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[dallow_bg]

How many Android pads sold last quarter?

Not sure about last quarter, but lifetime sales of all Android tablets combined was less than 1.4 million.

 

[Brinbe]

Guess they ran out haha

 

[MechDX]

Its a different seller.

jignesh_dalsaniya is the new seller at $200.

Sounds trust worthy. His seller status just started today.

 

[kharma45]

Dude are you serious. I love you., i will be refreshign GAF like a motherfucker. Please tell me more

That is literally all I know, and I haven't been able to confirm it myself, found out too late to phone HP (their phone lines close at 4pm on a Sunday) but from who I spoke to and what I can gather online it should happen tomorrow, with one person saying 10am (although I'd be less sure about the time). I'm just getting up early and keeping my eye on here, Twitter and HotUKDeals.

I hope it does happen, would be a nice birthday present to myself. Wonder if I should phone HP early, tell them it's my birthday and nab a bargain one early?

 

[bob page]

I hope to make a large enough profit from selling these to buy a tegra 3 tablet. Hoping ebay/CL market does not get flooded

You're not going to make any money if you plan on reselling these (at least right now). In fact, you'll probably lose money considering how many people have them.

 

[speedline]

Sold by "Computer Brain," not OnSale

Strange considering it's the link that used to be onsale, and its also the link from slickdeals that was for onsale

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3226796

 

[scorcho]

Because the iPad 2 is the alternative currently available on the market. HP fucked up by releasing a product basically a generation behind its main competitor.

in specs it isn't. the biggest failing seems to be completely unoptimized software. Anandtech gave a nice breakdown of the tablet's specs in relation to the iPad2 and there was little difference except for 3D performance, something which shouldn't affect the UI much.

for instance, HP/Palm left logging enabled throughout the OS! turning that off alone purportedly increased perceived performance by a bit.

 

[Bleepey]

That is literally all I know, and I haven't been able to confirm it myself, found out too late to phone HP (their phone lines close at 4pm on a Sunday) but from who I spoke to and what I can gather online it should happen tomorrow, with one person saying 10am (although I'd be less sure about the time). I'm just getting up early and keeping my eye on here, Twitter and HotUKDeals.

I hope it does happen, would be a nice birthday present to myself. Wonder if I should phone HP early, tell them it's my birthday and nab a bargain one early?

This looks like something i don't need but hey i will but it for..... What can i do with this shit?

 

[antonz]

Because the iPad 2 is what's currently on the market. HP fucked up by releasing a product basically a generation behind its main competitor. What's the point of releasing a competitor to a product that's already been replaced by something better? No wonder they're having a fire sale.

I agree but the degree of hyperbole is hilarious. Touchpad is "big and bulky" because it weights like .3 pounds more than the Ipad 2 and identical to the Ipad.

 

[numble]

in specs it isn't. the biggest failing seems to be completely unoptimized software. Anandtech gave a nice breakdown of the tablet's specs in relation to the iPad2 and there was little difference except for 3D performance, something which shouldn't affect the UI much.

for instance, HP/Palm left logging enabled throughout the OS! turning that off alone purportedly increased perceived performance by a bit.

Weight and software performance are the most noticeable specs to someone interacting with a tablet for the first time.

 

[bob page]

I agree but the degree of hyperbole is hilarious. Touchpad is "big and bulky" because it weights like .3 pounds more than the Ipad 2 and identical to the Ipad.

I used to own an OG iPad and now own an iPad 2 and I would never go back to that form factor. Just saying. Small changes can make significant differences to consumers.

And yeah, the GPU of the iPad 2 blows this thing out of the water. Don't buy this assuming you'll get similar performance to Apple's top-grade hardware.

As long as you buy it with realistic expectations, you'll enjoy it.

 

[MechDX]

WOW! Only $6.99 and he will message you when its back instock.

I bought two just to be safe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1e66541869

 

[dabig2]

You're not going to make any money if you plan on reselling these (at least right now). In fact, you'll probably lose money considering how many people have them.

market is definitely going to be over-flooded by the middle of this upcoming week once all those online orders have gotten into a majority of user's hands. Plus by then the consumer frenzy probably would've died down. We'll see though.

I just got 2 and will keep 1 and give the other to my mom for her 50th b-day. Works out nicely.

 

[fse]

I got one on Amazon from OnSale for $99. Can't wait
I'll prob use it for kindle and reading apps.

 

[shadyspace]

OnSale's sold out.

 

[1-D_FTW]

in specs it isn't. the biggest failing seems to be completely unoptimized software. Anandtech gave a nice breakdown of the tablet's specs in relation to the iPad2 and there was little difference except for 3D performance, something which shouldn't affect the UI much.

for instance, HP/Palm left logging enabled throughout the OS! turning that off alone purportedly increased perceived performance by a bit.

Isn't the GPU more like the ipad1 and significantly behind ipad 2? Either way, these things are about the software. Who besides irrational Apple haters would buy this over an ipad if both are priced at 500 dollars. It never had a chance and should have never came out if they didn't have a compelling reason for people to choose it.

 

[kharma45]

This looks like something i don't need but hey i will but it for..... What can i do with this shit?

Trade it into CEX and make a potential profit?

I'm buying it as (with a few patches etc) it's a reasonable tablet, for the price it's hard to beat, and the hope that Android does eventually get ported to it.

 

[Bowser]

WOW! Only $6.99 and he will message you when its back instock.

I bought two just to be safe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1e66541869

Hurry, last change! Running out in minutes!

 

[Gary Whitta]

WOW! Only $6.99 and he will message you when its back instock.

I bought two just to be safe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1e66541869

LOL excellent.

 

[Naked Snake]

Strange considering it's the link that used to be onsale, and its also the link from slickdeals that was for onsale

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3226796

Amazon noobs.

This happens all the time on Amazon, it's how the site is designed to operate.

 

[LM4sure]

You're not going to make any money if you plan on reselling these (at least right now). In fact, you'll probably lose money considering how many people have them.

I listed a couple on CL for $200 and got a couple of bites. I think I'll make a decent enough profit.

 

[Jasoco]

So are there actually any $100 Touchpads left at all? Where can I get one?

 

[Raistlin]

price changed on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056UOUC8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The price didn't change ... it's a different seller

Strange considering it's the link that used to be onsale, and its also the link from slickdeals that was for onsale

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3226796

It's not strange ... that's how amazon works.

The main page for an item will typically be the Amazon warehouse item, with other sellers as a secondary option through a link.

Once Amazon is out, it will link to one of the other sellers that still has the item ... many times to the cheapest seller (but not always). That was OnSale ... but it looks like they may be out. Or possible Amazon just rotates who gets the main page.

 

[CatPee]

I listed a couple on CL for $200 and got a couple of bites. I think I'll make a decent enough profit.

 

[dallow_bg]

So are there actually any $100 Touchpads left at all? Where can I get one?

15 mins too late.
Hopefully more pop up online.

 

[Robobandit]

Because the iPad 2 is what's currently on the market. HP fucked up by releasing a product basically a generation behind its main competitor. What's the point of releasing a competitor to a product that's already been replaced by something better? No wonder they're having a fire sale.

To be fair, every other tablet on the market is an ipad 1 competitor by that logic.. with the sole possible exception of the galaxy tab 10.1. Every other tablet is bulkier and heavier and has an inferior screen.

 

[Chesskid1]

in specs it isn't. the biggest failing seems to be completely unoptimized software. Anandtech gave a nice breakdown of the tablet's specs in relation to the iPad2 and there was little difference except for 3D performance, something which shouldn't affect the UI much.

for instance, HP/Palm left logging enabled throughout the OS! turning that off alone purportedly increased perceived performance by a bit.

link to anadtech article please!

 

[Kai Dracon]

Well, now I wait and see if I get a cancellation email from Amazon.

 

[Archer]

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/HP_TouchPad_Tablet/FB356UTABA/11394712/ has the 32gb.

Have at it GAF.

 

[Dwayne]

Discounted accessories anywhere?

 

[MThanded]

WOW! Only $6.99 and he will message you when its back instock.

I bought two just to be safe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1e66541869

LOLOL

 

[numble]

I really want a cheap Veer.

 

[LM4sure]

To be fair, every other tablet on the market is an ipad 1 competitor by that logic.. with the sole possible exception of the galaxy tab 10.1. Every other tablet is bulkier and heavier and has an inferior screen.

But there are tradeoffs. While other tablets may be heavier, many of them have better specs. I'd rather have the better specs and have a slightly bulkier tablet. And it's not true that the ipad2 has a better screen than other tablets.

 

[MechDX]

Funny enough, its easier to find accessories for the Touchpad than the Transformer at the same point in its lifespan. lol

 

[Jasoco]

15 mins too late.
Hopefully more pop up online.

Figures. I mean I already have an iPad, but I was hoping to fuck around with WebOS a bit.

 

[Lebron]

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/HP_TouchPad_Tablet/FB356UTABA/11394712/ has the 32gb.

Have at it GAF.

Already nuked from orbit

 

[Bowser]

link to anadtech article please!

Here's a link to the article on how to turn off logging. Pretty sure it's been posted before but might as well show it again for newcomers: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/how-to-improve-the-performance-of-your-new-hp-touchpad/3866

Already nuked from orbit

Says 10k in stock...

 

[Bleepey]

Not shipping to the UK, you can go fuck yourself.

 

[bob page]

But there are tradeoffs. While other tablets may be heavier, many of them have better specs. I'd rather have the better specs and have a slightly bulkier tablet. And it's not true that the ipad2 has a better screen than other tablets.

Which tablets (by today's definition) have better specs and perform better than the iPad 2 for its price bracket?

 

[kehs]

But there are tradeoffs. While other tablets may be heavier, many of them have better specs. I'd rather have the better specs and have a slightly bulkier tablet. And it's not true that the ipad2 has a better screen than other tablets.

The only other tablets that trump the iPad 2 are x86 tablets.

 

[scorcho]

link to anadtech article please!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4658/its-not-qualcomms-fault-dispelling-touchpad-myths

 

[numble]

Which tablets have better specs and perform better than the iPad 2?

Touchpad has more ghz and RAM, duh (Doesn't matter if the OS is an unoptimized memory hog).

 

[Lebron]

Says 10k in stock...

I meant the site itself. I kept getting error messages.

 

[Leona Lewis]

But there are tradeoffs. While other tablets may be heavier, many of them have better specs. I'd rather have the better specs and have a slightly bulkier tablet. And it's not true that the ipad2 has a better screen than other tablets.

In terms of screen quality, I've read that the Touchpad with its IPS display is really quite impressive, but not as bright as that of the iPad 2. And I don't think anyone will argue that the iPad 2 doesn't have the most responsive touchscreen or the best specs on paper (RAM and GHz notwithstanding, and we all know how minor those are compared to software).

 

[bob page]

Touchpad has more ghz and RAM, duh (Doesn't matter if the OS is an unoptimized memory hog).

But it's worse hardware. I can buy cheapo RAM for my computer but more expensive RAM with better timings, etc will yield better results every time.

Numbers aren't always cut & dry.

As far as the screen goes, the TouchPad display is impressive, but doesn't have the viewing angles of the iPad 2. Not many tablets do.

Edit: Looks like the SunSpider Javascript benchmark for the iPad 2 is also over 1,500ms less than the TouchPad (less is better)

 

[Raistlin]

To be fair, every other tablet on the market is an ipad 1 competitor by that logic.. with the sole possible exception of the galaxy tab 10.1. Every other tablet is bulkier and heavier and has an inferior screen.

That's not true. A number use an IPS that's fairly similar to iPad (Transformer, TouchPad, etc). Certainly they are in the same ballpark.

Funny enough, its easier to find accessories for the Touchpad than the Transformer at the same point in its lifespan. lol

Yeah it does seem weird, but shouldn't be too surprising.

While Asus is by no means a small company, HP has been doing accessories, etc for way longer.

As far as the screen goes, the TouchPad display is impressive, but doesn't have the viewing angles of the iPad 2. Not many tablets do.

Assuming the viewing angles are similar to the Transformer, it doesn't really matter. It holds up at as steep of an angle as you'd ever actually use it.

iPad's crazy angles may be cool and all, but it doesn't really add to its usefulness. It's not like you're going to be able to actually read stuff comfortably at 20 degrees whether it's technically viewable or not.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Hmm, I may regret it, but I think it's still better for me to wait for Amazon...then again if it goes back up I might go for it. Though I am hesitant to do it anywhere but Amazon. That site has such good CS, especially in people not shipping stuff. I guess it's why I'm waiting for their Tablet like a dork lol.

So are most people hoping for webOS to Android or a whole community just doing stuff with the webOS stuff?

 

[MThanded]

Already nuked from orbit

10325 In Stock

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/HP_TouchPad_Tablet/FB356UTABA/11394712/

 

[Robobandit]

Touchpad has more ghz and RAM, duh (Doesn't matter if the OS is an unoptimized memory hog).

The 1.2Ghz scorpion core in the touchpad is slower clock for clock than the chip apple uses.. but they are comparable performance wise in general.. the ipad 2's gpu is more powerful than any other ARM based tablet currently available.

The Asus Transformer, the galaxy tab 10.1 and the HP touchpad have screens that compare favorably to the ipad and ipad 2, imo. However, I think the screen on the Xoom is a piece of trash, as is the one on the acer android tablet.

So are most people hoping for webOS to Android or a whole community just doing stuff with the webOS stuff?

Personally, I like WebOS' tablet interface better than honeycomb.. ideally I'd like to see the touchpad dual booting WebOS and Ice Cream Sandwich eventually.

WebOS with the logging disabled, the touch screen response patch and the animation speed patches is a very pleasant experience, though.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

So are most people hoping for webOS to Android or a whole community just doing stuff with the webOS stuff?

I'll probably be happy with webOS as it currently exists, after I do some of the tweaks people have been talking about. After owning both iOS and Android devices, I've realized how unimportant a robust app ecosystem is to me. Just give me the essentials, do them well, and I'll be happy.