Always surprises me people like R1 more than TFA; suppose it really separatee those who favour plot/what is happening over character/why is this happening
By all accounts, it's just the opposite: JJ and Kasdan were only concerned with making TFA, and left it up to Rian and Trevorrow to make up their own stories and close out the trilogy. I'm sure there are some really broad strokes questions like, who are Rey's parents and who/what is Snoke, that JJ has answers for in the back of his head (or maybe he doesn't). But as far as how the trilogy ends, I don't think he'll know until he starts writing this script.
I'm just going by what I've read in this and several other articles. The trilogy of where the characters would go was laid out by Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt according to this article:
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-8/
I'm just going by what I've read in this and several other articles. The trilogy of where the characters would go was laid out by Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt according to this article:
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-8/
It's also an article from 2015, and includes Michael Arndt. We know he didn't work on the final draft of The Force Awakens, and that things have continually changed and shifted with stuff like Fisher dying and Trevorrow being fired. Whatever ideas they had in 2013/14/15 aren't really all that relevant anymore.”We know where we're going, but only in the broadest sense. When Rian came in and started writing his script, he started from scratch, other than knowing what we had done in Episode VII and projecting out where it was going. He then sat down and put pen to paper, and it's 100 percent him."
Damn, that definitely sucks for Paramount. They should pool their resources with Sony and figure some shit out.
Man, JJ is getting a lot of hate. I loved TFA. I think he's gonna do a damn good job on 9 with more freedom.
This is the Rey trilogy. It's Rey's story. You should probably adjust your expectations.My only concern is Luke getting shortchanged. I dont mind him being a fallen, broken man but before this trilogy ends, I want I NEED to see a fully powered Luke Skywalker on screen, kicking some ass.
yeah, it is strange. character writing is night and day between those movies but somehow hopeful music + sadness + goal completion resonates with some people. :/
This is the Rey trilogy. It's Rey's story. You should probably adjust your expectations.
Man, JJ is getting a lot of hate. I loved TFA. I think he's gonna do a damn good job on 9 with more freedom.
This is the Rey trilogy. It's Rey's story. You should probably adjust your expectations.
Fan service complaints will be rampantRegardless of who the trilogy belongs to and I love Rey this is obviously the swansong for most of the original cast and Luke deserves his glory.
I dont care if the scene is brief or if he goes out in a blaze of Skywalker glory but we need to see a fully leveled-up Luke wielding that iconic green lightsaber one last time.
Given that the central thrust of TFA was about finding him, I dont think its unrealistic to expect a payoff at some point.
And if they dont, its a missed opportunity.
Fandom has been clamoring to see Unleashed Luke for decades. Like that Vader scene in Rogue One, it's something we desperately need.
For me it was just more interesting. It showed off a more unique and unseen perspective that we'd only really seen from the games and from side characters that the movies never followed. It managed to make another story about the Death Star seem more exciting than a story only somewhat involving a "Death Star" and otherwise being new
Yeah, the old trio are in these for the fans and because they were important figures in the SW universe, but it isn't their story and they shouldn't be the focus
Fan service complaints will be rampant
I have foreseen it.
Always surprises me people like R1 more than TFA; suppose it really separatee those who favour plot/what is happening over character/why is this happening
lets see....opportunity to direct one of the most important films of all time, or work on a POS for Paramount. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The Wizard of Oz was important.
Citizen Kane was important.
A New Hope was important.
Schindler's List was important.
These films either elevated the art of filmmaking, changed how filmmaking was done, or presented a look at the world in a way we hadn't quite considered before. They touched our hearts, our souls, our humanity, and our imaginations.
Star Wars Episode IX is the latest in Disney's Henry Ford-inspired assembly line for making movies. It's important for Disney shareholders and for Star Wars fans to masturbate (happily or angrily) about for the next decade.
And that's it.
And I say this as someone who liked TFA.
Star Wars Episode IX is the latest in Disneys Henry Ford-inspired assembly line for making movies. Its important for Disney shareholders and for Star Wars fans to masturbate (happily or angrily) about for the next decade.
Always surprises me people like R1 more than TFA; suppose it really separatee those who favour plot/what is happening over character/why is this happening
I also think there's a lot of evidence to counter this "assembly line" perspective.
Do tell.
Do tell.
So because they plan out the release of their films it's an assembly line? Surely our critical thinking skills are capable of more than this
They could have given explicit directions on how the SW episodes were going to turn out and make them as safe as possible. JJ was brought on to make sure the first movie was well made and interesting.
RJ, a guy who makes films that do NOT follow this formula, was given total freedom to do literally whatever he wanted.
TLJ, based on interviews, reports, released info and RJ's filmography, is everything BUT an assembly line film.
Is it assembly line JUST because they're coming out on a steady pace and the quality of the films doesn't factor into it? Because Marvel hasn't released a bad movie in years and the last 2 Star Wars films have been praised by both fans and critics alike.
If there's a franchise that can routinely release movies on the pace of Marvel and Lucasfilm, while not dropping in quality, then I don't see an issue with assembly lining them up.
Do tell.
Calling them ”assembly line" isn't an insult. Ford generally makes quality cars, just as Disney generally makes quality movies.
These films either elevated the art of filmmaking, changed how filmmaking was done, or presented a look at the world in a way we hadn't quite considered before. They touched our hearts, our souls, our humanity, and our imaginations.
"Serpent Society"???
Also I very much like this new production line of Star Wars movies after not getting any at all for so long (Clone Wars doesn't really count).
"Serpent Society"???
Also I very much like this new production line of Star Wars movies after not getting any at all for so long (Clone Wars doesn't really count).
It's really a bad comparison to make. Assembly line assumes mass production of the same thing over and over.
TFA and TLJ will be completely different films with different objectives. As I'm sure TFA and EP9 will be totally different as well.
For example, these things are probably going to be components of TLJ.
And you sure presented the "assembly line" argument as if it were a bad thing.
Films being different doesn't make them not part of an assembly line. A Ford F-150 is much different from a Ford Focus.
My point in saying ”assembly line" is that everything is mapped out far in advance and all they need to do is plug in workers to build it. And if workers don't do what's expected of them, they're replaced (Ant Man, Rogue One, Episode IX, Han Solo...).
The sellable product is more important than the artist behind it.
Again, assembly line movies can be good or even great. But if you really think that even the great Rian Johnson wasn't expendable if he didn't play ball the way Disney wanted him to, I don't know what to tell you. He's making a Star Wars movie that needed to fit well in Disney's Star Wars universe.
It's not going to be high art. And it's not supposed to be. And that's fine.
I mean, did people really think that kiss Rey planted on his cheek was platonic or something?
Besides, it's a moot point,
We all know it's gonna be Rey/Finn/Poe
Do tell.
I don't think you realize how sad this made me. For a second I thought Black Panther was this year, then I remember everything was rearranged because of Spiderman *sigh*
WhatCant wait for another boring Star Wars movie where there arent any space fight scenes
Sony ain't doing amazing but they're in much better shape than Paramount. No one wants to attach themselves to a sinking ship.Damn, that definitely sucks for Paramount. They should pool their resources with Sony and figure some shit out.
Sony ain't doing amazing but they're in much better shape than Paramount. No one wants to attach themselves to a sinking ship.
It was a joke, to hide until the end of the event that Cap 3 would be a Civil War movie.
Ah okay! Sorry I had completely missed the stuff about Serpent Society when that was going on so for a second I thought it was Cap 4 or a cancelled movie heh heh.Civil War was called Serpent Society for a bit to fool people, I think. I remember thinking how disappointing that movie would be thinking it would be based on the comic event.
It's a shape Paramount wishes they were in. As in, not drowning. Just barely floating.Their biggest on lot producer (Neal Moritz) just left to sign for Paramount and their slate co-financing partner (L-Star) dropped out of their contract early because they lost a ton of money on Sony's awful slate of films.
So, no, I wouldn't say much better shape at all.
It's a shape Paramount wishes they were in. As in, not drowning. Just barely floating.