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CPU: Intel Core i3-4370 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor (£122.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£59.83 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£130.75 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£30.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£58.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£74.34 @ Aria PC)
Total: £567.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 13:39 GMT+0000

Wow, that's pretty reasonable. I can certainly see the appeal of that. Not something I can justify at the moment with already owning a PS4 (That I'm happy with) but it'd certainly be more tempting to me at that price than getting an Xbox one as a second console for example.

 

[Kama_1082]

Who's 'they'?
The entire group of people you want to let one person you disagreed with represent in order to validate your us vs them attitude?
PC GAF tends to be pretty cool. Don't know where you're coming from.
And I've seen the cost-analysis of building a gaming PC, which has been provided on this forum before and can probably be found with a little bit of googling. And it's pretty invariably more expensive to build a gaming PC, though even for $500-$700 you're usually getting something intrinsically much more capable in many senses so it just depends on your proclivity toward PC gaming, how much you enjoy it, its selection in particular vs console games, and whether or not that extra cost is worth it to you in the end


this is real nonsense. All of it. Every last bit of that post demonstrates to me you're not particularly aware of how expansive the PC's library is at all. My god, I seriously just can't believe you just made the argument with a straight face that playing on PC limits what you can play relative to modern consoles. Fuck, I'd probably get argumentative if I weren't so dumbfounded

I'm not even sure I'd personally vouch for owning a console alongside a PC unless it's a Wii U specifically because of that diversity, because the diversity you're describing ain't even on PS4 and Xbox One yet. I owned a PS4 and Xbox One before I even bought my PC. And as much as I wanted to love my PS4 in particular... well your 'diverse' list of released exclusive titles so far really says more than I ever could. Of course I'll buy back in for R&C, Uncharted, and God of War at some point :3 but until then, I'll be enjoying a frankly shocking number of quality exclusives built over 10+ years alongside the best versions of multiplatform games, which kinda seem to make up the bulk of console libraries anyway right now aside from mostly the outliers you're posting as being totally indicative of the experience and diversity of these consoles.

A certain poster with an nvidia avatar, but that's besides the point. My point is that if you're gonna just spend the bare minimum to get specs that are just above what the PS4/X1 what does this mean for the future of your specs? Where you're good for 2013-2015, what does this mean for games in 2017? Am I gonna have to upgrade again just to keep up with the times?

 

[LocalE]

you said simplicity, I'm just saying that building a PC is simple as hell. That's all.

Sure, its fairly simple. But anyone who dismisses all the extra fiddling about with shit that comes with it just seems very disingenuous to me.
It is a world apart from buying a console and connecting an hdmi cable to a tv.

 

[LilJoka]

Wow, that's pretty reasonable. I can certainly see the appeal of that. Not something I can justify at the moment with already owning a PS4 (That I'm happy with) but it'd certainly be more tempting to me at that price than getting an Xbox one as a second console for example.

Considering you can use any peripherals it makes even more sense.
How much more money are we supposed to spend on new X1/DS4 pads when our DS3's, 360 pads and Wii Motes all still work with PC.

 

[Jigolo]

Do what makes you happy, op.

 

[Kama_1082]

I don't know what that has to do with my post at all.

I never said to not buy a console. :/

EDIT: Ah ok, you're one of those 'chip on your shoulder' types.

It's not a chip on my shoulder, but more of annoyance from some of the PC crowd that seems to shit up a console thread regarding graphics, etc. I certainly hope that something that costs double or even triple what a PS4/Xbox One will out perform it.

 

[Swarna]

My point is that if you're gonna just spend the bare minimum to get specs that are just above what the PS4/X1 what does this mean for the future of your specs? Where you're good for 2013-2015, what does this mean for games in 2017? Am I gonna have to upgrade again just to keep up with the times?

That kind of PC will still perform better than what a PS4/XB1 will dish out in multi-platform titles. The relative performance doesn't degrade or anything like that. Upgrading will be up to you and what you're looking for out of games. For example, I haven't upgraded in 5 years and still don't feel inclined to. My next upgrade/rig will be at Star Citizen's release as that is the kind of game that will probably utilize a really powerful PC.

 

[Brandon F]

I've actually been questioning why I need a gaming pc lately(and if I'll ever upgrade again). The PS4 is providing practically identical lineups, and my gtx 970 purchase feels wasted on essentially last-gen ports and indie games fueling steam. Only a handful of current gen games have crossed over to pc, and even those look near identical to what my PS4 accomplishes.

Plenty of unique experiences on Steam, barely any requiring the $375 card I shoved into it.

 

[Peltz]

I'll never be able to ignore Nintendo's hardware. They've always made my favorite stuff and that Nintendo magic has never really gone away at any point of time since the NES era (imo).

I'd feel like I was missing out if I skipped a whole generation of their stuff.

 

[Deified Data]

That's what I thought until Bloodborne was announced. Now I have a PS4 with one game.

 

[MrBadger]

I'm not so sure myself. I'm sure I'll pick one up at some point, but right now Wii U has me covered, and there's absolutely nothing I want (or can see myself wanting) on PS4 or Xbox One that isn't also on PC, with the exception of Bloodborne and Persona 5 (also on PS3) so I don't know when I'll bite.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Sure, its fairly simple. But anyone who dismisses all the extra fiddling about with shit that comes with it just seems very disingenuous to me.
It is a world apart from buying a console and connecting an hdmi cable to a tv.

This would be true before things like the Alienware Alpha exists. Now the process is about as long as setting up your username and password for PS4.

I will also not be able to ignore Nintendo games, but the handheld will be enough for me.

I have a gaming PC as well but I hate gaming on Windows 7.

I have a love and hate relationship with PC Gaming.
I mostly now accepted that I want to game on a couch, so I will need a laptop for MMO's if I get back into one.

 

[petran79]

I have a gaming PC as well but I hate gaming on Windows 7.
I prefer playing on Windows XP and Ubuntu partition instead.
Former is much faster, while Ubuntu is both fast and you can customize everything.I use Win7 for the few Win7 exclusives. Fortunately Linux support for a lot of games is a bonus.
Initially I was skeptical when Steam debuted there, but in the long run it seems to have helped.
This customization and freedom can not be replaced by any exclusive game. This is what counts most. And not thanks to Microsoft.
I have a Dreamcast near the PC of course for the few genres not available on PC.
Makes owning a Ps3 and Ps4 redundant

 

[friday]

That's what I thought until Bloodborne was announced. Now I have a PS4 with one game.

I really don't want to buy a PS4 just for this game, but it really does seem like the coolest game to come out in a long time. If its as good as DS 1 I will want it bad.

 

[Eiolon]

I didn't think I would ever buy a console again... then I had a child. I haven't owned one since Dreamcast (moved to PC gaming), but that fatherhood instinct kicks in around 6 and you're like damn, I gotta get my kid a Nintendo. I've had lots of fun actually, probably because of my 13 year hiatus. And I still have plenty of time for my Steam backlog and World of Warcraft binges.

 

[Rezae]

That kind of PC will still perform better than what a PS4/XB1 will dish out in multi-platform titles. The relative performance doesn't degrade or anything like that. Upgrading will be up to you and what you're looking for out of games. For example, I haven't upgraded in 5 years and still don't feel inclined to. My next upgrade/rig will be at Star Citizen's release as that is the kind of game that will probably utilize a really powerful PC.

I'm in a similar boat with hardly any upgrades in over 5 years. My PC absolutely smoked the 360/PS3 when I built it ($800ish), and that hasn't changed. It still runs most games really well, and ports like MGR, Sleeping Dogs, MGS5:GZ, still run super fluid on it with settings well above last gen and hitting 1080p, 60fps.

If you build a gaming PC right now that is above current gen specs, it doesn't drop below that in 4 years. The majority of games are still designed around the consoles. Yeah you won't be able to run the most recent PC games at ultra max everything in 4 years, but if we are using the consoles as the measuring stick, you are still going to beat them on a technical level throughout their lifespan.

I don't understand this whole anti-PC argument that your parts get dated and need replaced so often... the console bar isn't getting raised for at least another 4 years.

 

[Solid Samus]

A certain poster with an nvidia avatar, but that's besides the point. My point is that if you're gonna just spend the bare minimum to get specs that are just above what the PS4/X1 what does this mean for the future of your specs? Where you're good for 2013-2015, what does this mean for games in 2017? Am I gonna have to upgrade again just to keep up with the times?

Why do you think you'd have to upgrade a decent PC to keep with the times if you don't want to? Do you need to upgrade a PS4 to keep with the times a couple years in? Yeah, when the PS5 comes out. If you own a PC that's more powerful than the PS4, it will last you just as long at a higher baseline, so long as you're okay with the same kind of performance drop-off over time we saw last generation and we'll undoubtedly see this generation.

If you're buying a PC with just those bare minimum specs (for some reason o.o), you might run into issues here and there running the latest and greatest games consistently, though odds are it'll see about as much life as its nearest equivalent console. Perhaps less (Skyrim killed my GTS 8800, but it probably wouldn't have if I lowered my settings and tweaked things to 360-level) but you'll also have a library that's fifteen years bigger and ten times cheaper on average, and a machine that can do damn near anything else you might ever want it to do.

 

[Arklite]

I could go either way. I built a gaming PC last year to run most games at max settings while recording, but there's really not much in the way of jaw dropping PC exclusive games to really make astinishing use of all those componenets. Aside from Arma 3 and DayZ, my PS4 and PC are rather redundant. You can save upfront with a PS4 or long term with a PC, but it's 90% the same games and both sides have their headaches.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

The gap between release and acquisition has gotten progressively longer every generation for me.

The last console I got at launch was the Gamecube, after that it has been going downhill slowly. I got an Xbox a year after its release, and a PS2 about two years after release.

I got a 360 about 1.5 years after its release, a PS3 about 2.5 years, and never bothered with a Wii. I didn't buy a DS or 3DS until they were on the market for about 2 years as well.

I bought a Wii U after 2 years, and it will probably be at least 2 years before I buy an XBO and PS4.

I think this will be my last generation simply because the traditional console will come to an end after this gen. Everything will get relegated to set-top boxes and streaming when the next generation is upon us around 2020.

 

[Solid Samus]

The gap between release and acquisition has gotten progressively longer every generation for me.

The last console I got at launch was the Gamecube, after that it has been going downhill slowly. I got an Xbox a year after its release, and a PS2 about two years after release.

I got a 360 about 1.5 years after its release, a PS3 about 2.5 years, and never bothered with a Wii. I didn't buy a DS or 3DS until they were on the market for about 2 years as well.

I bought a Wii U after 2 years, and it will probably be at least 2 years before I buy an XBO and PS4.

I think this will be my last generation simply because the traditional console will come to an end after this gen. Everything will get relegated to set-top boxes and streaming when the next generation is upon us around 2020.

I can imagine at least one future in which America at least does not have anything close to the internet infrastructure and ease of access required to support gaming exclusively through streaming solutions.

 

[Deified Data]

I really don't want to buy a PS4 just for this game, but it really does seem like the coolest game to come out in a long time. If its as good as DS 1 I will want it bad.

Thankfully I have Persona 5 to look forward to, but yeah, the vast majority of the games I want to play are on PC.

 

[Kezen]

I'm in the same boat. Literally nothing on consoles makes me feel I'm missing out, and as a direct result I've sold my Xbox One and PS4 to put that into my next GPU upgrade.

PC gaming just suits me better and it has all the games I need to play. Consoles have completely lost their appeal and I used to have at least one on the side in case a console exclusive interested me.

But of course no one should read into my post that a console is useless, I'm talking in my case.

 

[Opiate]

Another truth is that the PCs and iOS have so many games now that a game has to really stand out as particularly up your alley to justify the purchase of another system.

That is, even if I were to agree that something like Bayonetta 2 looked interesting (it's not for me, but this is just an example), it has to be so interesting that it supercedes anything I could possibly play on PC. There are literally hundreds of PC games released every month, with an almost infinite back catalog that includes many games-as-service which are still being regularly updated and played, such as CS, League of Legends, and Hearthstone.

So the fact that there are some good games I won't play on, say, the Xbox One, isn't all that meaningful when there are already good games I don't play on PC. I have limited time, and there are so many good games on my PC and mobile devices that I can't even realistically play all the great games just on those devices, without adding another system.

The same can be true for consoles, by the way. They don't have quite the volume of titles that PC/iOS do, but they're also more narrowly focused, and if you happen to fit in to that focus it's possible that the hit rate for titles is notably higher for you. Why would you need a PC when you have (for example) a PS4 and 3DS, and there are 3-4 games coming out every month that interest you? How many games do you actually play?

 

[mercenar1e]

i purchased a PS4 to play Naughty Dog and Sucker punch games.. the other exclusives does absolutely nothing for me and at some point ill ditch the PS4. Why isn't Steam selling digital gift cards on Amazon.com yet?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Haven't turned my PS4 on in months. I don't think console gaming has ever been this terrible honestly. It is not like I'm against console gaming, but it is just shit compared to PC these days. I'm not even talking about multiplat titles, I skip those on PC since I figure they are going to be awful.

 

[Spiritreaver]

That's what I thought until Bloodborne was announced. Now I have a PS4 with one game.

I would be posting the same thing right now but you know what stopped me from getting a PS4?

Seeing the PS3 under my TV collecting dust. I haven't touched the thing since, funny enough, Dark Souls II released. I ended up playing it for like 3 days, got bored, and moved on. Before that I hadn't touched it since Injustice.

The only other PS4 exclusive game coming that interests me is FFXV, and that's a stretch because I still don't have faith in the game being great given SE's track record lately. I also *REALLY* want MKX and I'm worried the PC version will be shit. So I may give in when that drops. I'd rather save the $400-500 for something else though, maybe even a video card upgrade.

That being said I've splurged lately on WiiU/3DS games. Since Christmas I've gotten 3D World, Captain Toad, MK8, SSB 3DS and Wii U, Monster Hunter 4, Pokemon Sapphire, and now I'm eyeing S.T.E.A.M..

That's what I call a library of exclusives. Not one or two games. Maybe I should get a Vita too, but damn if I have time for another system anyway. There's still a buttload of multiplatform games I want to play on PC.

 

[His Majesty]

There are simply no games on either console for me to justify a purchase. Maybe Bloodborne, but I am kind of burned out on Souls games.

Next to that, most of my favourite games of the last years have been PC exclusives so I am in no rush to buy a console.

 

[Z3M0G]

Depending what happens with VR, "next gen" may be a whole different animal.

If VR doesn't change the world, it'll be more of the same.

 

[tinfoilhatman]

I'm skipping this gen(gen of disapointment), way more excited for Steam machines

 

[mrklaw]

I think a reasonable person could argue that consoles are less relevant for PC gamers than they have ever been.

In the past, there was a wide swathe of games which were exclusive to a console or to consoles generally. Since then, two things have happened: first, consoles have fewer games released for them they used to in the Wii/PS2/PS1 era. Further, the games that do release are far more likely to be on PC, too.

Additionally, game pads work with virtually every game that could feasibly use them on PC. Again, it doesn't mean you can't play on console; I'm just showing that by any objective measure, consoles have gradually become less compelling to own for anyone who already has access to an alternative solution like a PC. If they're your only gaming solution, then all of these points are moot.

I think there is perhaps also an argument that a gaming PC is less relevant for console gamers than it has ever been.

The x86 architecture means Xbox one or PS4 owners are basically getting the PC version (at a detail level that may be lower than a gaming PC, depending on the PC you have). Also the PC based architecture combined with more flexible self-publishing approaches means that more indie games are coming to console than ever before.

I guess both arguments end up saying that consoles are pretty much SFF PCs that sit under your TV, so owning two has a lot of overlap - no matter what your initial hardware choice is.

 

[Opiate]

I think there is perhaps also an argument that a gaming PC is less relevant for console gamers than it has ever been.

The x86 architecture means Xbox one or PS4 owners are basically getting the PC version (at a detail level that may be lower than a gaming PC, depending on the PC you have). Also the PC based architecture combined with more flexible self-publishing approaches means that more indie games are coming to console than ever before.

I guess both arguments end up saying that consoles are pretty much SFF PCs that sit under your TV, so owning two has a lot of overlap - no matter what your initial hardware choice is.

This is definitely true, and it depends on your preferences. There are far more PC games that never come to console than there are console games that never come to PC. However, a hugely disproportionate number of those PC exclusives are indie titles or browser games or casual software that lots of GAF wouldn't care about, while a hugely disproportionate number of the console exclusives are graphical showpieces intended to sell the systems. If you're big in to AAA gaming, those tentpole releases like Halo or The Order may worth 100 tiny indie games to you.

 

[qa_engineer]

I just jumped back into PC gaming after a 5 year hiatus with an x99 5930K build but still feel there is a place for consoles. It's all about exclusives and experiences you can only have on consoles; namely games in which a majority of my friends, who are predominantly console gamers, are playing. Sure the PC gaming community is alive and well, but I don't have many friends that are invested in PC gaming like I am. Maybe 2 or 3 friends at most.

 

[Polioliolio]

I'm with OP.

After building a PC a few years back, and being able to play games even the consoles are getting, as well as having access to the largest library of indie games and more, console gaming feels like a sham, with those prices and online subscriptions, and expensive controllers.

I want Bloodborne, but I haven't yet been able to compromise with the idea of spending more than 400 dollars to do it.. Sure, there would be other games I'd probably want to buy and play, but then the cost is going up even more.. We're talking about spending probably over 600 - 700 dollars in the span of 6 months or so, just to get a ps4, Bloodborne, another controller, the mandatory online subscription, and a couple other games I'd probably justify buying.


OUCH

Meanwhile, I still have a PC and access to tons of games, and I already bought a Wiiu, so I can occasionally buy games on that if I needed some rare Nintendo magic.

I'm considering selling my 3DS to make a ps4 and Bloodborne viable, as I barely play it as is, but then I still have to contend with the online subscription, and the thought of owning yet another expensive piece of hardware with little use.

The ghost of my grandfather would be smacking his forehead at the thought of blowing so much money.

 

[Majukun]

hope it would be the same for me.. I currently have a 3ds and a wii u, and I'm now waiting for the parts for my first gaming pc... hope this combo will be enough for the rest of the gen.. thankfully at the moment there are not really games on xbone or ps4 I can't live without... even the recent bloodborn doesn't hype me even if I loved dark souls... probably 80 hours of that gameplay was enough

 

[Nzyme32]

i purchased a PS4 to play Naughty Dog and Sucker punch games.. the other exclusives does absolutely nothing for me and at some point ill ditch the PS4. Why isn't Steam selling digital gift cards on Amazon.com yet?

Well there are these - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=steam+wallet Not sure why Amazon sell them at an inflated price, while you can buy them at countless places for the same price as they should be. Maybe Amazon snub? Amazon do prefer you to buy Steam games directly through them.

 

[TheSlySoul]

i purchased a PS4 to play Naughty Dog and Sucker punch games.. the other exclusives does absolutely nothing for me and at some point ill ditch the PS4. Why isn't Steam selling digital gift cards on Amazon.com yet?

I mostly want digital Nintendo cards on Amazon. We got it for PSN.

 

[AntiFacebook]

Another truth is that the PCs and iOS have so many games now that a game has to really stand out as particularly up your alley to justify the purchase of another system.

That is, even if I were to agree that something like Bayonetta 2 looked interesting (it's not for me, but this is just an example), it has to be so interesting that it supercedes anything I could possibly play on PC. There are literally hundreds of PC games released every month, with an almost infinite back catalog that includes many games-as-service which are still being regularly updated and played, such as CS, League of Legends, and Hearthstone.

So the fact that there are some good games I won't play on, say, the Xbox One, isn't all that meaningful when there are already good games I don't play on PC. I have limited time, and there are so many good games on my PC and mobile devices that I can't even realistically play all the great games just on those devices, without adding another system.

I completely agree with that.
I own a Wiiu with a few games I care about, but I never manage to have the time to play it, with all the PC games that were released in the last couple of years.
One system is more than enough, even if others have some interesting exclusives.

 

[SystemUser]

If you have even a semi current PC then it is hard to argue the need for a $400 console.

 

[Zia]

I'd love to go PC and mobile only but the exclusives on the Nintendo platforms along with the PS4's exclusive game are too big a draw. The irony is that I have very little time to play games for fun anymore, and I have my "ecosystem" in Steam and a library that I know will be available to me in five or six years (I don't have the room for old consoles) and so it's hard to really get into playing games on the Wii U or PS4. I finished Bayonetta 2 and haven't played nearly as much Tag Climax as I'd like, and I'm afraid Bloodborne will be interrupted by more social gaming on the PC and elsewhere.

People talk about the "difficulty" of playing on a PC whereas for me it's too easy to look at a massive, infinitely backwards compatible library of games where all of my friends and acquaintances are (even if they're scattered elsewhere as well) and want to devote time to these other platforms that ultimately feel (because they are) disposable. Just way, way too many games and not nearly enough time.

 

[Poop!]

I got a PC inbetween last gen and this gen and now that it has started 99% of console games perform better and are cheaper on the PC. Sad thing, I don't think I've missed out on by not owning a PS4 or XB1. The only Japanese developed games I like are Nintendo first party so I feel the PC + WiiU combo is going to be the best for me this gen.

 

[VivaciousSoul]

I kind of feel the same way but I think "ever" is too big of a word. I can't see that far into the future. Regardless I had been maintaining a document, one for each of the three consoles of games that were good, exclusive, and that I wanted to play. I bought a Wii U when the list got to 10 games. It took a while to get there but it eventually made it. But the PS4 and XB1 are taking forever both still at two games each (Last of Us Remastered and Bloodborne) and (Master Chief Collection and Sunset Overdrive). In a comparable amount of time (about a year and four months) The Wii U was at six I do believe (Super Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, NSMBU, Tropical Freeze, W101). I echo the sentiment that on the horizon there is definitely stuff here and there that I will want to play but I don't know if there will be enough to pull me away from Steam and Wii U.

 

[Azzurri]

This is the first generation in a long time (since SNES) where I didn't pick up a console the first year of launch.

I don't know if I will pick up a console this gen, maybe for KH3 or if I really want to play a baseball game.

 

[laser]

we're talking like

out of ten on the easy scale

like a 1 for a console and a 2 for a pc

like building furniture from ikea is like a 3.2 and hanging picture frames is a 2.5

More like like a 1 for a console and a 2 for a pc if the person has built a pc before. Otherwise it is 5.
Also for consoles, if a part is bad, the difficulty becomes a 2 as you just send it back to the manufacturer. For PC, troubleshooting a bad part for a lay person makes it an 8 or 9.

 

[xxracerxx]

This would be true before things like the Alienware Alpha exists. Now the process is about as long as setting up your username and password for PS4.
.

You moved goal posts there with the Alienware unit when the discussion was about building a PC and how simple it was. Besides how much is one of the Alphas?

 

[kunonabi]

This may be my last console generation but even if it is it just go full on retro since I don't play pc games or mobile. Wii u might even be my last console come to think of it. Kojima being let go has killed my interest in p.t which in in turn has killed my interest in a ps4. The nx might not even be a foregone conclusion depending on how much of Nintendo's output gets moved to mobile by the time it shows up.

 

[BlackRock]

I'm a life long PC gamer - have been since I was a kid with my first computer in the mid 80's. I am absolutely thrilled that platform exclusivity is dying off too. There are so many console games that I've missed playing, and there are so many great PC titles that console gamers have missed out on too. I've played plenty of console games with friends, of course, but I have never been able to dig deeply into any of those games. I still sometimes toy with picking up a 360 to play Red Dead Redemption for instance, since I've only seen little bits and pieces of it. Uncharted and The Last of Us on the Sony systems - same thing. And zillions of more classic titles. Ultimately, I have a backlog just on PC that I'll never get through in one lifetime. Still, there are certain gems from the console world I can tell I'm missing out on.

I'm so happy that exclusivity is at an all time low. I think the noteable uptick in multiplatform releases is one of the most gamer friendly and empowering developments of the past 5 years. I love it.

Anyway, welcome to PC gaming. Hope you continue to have a blast.

 

[Seanspeed]

More like like a 1 for a console and a 2 for a pc if the person has built a pc before. Otherwise it is 5.

If you can build a desk from IKEA or something, you can build a computer. Its not completely brainless, but its easy enough that anybody should be able to do it just fine. You don't need any particular skills or anything.

 

[Polioliolio]

If you can build a desk from IKEA or something, you can build a computer. Its not completely brainless, but its easy enough that anybody should be able to do it just fine. You don't need any particular skills or anything.

I agree that it's easier than one would imagine, but even after having a friend put my computer back together after traveling with it, and helping me assemble my ex's computer, I would still struggle knowing where to plug certain things into the motherboard.

It's not quite as simple as it yet needs to be, and god forbid you run into any issues, like certain parts not being recognized after the whole thing has been assembled.. computer issues can be extremely troubling.

I've been using computers since I was 12, but I wouldn't know where to begin with the slight crackling in my speakers when listening to music. I even replaced the speakers thinking it was them, but now I'm sure it's my graphics card... but hell if I know how to fix it.. even tried researching it, and apparently it's a problem, but without a clear solution. The crackling isn't bad, but I'm definitely not tearing apart my computer trying to solve a mysterious issue like that.

 

[Dicer]

I Feel So Unsure
As I take your controller
And lead you to the living room
As the game boots
Something in your eyes
Calls to mind a loading screen
And all it's sad load times...

I'm never gonna play again
Guilty hands have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know you're not a fool
I should have known better than to use a cheat
And waste a chance that I've been given
So I'm never gonna play again
The way I played with you

(Epic sax ensues...)

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I don't know that I'll buy another console either, though it's not because I have a capable PC (and I think that I do, but who knows). New hardware just doesn't motivate me. If anything, it reduces motivation to continue with the hobby.