of interest. Game will bomb hard. No TR, no other Eidos games.
Capcom: Beside Monster Hunter, they will announce a Wii U exclusive RE. It will do good enough like Revelaitons. Nothing else.
Namco: Now they're buddies with Nintendo, I'm expecting many stuff from them. Dark Souls 2 plus Tales of Xillia 1+2 port for starters.
Konami: Nothing.
SEGA: Sonic Colors 2, Super Monkey Ball U, NiGHTS 3. My dream wish from them is a Total War game for Wii U.
Warner Bros: They're also buddies with Nintendo and unlike others, every game they made will also appear on Wii U.
Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed III-2, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Ghost Recon Online. I'm not sure about Watch Dogs. They won't bother Imagine & petz shovelware with a 60$ price tag.
Activision: Their every multiplat game will appear on Wii U too.
EA: After bombing of ME3, they'll abandon Wii U. Only annual sports games and NfS.
Disney: I Don't think there will be any Disney game around anymore. They will shut down games department next year (once again but this time for good).
2K Games: NBA 2k14 & Carnival Games U. Maybe Dora the Explorer.
Everybody else: Nothing.
2nd Party: Only Bayonetta 2 for fall 2013. Definitely no Dragon Quest X. The series is dead in west and Nintendo will do nothing about it.
3rd Party:
Square-enix: Only a new FFCC game that no one will care about. SE then kill the series after lack of interest. Game will bomb hard. No TR, no other Eidos games.
Capcom: Beside Monster Hunter, they will announce a Wii U exclusive RE. It will do good enough like Revelaitons. Nothing else.
Namco: Now they're buddies with Nintendo, I'm expecting many stuff from them. Dark Souls 2 plus Tales of Xillia 1+2 port for starters.
Konami: Nothing.
SEGA: Sonic Colors 2, Super Monkey Ball U, NiGHTS 3. My dream wish from them is a Total War game for Wii U.
Warner Bros: They're also buddies with Nintendo and unlike others, every game they made will also appear on Wii U.
Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed III-2, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Ghost Recon Online. I'm not sure about Watch Dogs. They won't bother Imagine & petz shovelware with a 60$ price tag.
Activision: Their every multiplat game will appear on Wii U too.
EA: After bombing of ME3, they'll abandon Wii U. Only annual sports games and NfS.
Disney: I Don't think there will be any Disney game around anymore. They will shut down games department next year (once again but this time for good).
2K Games: NBA 2k14 & Carnival Games U. Maybe Dora the Explorer.
Everybody else: Nothing.
Bidermaier
Member
Nintendo fanboys and me included were excited to the idea of Nintendo actually being successful again after gamecube fiasco. I don't know about the rest of u but I was worried about the wii being a fad SPECIALLY AFTER getting one.
with the WiiU the felling is opposite. Miiverse + offscreen gaming + asymmetrical gameplay gives a lot of good vibes. Haters are just that haters.
Angel Whispers
Member
Why not? It was a huge success for them, and some of the most fun had in gaming during the 7th Gen.
I agree with most of this except Fzero and Starfox. I also don't think Disney will die now they have Star Wars along with Marvel I can see them making some games around that.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Why would 3rd parties bother porting games to the WiiU so early in it's life? How many systems will be out there come March? Maybe 3 million or so world wide. And how many of those systems will be owned by people without a 360, PS3 or a PC? Far fewer than 3 million. Risk is super high for all big games now so only safe bets really make any sense. It's not worth porting a game to such a small audience unless it is a proven seller. Look at the multiplatform games the WiiU got, all were huge successes except for Darksiders 2, which was a gamble by THQ. Other than GTAV and maybe Bioshock, none of these other big games for early 2013 are guaranteed hits. No one in their right mind would spend more resources porting a risky game to a new system when they could just play wait and see.
This is why Nintendo should step up and persue this support, as you say there's few incentive to 3rd parties port everything, but Nintendo needs to build a diverse library to bring more users over.
That actually sounds like a pretty decent year to me(though I play multplats on PC so I just look for exclusives) but i don't think that Yoshi will be Retro's game unless they are working on multiple titles given the recruiting they've been doing. I'm also not expecting a new console Pokemon game for the Wii U until the 6th gen games are released.
I'm expecting there to be more exclusives than what you listed from smaller companies and at least one more second party game but that depends on Nintendo.
Yeah, I was too naive thinking it would any different now.
Smiles and Cries
Member
U is for Underdog, the little u that could... This list is optimistic (Dark Souls 2?) but you could be right on.
user base is needed for a lot to take shape beyond the launch window
I think any upcoming Star Wars games will be published under LucasArts name, not Disney Interactive. They won't merge LucasArts with Disney Interactive. Marvel licenses are still belong to other guys, Activision and SEGA.
I think this is a fair assessment. That would represent a decent enough year for me, personally, although I'd say add Mario Kart U/8 to the 2013 list. Especially if the U doesn't set the retail world on fire, and I'm expecting it won't, I expect Nintendo to play the MK card within the first year.
Add some indie games or smaller Nintendo digital titles (similar to how Crashmo appeared) and I think that's a fairly decent opening year.
SpoonyBard
Banned
I think as soon as people get their hands on the system it will sell itself. The new controller is just fantastic. But the whole Wii U concept it harder to sell with a simple tv add than the motion controls for Wii for example, demo units and word of mouth is needed before the system will truly hit mainstream.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I don't think they can justify not porting the main series over anymore either they ignore the Wii U
or port the main series just like everyone else. But another FFCC won't fly alone.
They'll want to release a MK in 2013 too, but they can't, Retro won't be there to boost the development since they will be busy with rushing thier own project (please be Yoshi's Land!). MKU sure is 2014 game.
If it isn't be Crystal Chronicles, it'll be 4 Heroes of Light game, just like Bravely Default, a console spinoff with same developers. Regardless, it'll bomb too. Those stuff are not the games people want from SE. Just give them a regular, well known Final Fantasy experince. I don't know why they're wasting their time and resources with endless and useless spinoffs.
Not if they screw the pooch like they did with Crystal Bearers. So much potential...squandered.
Smiles and Cries
Member
not with the launch they just got. They have very few games out there
Seems fair for the most part, but:
There will be no FFCC - at least not next year. S-E has no manpower to develop anything full steam besides their announced projects. All of it was used to kickstart FFIV again. My guess is that's also the reason why Versus and XHD didn't show up yet. FFXIII LR and I think Eidos ports will come. A little extra revenue with a GOTY edition or late port here and there.
Konami will have PES on the platform.
Namco won't bring Dark Souls II to Wii U. The Team hardly managed to pull of a disastrous port of the first on PC and the game sells good, but not gangbusters. I don't see a Wii U port coming.
And for 2K: I can see Bioshock Infinite on the Wii U. The developer was one of the first to praise the platform during its initial reveal.
dark_prinny
Banned
Sales wise It wont reach Wii numbers, not even close. Games related: Awesome, you'll see.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Unfortunately, I doubt Bayonetta will sell well on the Wii U. Could be wrong though. It just doesn't seem like a game that will appeal to the audience imo.
I think Wii U will sell reasonable well throughout most of 2013, but I am not sure what's going to happen when PS4 and X720 materialize. Not to mention X360 and PS3 will most likely continue to receive most of the same games Wii U procure from third party developers. Nintendo will have to keep those high profile exclusives coming and polish up those multiplatform releases to keep the Wii U's selling. What concerns me is most gamers who want the traditional popular games such as Mass Effect, COD, Batman, etc probably do not see much reason to pick up a Wii U when they are available on the PS3 and X360 with a much bigger library of games.
Dude this is a fantastic year for nintendo standards i do not expect not even half of that
let me recap for a second... you think that next year the wiiu will have (worldwide)
Pikmin
Kirby
Yoshi Land
Fire Emblem
Mario Striker
WiiU Party
WiiU Sports
Excite Truck2
Pokémon Colosseum-like
New Resident Evil
Bayonetta2
Final Fantasy CC
Monster Hunter
Tales of Xillia 1+2
Dark Souls 2
Nights 2
new Sonic
Super Monkey Ball U
Assassin Creed 4 (or whatever they will put out)
Splinter Cell
and more? in 2013?
Nope so much stuff will not come out not even in 3 years
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Catching up with the VGA's this morning, its like the Wii U doesn't exist. Future doesnt look very rosy for the box beyond the usual Nintendo output.
I think Nintendo may have finally fucked up really bad here with how theyve positioned the Wii U.
I think Nintendo may have finally fucked up really bad here with how theyve positioned the Wii U.
I'm not sales savvy enough to comment on the platform's future in that regard. I will say this though, and its going to be a prevalent theme with different titles throughout 2013, Nintendo should have secured Dark Souls II.
From where I'm at sitting, their promise to bring more core oriented third party titles, was a complete lie. If I'm wrong, and they've just not unveiled all this fantastic software support, they are doing themselves no favors holding their cards that close to their chest.
Oh, and locking Bayonetta 2 is completely pointless when you haven't built a foundation for core titles like that to succeed.
From where I'm at sitting, their promise to bring more core oriented third party titles, was a complete lie. If I'm wrong, and they've just not unveiled all this fantastic software support, they are doing themselves no favors holding their cards that close to their chest.
Oh, and locking Bayonetta 2 is completely pointless when you haven't built a foundation for core titles like that to succeed.
Serious question: how does this seem likely? Isn't it a little early to tell?
Well, the problem may not be the Wii U, but simply the way 3rd Parties view Nintendo in general. They were always going to have an uphill battle getting those companies to join. No idea why people think Nintendo can simply wave a magic wand and all of a sudden 3rd Parties would make games for their system. There's a lot of crap they have to deal with, and some of my developer buddies wouldn't even consider putting a game on a Nintendo console and it would take some serious shit for them to change their minds. Good thing for Nintendo that these guys don't run companies, but that doesn't mean the guys who do run the companies would be any easier to convert.
I have a feeling that Nintendo may be seeing exactly how daunting of a task they have to get 3rd parties to jump on board. Perhaps they're simply gearing up to go it alone, because they sure as hell aren't getting any real help from 3rd parties.
I don't know if anything will be as succesful as the DS ever again and doubt that - but yeah, you need to play with it to understand all of it. It's a pretty social console so it'd be the best if you gather some friends around you.
Nintendoland is one of the most underestimated games of all time, like holy shit how wrong I was after the lame E3 reveal.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
I'll put Wii U at 60 million life to date by the time Nintendo's next console launches, give or take 10 million. The PS3 has done at least that well and by most metrics was a relative failure.
Either Wii U or X-Box 3 will be the "winner" of this coming generation; I still believe the cheapest, least powerful console always wins (this has been true for a very long time) and I don't think Microsoft or Sony are willing to go cheaper or less powerful than Nintendo. That said, X-Box has a ton of momentum in the United States and coupled with a cost mitigator like subsidized contracts could eke out a "win."
As far as getting multiplats, there's no good reason it shouldn't (it's unlikely XB3/PS4 are going to be so powerful they are literally out of Wii U's league like this generation with the Wii, and it doesn't cost very much to port a game to Wii U, and quality third party games have shown they can and will be successful on Nintendo hardware), but we'll see. Just because there's no good reason not to do something doesn't mean there aren't bad reasons not to do something and that's sadly what we'll see:
"We really wanted to do something special with the controller!"
"There's no audience!"
"Only Nintendo stuff sells on Nintendo consoles."
"We put Baby Sitterz World Par-Tay and AAA Blockbuster from Two Years Ago out as a test and it sold abysmally, thus proving our preconceived notions about Nintendo hardware."
Either Wii U or X-Box 3 will be the "winner" of this coming generation; I still believe the cheapest, least powerful console always wins (this has been true for a very long time) and I don't think Microsoft or Sony are willing to go cheaper or less powerful than Nintendo. That said, X-Box has a ton of momentum in the United States and coupled with a cost mitigator like subsidized contracts could eke out a "win."
As far as getting multiplats, there's no good reason it shouldn't (it's unlikely XB3/PS4 are going to be so powerful they are literally out of Wii U's league like this generation with the Wii, and it doesn't cost very much to port a game to Wii U, and quality third party games have shown they can and will be successful on Nintendo hardware), but we'll see. Just because there's no good reason not to do something doesn't mean there aren't bad reasons not to do something and that's sadly what we'll see:
"We really wanted to do something special with the controller!"
"There's no audience!"
"Only Nintendo stuff sells on Nintendo consoles."
"We put Baby Sitterz World Par-Tay and AAA Blockbuster from Two Years Ago out as a test and it sold abysmally, thus proving our preconceived notions about Nintendo hardware."
The Hermit
Member
I think a mid term with the Wii, but yeah I don't see it going to change the 3rd party mindset. 360/PS3 as the HD twins is already stabilished and WiiU is too late to the party.
So it´ll be like every Nintendo system since the N64, amazing just for the 1st party games and some exclusives (like Bayo 2 for example, but I think this is the exception rather than the rule)
Thank God the PC is the 3rd and better brother. Still, I might buy a PS3 to play Last of US and Demon's Souls eventually.
No one can or no one can't?
Wii dominated Japan and Wii U is launching along with Monster Hunter, 2D Mario and Dragon Quest X in a few months. And Sony seems to be a bit... "lost" nowadays if we can tell by the Vita success.
Things may change, but I think Wii U has more chances of dominating than PS4. I'm not counting Xbox because lol
Spieler Eins
Member
Hopefully it's going to do bad saleswise, otherwise the future for this thing is grim. It wouldn't be good for any of us if Nintendo get the impression it's okay to start with an underwhelming launch, head straight into a drought and hold back 1st party content for 3rd party support Iwata thinks is strong even though it's obviously abysmal and their job to reach out for them still limits itself to Tecmo only.
Biggest offender is that their excuse for the consoles underwhelming final reveal always was that all the games would make this dubious launch window and now both their ,,biggest'' 1st party titles (W101, P3) actually don't make it anymore and the LTTP Wii Pikmin has to fill gaps in summer, lol. And it's not like that they didn't have time, most of their the Wii efforts since 2011 have been late localizations (Xenoblade) or not been done internally (Project Zero). They need some serious slapping and get their shit together next E3 - I want my Nintendo console to be good, Wii easily had the best exclusives this gen imo but the WiiU looks pretty much the opposite of promising, despite Platinum Games who can only save so much.
Biggest offender is that their excuse for the consoles underwhelming final reveal always was that all the games would make this dubious launch window and now both their ,,biggest'' 1st party titles (W101, P3) actually don't make it anymore and the LTTP Wii Pikmin has to fill gaps in summer, lol. And it's not like that they didn't have time, most of their the Wii efforts since 2011 have been late localizations (Xenoblade) or not been done internally (Project Zero). They need some serious slapping and get their shit together next E3 - I want my Nintendo console to be good, Wii easily had the best exclusives this gen imo but the WiiU looks pretty much the opposite of promising, despite Platinum Games who can only save so much.
Yeah it looks like a rough few months ahead...that Nintendo Direct really reminded me how barren the lineup for the next few quarters is (from a sale PoV at least).
I'm still holding out hope that Nintendo is saving all their big guns to counter MS & Sony's console unveils at E3 this year. Hopefully one of them (3D Mario or Retro game maybe) is ready for Q3/Q4. Nintendo needs a big first party title then. Maybe Mario Kart U is more likely, though.
I'm still holding out hope that Nintendo is saving all their big guns to counter MS & Sony's console unveils at E3 this year. Hopefully one of them (3D Mario or Retro game maybe) is ready for Q3/Q4. Nintendo needs a big first party title then. Maybe Mario Kart U is more likely, though.
The Hermit
Member
I also believe that the WiiU is the last home console from Nintendo, it somehow feels like a transition to portables.
Maybe the next system is a portable that allows connection to TV?
Maybe the next system is a portable that allows connection to TV?
Poor hardware sales doesn't help Nintendo at all.
Impeccable
Member
I bailed out of the Wii early on when it didn't seem to have much of a game-related future.
I'm getting those exact vibes already with the Wii U. I'm not going to touch it until my little girl is older, then I'll collect what I missed.
I'm getting those exact vibes already with the Wii U. I'm not going to touch it until my little girl is older, then I'll collect what I missed.
Spieler Eins
Member
[insert nintendo panic mode meme], etc