Not much traffic + lesser fuel consumption = serves the purpose.
I mean, if you want to get me a flight on one of those, I would love it.
Most of the time it's just a dinky little Embraer for me.
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How To Be A Good Person On An Airplane
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Not much traffic + lesser fuel consumption = serves the purpose.
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Good thing you travel only for altruistic reasons.
terrisus
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Kids on airplanes are ok, that's what in-ear plugs or noise-cancelling headphones are for. What's not ok is when you're unlucky enough to get seated to a person so large that they take away half of your seat too and you're uncomfortably cramped against the window for eight hours (If you're lucky enough to have the window seat that is!). Airlines should either reseat those people if the plane isn't completely full or (I know this will be an unpopular statement, but so be it) those people should actually pay for two seats if they're large enough to fill them.
Of course not, because nobody takes accountability for themselves anymore. Why inconvienence yourself when you can inconvienence others? Nevermind that you put yourself in that situation.
I'm actually about to go on a Cathay Pacific flight in premium economy in a few weeks and I'm still not fully sure what the differences are. What exactly am I in for?
Weirdest phenomenon I see is his 95% of the plane jumps out if their seat as soon as you stop at your gate.
Even on short 1 hour flights this happens so I know it can't be all from sore butts.
Can be 5-10 minutes until you can actually exit the plane but alas everyone rushes to stand.
Even on short 1 hour flights this happens so I know it can't be all from sore butts.
Can be 5-10 minutes until you can actually exit the plane but alas everyone rushes to stand.
LyleLanley
Banned
More comfortable seats and better service/food. Oh and there's a bathroom just for premium economy so there will be less people trying to use it. It's not a massive improvement over regular economy but it's nice.
True Underdog
Member
I'm in the middle of looking for plane tickets to go to PAX Prime and seeing this image is just making me cringe so hard.
Sort of glad I'm vertically challenged (5'8") so reclining has never really impacted me but damn.
Virgin seemed to have extra leg room but since they moved from DFW to Dallas - Love Field, the ticket prices seem to have gone up.
BomberMouse
Member
People who think it's rude to recline just baffles me. The plane was designed with that functionality in mind. Of course I'd prefer if you didn't but it's fine if you do, I might/might not do the same.
Yeah sure. Come here and pick them up.
Also people who are tall and find it difficult when people recline, travel first class.
Is a great feeling though to relax for a few more minutes before leaving the plane and then catch up with those hurried people at luggage check where you need to wait no matter what.
Goro Majima
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Ironically even though they're smaller, I think the Embraers have one of the safest track records along with the Canadairs.
how can someone be such a grumbly misanthrope and also work on The Sims
I just sit until it's my row's turn.
Give a cold glance at anyone trying to skip which is common.
Definitely worth the upgrade cost. I have traveled two times with them, and it's been pretty good.
Way better than US trashy airlines. Better service/food/interiors.
Credit to landlopers
I like to get up and out ASAP. Its the people who stand immediately but then take their time getting their luggage down/repacking all their shit that piss me off.
Definitely worth the upgrade cost. I have traveled two times with them, and it's been pretty good.
Way better than US trashy airlines. Better service/food/interiors.
That looks delightful. In truth-over here, riding the bus is more comfortable than flying in a plane.
Exactly.
If you're too big for the seats that are designed to be reclining, either take it up to the airlines in question, find a better airline that gives more space, or buy business/first class.
Most people aren't big enough to use size as a reason to ask the person in front not to recline into them. So what are they supposed to do? Just take the punishment and have less space?
You can't call somebody selfish when you are asking them to sacrifice for your sake.
I stand up so I can get my shit ready for when its my rows turn to go and not hold up the rest of the plane.
It's easily worth it on flights over 6 hours. Especially when it comes to countering jet lag. Being able to sleep on a flat bed and freshen up (or even shower, on some airlines) makes a world of difference.
Wider seat, more leg room, more seat recline, food usually derived from the biz class menu, larger IFE screen, better service (lower ratio of passengers to cabin crew)
Too fucking bad. I'm not going to not travel because I have a kid. That said we've been to Barbados, san Diego twice since my 10 month old was born and he's been excellent on every flight.
Also fuck y'all I'm gonna recline my seat if I'm so inclined.
IdreamofHIME
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And if you think they're stopping there, they aren't-these are the future of economy seats on airlines, and this isn't a joke:
On short hauld flights maybe....but not on long hault I dont see that any time soon, not while the commerical airlines are being led by the Arab companies in terms of customer satisfaction and profits. Emirates, Qatar and Ethihad have spent a shit load on new planes and maximizing comfort for all passengers. The Euro and US companies would love these shitty seats, but they're behind in passenger numbers and can't afford to put something so unpopular.
Frankfurter
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Imo this functionality should be removed. I'm not big at all and like 6"1, but it's just getting incredibly uncomfortable once the seat in front of you is reclined.
terrisus
Member
Better watch out, I may take you up on that :þ
Yeah, I don't have any safety concerns about it or anything.
It was just funny.
Especially when a piece of duct tape came loose and a panel fell off
You can do that when it's getting close to your row. There are usually 6 people per row with a single file line out. It's not like there's room for everyone to get up anyways, so those that do are just possibly in the way.
Makes no sense how people act.
I've never immediately stood, never held up the people behind me.
OK, so I was like you for years when I was just flying internationally on long-haul flights with rare layovers (and if there was a layover, there were hours in between flights) so I always just hung out, went for a pee and got on the plane as late as possible.
However, these days I'm doing a fair amount of Canada/US short distance flying which means I'm only taking carry-on luggage and I'm usually having to get off at airports to get another flight with a short period of time between landing and taking off.
So because of this, I found if I get on early there is enough room for my bag in the overhead compartment.
Also, if I'm at the back of the plane sometimes it can take 20 minutes for the plane to exit as every fucker spends 15 minutes trying to put their coat on before they leave the front and so I'm then spent running through O'Hare trying to catch my connection that AA nicely booked 30 minutes after their other flight landed and that was 15 minutes delayed.
So...yeah. It's quite stressful sometimes, especially when it's a work trip and I dont have the luxury of booking my own stuff.
Aren't you the one who chose to travel with dozens of others in a plane?
terrisus
Member
This post is positively drenched in irony.
You aren't understanding me at all.
I never let the people behind me go first.
Never stand right away.
Never hold up the line.
I get up when it's my row's turn or near it.
Trying to decide if this is a Poe's Law ironically-pretending-to-be-oblivious thing or not.
Calamari41
41 > 38
If you're on what amounts to an overnight flight, even though we're following the sun, please don't open up your window deep into the "lights out" time to look at the view. Oooh, wow, it's some ice and clouds from way up high. Was it worth waking up 50 people around you to catch that glimpse?
I was in this situation a few weeks ago and someone a couple of rows up on the other side of the plane opened up his window every hour or so. Like getting blasted in the face with a searchlight while you're trying to sleep in the dark.
I was in this situation a few weeks ago and someone a couple of rows up on the other side of the plane opened up his window every hour or so. Like getting blasted in the face with a searchlight while you're trying to sleep in the dark.
You're right, I wasnt understanding you.
But still, 'people' take fucking ages to get off a plane.
LyleLanley
Banned
This is maddening, especially when they do it more than once. What the hell are they expecting to see?
I've sometimes done that. Sorry.
Typically I'm just bored, cramped and wanting to get out of the plane.
It's weird that having a window seat somehow gives you the impression that you own access to the outside.
Usually if the flight attendants are up they would ask the person in question to close the window.
torre_avenue
Banned
Sartre must have been a fucking prophet when it comes to airplanes. Hell is other people, especially if you're tall and go on long flights. I swear, every flight I'm on, some jackass feels the need to use his seat as a recliner and absolutely crush my knees. The worst part about it is, I can't sleep on flights. Thus, every flight becomes an exercise in the limits of pain for me.
I hate people who recline their seats on flights.
I hate people who recline their seats on flights.
witchedwiz
Member
Sorry but no sorry..
Imagine, i'm flying back from moscow to Milan with a child screaming for half the flight, this after a week of work..
Madness..
If you want to travel with strangers don't be a douche to them by forcing your crying son on them for a 6+ hours flight..
Imho
I sometimes do this so I can get rid of the claustrophobic feeling. I am a window seat guy who never gets up until we land (baring catastrophes)
Sorry but no sorry..
Imagine, i'm flying back from moscow to Milan with a child screaming for half the flight, this after a week of work..
Madness..
If you want to travel with strangers don't be a douche to them by forcing your crying son on them for a 6+ hours flight..
Imho
So what do you do with your kids when you want to travel?
Calamari41
41 > 38
Definitely, but it always seems to be open for ten or fifteen seconds... Enough time to look at the ice on the ground, but not long enough for anyone to do anything about it. It's possible that they go talk to these people after the window is closed again, too. There usually aren't repeat offenders.
Leave a week's worth of food out, and line a corner of the kitchen with pee pads. They'll be fine.
No sympathy for the larger folks behind me, I'm reclining my fucking seat. Perception is a bitch and you will fume upon looking at my stylish watch, fresh haircut, Ray Ban aviators and flashy cloths.
So much so that my appearance and reclined chair will single handedly ruin your day, possibly your entire vacation.
Meanwhile, I'm totally oblivious to you because I'm drunk from ordering cocktails and flustered from flirting with the cute girl beside me.
And as I carry on smoothly, you are dropping luggage all over the poor people next to you, and I'm the culprit for your buffonish behavior, yet I don't have a single clue who you are. So, so long lanky/large guy behind me, hope you are carrying advil for the migraine that will befall you!
So much so that my appearance and reclined chair will single handedly ruin your day, possibly your entire vacation.
Meanwhile, I'm totally oblivious to you because I'm drunk from ordering cocktails and flustered from flirting with the cute girl beside me.
And as I carry on smoothly, you are dropping luggage all over the poor people next to you, and I'm the culprit for your buffonish behavior, yet I don't have a single clue who you are. So, so long lanky/large guy behind me, hope you are carrying advil for the migraine that will befall you!
I am guessing they are all DINK's or SINK's. Even when I was, I never cared. I put on my phones and played my games/watched TV. Never heard them, nor cared when I did.
The saddest one is the baggage claim. People stand right up against the carousel waiting for their bag to come around. But if you're holding back then you gotta shoulder up past folk and then lift the bag and be worried you're going to bop someone standing next to you. Stop crowding that shit! Let the carousel breathe!
Y'all need to step back a good five feet or so. Step up to the carousel when your bag is actually there. Otherwise you're just squatting that prime real estate to waste.
It's such an interesting category of problem. So trivial to fix but so small nobody bothers to think about it. One day I'm going to travel with a soap box and then set it up and preach the Truth to everyone at the baggage claim and they will applaud me and cheer and then spread the good word and soon baggage claims everywhere will be happier more friendly spaces.
Y'all need to step back a good five feet or so. Step up to the carousel when your bag is actually there. Otherwise you're just squatting that prime real estate to waste.
It's such an interesting category of problem. So trivial to fix but so small nobody bothers to think about it. One day I'm going to travel with a soap box and then set it up and preach the Truth to everyone at the baggage claim and they will applaud me and cheer and then spread the good word and soon baggage claims everywhere will be happier more friendly spaces.
Long Term Parking?
Sorry but no sorry..
Imagine, i'm flying back from moscow to Milan with a child streaming after a week of work..
Madness..
If you want to travel with strangers don't be a douche to them by forcing your crying son on them for a 6+ hours flight..
Imho
Hey, asshole. The parents of the crying child are probably not enjoying it either, despite spending weeks/months trying to figure out the best way to prepare their infant child for a flight they know they're going to hate, the kid is going to hate and everyone around them is going to hate.
Typically, if they're on a flight from fucking Russia to Italy with an infant there's probably a better reason than "Hey, we fancy a quick trip to Rome because our infant child will just adore the majestic nature of the place and has a thing for 100-200 AD history"
Just buy a pair of 50 euro headphones that block the noise and enjoy your Michael Crichton novel.
LyleLanley
Banned
Sorry but no sorry..
Imagine, i'm flying back from moscow to Milan with a child screaming for half the flight, this after a week of work..
Madness..
If you want to travel with strangers don't be a douche to them by forcing your crying son on them for a 6+ hours flight..
Imho
Again, what else are people supposed to do with their children? I don't think the idea of waiting until their grown up enough is a reasonable answer either. As for flying from Moscow to Milan, yeah it'll suck a bit with a child on there but get over it. If you're traveling for work just do what the rest of us do and buy some noise cancelling head phones. I've been on countless 14+ hour flights with other peoples children on board and somehow I've made it out fine.
i3allistic
Member
LOL @ people crying about screaming babies on planes ...wait until you have your own kids ....
People just need to learn how to deal with it, we both on the plane for XXX amount of hours and we all trying to be comfortable
People just need to learn how to deal with it, we both on the plane for XXX amount of hours and we all trying to be comfortable
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