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I can't believe how bad Amazing Spider-Man 2 was

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Dane DeHaan was, maybe, one of the best things about this movie. Casting is the least of the problems.

I still want an answer to my first page question about why the hell Pete's dad was carrying subway tokens in his calculator though.

It's one of those things that you just let pass by while watching but, if you think about the whole concept, it makes little to no sense.
 
The problem with all Spiderman movies is they can't even get the origin right and it's all down hill from there. Spiderman is Parker's penance for the selfishness that allowed his uncles death. Both versions give him a reason not to stop the criminal that kills his uncle. Sure he feels and shows guilt but anyone would have done what he did in the same situation.


SP2 is tied with Remi's SP3 for me. They both tried to develop too many villains and failed miserably. Parker's relationship with Harry was awkward and the GG design was epically bad. Electro is tied with Burtan's Mr. Freeze as one of the most ridiculously corny and bad characters in a superhero flick. Saying it was hamfisteded would be an understatement. The only redeeming thing about the movie was how they handled Gwen's
death.
 
I haven't seen either ASM1 or ASM2.

That said, all I had to do was watch the trailers for both to decide that they wouldn't be my kinds of movies.

This is more so with ASM2. I watched that trailer and felt literally zero excitement. At least Spider Man 3 got me somewhat hyped back in the day before it ended up being a mediocre mess.
 
It's funny, I was meant to watch the movie with my girlfriend but it happened to be sold out... so we ended up watching Captain America 2 instead. Money better spent I'd say
 
On sale at Amazon, guys!

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Good things:

-the two action sequences with Electro
-a few small scenes with Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield that are charming and funny
-the Green Goblin's performance, up until he injects the venom

Bad things:
-spider-man's snarky sayings like he's Gex or something
-plotholes you could drive a rhino tank through every five minutes
-everything involving family backstory. Nothing about it is good.
-electro's third-grade-level motivations
-the villians' designs
-the occasionally really garish CGI overuse
-actually, literally everything else
 
Xenon said:
The problem with all Spiderman movies is they can't even get the origin right and it's all down hill from there. Spiderman is Parker's penance for the selfishness that allowed his uncles death. Both versions give him a reason not to stop the criminal that kills his uncle. Sure he feels and shows guilt but anyone would have done what he did in the same situation.
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How does the original SM1 drop the ball with this? I grant you that in the ASM series Peter has all but forgotten he even had an uncle, but I think Raimi nails this origin and how Ben's death drives Pete to becoming Spider-Man (and then back again in SM2).
 
Aesthet1c said:
Also you guys are crazy to diss Dane DeHaan. That guy was is awesome in everything, including this.
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Just the way he delivers lines, the look on his face, everything about him absolutely catapults me out of the movie like I'm on a fucking trebuchet. Not to mention how horribly executed the plot around his character is.
 
Fezan said:
ASM2 was very well shot very beautiful movie with excellent action good CGI and shit script. which pulled the whole movie to mediocre level.
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Except for like a few Electro shots the CGI in this movie was so awful that I don't know if you're even referring to the same movie.
 
I just wish the movie was about Peter, Gwen and Harry. Would have made everything so much better. Everything about Electro and the subplot regarding Richard Parker felt so pointless.
 
Finally got around to watching this. I actually enjoyed the first ASM but this one just was meh for me. Couldn't get into it, even got bored at times.
 
Does GAF really like the Raimi series better? Good god. While I thought TASM was better than TASM 2, I think TASM is still better than the Raimi trilogy as a whole. In fact, TASM is one of my favorite super-hero movies.

I don't like it when they fuck up comic book movies. Stick to the origins. From what I hear they are already fucking Venom. Created in a lab or some such nonsense? WHY!? If this is accurate, I'll still watch it but I'll be disappointed. But SM 3 really didn't do Venom or SM justice in general.

Idc what anyone says, Peter may have developed webbing in his wrists in one of the universes (I don't know everything Spider-Man) but then that should have been explained and/or expanded upon in the Raimi trilogy otherwise why mess with that. Give him web slingers. One of my biggest pet peeves with that series.
 
Funniest part was when the movie turned somewhat into a musical during Electro`s time on screen. Oh, and Sam Raimi`s trilogy in way, way better.
 
I too am shocked that the majority seems to prefer Raimi's movies. I honestly think it's nostalgia talking, because I saw part 2 again recently (which is generally considered to be the best) and it was corny as fuck for the most part. Toby and Kirsten are terrible in their roles, and the vibe is too campy for me personally.

ASM1 and 2 weren't perfect by any means, but they felt a lot closer to the source material to me than Raimi's movies. Despite Electro being ridiculous and pointless, ASM2 is my favorite SM movie so far. Plot holes and weird decisions aside, it still feels closer to what SM should be than any of the previous movies. And I thought Gwen, Peter, and Harry were handled very well. Dane DeHaan was awesome in his role.
 
There is that one AMAZING POST about this movie, I have no idea have anyone post it, but it is a 10000 word essay about how bad this movie is.

I approve that essay 10000 times.
 
Raptomex said:
Does GAF really like the Raimi series better? Good god. While I thought TASM was better than TASM 2, I think TASM is still better than the Raimi trilogy as a whole. In fact, TASM is one of my favorite super-hero movies.

I don't like it when they fuck up comic book movies. Stick to the origins. From what I hear they are already fucking Venom. Created in a lab or some such nonsense? WHY!? If this is accurate, I'll still watch it but I'll be disappointed. But SM 3 really didn't do Venom or SM justice in general.

Idc what anyone says, Peter may have developed webbing in his wrists in one of the universes (I don't know everything Spider-Man) but then that should have been explained and/or expanded upon in the Raimi trilogy otherwise why mess with that. Give him web slingers. One of my biggest pet peeves with that series.
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What's to expand on? He was bitten by a mutated spider, gained spider powers, and the webbing was one of them.

And technically Venom being created in a lab (assuming that still happens; personally I think that spin-off is going to be quietly cancelled at some point) would be true to Ultimate Venom's origin. The original story involving Secret Wars is never going to happen in a movie.
 
SpinDasher said:
It is weird how many people want Marvel to get the rights.

They are like 50/50 when it comes to producing movies, and that's being generous.
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Agreed. Between the mediocre Thor films, the last two Ironman movies, the horrible first Caps movie, the awful Hulk film, they're not that much better.

They've only struck gold with Avengers, Caps 2, and GoTG and the first Ironman to a lesser extent.
 
vio said:
Funniest part was when the movie turned somewhat into a musical during Electro`s time on screen. Oh, and Sam Raimi`s trilogy in way, way better.
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Gotta agree. Even 3 had some good parts among all the clutter. I did somewhat enjoy the first asm, though a bit dull. Asm2 is absolute shit.
 
I didn't the see the second movie but the first one was just garbage, no it would be an insult to garbage. I won't be seeing the second one for sure, this thread just cemented it lol.
 
I liked it better than Winter Soldier and GotG which were, to me, very by-the-books comic book movies. The final scene had more tension and emotion than the entirety of those 2 films combined.
 
*Electro walking down Times Square controlling the jumotrons*

*Police officer materializes out of nowhere and drops tear gas in Electro's direction*

*Electro turns around*

*Suddenly there are over 100 police officers that also materialize out of nowhere, all with their guns drawn to Electro. Cop cars and SWAT vans, police tape instantly appear at the scene*

Those stealthy New York cops, mang....



JB1981 said:
The main villain had no motivation or character development.
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What do you mean?
Harry had this incurable disease that was somehow triggered by the sound of Norman's voice at the moment when he told Harry about its existence. Harry's rare disease was like an accelerated version of Norman's for some unexplainable reason... it would kill him in a matter of days if he didn't get Spider-Man's blood to cure himself... so he became the Green Goblin... and worked with a super villain that had no friends... and and... ah fuck. I have nothing.
 
IncandescentPrecept said:
I liked it better than Winter Soldier and GotG which were, to me, very by-the-books comic book movies. The final scene had more tension and emotion than the entirety of those 2 films combined.
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The final scene had absolutely no tension to me. It was a very typical comic book setup executed badly.
 
moltonasty said:
I too am shocked that the majority seems to prefer Raimi's movies. I honestly think it's nostalgia talking, because I saw part 2 again recently (which is generally considered to be the best) and it was corny as fuck for the most part. Toby and Kirsten are terrible in their roles, and the vibe is too campy for me personally.

ASM1 and 2 weren't perfect by any means, but they felt a lot closer to the source material to me than Raimi's movies. Despite Electro being ridiculous and pointless, ASM2 is my favorite SM movie so far. Plot holes and weird decisions aside, it still feels closer to what SM should be than any of the previous movies. And I thought Gwen, Peter, and Harry were handled very well. Dane DeHaan was awesome in his role.
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Sure, some parts are corny in Raimi's trilogy but ASM 1 & 2 are downright CRINGE inducing.
 
There are a nice handful of scenes that I really really like in the movie.

It's a shame they screwed the overall structure so bad. It is still a movie I will enjoy fast forwarding through from time to time though.
 
Sibersk Esto said:
As opposed to two giant aircrafts crashing into each other and having nothing to do with anything?
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They're equally bad. One was an unnecessary thread, the other is just sleep-inducing. Marvel really need to become more original in their action scenes. GotG is particular had some long, overdrawn gun or airship fights. At least Spider-Man fights in an original way.
 
I watched it on a long flight the other day. It was pretty bad. The Peter and Gwen scenes were enjoyable. I liked how it feels like comic book Spidey with all the quips and jumping around frantically.

But everything else was just stupid. It felt like the script was rewritten by 4 different people and they mashed them all together into something barely resembling a narrative.

I actually liked the first ASM. This was really bad though. I really hope they drop their plans for this franchise going forward. They can't possibly recover from something so stupid.
 
IncandescentPrecept said:
I liked it better than Winter Soldier and GotG which were, to me, very by-the-books comic book movies. The final scene had more tension and emotion than the entirety of those 2 films combined.
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That laughable dead scene? its up there with Pa kent's tornado scene in stupidity.. fucking questionable scene composition.
 
thecouncil said:
I still want an answer to my first page question about why the hell Pete's dad was carrying subway tokens in his calculator though.
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Probably not just any old tokens, but special ones for his secret lab. It was the token that brought up the hidden subway car/lab. The Roosevelt station wasn't completely unknown or hidden, but his secret lab was, and those tokens were the only way to reveal it.
 
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