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I never once mentioned exclusives.
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I can't go back to consoles
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I never once mentioned exclusives.
test_account
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I'm a bit on the opposite side. I used to be a big PC gamer, but then i went over to consoles instead. I recently tried Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (and the expansion packs) again, and using mouse and keyboard felt very different, even difficult. And this is a game that i played for maybe 2-3 years back in the days. Its just a habit though, and i'm sure that i could get used to PC gaming again.
Its good to spend some time doing research, but you don't need to be an expert or anything. I'd barely ever even opened up a computer case before and it didn't take but a few good video walkthroughs of PC builds to learn what I needed to know about putting together mine. The more time consuming part was just figuring out what parts were best for my needs and even that isn't too hard if you don't want it to be(just ask in the PC build thread).
Its really not that difficult at all. Scary at first, but quite simple in the end. Perhaps a little tedious with the routing of wires, but that's not a huge deal.
The fuck are you talking about man? Did I say that because I havent had any issues I think everyone else is lying about theirs?
Stop trying to be a douche just to argue with someone.
Is that what this thread is about? A laptop replacing all console gaming?
megabytecr
Member
Yep, I am going PC also, getting all those 2009-2013 games I missed but with better performance is going to be awesome, plus free MP and cheap prices, and obviously the new games that are coming.
Will be Wii U/PC and if the PS4 has a high number of exclusives I might pick one up in 3-4 years as a SP machine.
But yeah this thread is not going to end well. The PS4 is a good proposition but no BC and MP paywall kills it for me. Games are looking great now and probably in the future but PC ports already beating the new consoles does not look good in my eyes. I can only imagine the differences next year and in 2015.
Will be Wii U/PC and if the PS4 has a high number of exclusives I might pick one up in 3-4 years as a SP machine.
But yeah this thread is not going to end well. The PS4 is a good proposition but no BC and MP paywall kills it for me. Games are looking great now and probably in the future but PC ports already beating the new consoles does not look good in my eyes. I can only imagine the differences next year and in 2015.
It's still not a high end pc which is what most seem to think, not to mention the fact that SRIV runs terrible on a real pc let alone a laptop.
I feel like i was not able to play the game at the framerate it was supposed to given what was displayed on my screen and what it was doing in general, not like it was running some Gta like physics in the background.
Not saying 60fps was some unobtainable goal here but i was aiming for higher @ 1080p and i can therefore say i was highly dissapointed by SRIV.
On my 5 year old PC (i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz) with a 1 year old mid-end GPU (660ti) SRIV ran perfectly at 2560x1440.
Goldenroad
Member
I could never go back to being a single platform gamer.
PC-XBOX-PLAYSTATION-NINTENDO 4 Lyphe!
PC-XBOX-PLAYSTATION-NINTENDO 4 Lyphe!
WarlockTheWise
Member
Over 20 years worth which should all still be playable.
Actually, he does have a real PC for most purposes.
Best thing about PC gaming is the freedom, man.
I wholly agree. However, a laptop doesn't give you the freedom to choose and upgrade your own hardware components, or the freedom to get the same gaming performance for 1/2 the price, or the freedom to overclock and further increase your performance per $ spent. It's just not a good choice as a gaming platform unless you really need portability.
Maybe its because I am a working adult.. but I dont understand how everyone seems to have time for "both". Currently I have so many PC games I want to play but I simply dont have the time.. why would I want to buy a console and make that even worse? It would be like buying an expensive dust collector.
That depends entirely on how much OP cares about the exclusives.
Gintoki313
Banned
I had that feeling when I got my first gaming PC as well. I was astounded by the smooth gameplay, and the Steam sales were ridiculous.
That lasted about a week until my hands started hurting from going kb/m. I found out the hard way that I need controllers to play games comfortably. Some games on PC I get uninterested in unless it has controller support, and I found that most of the ones I wanted didn't have it. So I went back to consoles, but still game on PC regularly.
Also some games are a hassle to get started. I've had 4 games so far that took me about an hour to get started because they had problems. It's not a nice experience to have to troubleshoot games.
I game on PC as much as I game on consoles, but still likes consoles better. Only for the guaranteed controller support, exclusives, and pop the game in and play feel.
That lasted about a week until my hands started hurting from going kb/m. I found out the hard way that I need controllers to play games comfortably. Some games on PC I get uninterested in unless it has controller support, and I found that most of the ones I wanted didn't have it. So I went back to consoles, but still game on PC regularly.
Also some games are a hassle to get started. I've had 4 games so far that took me about an hour to get started because they had problems. It's not a nice experience to have to troubleshoot games.
I game on PC as much as I game on consoles, but still likes consoles better. Only for the guaranteed controller support, exclusives, and pop the game in and play feel.
I find it difficult to go back to consoles too, but I do when there is a game worth checking out (Xenoblade, Last of Us). Consoles are just inconvenient: I start up the PS3 after months of not using it and am forced to install updates I don't really need. Then the game itself has to update. I have to set up the entertainment system and all that beforehand too, especially if what I want to play is on a console I don't currently have hooked up. I may have to charge the PS3 controller too.
The Wii is an even bigger nightmare because of the Wiimote batteries. When I bought the Wii for the first time and realized it required batteries I was shell-shocked. I just couldn't believe it. I felt like I had been transported back to 1990.
And while I do love the content of video games like Xenoblade and Last of Us, their technical flaws are undeniable: terrible graphics or terrible framerate. Pick one.
The worst part about consoles is that I don't need them. My PC could run 18 copies of Last of Us simultaneously at 60 FPS. I'm not really buying consoles--I'm just buying permission to play exclusive games. And it's becoming more and more difficult to justify buying consoles for just one or two games.
I would love it if every video game was multiplat, but that will never happen.
The Wii is an even bigger nightmare because of the Wiimote batteries. When I bought the Wii for the first time and realized it required batteries I was shell-shocked. I just couldn't believe it. I felt like I had been transported back to 1990.
And while I do love the content of video games like Xenoblade and Last of Us, their technical flaws are undeniable: terrible graphics or terrible framerate. Pick one.
The worst part about consoles is that I don't need them. My PC could run 18 copies of Last of Us simultaneously at 60 FPS. I'm not really buying consoles--I'm just buying permission to play exclusive games. And it's becoming more and more difficult to justify buying consoles for just one or two games.
I would love it if every video game was multiplat, but that will never happen.
A good example is Battlefield 4: £55 for the game and premium. It's £60 on a next gen console just for the game.
dano1
A Sheep
I had the reverse experience.
I had a rare night where I had time to game a couple of weeks ago and somehow ran into three games that all had some issues where I needed to disable my webcam driver or keyboard and mouse needed to be unplugged or something. By the time I got something running, half the evening had evaporated while troubleshooting. I'd rather play an inferior version that runs than a superior version that I need to work for.
I had a rare night where I had time to game a couple of weeks ago and somehow ran into three games that all had some issues where I needed to disable my webcam driver or keyboard and mouse needed to be unplugged or something. By the time I got something running, half the evening had evaporated while troubleshooting. I'd rather play an inferior version that runs than a superior version that I need to work for.
Hey, that's cool too. I wasn't trying to convince you. Just saying that I also don't like sitting at a desk so I don't. I dig all of my platforms, PC just happens to be one of them and for me it's just as awesome from my couch. You're free to dig what you want.
blankempathy
Member
PC for multiplats and consoles for exclusives is how I do it. One of the big reasons I'm still into Nintendo over Sony/microsoft but Sony is getting up there in terms of quality exclusives.
Or he's doing himself a massive service by saving a lot of money not buying multi-hundred dollar consoles(plus games) just for a few exclusives.
Compelling exclusives that won't even exist for the foreseeable future.
Future PhaZe
Member
As someone who's literally sold a ps4 and xbox one already this gen all I can is
I know that feel
I know that feel
Not everyone can afford to spend their time and/or money on both, you know.
Future PhaZe
Member
pretty much
There are more than a few console exlcusives on my top ten list of game of the generation and as good as those games were at the end of the day it probably wasn't worth the investment.
The amount of ridiculously good looking cheap games on PC is beyond counting--there's a certain point where if you want more then you probably should look into the mirror regarding your priorities. I'll admit I wanted to experience them all last gen so I had all platforms, but in hindsight that was just the addict in me speaking.
Clarkus Darkus
Member
PS4 all the way, The thing cost £349 and is a great machine to game on with a sleek controller and console exclusives are more appealing than ones on PC for me personally but kudos to those who do the opposite, I actually like owning the games I buy and freely lending or selling them which I wouldn't give up for steam sales or anything similar.
BlazeBreak
Member
Spend time researching, speak to any friends you have that might have experience building PCs, make use of the GAF thread, and watch videos like the newegg tutorials on putting a PC together.
I knew very little specifics when it came to PC hardware beforehand, but had no issues doing my build.
I wanted to go PC, the only problem I have with PC is it's extremely expensive for the hardware. And with software I like to buy games when they go super cheap or are used, then resell the games after I am done. I'm a type of gamer that doesn't buy new games at release. With my PS3 I bought games when they drop to £10, play the game then trde the game for £6 when I'm done or I am too busy with a backlog of free PSN+ games. I can't get used games or resell games on Steam, I barely spend money on buying games on PS3 thanks to Instant Game Collection and used games and reselling games. Finally I like to play games with a controller on the couc, which I know is possible, but for online games I don't want to get destroyed by accurate Keyboard and Mouse players, also sometime the online community is not as big as the console version or not many of my real life friends are gaming on a PC.
So in colclusion the combination of extremely expensive hardware, no used games, no reselling of games, no Instant Game Collection and getting destroyed by K+M players if I play with a controller is the reason I have never bothered to get into PC gaming.
So in colclusion the combination of extremely expensive hardware, no used games, no reselling of games, no Instant Game Collection and getting destroyed by K+M players if I play with a controller is the reason I have never bothered to get into PC gaming.
If anything PS4's brought me back to consoles for the first couple of years until I feel like upgrading. It felt pretty good playing Bf4 with my friends last night like we used to on 360 (even if the game kind of sucks). I'll go back to PC mostly when I feel like performance on consoles are getting to the point of being unbearable again, which hopefully won't happen as much as it did last gen.
I've never understood people who live game by game, selling one to buy one, not like i want a collection mind you but i really don't see much point in getting rid of my games once i've finished them.
It's probably me
cm osi
Member
money, obviously. if you don't play it anymore sell it, and buy another one.
Well in that case, many of us are "dumb". There are many experiences to have on the PC not available on consoles, its just a matter of what you feel gives a more compelling experience.
OP, welcome back, things are thriving!
So... you have an Xbone?
But what if i want to play it again, i'd have to buy it......again.
Also i'm not rich but when i want a game i tend to always have the money for it, i probably have weird spending habits.
For anyone interested in PC gaming and is on the fence based on it being "expensive", here is a repost of how I did and will continue my PC gaming this gen:
Ok just gonna throw in my two cents. This is the first gen where consoles with the exception of the WiiU and handhelds (ie the PS4 and Xbox One) are completely out of my range of choice for machines.
The only reason for this is the value of the system over its life time. I regret this as there are some great exclusives I'll miss as I did this gen, but that is a sacrifice worth taking for me.
Intial investments from pervious years include monitor, speakers etc. The very same is true for consoles, hdtv, speakers etc
I go and build a mid-level PC for between (£400 -£500) thanks to the bonus of my case and psu, drives etc carrying over from the previous gens build. If this wasn't the case I could also start from scratch and build an entry level PC for (£450 to £500). Both of these machines would already be as capable or (more likely) more capable than the PS4 or Xbox One, something that hasn't been possible at this price in previous gens. But this isn't the only reason.
As time goes on, every two years I will upgrade. This cost is justified by the savings from what would have been spent on xbox live/ps+ and the fact that every game I buy throughout this period being below £10 with the exception of games that I consider must haves, numbering between 2 - 5 each 2 year period on average (80% of the time these are priced £20 or £30). So guaranteed saving is 2 years live/ps+ is £39.99 x 2 = £79.99 (I know that these subs can be bought cheaper but considering the price difference of games I will leave it as is for a guaranteed figure.
During the two years, I will find that more recent games no longer run at 1080p avg 60fps. On the PC I have the freedom to choose the temporary sacrifice to make in order to maintain what I feel is optimal for now (1080p avg 60fps). I like AA and 1080p and AF, so those stay. I maybe choose to reduce the resolution of shadows or the physics complexity, whatever I feel provides the biggest gains and least loss of quality. Never in the previous gen was this loss of quality worse than those on the consoles.
The two year mark is reached and I get to choose what to upgrade. Typically, I'm an nvidia guy who uses the gtx ?60 series of cards when they are priced between £150 and £200. An example from the previous gen, I sold my gtx 260 for £90 and bought the new one for £170 therefore a cost of £80, I still fell like I have saved here due to no subscription fees and this exceeded by my way of purchasing games.
As above what happens in the following 2 year periods is what decides what I upgrade, selling the old components and buying the new ones, maintaining that margin of cost.
Now what blows me away and will always keep me on the PC is that the upgrade I have made, not only allows me to play games at a quality that is now even more significantly ahead of the console. I get to experience the PC exclusive titles at a higher fidelity and the performance gains are further increased in all my previous games. In some games it feels like its a whole new experience with the increases in frame rate and graphic features. In the previous gen, the jump from gtx 260 to gtx 460 for example, brought in tessellation increases, that looked and performed incredibly. Going from fairly ok ocean and water simulations to out right epic ones was stunning.
Moreover, what really matters is that I think VR will be a big deal this gen. My upgrades, in theory will allow me to experience VR in the 90<120fps range at >1080P, an experience that will not be possible elsewhere at this fidelity.
Now obviously, this is just my case and it just so happens that how I purchase my games (through sales, bundles etc and probably now also through family sharing), allows me to do all these upgrades and experience better quality while still saving a ton of money. If your habits are different and you have no interest in playing your old titles or VR or RTS or whatever, then console are a good solution.
But all this combined with the freedom to also work and create, as well as experience the thousands of community enhancements and mods for games old and new, makes PC an even clearer choice than it ever has been in any generation prior
Ok just gonna throw in my two cents. This is the first gen where consoles with the exception of the WiiU and handhelds (ie the PS4 and Xbox One) are completely out of my range of choice for machines.
The only reason for this is the value of the system over its life time. I regret this as there are some great exclusives I'll miss as I did this gen, but that is a sacrifice worth taking for me.
Intial investments from pervious years include monitor, speakers etc. The very same is true for consoles, hdtv, speakers etc
I go and build a mid-level PC for between (£400 -£500) thanks to the bonus of my case and psu, drives etc carrying over from the previous gens build. If this wasn't the case I could also start from scratch and build an entry level PC for (£450 to £500). Both of these machines would already be as capable or (more likely) more capable than the PS4 or Xbox One, something that hasn't been possible at this price in previous gens. But this isn't the only reason.
As time goes on, every two years I will upgrade. This cost is justified by the savings from what would have been spent on xbox live/ps+ and the fact that every game I buy throughout this period being below £10 with the exception of games that I consider must haves, numbering between 2 - 5 each 2 year period on average (80% of the time these are priced £20 or £30). So guaranteed saving is 2 years live/ps+ is £39.99 x 2 = £79.99 (I know that these subs can be bought cheaper but considering the price difference of games I will leave it as is for a guaranteed figure.
During the two years, I will find that more recent games no longer run at 1080p avg 60fps. On the PC I have the freedom to choose the temporary sacrifice to make in order to maintain what I feel is optimal for now (1080p avg 60fps). I like AA and 1080p and AF, so those stay. I maybe choose to reduce the resolution of shadows or the physics complexity, whatever I feel provides the biggest gains and least loss of quality. Never in the previous gen was this loss of quality worse than those on the consoles.
The two year mark is reached and I get to choose what to upgrade. Typically, I'm an nvidia guy who uses the gtx ?60 series of cards when they are priced between £150 and £200. An example from the previous gen, I sold my gtx 260 for £90 and bought the new one for £170 therefore a cost of £80, I still fell like I have saved here due to no subscription fees and this exceeded by my way of purchasing games.
As above what happens in the following 2 year periods is what decides what I upgrade, selling the old components and buying the new ones, maintaining that margin of cost.
Now what blows me away and will always keep me on the PC is that the upgrade I have made, not only allows me to play games at a quality that is now even more significantly ahead of the console. I get to experience the PC exclusive titles at a higher fidelity and the performance gains are further increased in all my previous games. In some games it feels like its a whole new experience with the increases in frame rate and graphic features. In the previous gen, the jump from gtx 260 to gtx 460 for example, brought in tessellation increases, that looked and performed incredibly. Going from fairly ok ocean and water simulations to out right epic ones was stunning.
Moreover, what really matters is that I think VR will be a big deal this gen. My upgrades, in theory will allow me to experience VR in the 90<120fps range at >1080P, an experience that will not be possible elsewhere at this fidelity.
Now obviously, this is just my case and it just so happens that how I purchase my games (through sales, bundles etc and probably now also through family sharing), allows me to do all these upgrades and experience better quality while still saving a ton of money. If your habits are different and you have no interest in playing your old titles or VR or RTS or whatever, then console are a good solution.
But all this combined with the freedom to also work and create, as well as experience the thousands of community enhancements and mods for games old and new, makes PC an even clearer choice than it ever has been in any generation prior
Phrozenflame500
Member
Looks like the platform dick measuring has already begun.
Welcome to the brotherhood OP, may Gaben bless you with high framerates and low prices.
Welcome to the brotherhood OP, may Gaben bless you with high framerates and low prices.
TheAssist
Member
PC has a better overall experience imho. I started with PS1, then 2, then 3 and somewhere between 2 and 3 I got a PC (which was basically a leftover from my mom, who bought a notebook). I upgraded it (dat feel of "tuning" your own machine) and step by step I became a PC gamer. I still play my playstation for exclusives and I will buy a PS 4 in maybe 2 or 3 years for the same reason.
All in all the PC gaming feels like you get more for your money. But I can see both sides and they are all equally valid, its just a matter of personal taste in the end, since nothing is inherently better
All in all the PC gaming feels like you get more for your money. But I can see both sides and they are all equally valid, its just a matter of personal taste in the end, since nothing is inherently better
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Loving my PS4 and Wii U. Now that I've permanently written off Microsoft's Xbone I might fill the void at some point with a gaming PC. But no point in doing so now when there's not going to be a huge difference. I'll wait a few years to where it will be worthwhile.
True but he got given it. If you get a modern gaming laptop you don't want, pm me and I will happily take it off your hands!
Always-honest
Banned
Welcome to feel good about yourself and depriving yourself from other great stuff.
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