Langdon Alger
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You can buy a pre-built PC. It's a little pricey, but it saves the time and headache of building one. And you don't have to deal with the PC community.
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You can buy a pre-built PC. It's a little pricey, but it saves the time and headache of building one. And you don't have to deal with the PC community.
People can have money and be able to afford something while still not being able to justify it. There's a lot of things I'd like to have and have the money for. But that doesn't mean I should go and buy all of these things. I try and be somewhat responsible with how I spend my money. That doesn't mean I don't splash out on stuff once in a while, but it does mean I don't splash out on anything and everything I want.
If I already own a platform that plays the large majority of what I want to play, then I really need to make a case for good value if I buy into another platform, as it becomes more of a luxury(assuming I consider owning at least one platform a necessity!). Otherwise I just don't feel its a good use of my money.
Yea, but its better to be a part of the console community, where people are much more reasonable and mature...
Ecto311
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I wanted to go this route a while ago so I built a decent pc for gaming but in the end it's a shitload of micromanaging that I don't enjoy. Getting older I don't have time to trouble shoot errors, update drivers, edit txt files, read tutorials on specific mods and keep up with all that. Plus having a kid that's 5yrs old now pc gaming is the worst for her and a headache 10x more than it ever was for me. iPad and wiiu work so much better for her and she enjoys it so much more than any PC experience she has had so far.
Seen that you said you never have to go to a gamestop again? Amazon? Order games? Best buy gamer club? I don't see the problem with gamestop either. The store is what you make it to me. It can be a hive of preorder lies and body odor or it can be a quick stop for a good deal on a cheap older game.
And to the "okay" posts - why. What does that do? Are you guys tied to a quota and have to post so many times a day? I can't think of anything that comes from that type of post but maybe I am too old to get it.
Seen that you said you never have to go to a gamestop again? Amazon? Order games? Best buy gamer club? I don't see the problem with gamestop either. The store is what you make it to me. It can be a hive of preorder lies and body odor or it can be a quick stop for a good deal on a cheap older game.
And to the "okay" posts - why. What does that do? Are you guys tied to a quota and have to post so many times a day? I can't think of anything that comes from that type of post but maybe I am too old to get it.
...then it was an issue of money. Now if you said you don't have time to play all the games on a single platform, that's one thing, but you argued against his monetary issue with...a monetary issue.
I'm saying there's more to 'money issues' than just not having money.
The best games on PC still are very old games that run on almost any rig, "best" meaning the most popular using any metric you want to use. CS: GO, WoW, Diablo 2/3, Starcraft 2, Minecraft, LoL, DOTA 2, TF2 etc. Popularity =/= best, sure. But how many people are still playing Crysis 3? Or any game that can push a PC to the max?
Yeah Unity, Hardline, Farcry 4 etc on PC all run and look better on PC, and Batman and all next big releases will look and run better on PC but you are done with those games within a week or two, and then go straight back to whatever older PC game you are into (any of the above).
Just sticking with a older PC and consoles works fine for me.
Consoles are great for "game of the week" type releases, the few exclusives and having big sports and fighting game communities.
Yeah Unity, Hardline, Farcry 4 etc on PC all run and look better on PC, and Batman and all next big releases will look and run better on PC but you are done with those games within a week or two, and then go straight back to whatever older PC game you are into (any of the above).
Just sticking with a older PC and consoles works fine for me.
Consoles are great for "game of the week" type releases, the few exclusives and having big sports and fighting game communities.
solokazama
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Right, but he didn't say that. Also, I'm just pulling your chain.
The biggest advantages that consoles had over PC was :
1. Local Multiplayer.
2. Playing with pad on big TV screen sitting in comfy chair.
Now that line is blurred. Every game supports pad on PC thanks to direct input. And connecting TV to PC is easier than ever. So the advantage of consoles decline. And games like MK9, Injustice or Street Fighter are available on PC now. That was't the case back in a day. Some local multiplayer games where available on PC. Like MK3 for example. But overall experience was held back by no pad support. Or cumbersome at best. The fact that most console games now put more focus into multiplayer experience (internet one not local) isn't helping either. Because PC always excelled at it. So why bother buy a console when PC can do everything and more nowadays. Exclusives is the only thing I can think of. Current gen is looking bland in that departmend right now (except WII U). Hope it will change soon.
1. Local Multiplayer.
2. Playing with pad on big TV screen sitting in comfy chair.
Now that line is blurred. Every game supports pad on PC thanks to direct input. And connecting TV to PC is easier than ever. So the advantage of consoles decline. And games like MK9, Injustice or Street Fighter are available on PC now. That was't the case back in a day. Some local multiplayer games where available on PC. Like MK3 for example. But overall experience was held back by no pad support. Or cumbersome at best. The fact that most console games now put more focus into multiplayer experience (internet one not local) isn't helping either. Because PC always excelled at it. So why bother buy a console when PC can do everything and more nowadays. Exclusives is the only thing I can think of. Current gen is looking bland in that departmend right now (except WII U). Hope it will change soon.
In a way, PC gaming looks better than ever, due to STEAM.
But heres the thing, there is not a single big budget game that I can think of that is being made for PC. All those games, are just console ports.
I don't see how I can justify splurging on a pricey beast of a PC when there isn't a single game even made designed around my expensive hardware. Instead, they are just console games with higher rez and frame rates. But the actual game? Exact same on console. Same assets, same number of enemies, same maps. Thats not good enough with the money being thrown down.
I dunno. If I am paying all that money, I'd actually like games to be made for that hardware. But games are designed with console limitations in mind, not designed around PC hardware, ever. Perhaps VR will change all this.
Local multiplay is my favorite bit about gaming anyway, and I don't really have anyone to play, so I'm shit outta luck anyways.
But heres the thing, there is not a single big budget game that I can think of that is being made for PC. All those games, are just console ports.
I don't see how I can justify splurging on a pricey beast of a PC when there isn't a single game even made designed around my expensive hardware. Instead, they are just console games with higher rez and frame rates. But the actual game? Exact same on console. Same assets, same number of enemies, same maps. Thats not good enough with the money being thrown down.
I dunno. If I am paying all that money, I'd actually like games to be made for that hardware. But games are designed with console limitations in mind, not designed around PC hardware, ever. Perhaps VR will change all this.
Local multiplay is my favorite bit about gaming anyway, and I don't really have anyone to play, so I'm shit outta luck anyways.
PC developers are motivated to target the largest demographic possible in terms of specs in order to maximize sales.
This means that it is counter intuitive to create a graphically intensive game. Though there are games like Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, and Unreal Tournament that are real lookers and, of course, multiplatform games will run significantly better.
It doesn't matter when you have broad range of flexibility with those ports. You can set higher resolution, better AF, AO and many more post processing effects that you don't have acces to on console. Plus mods community fixed bugs etc. This adds up to better experience on PC.
El_Cinefilo
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He pretty much said that, It's just that to him and many others It's not worth the expense/hassle of buying or building an expensive gaming pc to play the same games on higher graphical settings
Orniletter
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I understand where you're coming from, OP.
I like japanese thirdparty games a lot, so I pretty much have to get every PlayStation system....but I can't say the thought of just building a gaming PC instead of buying a PS4 never crossed my mind.
Sony as a publisher really hasn't been great the last couple of years aside from some absolute gems here and there, it's so frustrating to see those powerful and somewhat desirable machines on storeshelves.....and then there is just nothing (aside from Bloodborne) that takes advantage of it all that I couldn't play on my ok-ish Laptop instead.....or even on my PS3 if I felt like it.
Things are looking up though, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, MGS 5 etc. are shaping up nicely
I like japanese thirdparty games a lot, so I pretty much have to get every PlayStation system....but I can't say the thought of just building a gaming PC instead of buying a PS4 never crossed my mind.
Sony as a publisher really hasn't been great the last couple of years aside from some absolute gems here and there, it's so frustrating to see those powerful and somewhat desirable machines on storeshelves.....and then there is just nothing (aside from Bloodborne) that takes advantage of it all that I couldn't play on my ok-ish Laptop instead.....or even on my PS3 if I felt like it.
Things are looking up though, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, MGS 5 etc. are shaping up nicely
MickeyPhree
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I'm a one console a generation guy. Don't see myself ever owning an xbone. Did have a wii u for a time but gave it to my daughter to leave at her moms house.
Fair enough. But you don't have to do that. You can play most of theese games on mid range PC that cost 400-500$ and get same results. Care free experience that consoles offer often backfire with sub 30 fps gameplay. And only thing thats left is praying for patch on console.
Leafhopper
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I have a decently powered PC and a WiiU. I really don't have an interest in a PS4 or XB1 at all stll.
I know, but its usually what people mean by 'money issues'. But yea.
You don't need to spend a ton of money on a beast PC.
But personally, I find playing console games at 60fps with better IQ well worth having a fairly nice PC.
And of course there's quite a few games you can mod, to add in new assets or push the graphics harder than on consoles.
And you're still spending more money on a pc than you would on a single console that'll never need to be upgraded and will play every game from now until the generation ends.I know, but its usually what people mean by 'money issues'. But yea.
You don't need to spend a ton of money on a beast PC.
But personally, I find playing console games at 60fps with better IQ well worth having a fairly nice PC.
And of course there's quite a few games you can mod, to add in new assets or push the graphics harder than on consoles.
El_Cinefilo
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There seems to be a common disagreement,misunderstanding or misconception by either console or pc gamers about how much a gaming pc costs. I'm genuinely not sure.
How much would a gaming pc cost that would play for example, Witcher 3 or AC: Unity on higher settings than PS4? (preferably in £'s but I guess American prices would be similar)
How much would a gaming pc cost that would play for example, Witcher 3 or AC: Unity on higher settings than PS4? (preferably in £'s but I guess American prices would be similar)
I asked this question to the "major" pc bros in another thread. They skirted around the question with "that's the beauty, you can build a PC however you like" but that's not what I asked. I asked a person who's always shitting on console graphics how much he paid to "fully enjoy the best of gaming" he still didn't answer until he reluctantly took a screen shot of the components he has. I find that odd, are they afraid to show how much they spend so they wave their dick in a graphics thread?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944920
Hard to tell. The game is not relased yet so we can't compare PS4 version to PC with certain setting on/off.
I would say $600 at minimum (on mobile so I haven't looked up prices). Although at that price range, you will have a 2GB graphics card that might suffer in the long run. I find both sides tend to exaggerate the costs.
This right here. PS4 for exclusives, PC for FPS and WiiU for gaming with GF
Nothing wrong with this and everyone has their reasons - but wouldn't owning a Wii U be even more so because of exclusives. It's fine to own a PS4 for their stuff too, but what does a PS4 even have exclusive right now worth owning?
I could two, maybe 3 games. The Order was a bust. So, you have Infamous Second Son and Bloodborne. I say 3, because you could really be into MLB sports games - and if that is the case, The Show is really good. I am guessing The Last of Us Remastered for some - but if we're counting that as a reason to own a PS4, then aren't we just verifying how few exclusives the console has?
Meanwhile, the Wii U is brimming with exclusives. It's the primary reason to own one - it has way more exclusive games than everyone else and no, it's not because "it has an extra year on everyone else". It had more exclusive games in the first YEAR than Xbox One and PS4 combined. Even more so if you count "exclusives" that weren't also available on last gen hardware.
The 3DS library isn't worth the price of a 2DS?
I spent nearly a decade as a PC only gamer, I missed out on a lot of quality experiences that I'm still catching up on, and while modern PC's have a more varied library of games it won't cover everything especially handhelds and Nintendo which have lots of mid tier games and quirky controls and OS/store enviroment
I spent nearly a decade as a PC only gamer, I missed out on a lot of quality experiences that I'm still catching up on, and while modern PC's have a more varied library of games it won't cover everything especially handhelds and Nintendo which have lots of mid tier games and quirky controls and OS/store enviroment
AntiFacebook
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I feel like you,except I think it's a positive direction rather negative.
Exclusives are just bad for gamers.
I understand your choice.
I'm not sure what more I can say about your opinion.
Personally I went to Console (I skipped OG Xbox/PS2 and was a PC gamer exclusively) because I really enjoy the longevity of the product in the sense that games will be made specifically for it's specs. As the hardware gets older, more is able to be done with it as the devs learn how to code specifically for it. Also, because of the non upgradable aspect I don't need to spend any more money during the life of the console short of it breaking.
When I had a PC I never purchased top tier products as the jump in price from previous gen/year of hardware was imo ludicrous. I would buy upper middle grade instead of the new hotness. Because of that my PC's were minimum specs within years of its creation. I would then upgrade pieces of my pc but then there is a finite amount of upgrades you can do before you need to do a complete upgrade of all parts. (I owned a pc at the infancy of when cpu's were going multi-core and PCI-E was just coming out.)
Just as I could buy a Ferrari (in terms of performance) I'm happy with my Kia Optima. It's not the best but it does what I need it to do and has enough Oomph (technical term) for me to be happy.
I've learned to settle for good instead of great. I've also got other plans of things to do with my money. (3 vacations this year!!!). I personally think there is more value in console gaming over all.
I'm not sure what more I can say about your opinion.
Personally I went to Console (I skipped OG Xbox/PS2 and was a PC gamer exclusively) because I really enjoy the longevity of the product in the sense that games will be made specifically for it's specs. As the hardware gets older, more is able to be done with it as the devs learn how to code specifically for it. Also, because of the non upgradable aspect I don't need to spend any more money during the life of the console short of it breaking.
When I had a PC I never purchased top tier products as the jump in price from previous gen/year of hardware was imo ludicrous. I would buy upper middle grade instead of the new hotness. Because of that my PC's were minimum specs within years of its creation. I would then upgrade pieces of my pc but then there is a finite amount of upgrades you can do before you need to do a complete upgrade of all parts. (I owned a pc at the infancy of when cpu's were going multi-core and PCI-E was just coming out.)
Just as I could buy a Ferrari (in terms of performance) I'm happy with my Kia Optima. It's not the best but it does what I need it to do and has enough Oomph (technical term) for me to be happy.
I've learned to settle for good instead of great. I've also got other plans of things to do with my money. (3 vacations this year!!!). I personally think there is more value in console gaming over all.
Orniletter
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The thing is, that upfront costs for the hardware are only half the story.
Every multiplat game is
pretty much
...then there are no online fees for PS+ or Gold etc..... it's a bit unfair to look at the upfront costs in a vacuum
PelekotansDream
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Okay, I won't skirt around the answer. My PC costs me £1,000 compared to my £350 PS4. PC gaming is more expensive, I fully believe that however it's premium pricing, what you get is backwards compatibility, the option to remaster your games free of charge, to take part in genres that are largely missing on consoles like RTS games or MOBAs, you can also tailor the game to suit your needs and desires with mod support. You pay more, but you get more.
The other day I played System Shock 2, that's for Windows 98, I added mods, improved the lighting and set the resolution to 1080, you can't just go and do that with a game on a console, you just have to hope it get's released and pay for it again or you keep your old console.
I don't know what that has to do with my post at all.
I never said to not buy a console. :/
EDIT: Ah ok, you're one of those 'chip on your shoulder' types.
hobblygobbly
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I've owned pretty much every console (except original Xbox) over all these years, I owned them just for exclusive titles otherwise I played games on my PC.
In the past the consoles always had very good library of exclusives, but I'm not in the best financial situation right now - it's not bad, I just don't have much free money left over to do what I want with, not in any debt (never have been, thankfully - I'm good with using money).
I haven't bought a PS4 as a result yet, it's been out since November 2013 and it's March 2015 and the only game I'm interested in is Bloodborne and despite putting hundreds of hours across all Soul games I can't justify buying a PS4 in my situation just for a single game. I'll always buy consoles when it's worth it to me, I've finished my PS3 backlog, but right now other than Bloodborne there's no reason for me to have a PS4, in the future when the catalogue is better I'll get it then. Just right now financially ir doesn't work for me. So yeah when it's worth it for me I'll always buy a console - all that matters is catalogue to me.
In the past the consoles always had very good library of exclusives, but I'm not in the best financial situation right now - it's not bad, I just don't have much free money left over to do what I want with, not in any debt (never have been, thankfully - I'm good with using money).
I haven't bought a PS4 as a result yet, it's been out since November 2013 and it's March 2015 and the only game I'm interested in is Bloodborne and despite putting hundreds of hours across all Soul games I can't justify buying a PS4 in my situation just for a single game. I'll always buy consoles when it's worth it to me, I've finished my PS3 backlog, but right now other than Bloodborne there's no reason for me to have a PS4, in the future when the catalogue is better I'll get it then. Just right now financially ir doesn't work for me. So yeah when it's worth it for me I'll always buy a console - all that matters is catalogue to me.
Solid Samus
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Who's 'they'?
The entire group of people you want to let one person you disagreed with represent in order to validate your us vs them attitude?
PC GAF tends to be pretty cool. Don't know where you're coming from.
And I've seen the cost-analysis of building a gaming PC, which has been provided on this forum before and can probably be found with a little bit of googling. And it's pretty invariably more expensive to build a gaming PC, though even for $500-$700 you're usually getting something intrinsically much more capable in many senses so it just depends on your proclivity toward PC gaming, how much you enjoy it, its selection in particular vs console games, and whether or not that extra cost is worth it to you in the end
this is real nonsense. All of it. Every last bit of that post demonstrates to me you're not particularly aware of how expansive the PC's library is at all. My god, I seriously just can't believe you just made the argument with a straight face that playing on PC limits what you can play relative to modern consoles. Fuck, I'd probably get argumentative if I weren't so dumbfounded
I'm not even sure I'd personally vouch for owning a console alongside a PC unless it's a Wii U specifically because of that diversity, because the diversity you're describing ain't even on PS4 and Xbox One yet. I owned a PS4 and Xbox One before I even bought my PC. And as much as I wanted to love my PS4 in particular... well your 'diverse' list of released exclusive titles so far really says more than I ever could. Of course I'll buy back in for R&C, Uncharted, and God of War at some point :3 but until then, I'll be enjoying a frankly shocking number of quality exclusives built over 10+ years alongside the best versions of multiplatform games, which kinda seem to make up the bulk of console libraries anyway right now aside from mostly the outliers you're posting as being totally indicative of the experience and diversity of these consoles.
diggmcbadass
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I always felt the price thing was not really where you win the argument. I recently helped a friend of mine build a PC with the absolute minimum specs I would recommend for modern gaming with a bit of future proofing, and it cost a few hundred bucks more than I had imagined it would. If the pricing is a really important factor, people should just stick to consoles.
The up front cost will be higher, the price for games over the lifetime of the system will be lower, and the pressure to upgrade before the console cycle will be higher. If you are conscious about it, you can probably have it even out over the lifetime of a console. But most people who get a PC will spend more simply because you have the option to make meaningful upgrades.
This argument gets more amusing every time I see it. By that I mean the assumption that 12 games or so picked by one person across two consoles are the most choice games to have and the only thing a PC can offer is a "limited" selection of games outside of that genre.
The simple truth is that no game can replace any other game, because they will never be identical, so then arguments become pointless.
Another simple truth is that the amount of games and exploration of them in every genre is increased by an order of magnitude on PC. A list many times longer by orders of magnitude could be made with games from similar genres and genres that don't even exist on the consoles, all fantastic games - and your argument would remain the same substituting PC with Console and vice versa.
The longivety aspect is precisely why i've been buying fewer and fewer games on console.
If i compare the library i still have acess to after 20 years of gaming the consoles look kind of bad and my console library is pretty big. Stuff just breaks down over the years and backwards compability is a rarity.
And while my PC's were more expensive than a single console they all still lasted 5-6 years. And nowadays, you have to calculate the PSN/Xbox live fees into the cost of a console since their functionality is so restricted without it. Suddenly the price difference between the two isn't that much.
PS3 had a lot of exclusives that I loved, like Infamous series and Ratchet & Clank. Im hoping PS4 will get more of that. I really enjoyed the Order, Infamous SS and will pick up Bloodborne so it's all good
I like sony exclusives. Also had a X360 for a couple of years but only liked Gears of War and Banjo Bolts n Nuts there.Yeah WiiU is also for exclusives but its the only console that my girlfriend also likes so therefore I listed is as that reason
But yes, you are correct that the WiiU has great exclusivesKing Gilga
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I bought consoles for exclusives and local multiplayer.
Both are pretty rare nowadays so yeah consoles are becoming more and more irrelevant for me.
Nintendo is the only one who still has a good amount of both but they've been dicka rhis generation, that and their lack of decent digital system makes me not want to support them.
I owned every console last gen on top of my PC but I don't think I'll own More than onethus gen, and a lot further down the line.
Both are pretty rare nowadays so yeah consoles are becoming more and more irrelevant for me.
Nintendo is the only one who still has a good amount of both but they've been dicka rhis generation, that and their lack of decent digital system makes me not want to support them.
I owned every console last gen on top of my PC but I don't think I'll own More than onethus gen, and a lot further down the line.
EdwardTeach
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No he has a PA.
I have to disagree on the price point. But yes its closer than many people realize. $400 for PS4 + $40/year for PSN (I buy it on sale) = $800 to play a PS4 for 10 years. I could buy a comparable PC for less than that, HOWEVER we both know it's within 2-3 years of being minimum specs (if not sooner). Then with upgrades down the line it will be higher over all. Plus lets be honest, who would buy a PS4 or XB1 comparable PC. I know I would spend at a (low) minimum of 1k on a new PC + Monitor and yes I mean building it myself.
As for longivity of game ownership you are totally right. A Pc will allow you to keep your games playable for years longer than a console. Plus there is no transfer of any type of licenses etc when you change pc's.
I however am not a collector and I don't replay games. I sell them to facilitate buying new games. For Example I'm buying Bloodborne today for $6 out of pocket - Game Club, $20 BB Certs and I sold Mordor for more than I paid for it last friday for $22. Plus because I ordered it I'll have $10 off my next game bringing it down to a cool $38 + Tax (i've got another $60+ on a giftcard from trade ins). I haven't paid more than $10 out of pocket for a game since last November.
I know I'm a special case in that respect. Many people on Gaf like to collect/keep their games. I don't and many PC games are just a serial code these days that you can't resell. The games over all would make the cost go up for me.
Both are Viable options depending on your circumstances and lifestyle. I was just saying for me personally, console is the way to go.
TheSlySoul
Member
Unless the next console line-up does anything interesting, I will agree.
I will be content with a PC + a Nintendo handheld. Maybe a PS5 to play the Japanese games that PC's will not get.
I will be content with a PC + a Nintendo handheld. Maybe a PS5 to play the Japanese games that PC's will not get.
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I need to get me a gaming PA.
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Solid Samus
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in the context of building and tweaking hardware? Dude, I double dog fuckin' dare you to find a more helpful and knowledgeable community on the internet that's intrinsically related to games... I'd bet you ten bucks and come home with twenty.
I think a reasonable person could argue that consoles are less relevant for PC gamers than they have ever been.
In the past, there was a wide swathe of games which were exclusive to a console or to consoles generally. Since then, two things have happened: first, consoles have fewer games released for them they used to in the Wii/PS2/PS1 era. Further, the games that do release are far more likely to be on PC, too.
Additionally, game pads work with virtually every game that could feasibly use them on PC. Again, it doesn't mean you can't play on console; I'm just showing that by any objective measure, consoles have gradually become less compelling to own for anyone who already has access to an alternative solution like a PC. If they're your only gaming solution, then all of these points are moot.
In the past, there was a wide swathe of games which were exclusive to a console or to consoles generally. Since then, two things have happened: first, consoles have fewer games released for them they used to in the Wii/PS2/PS1 era. Further, the games that do release are far more likely to be on PC, too.
Additionally, game pads work with virtually every game that could feasibly use them on PC. Again, it doesn't mean you can't play on console; I'm just showing that by any objective measure, consoles have gradually become less compelling to own for anyone who already has access to an alternative solution like a PC. If they're your only gaming solution, then all of these points are moot.
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