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HP Discontinues webOS (Widespread $100 TouchPad sales)

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Tobor said:
RIM is next.
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they'd probably be better off trying to get their proprietary software on as many devices as possible before the smartphone market really takes off and people look for alternatives.
 
Honestly RIM is kinda fucked. They don't have anything special skills or patent portfolio.

All they have is Blackberry brand so someone buying them still need software. They might just have to license Windows Phone or Android if the next OS is not a huge change
 
HP is not in the ad business. They can't open source webOS as there would be no upside for them. They also lack any services to use as bait.

Luckyman said:
Honestly RIM is kinda fucked. They don't have anything special skills or patent portfolio.

All they have is Blackberry brand so someone buying them still need software
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They have a very impressive patent portfolio. Probably more potent than Motorola's
 
VanMardigan said:
Except they'll just start a "who can tell a better joke" side discussion for 45 minutes instead of talking about the news or offering commentary. I want to like that podcast, but it can be really irritating since they try SO HARD to be funny. Especially Topolsky. They have such good viewpoints, but they waste SO MUCH TIME on dumb asides. ugh.
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It's one of my favorite things about the podcast.
 
Patriots7 said:
HP is not in the ad business. They can't open source webOS as there would be no upside for them. They also lack any services to use as bait.


They have a very impressive patent portfolio. Probably more potent than Motorola's
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Yup. Where is the chart from the GoogleMoto thread?
 
Speaking of cheap Touchpad tablets, would all of the services still work fine without the HP support? I know the browser will work (although it won't get any updates), but would the Synergy stuff work as well? Aside from a dead app store, is there anything on the device that won't work when HP turns their WebOS servers off?
 
Luckyman said:
They don't have anything special skills or patent portfolio.
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I don't think you know what you're talking about.

VanMardigan said:
Speaking of cheap Touchpad tablets, would all of the services still work fine without the HP support? I know the browser will work (although it won't get any updates), but would the Synergy stuff work as well? Aside from a dead app store, is there anything on the device that won't work when HP turns their WebOS servers off?
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It will all work. You would probably only be missing the cloud backup.
 
VanMardigan said:
Speaking of cheap Touchpad tablets, would all of the services still work fine without the HP support? I know the browser will work (although it won't get any updates), but would the Synergy stuff work as well? Aside from a dead app store, is there anything on the device that won't work when HP turns their WebOS servers off?
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I think HP Synergy ties into your HP Profile.
 
Seriously... what did they expect... on the upside... you probably be able to score a good internet tablet soon for a good price...

No apps though ;)
 
itsgreen said:
Seriously... what did they expect... on the upside... you probably be able to score a good internet tablet soon for a good price...

No apps though ;)
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No new apps. It still pretty much has all of the basics that everyone wants.
 
VanMardigan said:
Speaking of cheap Touchpad tablets, would all of the services still work fine without the HP support? I know the browser will work (although it won't get any updates), but would the Synergy stuff work as well? Aside from a dead app store, is there anything on the device that won't work when HP turns their WebOS servers off?
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Why so desperate?

You can get a used Android or Apple tablet and enjoy thousands of apps and 3rd party support for years to come.

I don't understand why anyone would even consider buying one of these at this point. Maybe if it was $100 or something. Otherwise, you could be getting something well supported for similar money.


samus i am said:
No new apps. It still pretty much has all of the basics that everyone wants.
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again, why would anyone buy a tablet just for the basics when they can get those basics + thousands of apps for similar money from Android/Apple?
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Why so desperate?

You can get a used Android or Apple tablet and enjoy thousands of apps and 3rd party support for years to come.

I don't understand why anyone would even consider buying one of these at this point. Maybe if it was $100 or something. Otherwise, you could be getting something well supported for similar money.
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You could probably get android on these puppies rather easily....
 
I still think Google should have bought Palm. They got Duarte and RIM already copied the cards metaphor, so I hope Android copies it and implements it for Android 5.0. Palm could have been in better hands. HP, please, please please sell Palm. I bet Palm's patents are worth more than $1.2B though.

RIP webOS and, my very first smart phone. Loved every single moment with it. I moved on to greener(excuse the pun) and lusher pasture with Android.
 
Tobor said:
RIM is next.
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Agreed.... There is a path related from wp7 to windows 8 (even if w8 sucks it will still sell hundreds of millions)

rim on the otherhand is losing marketshare quickly and do not look to have anything revolutionary in their future.
 
VanMardigan said:
Except they'll just start a "who can tell a better joke" side discussion for 45 minutes instead of talking about the news or offering commentary. I want to like that podcast, but it can be really irritating since they try SO HARD to be funny. Especially Topolsky. They have such good viewpoints, but they waste SO MUCH TIME on dumb asides. ugh.
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That's the best part!
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Why so desperate?

You can get a used Android or Apple tablet and enjoy thousands of apps and 3rd party support for years to come.

I don't understand why anyone would even consider buying one of these at this point. Maybe if it was $100 or something. Otherwise, you could be getting something well supported for similar money.



again, why would anyone buy a tablet just for the basics when they can get those basics + thousands of apps for similar money from Android/Apple?
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What do you really need a tablet for?

Surf the web - check
Listen to music - check
Log into Facebook - check
Update your calendar, etc, etc, etc

Doesn't seem like a loss to me.
 
Actually, now that I think about it, I don't care if it's Apple or Google who buys Palm. Whoever buys Palm and whoever integrates everything I loved about webOS(elegant notifications, real multi-tasking and the seamless integration of it through card metaphor), I'm switching to that side.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Why so desperate?

You can get a used Android or Apple tablet and enjoy thousands of apps and 3rd party support for years to come.

I don't understand why anyone would even consider buying one of these at this point. Maybe if it was $100 or something. Otherwise, you could be getting something well supported for similar money.




again, why would anyone buy a tablet just for the basics when they can get those basics + thousands of apps for similar money from Android/Apple?
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Not everyone is an app whore though. Who knows, maybe the webos tablets do the basics better than ios, and whatever holes are left, are covered by third parties. I mean, a $150 tablet that runs great, has all my bases covered and some, is a nice proposition.

Just playing devil's advocate since you can't seem to wrap your head around the, "why?"

Edit: for the record, I'd never do it, and its for the reasons you mentioned. Of course, we're willing to pay a premium to have premium support and content, because our needs a bit more complex. Hope that was clear and not offensive.
 
The Palm Pre was my first phone and loved webos, it felt like a future os. But the hardware was so crappy I had to get it replaced three times before I jumped ship to android and I've never looked back.
 
RIM is probably lined up next. Probably not the next big communications-related takeover (that will be someone buying the smoldering remains of AOL), but I'd expect there will be a move at some point for RIM, especially if the patent wars get hotter.
 
titiklabingapat said:
Actually, now that I think about it, I don't care if it's Apple or Google who buys Palm. Whoever buys Palm and whoever integrates everything I loved about webOS(elegant notifications, real multi-tasking and the seamless integration of it through card metaphor), I'm switching to that side.
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Sorry my friend, HP owns Palm and they canceled their plans to make any cell phones or tablets. They are still going to use the tech in other ways, like in printers. I seriously doubt they are going to license it to Apple or Google.
 
Wow, HP's Richard Kerris just tweeted:

#HPwebOS is an awesome software platform and now we can explore the best hardware partner for it. #onward.
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I know webOS users have typically had to deny many hard truths in order to keep using the product but anyone who buys into this deserves what they get.
 
It is unbelievable the touchpad could not even survive until the end of the summer. I'm pretty shocked by this news, hopefully Apple gets to buy those palm patents.
 
VanMardigan said:
Speaking of cheap Touchpad tablets, would all of the services still work fine without the HP support? I know the browser will work (although it won't get any updates), but would the Synergy stuff work as well? Aside from a dead app store, is there anything on the device that won't work when HP turns their WebOS servers off?
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Yeah. If they shut it down entirely you wouldn't even be able to use the thing out of the box.
 
Tablets are like 400-500 bucks. They are first gen models likely to be considered crap in just a year or two anyway. I honestly think now is a terrible time to invest in a tablet, but if I could get one with the touchpad's specs for 150, it'd be awesome. You can do most of what you want through the web, plus streaming from your home server.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Why so desperate?
You can get a used Android or Apple tablet and enjoy thousands of apps and 3rd party support for years to come.
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Not desperate, cheap. I can't get a decent Android/Apple tablet for $200 or less. I figure the Touchpad will be in that range soon. If not, I'll pick up an Android tablet.
 
dream said:
Wow, HP's Richard Kerris just tweeted:



I know webOS users have typically had to deny many hard truths in order to keep using the product but anyone who buys into this deserves what they get.
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That's really dick of them to fan the faint embers of hope that many WebOS fans will want to try and feed. If you're not supporting your OS, no noteworthy manufacturer will back it.

Personally, I just want them to either refund me for my launch day purchase or come through on their promise to introduce additional features like a full document editing suite. Both would obviously be preferred, as it would allow me to buy a cleared out one with the features I want on the cheap.
 
my condolences to those who paid good money for the Touchpad. I never thought HP would throw in the towel only a few months after launch. pretty sad.
 
Earnings call begins, live blog is here: http://live.thisismynext.com/Event/HP_Q3_2011_earnings_call

VanMardigan said:
Not desperate, cheap. I can't get a decent Android/Apple tablet for $200 or less. I figure the Touchpad will be in that range soon. If not, I'll pick up an Android tablet.
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I got a first gen 16GB WiFi iPad for 300 bucks in April and while I sometimes hate using it, I still think it was worth the money.

Bitmap Frogs said:
IMHO hp spinning off their PC business is biggest news than dropping webos.
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Who cares, PCs are dead, lol.
 
Marius_ said:
Never forget

Palm_pre_creepo.jpg
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AHHHH

The Fake Steve posts on this were AAA gold.
 
Pristine_Condition said:
This makes me sad. As a former Palm Pilot fanboy, WebOS was the legacy, now lost, of all that stuff that was so wondrous at the time..
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Truthfully, webOS was never that great and I always thought it was funny how its proponents cited its meaningless differentiated features as selling points.
 
I wonder if I could pick up a TouchPad for like $50 then put Android on it.

Sean said:
Microsoft KIN phones - 48 day lifespan
HP TouchPad - 49 day lifespan

(via @stevenf)
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Wow. Puts it in perspective, Kin was an absolute bomb of supernova proportions.
 
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