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I don't buy that all alcohol has the same effect.

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SURGEdude

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So I consider myself a person who doesn't know anything but generaly trusts the experts.

However science views my presumption as wrong. Yet most people I've met agree that different drinks produce different feels.

To put it straight:
Beer alcohol feels different from:
Vodka, Gin, and Sake.
and also,
Brown liquor is a whole different thing as well.


I'm curious about how people that drink see (or don't) the different effects of certain liquors.

Also happy to hear other arenas where right or wrong people just think their right about anti-science beliefs.
 
yes you are right they have a similar effect but all in their own way. I like the way a certain type of whisky feels when i drink it compared to Makers or Jack. 303 Whisky feels cleaner and is distilled with potatoes.
 
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that not all alcohols affected you the same way? All of my experience is anecdotal, but there was a chemist friend in college I knew who had an explanation for it
 
I mean I feel a difference between drinking beer/wine/liquor. But getting drunk is getting drunk. The only thing that changes is how much you enjoy getting there with what you're drinking.

I don't think I would agree that getting drunk on vodka feels any different than getting drunk on whiskey. Or even tequila for that matter. Its all just a mental perception of it.

But yes, I would agree a difference between beer/liquor/wine. But even that I would attribute to mostly how much alcohol you can ingest at varying paces depending on the medium. (Slowly drinking 6 beers over 2 hours, verses slamming whiskey shots down rapidly.)
 
I've seen my gf do shots all night and walk it off like a soldier, but two glasses of red with dinner and she's rolling about the place.
 
I believe ethanol affects you in the same way but different drinks have different amounts of sugar, fats, and other things that can effect how you feel.

There is all so the set and setting which is important for most psychoactive drugs and the amount and quickness of consumption
 
Are we talking about the feeling of actually drinking it, or the feeling of the end result (i.e. intoxication)?

Because yeah, each drink has it's own "feeling" when it's going down, but from my experience when you're drunk, you're drunk. There's different degrees and severity of it, different speeds at which it happens, but drunk is drunk.
 
I feel like I stay drunk longer with beer. Maybe it's the volume? I kinda call bs though every time someone says they only go crazy drinking X even though it has the same alcohol content as Z.
 
Tequila turns me into a madman like no other alcohol.
 
Are we talking about the feeling of actually drinking it, or the feeling of the end result (i.e. intoxication)?

Because yeah, each drink has it's own "feeling" when it's going down, but from my experience when you're drunk, you're drunk. There's different degrees and severity of it, but drunk is drunk.

The final effect or drunkenness/feel. Or at least that was my intention.

Mouthfeel and the like are irelevant to my argument.
 
Royal Reserve Rye Whiskey (aka rowdy rye) makes you fight your best friend. Every single fucking time. Like, drink a bunch of that shit and then don't even bother resisting, just punch your best friend in the face.
 
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Most of this sounds like anecdotal bullshit to me. Where the science at?
 
Different booze hits me in different ways. Red wine, vodka, and tequila will fuck me up pretty nicely yet, and certainly rum and whiskey are different kinds of drunks.

YMMV :P
 
The final effect or drunkenness/feel. Or at least that was my intention.

Mouthfeel and the like are irelevant to my argument.
Ah okay, that's what I thought.

Yeah, like I said, from my personal (admittedly somewhat limited) experience there's no difference from drink to drink. Rum drunk is the same as whiskey drunk is the same as vodka drunk. I'm sure it's possible I'll find something that affects me different at some point though.
 
Cogeners may also affect the drink's alcoholic content, and, as a result, account for slight "drunk differences" felt between drinks:
Congeners are minor compounds other than ethanol that occur naturally in alcohol beverages as a result of distilling and fermenting processes. While ethanol itself is the main source of hangover (subjective distress) and other residual effects of alcohol (cognitive and behavioral), the role of the congeners is of interest due to the potential toxicity of many of them despite their minute quantities. Survey studies, while comparing beer to liquor to wine, have generally not addressed beverage effects that clearly differ in congener content. The few experimental studies indicate that the highest congener beverage (bourbon) results in more severe hangover ratings than does the beverage with essentially no congeners (vodka), although ethanol effects per se had a considerably stronger effect on hangover than did congener content. Safety-sensitive performance that was affected by alcohol intoxication the previous night (vigilance with reaction time; ataxia) was not differentially affected by bourbon versus vodka. The paucity of studies indicates more work is needed in order to have confidence in these results.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20712591
 
Also, depends on the proof of the drink (obvious), as well as how you drink them (doing shots vs. sipping wine).

that's kinda what I was saying. The main ingredient is the same and effects you the same but there are so many variables on how its consumed and whats consumed with it, and its concentration.

Its like all drugs. Different strains of weed affect people differently. DIfferent sources of caffine have different affects, doctors play with how we consume simple medicines all the time.
 
Drinking cheap clear liquor that smells like turpentine is going to fuck you up the next day way more than drinking some fine cognac. I really think its the other garbage in the drinks that is strengthening or lightening the effect.
 
This may be off topic, forgive me if so, but I havent forgotten about your horse you supposedly rode to work OP. Why did you leave us hanging.
 
that's kinda what I was saying. The main ingredient is the same and effects you the same but there are so many variables on how its consumed and whats consumed with it, and its concentration.

Its like all drugs. Different strains of weed affect people differently. DIfferent sources of caffine have different affects, doctors play with how we consume simple medicines all the time.
Yep. Each drink seems to have its own "culture" around it, which not only manifest themselves as what what you listed, but also a general environmental "feel". Kind of like how visiting San Francisco makes me feel adventurous, and my hometown makes me feel nostalgic. Interesting stuff.
Aren't those responsible for the dreaded "wine hangover"?
Perhaps it has a role in it (they may enhance the alcoholic effects). I'd say a big part of it is that people tend to sip their wine, and the "drunk factor" comes at them slower (and when they wake up, their body gets the full effect).
 
A standard beer is about 5% abv, wine 12% abv, and liquor 40% abv. A shot of 40% vodka is going to feel different than sipping a 5% beer due to how fast the alcohol is entering your system. Set and setting will definitely affect your mood as well.
 
A standard beer is about 5% abv, wine 12% abv, and liquor 40% abv. A shot of 40% vodka is going to feel different than sipping a 5% beer due to how fast the alcohol is entering your system. Set and setting will definitely affect your mood as well.

What happens if you drink some Natty Light in the Palace of Versailles?
 
Drinking whiskey makes me immediately more angry (like almost furious) and completely anti-social, while every other drink makes me mellow and social and giddy.

It might just be some psychological reaction since my on and off alcoholic dad's drink of choice is whiskey....
 
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