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[InsaneTiger]

Maybe you don't, but a lot of people will have a bit more freedom for flexibility. I'm guessing you are a hardcore PC gamer that upgrades. This Xb1 windows 10 colab is testing waters for consumers.

I'm not but I am saying if already do game on PC, you have zero incentive to play on Xbox.

Microsoft cares about how much money it makes on the WinStore and Xbox Store. It doesn't care where you play. But if I game on Xbox, every game I buy, MS gets a cut of every game. On PC, it's only making money from the WinStore, while Steam has a much bigger library of games and even some games already sold on WinStore. Basically, MS will make more money off an Xbox-only gamer than a PC-only gamer.

 

[flkraven]

Deflecting. Im talking about people thinking of getting the console like I was for FH3. Talking about the people selling and trading in their xbox one's if they have a PC.

Not deflecting. I was talking about you specifically lol. You're the one moving the goal posts. You don't own an Xbox One now, 3 years after it is launched, but you have a capable gaming PC. So you would now be more likely to spend money within the Xbox ecosystem.

Saying the some people is will sell their Xboxes in favor of PCs is irrelevant without also discussing how many non-xbox owners would be more likely to buy into the Xbox ecosystem on PC. Impossible to tell right now, so that's why I targeted you specifically.

 

[boredandlazy]

People do not like buying games through the windows store. So there is that.

Well, the reason most people seem to bring up for that is that the Windows store in its current state is almost the antithesis of what playing on a PC stands for (open platform etc.)
I doubt the people who feel that strongly about it will go out and buy an Xbox to play a few games.

 

[Night Angel]

Well, the reason most people seem to bring up for that is that the Windows store in its current state is almost the antithesis of what playing on a PC stands for (open platform etc.)
I doubt the people who feel that strongly about it will go out and buy an Xbox to play a few games.

Hey there. I have an Xbox and also am currently boycotting UWP. AMA!

 

[gafneo]

I'm not but I am saying if already do game on PC, you have zero incentive to play on Xbox.

Microsoft cares about how much money it makes on the WinStore and Xbox Store. It doesn't care where you play. But if I game on Xbox, every game I buy, MS gets a cut of every game. On PC, it's only making money from the WinStore, while Steam has a much bigger library of games and even some games already sold on WinStore. Basically, MS will make more money off an Xbox-only gamer than a PC-only gamer.

They will make more money off you from their IPs that you wouldn't have bought since you were on the fence too long to buy a console. Still not a gain from you buying Steam games. Casual PC enthusiasts will buy that 3rd party without thinking twice of Steam because they buy Indie bundles and Steam sales only. They think, cool. I rather play on XBX1 most of the time because all of my friends are on this thing, but now I can play with my cousins who are steam only who are forced to buy the Xbox anywhere copy if they want to crossplay and save.

 

[4Tran]

Well, the reason most people seem to bring up for that is that the Windows store in its current state is almost the antithesis of what playing on a PC stands for (open platform etc.)
I doubt the people who feel that strongly about it will go out and buy an Xbox to play a few games.

There can be any number of reasons for people to dislike using the Windows 10 Store though. And even the narrow group that you bring up may well decide to pick up an Xbone. It wouldn't be surprising if a number of this group already has one, or a PS4 (or a Wii U) for that matter.

They will make more money off you from their IPs that you wouldn't have bought since you were on the fence too long to buy a console. Still not a gain from you buying Steam games. Casual PC enthusiasts will buy that 3rd party without thinking twice of Steam because they buy Indie bundles and Steam sales only. They think, cool. I rather play on XBX1 most of the time because all of my friends are on this thing, but now I can play with my cousins who are steam only who are forced to buy the Xbox anywhere copy if they want to crossplay and save.

You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere.

 

[icespide]

They will make more money off you from their IPs that you wouldn't have bought since you were on the fence too long to buy a console.

how?

 

[eso76]

With Vita Nowhere.

Seriously though, remote play is great and i don't see play anywhere making millions jump fences. It's nice, but not game changing.

 

[gafneo]

There can be any number of reasons for people to dislike using the Windows 10 Store though. And even the narrow group that you bring up may well decide to pick up an Xbone. It wouldn't be surprising if a number of this group already has one, or a PS4 (or a Wii U) for that matter.


You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere.

What do you mean? Steam games you already own? Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?

 

[Glorified G]

Microsoft is also taking in PC gamers who had plans to buy an Xbone as well. And really, having your own platform is all about royalties, not by earning margin off of hardware.

What were those PC gamers going to do with an Xbox One? Buy third party games that is already available & superior on their preferred platform? Buy an Xbox Live sub when they're used to gaming online for free on PC?

This whole initiative from MS is to make it easier to get their money off of PC gamers. Instead of MS risking PC gamers buying additional hardware that is closed down & doesn't share the strengths of their preferred platform just to play a handful of games, they have now made it easier for PC gamers to buy their first party software.

 

[gafneo]

how?

If you are not planning on buying a console, those PC anywhere titles that are now going to be available have a higher chance of being sold to you.

 

[icespide]

If you are not planning on buying a console, those PC anywhere titles that are now going to be available have a higher chance of being sold to you.

but for publishers that were already on PC anyway, what incentive do they have to offer play anywhere instead of just staying on steam?

 

[gafneo]

What were those PC gamers going to do with an Xbox One? Buy third party games that is already available & superior on their preferred platform? Buy an Xbox Live sub when they're used to gaming online for free on PC?

This whole initiative from MS is to make it easier to get their money off of PC gamers. Instead of MS risking PC gamers buying additional hardware that is closed down & doesn't share the strengths of their preferred platform just to play a handful of games, they have now made it easier for PC gamers to buy their first party software.

Those PC gamers will either talk about master race nonsense or buy an Xbox1 to go in their family living room, reducing their isolated experiences.

 

[gafneo]

but for publishers that were already on PC anyway, what incentive do they have to offer play anywhere instead of just staying on steam?

They should remain on Steam, use anywhere as yet another way to make money and build an even larger install base for both PC and console.

 

[Chronospherics]

The theoretical end-game for the video game biz is often argued to be with cloud computation - distribution of gaming services through a networked environment wherein your local hardware doesn't need to perform the heavy lifting - we just lack the networking resources and technology to perfect this platform, at the moment.

I imagine, as we move forward, more and more gaming services will be orientated towards this style of gameplay, and Playstation is well positioned to be a big provider of those services, with their exclusive games and Playstation now.

I imagine Sony's own hardware will continue to remain the home of their experienced but gradually, consumers on other platforms will be able to get a taste of what Playstation has to offer through cloud based services. This is directly comparable to XBOX Anywhere, allowing consumers to continue experience Playstation games, regardless of their hardware platform.

Significantly, Playstation Now has the capacity for far greater reaching market penetration than XBOX Anywhere, as these cloud based services can run on any hardware that can render video, with networking capabilities. PS Now has the capacity to be available on every platform from a Linux running Rasberry Pi, to iPhone's. The caveat of course is that this is all contingent on Sony's intentions - do they want their experiences to be available anywhere? and the technology this cloud based platform is built upon.

 

[flkraven]

What were those PC gamers going to do with an Xbox One? Buy third party games that is already available & superior on their preferred platform? Buy an Xbox Live sub when they're used to gaming online for free on PC?

This whole initiative from MS is to make it easier to get their money off of PC gamers. Instead of MS risking PC gamers buying additional hardware that is closed down & doesn't share the strengths of their preferred platform just to play a handful of games, they have now made it easier for PC gamers to buy their first party software.

This is a great point. If you were a PC gamer before, the only reason you had to own an xbox was for the 10-15 exclusive games on the platform bc all of your multiplats should have been theoretically purchase on PC. How many of these forward-thinking PC gamers were shelling out money for XBL gold? If anything, the only downside to MS seems to be that these guys won't buy hardware and will instead buy software on PC, while microsft now gets access to all of the people that want the XB exclusives but weren't willing to shell out for the console.

The biggest negative effect for Microsoft would be if this pushes life-long Xbox gamers to stop buying consoles, let their live subscription lapse, and build a gaming rig, but we only have anecdotal evidence about how that will impact them.

 

[Wickerbasket]

They should remain on Steam, use anywhere as yet another way to make money and build an even larger install base for both PC and console.

I'm not seeing how this is an attractive proposition to publishers. Why would they offer you the PC version for free if they could sell you it again on Steam?

Microsoft would need to offer some sort of financial inventive if they want publishers to jump on board.

 

[flkraven]

I'm not seeing how this is an attractive proposition to publishers. Why would they offer you the PC version for free if they could sell you it again on Steam?

Microsoft would need to offer some sort of financial inventive if they want publishers to jump on board.

We have no idea what Microsoft is negotiating behind the scenes. Maybe they reduce their 'cut' if Play Anywhere is offered? Who knows.

 

[Mass Effect]

Woah! Successful? Alright, let's imagine that.

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This is an underappreciated post.

I'm not but I am saying if already do game on PC, you have zero incentive to play on Xbox.

Microsoft cares about how much money it makes on the WinStore and Xbox Store. It doesn't care where you play. But if I game on Xbox, every game I buy, MS gets a cut of every game. On PC, it's only making money from the WinStore, while Steam has a much bigger library of games and even some games already sold on WinStore. Basically, MS will make more money off an Xbox-only gamer than a PC-only gamer.

I think this is a point a lot of people seem to miss. Who's going to be a move valuable consumer to MS, someone who buys an Xbox, pays $60 a year for XBL Gold, and buys all their games their games on the system or someone who occasionally buys an MS exclusive from the W10 store? True, Microsoft is getting money either way, but they're getting a lot more in one scenario over the other.

But on the other hand, I doubt MS isn't aware of this. The potential reach of the W10 store to people or regions that they could never make ground with the Xbox on probably outweighs those who are willing to forgo the Xbox for PC like some on GAF are doing, and that's what Microsoft is banking on. I doubt Xbox's sales will be affected in a significant way by this move, so in the end it will most likely end up being a net positive for Microsoft. But who knows if it will be as successful as MS wants it to be. That's the real question.

 

[gafneo]

I'm not seeing how this is an attractive proposition to publishers. Why would they offer you the PC version for free if they could sell you it again on Steam?

Microsoft would need to offer some sort of financial inventive if they want publishers to jump on board.

You mean like a player that bought the Xb1 version, but also wants it for Steam? That's double the money for that one game. That's probably rare for people to buy the same game twice. So much so on PC because it doesn't sell as much as it does on console. The free option is like the invitation that was free Playstation online, until their install base was large enough to charge for a membership on an updated platform.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I think Microsoft is totally okay with that, because you'll still be buying games on their ecosystem (windows store on your PC) and whoever you sell your Xboner too will be a new person buying games in their ecosystem

Oh I didn't mean to imply that it was a negative for MS. Just that it wouldn't really affect Sony much.

 

[Stanng243]

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

You think third parties are going to want to give free copy of their game for every one sold? I don't see it happening.

 

[Elandyll]

I think Microsoft is totally okay with that, because you'll still be buying games on their ecosystem (windows store on your PC) and whoever you sell your Xboner too will be a new person buying games in their ecosystem

Unless they provide an added incentive to buy 3rd parties on their front store on Win 10 PC, what's to stop people from buying all the third parties on Steam or GoG, while buying the odd 1st party title on the MS store?

This is why I predicted the move to a Win10 Xbox brand only HTPC as their next Tv box, and I think this is what Scorpio will be. That box will originally be locked behind Live and the Windows Store, unlike the PC version of Win10.
If the MS digital store-only option fails (to provide sizeable ROI), the next step will probably be a more open Xbox set top box that will allow Steam and have their own 1st party titles available on more store fronts on the PC side (like Steam and GoG), and if that too fails to be worth it, then they'll either go full third party (platform agnostic, expanding the market size) or drop gaming alltogether by selling the Xbox division (Minecraft possibly remaining a core asset for their AR venture), but we're talking very long term (10-15 years+), and of course this is my 2cps.

 

[Zedox]

Xbox consoles are doomed. Everyone is going to get PCs and leave the consoles behind because all of MS' exclusives are now on Windows Store so there's no reason to get Xbox. The Windows Store sucks cuz it's UWP and no one wants that. People will use Steam and PS4. The end is nigh. /s

 

[icespide]

Unless they provide an added incentive to buy 3rd parties on their front store on Win 10 PC, what's to stop people from buying all the third parties on Steam or GoG, while buying the odd 1st party title on the MS store?

This is why I predicted the move to a Win10 Xbox brand only HTPC as their next Tv box, and I think this is what Scorpio will be. That box will originally be locked behind Live and the Windows Store, unlike the PC version of Win10.
If the MS digital store-only option fails (to provide sizeable ROI), the next step will probably be a more open Xbox set top box that will allow Steam and have their own 1st party titles available on more store fronts on the PC side (like Steam and GoG), and if that too fails to be worth it, then they'll either go full third party (platform agnostic, expanding the market size) or drop gaming alltogether by selling the Xbox division (Minecraft possibly remaining a core asset for their AR venture), but we're talking very long term (10-15 years+), and of course this is my 2cps.

I think microsoft would kill/sell off xbox before allowing other store fronts on it

Xbox consoles are doomed. Everyone is going to get PCs and leave the consoles behind because all of MS' exclusives are now on Windows Store so there's no reason to get Xbox. The Windows Store sucks cuz it's UWP and no one wants that. People will use Steam and PS4. The end is nigh. /s

you jest but that might actually happen lol

 

[Night Angel]

Xbox consoles are doomed. Everyone is going to get PCs and leave the consoles behind because all of MS' exclusives are now on Windows Store so there's no reason to get Xbox. The Windows Store sucks cuz it's UWP and no one wants that. People will use Steam and PS4. The end is nigh. /s

Solid contribution.
/s

 

[Zedox]

I think microsoft would kill/sell off xbox before allowing other store fronts on it



you jest but that might actually happen lol

I know you're aren't serious with that statement. The thought of every xbox console gamers going to make gaming pcs...LOL. You jest.

Solid contribution.
/s

I've already stated my "contribution" as you would put it. Why so serious?

 

[flkraven]

Unless they provide an added incentive to buy 3rd parties on their front store on Win 10 PC, what's to stop people from buying all the third parties on Steam or GoG, while buying the odd 1st party title on the MS store?

Today, right now, in June of 2016 how many people own a gaming PC + an Xbox One and buy any of their 3rd party games on Xbox One? If the person I'm describing buys their 3rd parties on XB1 for some reason, how will Play Anywhere change that?

For you, you own all 3 consoles and a gaming PC. How much 3rd party gaming do you do on your Xbox One?

 

[Elandyll]

Today, right now, in June of 2016 how many people own a gaming PC + an Xbox One and buy any of their 3rd party games on Xbox One? If the person I'm describing buys their 3rd parties on XB1 for some reason, how will Play Anywhere change that?

For you, you own all 3 consoles and a gaming PC. How much 3rd party gaming do you do on your Xbox One?

I actually have PS4/ PC, and I still occasionally buy 3rd party on PS4, depending on the title.
But the part you quoted refer to people's behavior on PC relating to third parties and the MS store, so I'm not sure I see the link?

Point being, even if I may buy the odd title on the MS store (1st party, like, say Recore), I don't see why I would necessarily buy 3rd party on their store on PC, which is why the move over Win10 and bringing more people to PC (while logical for them imo) will not necessarily be a zero sum as compared to selling the same 3rd party game on a closed env like XB1.

I think microsoft would kill/sell off xbox before allowing other store fronts on it


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Short term, yes, it would not make sense.
Which is why I said "if it fails" in fact, at which point they would have another shot at making an Xbox branded hardware relevant, but only really by opening it more imo.
Being unwilling to do that, indeed, they would go to step 3 (3rd party or dropping gaming division)

 

[boredandlazy]

Hey there. I have an Xbox and also am currently boycotting UWP. AMA!

I'm pretty sure you already had one before E3 though.

 

[flkraven]

I actually have PS4/ PC, and I still occasionally buy 3rd party on PS4, depending on the title.
But the part you quoted refer to people's behavior on PC relating to third parties and the MS store, so I'm not sure I see the link?

Point being, even if I may buy the odd title on the MS store (1st party, like, say Recore), I don't see why I would necessarily buy 3rd party on their store on PC, hence the mmove over Win10 and bringing more people to PC (while logical fornthem imo) not necesarily being a zero sum as compared to selling the same 3rd party on a closed env like XB1.

My connection is that this isn't really a negative for Microsoft. I'm sure ideally they'd like people to buy 3rd party games in their store, but as it stands the typical PC gamer gives them $0 for 3rd party games so not much changes with the Play Anywhere thing. The positive for them is they might get people buying their exclusives when they otherwise would never own Xbox hardware.

 

[icespide]

I know you're aren't serious with that statement. The thought of every xbox console gamers going to make gaming pcs...LOL. You jest.

you're right I don't think console gamers will flock to PC at all. what I could see happening is this:

UWP Play Anywhere initiative gives Microsoft a decent bump of install base for Windows 10 (which is at the end of the day what they really care about) but it barely makes a dent in Windows Store traction and first party game sales.

Eventually Microsoft cares less about making Xbox/Windows 10 exclusive games because they just aren't seeing a big enough ROI.

Xbox is dead

PC gaming continues as it does and Windows Store is just a blip on the radar

Console gaming continues with its new iterative model with Sony, Nintendo.

TO BE CLEAR: I don't necessarily think this is what will happen, it's just one way I could see it playing out

 

[4Tran]

What do you mean? Steam games you already own? Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?

Yes, all of the above, and why anyone would have interest in releasing their games on Xbox Play Anywhere.

What were those PC gamers going to do with an Xbox One? Buy third party games that is already available & superior on their preferred platform? Buy an Xbox Live sub when they're used to gaming online for free on PC?

Except that lots of people do just that, and now they have one less reason to do so.

This whole initiative from MS is to make it easier to get their money off of PC gamers. Instead of MS risking PC gamers buying additional hardware that is closed down & doesn't share the strengths of their preferred platform just to play a handful of games, they have now made it easier for PC gamers to buy their first party software.

I'm not convinced. Xbox Play Anywhere is meant to achieve all sorts of things, but higher revenues is not one of these. It looks a lot more like a loss leader to get people to start using the Windows 10 Store instead. If Microsoft had any interest in increased revenues on games, they would just start releasing them on Windows and not bother with Xbox Play Anywhere.

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

Hypothetical question: Say MS is successful at launching all 1st party xb1 IPs on Windows 10. This move steals some thunder away from the PS4. What would Sony do to gain back the fans that made the switch to xb1 and PC?

Btw, I'm a Sony, MS, Nintendo, Apple fanboy, so it doesn't matter who wins.

With better exclusives.

 

[gafneo]

Yes, all of the above, and why anyone would have interest in releasing their games on Xbox Play Anywhere.


Except that lots of people do just that, and now they have one less reason to do so.


I'm not convinced. Xbox Play Anywhere is meant to achieve all sorts of things, but higher revenues is not one of these. It looks a lot more like a loss leader to get people to start using the Windows 10 Store instead. If Microsoft had any interest in increased revenues on games, they would just start releasing them on Windows and not bother with Xbox Play Anywhere.

recap: You said"
You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere. "

I asked;1 Steam games you already own? 2Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? 3Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?"

1. The old ones won't unless they decide to port
2. Steam VR and green light games are the only ones I see being temp exclusives
3.I see the same exact third party publishers who supported Vita/pS3/ ps4 crossbuy to use Xbox Anywhere.

 

[jdmonmou]

They could use PS Now to counter. But I don't think MS does any harm to Sony with the Play Anywhere initiative. It just weakens the value of the Xbox. Those with gaming PCs don't need an Xbox so they'll buy a PS4 if they're in the market for a console.

 

[Night Angel]

recap: You said"
You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere. "

1 Steam games you already own? 2Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? 3Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?"

1. The old ones won't unless they decide to port
2. Steam VR and green light games are the only ones I see being temp exclusives
3.I see the same exact third party publishers who supported Vita/pS3/ ps4 cross buy support Xbox Anywhere.

So given that Xbox Anywhere will have very limited support from 3rd party devs (especially in the AAA space).

 

[Elandyll]

My connection is that this isn't really a negative for Microsoft. I'm sure ideally they'd like people to buy 3rd party games in their store, but as it stands the typical PC gamer gives them $0 for 3rd party games so not much changes with the Play Anywhere thing. The positive for them is they might get people buying their exclusives when they otherwise would never own Xbox hardware.

I think the big unknown here is just how many PC gamers will be attracted to Xbox 1st party titles and be willing to invest in a (for now) closed digital storefront, vs the loss of 3rd party sales on Gamers prefering to invest in a pc rather than spend money on an Xbox which - for them- doesn't have a differential anymore.

It also begs the question in the future that, with more and more Win10 small form/ HTPCs designed for the TV being available, what will an Xbox branded set top box (actually a branded HTPC I think) have to do/ provide to differentiate itself and incentivize people to look past the walled garden and paid online, when there is a more attractive/ less restrictive option available?

That's kinda why I see the move MS is doing as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position tbh.

Now there are many who also think that enough people are either so brand loyal, or so PC - allergic, that an Xbox branded-UI locked HTPC would still have plenty of sales to be relevant for years to come, benefitting also from a full Windows device synergy (cross play, remote play, etc)...

I do not think so myself (in the long term), but we shall see

 

[4Tran]

recap: You said"
You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere. "

I asked;1 Steam games you already own? 2Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? 3Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?"

1. The old ones won't unless they decide to port
2. Steam VR and green light games are the only ones I see being temp exclusives
3.I see the same exact third party publishers who supported Vita/pS3/ ps4 cross buy support Xbox Anywhere.

That still sounds like there won't be any games on both Steam and Xbox Anywhere.

 

[GobFather]

Um its steals thunder from the xbox since I can now just have a pc and a ps4 and enjoy all the games.

Pretty much

 

[Kayant]

3rd party is going to want to include an Anywhere feature because the Steam revenue isn't just about figures. It's going to expand players on the Windows platform. The Xbox already generates a great profit so the Anywhere gives people a reason to buy the Xbox version over Steam altogether. They will lose some sales on Steam, but the incentive to buy an Xbox version over a PS4 copy has increased over the sales they would have made over Steam. This is my hypothesis. We will have to see what happens when it's actually tested in real time.

Huhuh can't wait for EA games to come to Win store.

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Big pubs coming to Win store will only happen if it's extremely successful and/or MS give some incentive for them to do so. i.e Tomb Raider. Yet alone them doing Xbox Anywhere when they lose of on additional revenue from only selling 1 license

 

[flkraven]

I think the big unknown here is just how many PC gamers will be attracted to Xbox 1st party titles and be willing to invest in a (for now) closed digital storefront, vs the loss of 3rd party sales on Gamers prefering to invest in a pc rather than spend money on an Xbox which - for them- doesn't have a differential anymore.

It also begs the question in the future that, with more and more Win10 small form/ HTPCs designed for the TV being available, what will an Xbox branded set top box (actually a branded HTPC I think) have to do/ provide to differentiate itself and incentivize people to look past the walled garden and paid online, when there is a more attractive/ less restrictive option available?

That's kinda why I see the move MS is doing as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position tbh.

Now there are many who also think that enough people are either so brand loyal, or so PC - allergic, that an Xbox branded-UI locked HTPC would still have plenty of sales to be relevant for years to come, benefitting also from a full Windows device synergy (cross play, remote play, etc)...

I do not think so myself (in the long term), but we shall see

I agree that only time will tell how this impacts Microsoft one way or the other. To the bolded point, I somewhat addressed my own personal opinion on Microsoft's direction as a current Xbox One owner in a previous thread:

On GAF I always seem to see people chime in and act like they have 'figured it all out' because they are clever enough to build a PC rather than getting suckered into buying an Xbox. I guess the market that MS is targeting with their box is not as vocal.

I will be buying the new Xbox. Facts about me:
a) I have enough money to build a PC whenever I want
b) Having worked at a computer store for 4 years, I also have the know how to build one.
c) I am well aware that any console would easily be outmatched by a PC
d) I buy my games digitally, so I would definitely save money on PC.

Despite this I still purchase an Xbox. Not because I am a sucker or an idiot, but because it is hassle free and I am very comfortable with it. Comfortable with the UI, the controller, my friends list, and party chat. Comfortable knowing that I have access to my Xbox 360 and Xbox One libraries. Comfortable getting 4 new games to play every month with my Xbox Live subscription. Comfortable with the fact that I get updates downloaded automatically and that every game just works without having to tweak resolution, graphics settings, lighting options, etc etc.

Needless to say, I work all day and I just want to come home, relax, and be comfortable. The Xbox does that for me and I suspect many other gamers would agree.

(PS, I'm sure there are plenty of others that feel the same about their Playstation or Nintendo)

 

[gafneo]

That still sounds like there won't be any games on both Steam and Xbox Anywhere.

They are separate clients if that's what you mean. If you buy a game off Steam, you have the freedom to buy it again on GOG. One could consider buying on the Windows's 10 store client and getting a free console version. It all depends on what platform you hold dearly to your gaming needs.

 

[4Tran]

They are separate clients if that's what you mean. If you buy a game off Steam, you have the freedom to buy it again on GOG. One could consider buying on the Windows's 10 store client and getting a free console version. It all depends on what platform you hold dearly to your gaming needs.

No, I mean that Xbox Anywhere games are only going to be only available on the Windows 10 Store and nowhere else on PC.

 

[Stanng243]

recap: You said"
You still haven't addressed what Steam games are ever going to show up on Xbox Anywhere. "

I asked;1 Steam games you already own? 2Upcoming games that are announced for Steam but not Xbox Anywhere? 3Predictions of 3rd parties that will show up on both or one or the other?"

1. The old ones won't unless they decide to port
2. Steam VR and green light games are the only ones I see being temp exclusives
3.I see the same exact third party publishers who supported Vita/pS3/ ps4 crossbuy to use Xbox Anywhere.

Not a lot of 3rd party publishers support cross-buy. It's mostly Sony games and indies. I can't see many companies giving away a free copy of each game for each sale.

 

[gafneo]

Huhuh can't wait for EA games to come to Win store.

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Big pubs coming to Win store will only happen if it's extremely successful and/or MS give some incentive for them to do so. i.e Tomb Raider. Yet alone them doing Xbox Anywhere when they lose of on additional revenue from only selling 1 license

Are you sarcastically referring EA's Origin store which distances itself from other digital distributors? Well if every other dev supports MS, EA would have to A) drop Origin, or B) Release their own crossbuy PC model.

 

[Bgamer90]

The potential reach of the W10 store to people or regions that they could never make ground with the Xbox on probably outweighs those who are willing to forgo the Xbox for PC like some on GAF are doing, and that's what Microsoft is banking on. I doubt Xbox's sales will be affected in a significant way by this move, so in the end it will most likely end up being a net positive for Microsoft. But who knows if it will be as successful as MS wants it to be. That's the real question.

Yeah, at worst things will stay exactly the same as they are now for the Xbox brand in terms of console sales. Most are buying Xbox Ones to play many multiplats -- the system(s) will continue to sell similarly as long as third party support is there.

 

[Night Angel]

Are you sarcastically referring EA's Origin store which distances itself from other digital distributors? Well if every other dev supports MS, EA would have to A) drop Origin, or B) Release their own crossbuy PC model.

 

[Demoskinos]

They don't need to do anything. They are already the market leader in consoles. Microsoft strats seem to be around just leveraging xbox as a brand for both PC and console. I think both companies are going in slightly different directions.

 

[icespide]

Are you sarcastically referring EA's Origin store which distances itself from other digital distributors? Well if every other dev supports MS, EA would have to A) drop Origin, or B) Release their own crossbuy PC model.

uh no they would just do C) jack shit