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[KodiakGT]

I personally like the new approach MS is taking, but one thing that is consistently brought up is how they are losing out on 3rd party royalties from PC players as opposed to console. One thing I think people are overlooking is that MSFT is more than willing to trade off said royalties if it means getting more people on Win10. These former Xbox exclusives that are now Win10 exclusive are another incentive for gamers to make the switch.

In addition to a new revenue stream from the Win10 store (although I think that will be minimal until they drastically improve the storefront) they also get advertising $$ every year for each Win10 user.

 

[DarkConfidant]

Hypothetical question: Say MS is successful at launching all 1st party xb1 IPs on Windows 10.

Woah! Successful? Alright, let's imagine that.

This move steals some thunder away from the PS4.

......why? How? Hypothetical doesn't mean unreasonable.
Ports of games have never been a "thunder stealer".
You mind as well ask us to imagine the sky purple.
It's just too dramatic of a leap to be still reasonable.

What would Sony do to gain back the fans that made the switch to xb1 and PC?

Well, seeing as people apparently gave up a healthy, well supported console for ports, that only required 1 of the 2 platforms that they apparently bought into, I'd assume Sony would just need to wave a steak-shaped squeaky toy, whistle, and then they'd come running back.

PS4 games exclusive to Ubuntu.

This is the best idea, as a bizarre hypothetical calls for an equally bizarre solution. Bravo!

Btw, I'm a Sony, MS, Nintendo, Apple fanboy, so it doesn't matter who wins.

Phew. Glad you're a "fanboy" of every possible player, and Apple as well, or otherwise it might matter who won in their bizarre, unprecedented scenario of people leaving a successful gaming platform mid-generation for ports of games on PC, that actually nullifies the need for the Xbox that they are leaving said successful platform for for.
That's a load off my mind.

Spoiler

tl;dr none of this happens, Sony doesn't need to counter it, because they don't have to. Sony wins by continuing to sell more hardware and games. Microsoft also wins by selling more software to PC gamers that may have been to cautious to pull the trigger on buying an Xbox that's weaker than their gaming rigs. Apple and Nintendo win by being mentioned in this thread to begin with, since all publicity is good publicity.

 

[flkraven]

As a PC and PS4 player, this hurts Xbox more than anyone. Why would Sony give two shits about this?

Hell, I was contemplating an Xbox One for FH3. Not anymore. So instead of the Xbox community gaining a player, I will just stick to PC. The Xbox community will without a doubt shrink because of this. Microsoft will still see benefit because of the Windows 10 Store, but Xbox will suffer because of it.

Meanwhile Sony is over in a corner with their 2-1 sales lead saying..."Send out God of War, Last Guardian, Horizon, Kojima and Spiderman. Oh, and tell Marvel thanks for their long term partnership to create a gaming universe".

Again, why would Sony care?

I don't think you understand how this works.

Instead of someone like you 'contemplating buying an Xbox One for FH3', you can just buy FH3 on PC. They typically make very little on console sales, so they are still making money from you. And you are much more likely to plunk down $60 for FH3 rather than $300 + $60 for the console + game. On top of that, you will make a free Xbox Live account so you can play in their ecosystem, and you will play it in their Xbox store with other PC and Xbox gamers. "The Xbox community will without a doubt shrink because of this." - Got a news flash for you, this means you're more likely to join the Xbox community, thus making it bigger.

Xbox makes no money when you 'contemplate' something, but now you are more likely to spend cash and join the Xbox ecosystem. They are hoping that in turn, you will be more likely to buy more games within the ecosystem, get achievements, build a friends list, etc.

 

[Obscuritas]

Microsoft gets the console exclusive of Titanfall - Your move, Sony

Microsoft removes Kinect - Your move, Sony

Microsoft puts Xbox on fire sales during the holiday - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces the best Xbox line up ever - Your move, Sony

Microsoft welcomes cross-platform multiplayer - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Xbox Play Anywhere - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Scorpio - Your move, Sony

PS4 sales pass 40 million milestone sold-through - Your move, Sony

 

[Night Angel]

Lmao people still don't realize that Xbox is switching from a product platform to a service one now. The writing has been on the wall for a while now, the entirety of Microsoft focusing on a service platform, MAU reports which get made fun of. Plugging your ears "lalalalalalalala I'm not listening" saying they're just using MAU to hide their numbers. Announcing Scorpio while trying to sell you a Slim, they clearly stopped giving a shit about hardware.

Many people understand this but also think it's a bad idea that won't work out for them. They've strengthened the PC as a platform for gaming, not just the Windows store. People will buy Xbox exclusives from the windows store and nothing else. At the same time, they stand to lose people buying their consoles, Live, and accessories. It doesn't seem like a clear cut win for MS to me.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Pretty funny, no matter what MS does in the PC market they get the hate from a lot of people here.

They don't release their games on PC, only on Xbox: they're so evil, because they hate PC gamers.

Now they release their games also on PC and it's: those idiots just doomed their Xbox division, because nobody will buy an Xbox ever again (yeah right).

Meanwhile Sony completely ignores PC gamers and that's no problem at all?

Its different people saying those two things though. Many people for their own reasons aren't fond of MS's practices.

 

[flkraven]

I mean, I see plenty of people asking the questions like 'How many people own multiple consoles?' and then proceed to say PS4 + PC is the way to go. Instead, how about the question 'How many people own gaming PCs?' because, anecdotally, everyone I play with on my console friend's list does not.

 

[Formosa]

Amount of PS4 console sold is almost DOUBLE how much Xbox One has sold.

Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-vs-xbox-...4-consoles-have-been-sold-2013-launch-2361021

 

[gafneo]

These are flawed analogies because the latter items you list don't render the former items redundant.

Your understanding is flawed. People buy for alternatives. Some want a gaming only system that seperates work and play, other times they want an all in one experience.

 

[flkraven]

Amount of PS4 console sold is almost DOUBLE how much Xbox One has sold.

Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-vs-xbox-...4-consoles-have-been-sold-2013-launch-2361021

Honestly, I'm convinced that Microsoft could say tomorrow that the new Xbox costs $1 and every game released for it is free, and this is the level of rebuttal/discussion that would take place when discussing how Sony would respond.

 

[Papacheeks]

Many people understand this but also think it's a bad idea that won't work out for them. They've strengthened the PC as a platform for gaming, not just the Windows store. People will buy Xbox exclusives from the windows store and nothing else. At the same time, they stand to lose people buying their consoles, Live, and accessories. It doesn't seem like a clear cut win for MS to me.

Them going this route is because they fucked up their console and library royally over the past 10 or so years.

Someone else posted earlier that slowly their exclusives are not selling well, and the ones that are their bread winners are declining. And they think putting them on a closed storefront will help mitigate that, which could go either way. But so far their PC vision is off to a shit start, and depending on what scorpio does, could mean serious things could be happening to the brand all together on the console front.

I think this cross platform change they are doing is to mitigate their failing console business. If you look at it, the 360, intro to xblive and first couple years of xbox one were their biggest success's over their 16 or so years in the business. And they never really made any long term investments with exclusives from other studios like they started out with lucas art's, ensemble.

It's all going to depend how this plays out and how the market reacts to scorpio.

 

[gafneo]

They don't need to counter anything, at least for now. No one gives a flying fuck about Xbox Play Anywhere.

As a company, they don't wait until their ship gets rammed. They make a contingency plan in the case the move were to effect them. They could have even made a plan before Phill touted the concept. The industry has a lot internal word of mouth about behind the scenes developtment. Some have incite, others keep things strickly confidencial.

 

[Night Angel]

As a company, they don't wait until their ship gets rammed. They make a contingency plan in the case the move were to effect them. They could have even made a plan before Phill touted the concept. The industry has a lot internal word of mouth about behind the scenes developtment. Some have incite, others keep things strickly confidencial.

Oh...kay. Their contingency plan is probably to keep succeeding. Watch as MS's plans make them less relevant of a direct competitor. Print money with the PS4. Etc.

 

[LordofPwn]

Hypothetical question: Say MS is successful at launching all 1st party xb1 IPs on Windows 10. This move steals some thunder away from the PS4. What would Sony do to gain back the fans that made the switch to xb1 and PC?

Btw, I'm a Sony, MS, Nintendo, Apple fanboy, so it doesn't matter who wins.

There's a lot of PC games i miss out on by only having a PS4, WiiU, and Mac. now Xbox One games are included in that group. why should I buy an Xbox One now? I'm better off finally getting a PC.

Also the whole "play anywhere" slogan MS is using right now is dumb. you can play on your xbox or on your PC in the other room, unless you have a laptop then eh.

With Playstation they had the whole Cross-buy/play with PS4/Vita/PS3 for some titles and with remote play i can also play my PS4 games on a laptop, PS Vita, or a phone, from anywhere as long as there is a strong enough internet connection.

I remember when watchdogs came out i actually had to go on a business trip to Chicago and i played watchdogs on my vita in my hotel room in Chicago, while my PS4 was a few hundred miles away.

 

[gafneo]

Oh...kay. Their contingency plan is probably to keep succeeding. Watch as MS's plans make them less relevant of a direct competitor. Print money with the PS4. Etc.

Ever play chess? What happens when a player repeats the same moves, over and over?

 

[Night Angel]

Ever play chess? What happens when a player repeats the same moves, over and over?

Sick analogy, man. I mean, it's meaningless to the discussion we're having, but damn.

 

[InsaneTiger]

Ever play chess? What happens when a player repeats the same moves, over and over?

WTF? Sony isn't standing still or repeating the same move. Bottom line: Sony doesn't need to bring first party exclusives to PC to succeed or in your case, counter MS.

 

[TetraGenesis]

Sick analogy, man. I mean, it's meaningless to the discussion we're having, but damn.

Hahahahahahaha

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Sick analogy, man. I mean, it's meaningless to the discussion we're having, but damn.

Perfect.

 

[gafneo]

Sick analogy, man. I mean, it's meaningless to the discussion we're having, but damn.

The answer is, the moves become too predictable. Therefore, the other player can learn their strategy and beat them at their own game.

Anything becomes meaningless if you choose not to think and take the boring brush off approach in an argument.

 

[MarineMountie]

I don't think you understand how this works.

Instead of someone like you 'contemplating buying an Xbox One for FH3', you can just buy FH3 on PC. They typically make very little on console sales, so they are still making money from you. And you are much more likely to plunk down $60 for FH3 rather than $300 + $60 for the console + game. On top of that, you will make a free Xbox Live account so you can play in their ecosystem, and you will play it in their Xbox store with other PC and Xbox gamers. "The Xbox community will without a doubt shrink because of this." - Got a news flash for you, this means you're more likely to join the Xbox community, thus making it bigger.

Xbox makes no money when you 'contemplate' something, but now you are more likely to spend cash and join the Xbox ecosystem. They are hoping that in turn, you will be more likely to buy more games within the ecosystem, get achievements, build a friends list, etc.

And I dont think you understood what I was saying. Xbox community is more than just a few exclusives. Some people are selling xbox and just going with PC or PS4 or both since they no longer have exclusives. When I am done with Forza, I am playing something else that isnt on Xbox. I am no longer part of that community. When I boot up Battlefield 1, I wont be part of the xbox community. I could be if they care about exclusives and wanting people to own the xbox brand, but they dont.

Seeing a shrinking population is not something that I want. Giving people less of a reason to own an xbox is not what I want. I want both xbox and Playstation to do great because competition is very much needed. If multiplayer populations are trash tier low a month after a game releases...who wants to be part of that?

If I know 7 friends that now have absolutley no interest in the console because of this, other people have 7 friends that feel the same. That adds up, and the population disparity in multiplayer games will show over time because of this direction. This affects 3rd party devs on xbox. It sure as hell does.

 

[gafneo]

WTF? Sony isn't standing still or repeating the same move. Bottom line: Sony doesn't need to bring first party exclusives to PC to succeed or in your case, counter MS.

My point was that they wouldn't sit back.

 

[Shifty1897]

My point was that they wouldn't sit back.

Business is not chess. If people want the best first party games and Sony keeps making them better than Microsoft's, then yes, they can do the same move over and over and still win.

 

[flkraven]

And I dont think you understood what I was saying. Xbox community is more than just a few exclusives. Some people are selling xbox and just going with PC or PS4 or both since they no longer have exclusives. When I am done with Forza, I am playing something else that isnt on Xbox. I am no longer part of that community. When I boot up Battlefield 1, I wont be part of the xbox community. I could be if they care about exclusives and wanting people to own the xbox brand, but they dont.

Seeing a shrinking population is not something that I want. Giving people less of a reason to own an xbox is not what I want. I want both xbox and Playstation to do great because competition is very much needed. If multiplayer populations are trash tier low a month after a game releases...who wants to be part of that?

If I know 7 friends that now have absolutley no interest in the console because of this, other people have 7 friends that feel the same. That adds up, and the population disparity in multiplayer games will show over time because of this direction. This affects 3rd party devs on xbox. It sure as hell does.

Do you own an Xbox One?

 

[Mendax]

My point was that they wouldn't sit back.

but they could, now more than ever

 

[inner-G]

Releasing exclusives on another platform makes them no longer 'exclusive'.

Sony has no reason to do this.

Ever play chess? What happens when a player repeats the same moves, over and over?

You mean like a Sicilan Defense or a Ruy Lopez?

 

[gafneo]

Business is not chess. If people want the best first party games and Sony keeps making them better than Microsoft's, then yes, they can do the same move over and over and still win.

Business/Chess
http://www.salvadorbriggman.com/business-like-chess/

 

[MarineMountie]

Do you own an Xbox One?

Deflecting. Im talking about people thinking of getting the console like I was for FH3. Talking about the people selling and trading in their xbox one's if they have a PC.

 

[wapplew]

Microsoft gets the console exclusive of Titanfall - Your move, Sony

Microsoft removes Kinect - Your move, Sony

Microsoft puts Xbox on fire sales during the holiday - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces the best Xbox line up ever - Your move, Sony

Microsoft welcomes cross-platform multiplayer - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Xbox Play Anywhere - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Scorpio - Your move, Sony

PS4 sales pass 40 million milestone sold-through - Your move, Sony

Something Sony did for ages, MS is yet again, lttp.

 

[AudioEppa]

Microsoft gets the console exclusive of Titanfall - Your move, Sony

Microsoft removes Kinect - Your move, Sony

Microsoft puts Xbox on fire sales during the holiday - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces the best Xbox line up ever - Your move, Sony

Microsoft welcomes cross-platform multiplayer - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Xbox Play Anywhere - Your move, Sony

Microsoft announces Scorpio - Your move, Sony

PS4 sales pass 40 million milestone sold-through - Your move, Sony

First, this got me laughing so hard because it's so true.

Second, I don't remember, but was this whole "your move" talk aimed at MS when Sony was creeping up on them in the later years of last gen?

 

[4Tran]

Lmao people still don't realize that Xbox is switching from a product platform to a service one now. The writing has been on the wall for a while now, the entirety of Microsoft focusing on a service platform, MAU reports which get made fun of. Plugging your ears "lalalalalalalala I'm not listening" saying they're just using MAU to hide their numbers. Announcing Scorpio while trying to sell you a Slim, they clearly stopped giving a shit about hardware.

I don't think there's anyone who doesn't get that Microsoft is changing their focus. But while Microsoft is trying to characterize it as a lateral shift to Xbox as a service, that's not what's happening. The reality is that Microsoft has decided to sacrifice their market position in Xbox in favor of promoting the Windows 10 Store. This might have beneficial effects for Microsoft as a whole, but not for Xbox in particular.

Them going this route is because they fucked up their console and library royally over the past 10 or so years.

Someone else posted earlier that slowly their exclusives are not selling well, and the ones that are their bread winners are declining. And they think putting them on a closed storefront will help mitigate that, which could go either way. But so far their PC vision is off to a shit start, and depending on what scorpio does, could mean serious things could be happening to the brand all together on the console front.

I think that this move is somewhat influenced by the Xbone's inability to expand Microsoft's position in the console market, but the bigger deal is that the greater Micosoft doesn't really care about the console market any more. It doesn't hold any strategic position, so why not repurpose it to cheerlead for a more promising venture?

It's all going to depend how this plays out and how the market reacts to scorpio.

Scorpio shows that Microsoft hasn't given up on Xbox altogether. However, I suspect that the whole division is on a short leash, and there will be consequences if both it and Xbox Anywhere don't perform.

 

[AmuroChan]

How would this steal from Xbox when MS is the one making the money?

They make money on first party games locked behind Win10, but they're going to lose revenue on 3rd party games. When I buy Call of Duty on XB1, Microsoft gets a cut of that. If I buy COD on Steam, they don't get a dime of that. That is their challenge with the PC landscape right now. They can lock their 1st party games behind Win10, but with everything else they still don't have a good answer for Steam yet.

 

[Bravoexo]

having that new controller with bluetooth just unlocked something sweet... playing your xbox games anywhere in the house. Before only with another PC coz u need a xbox controller, now just plug a win10 stick on TV, and pair a new controller, u can stream and play

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Deflecting. Im talking about people thinking of getting the console like I was for FH3. Talking about the people selling and trading in their xbox one's if they have a PC.

Or people like me who have all three consoles, but am considering selling my X1 (and maybe my N3DSXL and Vita) to put toward a gaming PC. I'd love to play the Forza games with my PS4/PC thrustmaster wheel.

No threat to Sony as I'm keeping my PS4, and maybe getting Neo, as I don't want to miss Horizon, Naughty Dog games, GT Sport and other exclusives. Same with Nintendo.

Only impact to Sony I guess would be less cut for a lot of third party games as I'd buy most on PC (other than ones I wanted to play online with my friends on PS4).

 

[gogosox82]

I don't see how it steals thunder from Sony. If anything, it steals thunders from xbone since you could get a gaming pc and then get a ps4 and get all the exclusives. What exactly is the incentive to get a xbone if I have a gaming pc and they are going to put all their exclusives out on pc?

 

[InsaneTiger]

They make money on first party games locked behind Win10, but they're going to lose revenue on 3rd party games. When I buy Call of Duty on XB1, Microsoft gets a cut of that. If I buy COD on Steam, they don't get a dime of that. That is their challenge with the PC landscape right now. They can lock their 1st party games behind Win10, but with everything else they still don't have a good answer for Steam yet.

I'm surprised OP hasn't realized this yet, Windows 10 is not a closed platform, the WinStore is closed and they make money off that but the PC is open to Steam and GoG, platforms MS makes no money on.

 

[icespide]

Or people like me who have all three consoles, but am considering selling my X1 (and maybe my N3DSXL and Vita) to put toward a gaming PC. I'd love to play the Forza games with my PS4/PC thrustmaster wheel.

No threat to Sony as I'm keeping my PS4, and maybe getting Neo, as I don't want to miss Horizon, Naughty Dog games, GT Sport and other exclusives. Same with Nintendo.

Only impact to Sony I guess would be less cut for a lot of third party games as I'd buy most on PC (other than ones I wanted to play online with my friends on PS4).

I think Microsoft is totally okay with that, because you'll still be buying games on their ecosystem (windows store on your PC) and whoever you sell your Xboner too will be a new person buying games in their ecosystem

 

[thenexus6]

Counter it with what? They don't have another platform to counter with.

The cross buy, play, and save between PS3 and Vita is still on going for select titles.

 

[dakilla13]

Or people like me who have all three consoles, but am considering selling my X1 (and maybe my N3DSXL and Vita) to put toward a gaming PC. I'd love to play the Forza games with my PS4/PC thrustmaster wheel.

No threat to Sony as I'm keeping my PS4, and maybe getting Neo, as I don't want to miss Horizon, Naughty Dog games, GT Sport and other exclusives. Same with Nintendo.

Only impact to Sony I guess would be less cut for a lot of third party games as I'd buy most on PC (other than ones I wanted to play online with my friends on PS4).

You are in the vast minority though. Play Anywhere means Microsoft makes money off of PC gamers that would not have been able to buy Xbox exclusives otherwise. It's a win-win scenario for gamers and Microsoft.

Remember, hardware margins are razor thin as opposed to software margins. Ultimately, Microsoft wants to sell more software.

 

[AgentP]

I'm surprised OP hasn't realized this yet, Windows 10 is not a closed platform, the WinStore is closed and they make money off that but the PC is open to Steam and GoG, platforms MS makes no money on.

And posters like etta should realize this. Win 10 for MS is not a total win, it is effort to scrape up revenue due to poor sales on XB1. If XB1 was top dog they would have no interest in Windows just like last gen.

 

[gafneo]

I'm surprised OP hasn't realized this yet, Windows 10 is not a closed platform, the WinStore is closed and they make money off that but the PC is open to Steam and GoG, platforms MS makes no money on.

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

 

[Caayn]

Also isn't it pretty narrow-minded to think that they're killing their Xbox division with this move? As if every person in this world a) has the knowledge to build his own gaming rig for a price that's comparable to a current gen console and/or b) even WANTS to play on a PC.

You forget to add that in Neo and Scorpio threads people say that not everyone wants to game on PC when talking about power. But suddenly in this thread everyone wants to play on PC.

Note for the sensitive people: Not saying anything about a hive-mind of some sorts and neither do I claim that they're the same people posting, just giving voice to an observation I made.

 

[icespide]

You forget to add that in Neo and Scorpio threads people say that not everyone wants to game on PC when talking about power. But suddenly in this thread everyone wants to play on PC.

it's almost like different people post in different threads and have different opinions

 

[Night Angel]

it's almost like different people post in different threads and have different opinions

You stop that shit right now. You know neogaf is a Sony hivemind where anything positive about the Xbox is immediately banned.

 

[4Tran]

You are in the vast minority though. Play Anywhere means Microsoft makes money off of PC gamers that would not have been able to buy Xbox exclusives otherwise. It's a win-win scenario for gamers and Microsoft.

Remember, hardware margins are razor thin as opposed to software margins. Ultimately, Microsoft wants to sell more software.

Microsoft is also taking in PC gamers who had plans to buy an Xbone as well. And really, having your own platform is all about royalties, not by earning margin off of hardware.

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

What Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere though? It's not as if anyone other than Microsoft has any incentive to promote the Windows 10 Store.

 

[InsaneTiger]

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

When I am already gaming on PC and I can now buy MS published titles from the WinStore, what incentive do I have to buy an Xbox?

 

[Breads]

People do not like buying games through the windows store. So there is that.

 

[icespide]

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

am I missing something or did you not actually give a reason why 3rd party would want to release on Windows Store instead of steam?

 

[gafneo]

And posters like etta should realize this. Win 10 for MS is not a total win, it is effort to scrape up revenue due to poor sales on XB1. If XB1 was top dog they would have no interest in Windows just like last gen.

There is a lot of reasons. Broadens VR adoption, unifies markets, transitions console gamers towards future PCs knowing that the specs are going to need to significantly expand to have 8K, 60fps, lag free dashboards, memory, Hololense, a proper Kinect, unrevealed future tech.

 

[gafneo]

When I am already gaming on PC and I can now buy MS published titles from the WinStore, what incentive do I have to buy an Xbox?

Maybe you don't, but a lot of people will have a bit more freedom for flexibility. I'm guessing you are a hardcore PC gamer that upgrades. This Xb1 windows 10 colab is testing waters for consumers.