shungokusatsu
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SSHD = Sold State Hybrid Drive, which is effectively an HDD/SDD combo and run much cheaper than SSD's.
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How to Install a Hard Drive in a Playstation 4, HDD vs SSD (Video)
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SSHD = Sold State Hybrid Drive, which is effectively an HDD/SDD combo and run much cheaper than SSD's.
Oh crap, yall be right, its a hybrid
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B99JUBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Shouldnt be TOO much slower though right? It shows this at the bottom in the specs:
mentallyinept
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Nope.
SSHD is a Hybrid drive (smaller ssd with a large hdd in one package)
SSD is 100% solid state. No spinning platters.
BloodMoney
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There are SSD which are entirely solid state (the entire drive is uber fast)
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There are SSHD's which have a small portion of solid state capacity which supplements the larger traditional HD platter(s). SSHD's install frequently accessed information on the solid state portion. (a small % of the capacity is uber fast, with the rest operating at traditional HD speeds).
BloodMoney
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Hybrid performance on PS4 is not yet know... which is why I'm waiting to purchased my HD upgrade. It all depends how the PS4 handles data and what is deemed critical by the SSHD. This would normally be cut and dry, but the share functionality adds some complexity to the mix...
on a PC, where lots of the files are windows system stuff that can happily sit in the flash memory cache, so you get almost an SSD performance for those bits.
on a PS4 or xbox one, if you play a game which is multiple gigabytes, depending on how the drive handles the caching, it could flush the cache so it'll always be falling back on the HDD and you'll get no faster speeds than a normal drive.
we'll need some people to benchmark several games to know for sure.
Ill see what I can poop out in terms of proof friday when i gets mine.
BloodMoney
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cool, looking forward to hearing first hand performance impressions.
VibratingDonkey
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Shame high capacity ones cost about as much as the PS4.
Ah, was about to ask which HDD they're comparing to.
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Superblatt
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Can we get some links to 1tb solid state drives GAF recommends?
Just got this for my Macbook Pro. Loving it.
What's the go to 1TB HDD for PS4's? Debating nabbing one on Amazon Prime real quick. Although, do we know what it'll take to back up our data and clone it over if we upgrade later down the line?
jts
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I feel like a broken record.
PS4 has 3 feet. Pushing on the gloss side (the top) will make it wobble.
That's genius. Did Cerny come up with that by himself or did he need help?
Kutaragi must be rolling in his grave.
Apparently people spend more time wobbling than actually using the system. It's not like resolution where it can make a difference. Unless your actively touching your console, this shouldn't be an issue.
If 2.5" and 9.5" you're good to go.
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Revolutionary
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They aren't close at all: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3734/seagates-momentus-xt-review-finally-a-good-hybrid-hdd/6
Pay attention to the breakdown of the gaming workload. It is mostly large sequential reads with some small random reads, which hybrid drives are not good at because sequential reads do not make use of the cache at all and has to go to the platters which simply can't compete with the read speeds of a SSD.
jts
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I was being overly harsh anyway. But when I get a PS4, if this remains the same, I'll have to do some DIY to fix it.
For poor reasons too!
SSHDs probably aren't going to do much. The Seagate drives only have 8GB of solid state storage. That's not even enough to cache a single game. Most data accesses are still going to go to the (slow) platters.
Now, if we can just get the price of SSD down below $0.50/GB at larger capacities....
TheChewyWaffles
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Got my 1GB SSHD on the way from Amazon. Yay. Maybe I should have just ordered a 2GB regular drive.
Sinfamy
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What would you guys recommend more?
A 7200 RPM drive or a 5400 RPM Hybrid drive?
Basically:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B99JUBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Or:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0097LG9U8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Regardless of price.
A 7200 RPM drive or a 5400 RPM Hybrid drive?
Basically:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B99JUBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Or:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0097LG9U8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Regardless of price.
7200RPM drive definitely
Polishin8r
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if people used proper size screw drivers than they wouldn't have problems
Damn what do you plan on doing with all that storage? Store 1000 photos?
Thanks for the info. guys. I've got some learning to do.
Honestly, I doubt there will be much difference between a 7200rpm HDD and an SSHD. SSHD's have a very small amount of actual solid-state memory in them and it's mainly used for caching information that is accessed often. I'm not sure about this year, but last year's SSHD models only had 8GB of this SSD portion on them so it's not really a factor when dealing with console load; and even if it did, in the PS4's case, you're caching WAY more than 8GB of data.
I am wagering that their performance will depend mostly on what rpm the platter portion of the HDD performs at.
Dead Prince
Banned
that will only fit resogun.
Well I ordered the 7200RPM one, so there's that.
graywolf323
Member
either wait for the 2TB 5400 RPM 9.5mm drives or just get a 1TB SSD when they hopefully drop further during Black Friday on Amazon/Newegg/etc.
Wow, $596? LOL, that's expensive as fuck.
Peasant, plz.
Sinfamy
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It doesn't have a separate hard drive container, it requires you remove the entire Xbone in order to have access to it, so they won't.
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