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HP brings back (and recommends) Windows 7 "by popular demand"
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ComputerMKII
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You've gotta offer what people want.
If quality was more important than people's habits, everyone would be using Vim and LaTeX.
If quality was more important than people's habits, everyone would be using Vim and LaTeX.
A desktop OS shouldn't be easier to use on a Tablet.
Regarding HP though, I assume that their PC sales dropped somewhat significantly since the release of Windows 8.
Meccanical
Member
Clearly it is.
I agree, and love it. That being said, just about everyone I know who is not into technology, absolutely hate it. They pretty much gave up on it straight away when seeing the metro start screen...
EDIT: Just checked the HP Canada store and Windows 8 is still the only OS offered for their desktops.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
(It's a hybrid not a tablet)
Napoleonthechimp
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I've attempting to become Microsoft certified (with the goal of getting an IT Tech job) and I am honestly considering Windows 7 certifications over the newer Windows 8 ones.
I really can't imagine any Enterprise users opting for it.
I really can't imagine any Enterprise users opting for it.
methane47
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Its going to be great reading all the comments in here about how Win8 is the "Superior" OS. And people who dont think so are just lazy idiots who dont want to learn a keyboard shortcut or two.
I probably wouldn't even bother with any of those. Try to get a Server OS Cert instead.
I probably wouldn't even bother with any of those. Try to get a Server OS Cert instead.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
The truf hurts.
methane47
Member
fixed
But they are lazy and ignorant and forgoing a superior experience due to being scared of a change that doesn't really affect them or cuts into what they do.
methane47
Member
A UI change that was made for the sake of making a change.
Not for the sake of improving usability (which is the purpose of a UI).
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Win8 IS the superior OS, but only if you install classic shell. Which 95% of users aren't even going to know exists.
For those 95% I have no doubt Win7 would be the superior os - I'd take a small drop in performance for a massive increase in useability to if I had too as well.
Hopefully Win9 will sort this mess out.
For those 95% I have no doubt Win7 would be the superior os - I'd take a small drop in performance for a massive increase in useability to if I had too as well.
Hopefully Win9 will sort this mess out.
Uno Venova
Banned
Good stuff, hope Dell does that too, no one should have to suffer through that os.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Yep. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Taco_Human
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Everybody waiting on Windows 9.
I've yet to upgrade, but I'm willing to try out 8 if I can afford a pc this year.
I've yet to upgrade, but I'm willing to try out 8 if I can afford a pc this year.
I agree totally. It`s just that if you are using desktop win7 is 10 times better.
You seem oddly invested in this. Work for Microsoft or are just so boring in general that you resort to cheerleading operating systems?
It was created to bridge the gap between all personal computing devices and to make the start menu more useful for the desktop user. You can still use it in the 100% exact same way as Windows 7 if you want or you can go further. It wasn't made for the sake of change, that BS argument was long debunked.
I do not work for MS, but will parade the truth when ignorance flies about.
Opus Angelorum
Member
I guess this is why things can't progress at a good rate, some people simply don't like change.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
HP is bad, thus make bad suggestions.
So much hate for eight. I personally like it a lot. Little things like restarting an ap by simply dragging it down and letting it flip, the touch-friendly ui in metro... then again I use it on my surface primarily, all my PCs have touchpad keyboards so the experience is still similar.
Change is fine when it's for a legitimate reason. Change so that Microsoft can better compete in the tablet market is not a legitimate reason for an end-user. Windows 8 was a misfire in nearly every respect and it's reassuring to see that the market agrees.
JetBlackPanda
Member
This.
It's this new wave internet zeitgeist that we live in. You have to launch and be absolutely perfect in every way or the bad press and ADD consumer will leave you behind.
This is a world where a twitter campaign can change the end of Mass Effect 3
at this point, it's pretty clear that windows 8 is a turkey.
when some of those early BF4 benchmarks came out showing a marked increase in performance for dx11.2, i was prospectively thumbing around to see what kind of deals i could get, now it just seems like a waste of time and money.
windows' wider audience have made their voices heard. if the W9 rumours are to be believed, MS aren't quite moronic enough to ignore them.
when some of those early BF4 benchmarks came out showing a marked increase in performance for dx11.2, i was prospectively thumbing around to see what kind of deals i could get, now it just seems like a waste of time and money.
windows' wider audience have made their voices heard. if the W9 rumours are to be believed, MS aren't quite moronic enough to ignore them.
The Start menu was changed into its own environment to bring the same experience across PC/Phone/Tablet which are all in essence personal computing devices. Windows 8 retained everything from Windows 7 and gave an enhanced desktop experience and changed the start menu into something that can be considered actually useful beyond simple search. The misfire comments come from the uninformed, which you obviously are.
So your saying I should launch something that's missing functionality that millions of people got used too(start) and make something people don't like and not get criticism for it? Sweet!
The new and old windows 8 start still do not function the way I want them to either.
I use Windows 8 and honestly don't hate it but its pretty fucking easy to see why other people don't like it.
I've only tried 8 in the store on the demo displays, but when I hit the start button it did make me freak out at the new window with all the options in there. I'm happy with 7 and like they give choices, but MS really has their work cut out for them for the things needing to change in 9.
The actual OS is better then windows 7. The UI on the other hand is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Its a hybrid UI designed for tablets and hybrid laptops and gives little to no options to recreate a similar/better desktop experience with Windows 7 even after the 8.1 changes. We need a 3rd party application just to get a 'similar' experience with Windows 7. With Classic Shell I enjoy windows 8, but as someone in IT the thought of Windows 8 on our manager computers frightens me from all the retraining we would have to do each time a new computer entered the field which is why we decided collectively to completely skip Windows 8 and keep going with Windows 7. Microsoft better get their priorities straight with 9 and actual create a UI from the get go that is a comfortable desktop experience and doesn't need 3rd party apps to save the day.
JetBlackPanda
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I think you should be able to have a a classic mode for people like yourself. However my daily functions from 7 to 8 changed a bit but nothing was missing from my experience. I prefer 8 to 7 now.
What missing functionality are you talking about?
Uno Venova
Banned
Haven't they usually been at the top of hardware sales for computers.
I got to say I'm worried windows 9 will be just as bad. I can't stand metro and they are showing no interest in getting rid of it. Even xbone has a metro style.
Horsemama1956
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Dont mind Windows 8, I never see/use metro though. Overall the OS seems snappier.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Those of you saying W8 isn't that bad are missing the point. If it's not clearly better in some way, why would consumers want it? Answer: they don't.
Windows 7 was a great OS, sure, but I don't understand the hate aimed at Windows 8. It runs perfectly fine on my laptop. It's clean, simple and it works. I hear people comparing it to the clusterfuck that was Vista and I can't help but wonder what they've been smoking to come to that conclusion.
JetBlackPanda
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It's a lot more stable and it runs faster on my machine.
Napoleonthechimp
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I will do but it is too expensive for me at the moment.
It's clearly better for gaming and from a productivity standpoint as every aspect is faster. People are ignorant and throw hate at things they can't comprehend.
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