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I can't believe how bad Amazing Spider-Man 2 was
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sometimes I wish GAF had a like button.
Fixed.
Kind of ejoyed it, Electro is a shit villain, his motivations were ridiculous. 'You lied to me? Let me destroy you now...' what the shit. Goblin was kind of cool but I like Dane de Haan. Rhino was fucking stupid, 1 or 2 minutes of him, what the shit.
Electro's voice was kind of cool though and I really enjoyed Spiderman, the way he acted and stuff.
Electro's voice was kind of cool though and I really enjoyed Spiderman, the way he acted and stuff.
Blargonaut
Banned
Stripper13
Member
This.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
The One and Done;126205802 said:
Film as film.
If your script sucks, lacks purpose and meanders with stupidity, it doesn't matter if you're a superhero-movie.
MarkMclovin
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It was OK. Certainly wasn't shit. There was a lot of things you could pick, but thats the same for all comic book movies. They just can't please all the comic book geeks in the world.
The Time Square scene was fucking great though especially
. So well shot.
The Time Square scene was fucking great though especially
when SM saves the people on the stage, saving the dude from the car, then the people from touching the electricity, all in slow motion, with just 1 of his web slingers.
GitarooMan
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I liked both ASM movies and prefer the series to Raimi's. I think their are definitely flaws (Electro is pretty poorly handled and has such thin motivation), but overall the portrayal of Spider-Man is much better and the charisma of Garfield/Stone is better than anything in the earlier trilogy. The raging hatred for ASM2 has always been weird to me.
I wish i could take all the Spider-Man scenes, all the ways he acts and moves and just IS Spider-Man on the screen and put it into another, more well done movie.
Cause really, the one big concensus about ASM1 and ASM 2 are that the actual character of Spider-Man is perfectly well done. Like, that IS Spider-Man in a nutshell.
Cause really, the one big concensus about ASM1 and ASM 2 are that the actual character of Spider-Man is perfectly well done. Like, that IS Spider-Man in a nutshell.
angular graphics
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Yes. The random Gwen's ghost dad sightings that don't get resolved, Peter's dad boring backstory, Rhino's scene etc really had me going "What were they thinking? Were these copy pasted from a different movie's script? Why are they in this movie?"
Such a pointless movie.
peanutbutterlatte
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No no we want better not the same/worse.
Wind's Howling
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I was in the minority amongst my friends and family when I said I absolutely hated ASM and ASM2. It was ridden with a terrible plot and some of the worst pacing.
Goes to show that they are actually the one's who spend 20 bucks on the TNMT, Transformers and Battleship movies so they keep creating this crap, and the genius movies like The Babadook goes unnoticed.
You have movie watchers and movie fanatics. I am glad I am one of the latter.
EDIT: Oh, yeah. Funnily enough they thought CA: Winter Soldier was worse than ASM2.
Goes to show that they are actually the one's who spend 20 bucks on the TNMT, Transformers and Battleship movies so they keep creating this crap, and the genius movies like The Babadook goes unnoticed.
You have movie watchers and movie fanatics. I am glad I am one of the latter.
EDIT: Oh, yeah. Funnily enough they thought CA: Winter Soldier was worse than ASM2.
I really liked it. I loved the store scene where he's sick off of his mind.
whatsinaname
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"But they had good chemistry".
No they didn't. The rapid cuts. The talking over each other. Bloody annoying. Felt like watching a sequence of those 2 sec gifs people on tumblr make.
No they didn't. The rapid cuts. The talking over each other. Bloody annoying. Felt like watching a sequence of those 2 sec gifs people on tumblr make.
It was more enjoyable than ASM1. Or to phrase that more clearly: there's a movie in there somewhere that is more enjoyable than ASM1. Unfortunately it's saddled with a mess of other stuff, a lot of which is clumsy set-up for a Sinister Six movie I don't believe anyone was interested in before and certainly not after.
The entire Harry Osbourne plot also grates, esp. in comparison to the Raimi films since that relationship was one of the things it did well. (Similarly, I thought Raimi nailed the origin story in SM1, making it extra obvious how much of a weak-tea version ASM1 was).
The whole Parker's Parents thing was again pared down to nothingness and turns out to be pretty meaningless anyway, which makes the choice to open the film with it very iffy.
Tonally, it's all over the map too, with the Electro stuff being closest to Raimi's unabashed cheesiness and thus for me the most enjoyable.
It reeks of writing-by-committee and studio meddling. I'm not as pro-MCU as many here (to me they're only 3 for 10 in terms of very good to great films and two of the great ones came out this year), but a clusterfuck of these proportions is unthinkable on Feige's watch.
The entire Harry Osbourne plot also grates, esp. in comparison to the Raimi films since that relationship was one of the things it did well. (Similarly, I thought Raimi nailed the origin story in SM1, making it extra obvious how much of a weak-tea version ASM1 was).
The whole Parker's Parents thing was again pared down to nothingness and turns out to be pretty meaningless anyway, which makes the choice to open the film with it very iffy.
Tonally, it's all over the map too, with the Electro stuff being closest to Raimi's unabashed cheesiness and thus for me the most enjoyable.
It reeks of writing-by-committee and studio meddling. I'm not as pro-MCU as many here (to me they're only 3 for 10 in terms of very good to great films and two of the great ones came out this year), but a clusterfuck of these proportions is unthinkable on Feige's watch.
Wind's Howling
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My exact same reaction when I heard it.
I was like; No. No.. I just did not hear you say that.
Sapiens
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He would just hire Orci again, considering they're buds from the old Herculean xena days. The very birthplace of today's mediocrity.
That intro speech.
Secret Fawful
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A few CGI shots were pretty cool, the rest of the CGI was the worst I've seen in a big budget film in a while (well, The Expendables 3 beat that but I saw ASM2 before that). The plot was so meandering and pointless and drawn out. The motivations of the characters are dumb. There is no emotional connection to anything that happens in the movie because nothing is set up in a way that's supposed to make the audience care. Things just keep happening and you go "oh, ok, whatever". Andrew Garfield is great but he actually had very little face time in the movie. This movie was really bad. It was just so pointless and it felt like it was made simply to have a movie out so that they can keep the license.
I'll second the "reboot it and give us Superior Spiderman" sentiment.
I'll second the "reboot it and give us Superior Spiderman" sentiment.
Daffy Duck
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It was awful, nothing holding the film together just felt like a bunch of scenes cobbled together.
Electro was hilariously bad, I mean what point did he serve?
Electro was hilariously bad, I mean what point did he serve?
megashock5
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Yeah, mine just showed up from Netflix. Can't wait. :/
Had to see it since he's my favorite fictional character ever, but I do not have high hopes.
This is the first one I didn't go the the theater for (yeah, even SM3 and ASM - both letdowns).
Movie makes Man of Steel look like a masterpiece
Err, what's to resolve?
Pejo
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I liked Garfield's Spider Man in this movie, but yea it was pretty bad. The only thing I thought was pretty cool was the
Didn't think they'd go that far, and actually had to rewind it to see if I saw what I thought I saw. That's really the only memorable thing I have about this movie though, and I only saw it a few days ago.
Gwen Stacy death scene where her head slaps off the pavement.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
They don't consistently make amazing (hah, see what I did there?) films, but the two things they've nailed are strong characterization and at least having a coherent plot, even if a lot of those plots feel samey. I just RedBoxed this last week and I was appalled at how fundamentally broken it is, nothing Marvel has done has been this bad. No, not even Iron Man 2. Not even Incredible Hulk
I do doubt that Marvel's films would be as good as Raimi's Spider-Man though.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
This is definitely a bad movie.
I'm in the huge minority because I loved it.
Garfield's Spider-Man is so much better than Maguire's in every way. I felt like his humor was spot on, where Maguire's always felt forced. He's also more believable in the more dramatic scenes, where Maguire always seemed kind of goofy and out of place.
I also think Peter Parker in ASM actually wants to help people. He has these powers now and he wants to do good with them. I loved the scene where he helps the young kid, then just walks him home. In Raimi's run it always came off as he's only doing it because he now holds some sort of responsibility.
I will agree that the story overall wasn't great, and Electro got cut way too short and never had any real motivation to be a bad guy. The moment to moment scenes were terrific though. The Times Square scene was so awesome.
Also you guys are crazy to diss Dane DeHaan. That guy was is awesome in everything, including this.
Garfield's Spider-Man is so much better than Maguire's in every way. I felt like his humor was spot on, where Maguire's always felt forced. He's also more believable in the more dramatic scenes, where Maguire always seemed kind of goofy and out of place.
I also think Peter Parker in ASM actually wants to help people. He has these powers now and he wants to do good with them. I loved the scene where he helps the young kid, then just walks him home. In Raimi's run it always came off as he's only doing it because he now holds some sort of responsibility.
I will agree that the story overall wasn't great, and Electro got cut way too short and never had any real motivation to be a bad guy. The moment to moment scenes were terrific though. The Times Square scene was so awesome.
Also you guys are crazy to diss Dane DeHaan. That guy was is awesome in everything, including this.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Raimi captured what was so great about the comics moreso than the "true to comics" reboots being shoved out the door by Sony.
I loved Spidey 1 and 2 and Tobey Maguire is Spiderman, you can't tell me otherwise.
Spiderman 3 was a travesty and should've not been as rushed as it was to shove Venom into the film.
ASM1 was okay. The one thing I give the new movies credit for is getting Spidey's movement and fluidity down. Garfield was serviceable and Emma's Gwen Stacy isn't TOO bad.
ASM2 was...ugh fuck that movie. The only redeeming part of the film is Dane DeHaan's Goblin, which creeps me out to look at.
angular graphics
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They are just there.
Had Peter said anything like "I failed on my promise" while looking at ghost dad or had Peter meaningfully acknowledged the visions in some other way for them to disappear I would consider it resolved.
As it is right now the movie doesn't even address if Peter will continue to see ghost dad. Or maybe be stopped seeing him half way through the movie (or when was the last vision he had anyway) - we just don't know.
The screenwriters plant the visions as the constant reminder of Peter's promise that torments him after the events of the first movie and we are waiting for some kind of payoff for them to go away and relief our hero, which just never happens.
Extra Sauce
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It's like they took a villain from 1997's Batman & Robin and inserted him into their ASM sequel.
It wasn't all bad though, I enjoyed every scene with Gwen Stacy.
It wasn't all bad though, I enjoyed every scene with Gwen Stacy.
Well, almost. 
Because Gwen dies! Why would there be a payoff of relief for Peter when what the visions were reminding him of in the first place actually happens?
Peter sees her dad earlier in the movie while he's still dating Gwen. They break up, he stops having the visions. During the final battle, Gwen insists on helping, rushes into the clock tower where she ultimately dies, and the dad appears once again (despite the other visions being on the hokey side, I thought how the last one was used was a nice touch -- clearly you've forgotten :lol).
I don't think this is all that confusing to follow, nor do we really need Peter shouting to the heavens "I failed my promise!!" to exorcise his ghosts. I think that's all made very clear when he sees the dad and Gwen is killed 10 minutes later.
Extra Sauce
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Relief because they go away, not because he manages to prevent the death. As far as I am concerned they have not shown me anything to make me believe they have gone away.
Sure, it's just an example. It absolutely doesn't work for me the way it plays out in the movie.
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