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I Fought with My Brother causing Him To Storm Out In Rage

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Jhoan

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I don't normally make a thread about my personal life but this one's really a personal one. I might have mentioned before that I have 2 older brothers who I've said are very dear to me. They're both aware of the fact I post on GAF as they lurk here. One of them, the older one who has a kid and lives with his gf, fought with her the other day causing him to flee back home. Well tonight, that all changed when I lashed out at him for nitpicking a small thing which was the last straw for him. All because he was complaining about the fact that we had too many web browser tabs open. Typically what happens is my brother fights with his girlfriend every now and then, he comes back home-his bed dusty and full of books- and scrutinizes us for things we should do/don't have because he's accustomed to living with his middle class girlfriend who buys nicer stuff because she can afford it.

It went global with him threatening to leave the apartment and me telling him he wasn't welcome here. I let him have it and he cursed me out, called me out on my flaws (I'd never seen a single vagina), my social status (he works at Wall Street), telling me I was frustrated, vowing never again to come back, tears in his eyes; the first time I'd seen it in over a decade. He grabbed his stuff, stormed out the apartment with my mother begging him not to go at his heels and announced that he would head to my father's house. My eldest brother watched the events unfold.

So after several minutes of processing what had happened-my mother wailing in her bedroom over why I did it-I realized something. It dawned on me that I made a huge mistake and I need to apologize as soon as we both cool down. I caused a terrible rift between our relationship. I've calmed down but I know he hasn't so I'll give it some time until he does.

At this moment, my mother has stopped wailing. I know GAF, I know: Jipan done goof real badly. And now I'm going to fix it. I'm not a person who has a high sense of pride like he does (my father also shares this BS machismo complex which is why I haven't seen him in over 2 years). I own up to my mistakes when the time comes; I face my problems head on. And I'll be honest with you all OT GAF when I say that I miss my tech geek of a brother.

We haven't hung out in ages because he's busy with work, busy with his own family, making his mark in the professional world. I'm in college trying to make something of myself as an aspiring concept artist.

We promised we would stick together for our mother's sake. Pictures of the trio throughout different ages showed that; the one of us as babies cemented the fact that we're brothers for life, best friends for life. I love my brothers to death even though we all have different goals and aspirations.

So GAF, I'm not really asking for advice, I'm asking you to support me as I intend to call him eventually and apologize. I'm intending to try to meet up with him at a bar and talk like two grown men; the days of playing split screen co-op games together long gone. Thank you for taking the time to read this well crafted post that I wrote from my phone. I hate writing sappy posts in all honesty.
 
Hey I support you. It takes a lot to forgive someone even when they said hurtful things about you.

Someone once said "when you forgive, you bear the burden somebody has given you without holding them accountable".

May you find the strength to swallow that hurt so that you can mend the relationship. It sucks for a short time but the bigger love is worth it.
 
It really seems like things escalated for no good reason.

Anyway, good luck on talking to your brother. It sounds like the both of you just got really hot-headed and in the moment said a bunch of stuff you didn't even mean. And you both realize that--or I hope you do. It's great that you think of being a family is more important than maintaining your pride over an argument. You being the bigger man and apologizing to start the making-up process will be good (especially if your brother might be too prideful to start it himself and is just kind of waiting for you). It sounds like you have a good plan.
 
Bro seems upset, but also seems like he is taking it out on you. Maybe he needs to deal with more than whatever the small things you say you fought about .
 
Good on you to apologise

Curious though what did you mean by "All because he was complaining about the fact that we had to many tabs open."?

Like tabs on your browser?
 
If he kicks off over the smallest of things then berates you like that you have nothing to apologise for, sounds like he needs a reality check a kick up the backside to me.
 
I have a sister that I don't get along with. Every time I'm around her, she's always a bitch to me and telling me how useless and worthless I am. (not that she's wrong, but that's not the point.) The only reason I tolerate her is because of my parents. My mom keeps telling me that I need to get along with her, even though she's the one that always starts shit. It really wouldn't bother me if I never had to see her again. As soon as our parents die, I don't want anything more to do with her.
 
He sounds like a dick, you were right in telling him to go fuck himself. He owes you an apology.

That being said, you can still be the bigger man and make the first move towards reconciliation. Under no circumstances should you be his doormat though.

Edit: And if dude works on Wall Street, why the fuck does he move home every time he has a fight with his gf? He can't afford an apartment in Manhattan on his salary?
 
Sounds like your brother is used to getting his way and he threw a tantrum when you didnt allow him to look down on you. I would say dont make an apology, it will just reinforce his bad habits. If you want to make an apology, give it a couple of months, no need mend fences right away since it validates that his throwing a tantrum gets results.
 
you're not going to fix anything with your brother acting like a bitch and readily having a list of your "flaws" to use against you in any argument.
 
im sorry but i laughed at the tabs thing. im sure once you and your brother calm down you'll both laugh about it too.

and go apologize to your mom and tell her not to worry
 
He sounds like a dick, you were right in telling him to go fuck himself. He owes you an apology.

That being said, you can still be the bigger man and make the first move towards reconciliation. Under no circumstances should you be his doormat though.

Edit: And if dude works on Wall Street, why the fuck does he move home every time he has a fight with his gf? He can't afford an apartment in Manhattan on his salary?
My brother is a huge dick in some aspects but you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. He has his flaws and I have mine. If I were to ever make him cry it would mean I had gone too far, I would need to apologize and admit I goofed.

Good on you Jipon!
 
Good on you to apologise

Curious though what did you mean by "All because he was complaining about the fact that we had to many tabs open."?

Like tabs on your browser?
Sorry, I should've clarified that. Tabs on my browser is indeed what I meant to say.
Your brother sounds like an asshole.
He kind of is to some degree. He's a hot head, he's incredibly outspoken, and he likes to put on this BS macho man bravado that my father has. If my oldest brother is cool, calm, and collected and he's the polar opposite, I'm somewhere in the middle teetering between both sides.

He sounds like a dick, you were right in telling him to go fuck himself. He owes you an apology.

That being said, you can still be the bigger man and make the first move towards reconciliation. Under no circumstances should you be his doormat though.

Edit: And if dude works on Wall Street, why the fuck does he move home every time he has a fight with his gf? He can't afford an apartment in Manhattan on his salary?
To my defense, I felt like he was bullying my oldest brother so I decided to stand up to him. He looks down on him for working at Starbucks. On top of that, he was being disrespectful and acting holier-than-thou which I can't stand in people that act that way.

Yeah, he makes something like 35 grand a year. He lives with his girlfriend because they have a 2 year old daughter together.
Sounds like your brother is used to getting his way and he threw a tantrum when you didnt allow him to look down on you. I would say dont make an apology, it will just reinforce his bad habits. If you want to make an apology, give it a couple of months, no need mend fences right away since it validates that his throwing a tantrum gets results.
Well that's one other option. But personally, every time I fight with my brothers, I usually apologize the next day, forgive, and forget. I was provoking him into hitting me but he knew full well that he wouldn't dare lay a finger on me.
you're not going to fix anything with your brother acting like a bitch and readily having a list of your "flaws" to use against you in any argument.
Well, that's the thing. Every time I fight with either of my brothers, they use the old "well at least I'm not a frustrated virgin" to end the argument. Only this time around I didn't let it bother me; losing one's virginity is overrated. It'll happen when it happens.
 
It sounds like your brother is going through a rough time and decided to take it out on you. Good for you for being the one to apologize though. Siblings fight all the time, I'm sure you'll both have a laugh about this one day. Hope everything works out for you.
 
All of this over having too many tabs open on the computer? Christ.

I know, it was really stupid in retrospect. All the little annoying things about him boiled up to that breaking point. My brother gets annoyed by little things and gets super nitpicky over them.
 
you lashed out at him because of something small like him complaining about too many tabs? especially in a time when he was already depressed and in a bad mental state from his family troubles? you made him leave in tears and made your mother cry, all over...that?

you done fucked up OP.
 
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OP made me sad.
 
So he is the middle brother? I am the oldest of 3 brothers and our middle brother was always the most argumentative and getting into the most trouble/drama. My middle brother once sat on a new book I just purchased and bent it rather badly, dont know why he did this, probably just to get a reaction. I lost his psp he lent me a few years later, not on purpose though.
 
So he is the middle brother? I am the oldest of 3 brothers and our middle brother was always the most argumentative and getting into the most trouble/drama. My middle brother once sat on a new book I just purchased and bent it rather badly, dont know why he did this, probably just to get a reaction. I lost his psp he lent me a few years later, not on purpose though.

He is. I'm the "baby" of the family; the virgin with very little experience with women (got my first kiss a couple of months ago). Extremely liberal, in love with fictional books, drawing stuff/painting; the works. He's the one that's most like my father being closer to him/his family than either my oldest and myself. I should have realized that he was in an emotional unstable state. Both of my brothers play instruments; I don't. I should mention that my brothers are 28, 27, and I'm 25 respectively.

The reason he fled his girlfriend's house this time was because he slapped her and she threatened to call the cops on him. I never get into any of his relationship problems that he has with his girlfriend/college sweetheart of almost 6 years since in a typical cycle, they end up getting back together for a couple of months before the cycle begins anew. His girlfriend makes something like 70K a year as an accountant.

I seriously hope he doesn't do anything stupid for my mother's sake but I can definitely say that he's at my father's house safe and sound because my oldest brother told me he posted a comment on Facebook.
 
OP don't take shit from him, I'd say let things cool down for a bit.

But props on you for wanting to be the bigger man/responsible adult.

Kudos to you OP, kudos.
 
Props for wanting to be the bigger person, but it sounds like your brother was being a huge dick.

He should be the one trying to apologize, not you.

But hey, you know your family better than any of us.
 
Sounds to me like the first course of action is to get yourself laid. Taking photo (or video) evidence of course. I'm sure the person on the receiving end won't mind, once you explain the situation to them. Gives your brothers one less avenue of attack.

Then chat with your brother. Make sure to let him know that his behaviour was unacceptable, but that you don't want your relationship to turn sour because of this argument and that's why you're building bridges.
 
surely on one of those web tabs you have open?
I've seen plenty of nude women either drawing them live, in movies/videos, or on the web whenever I get strong sexual urges. The stuff in parenthesis was more or less a paraphrase of his words.
OP don't take shit from him, I'd say let things cool down for a bit.

But props on you for wanting to be the bigger man/responsible adult.

Kudos to you OP, kudos.
My older brother has always been a bit of a bully. Something about his masculinity and wanting to be an alpha male. He's one of those dudes that has to get his way/the final word in.
 
He is. I'm the "baby" of the family; the virgin with very little experience with women (got my first kiss a couple of months ago). Extremely liberal, in love with fictional books, drawing stuff/painting; the works. He's the one that's most like my father being closer to him/his family than either my oldest and myself. I should have realized that he was in an emotional unstable state. Both of my brothers play instruments; I don't. I should mention that my brothers are 28, 27, and I'm 25 respectively.

The reason he fled his girlfriend's house this time was because he slapped her and she threatened to call the cops on him. I never get into any of his relationship problems that he has with his girlfriend/college sweetheart of almost 6 years since in a typical cycle, they end up getting back together for a couple of months before the cycle begins anew. His girlfriend makes something like 70K a year as an accountant.

I seriously hope he doesn't do anything stupid for my mother's sake but I can definitely say that he's at my father's house safe and sound because my oldest brother told me he posted a comment on Facebook.

Your brother just beat his wife and fled, and so now he's angry. You didn't do anything but get caught in the crossfire of his own disintegrating life. He's not upset about browser tabs, he's upset he's the agent of the destruction of his own family. Give him space, he's got serious problems that have zero to do with you, and don't think you can do anything to help him, because his problems and anger right now are 100% to do with his wife and kids.
 
He is. I'm the "baby" of the family; the virgin with very little experience with women (got my first kiss a couple of months ago). Extremely liberal, in love with fictional books, drawing stuff/painting; the works. He's the one that's most like my father being closer to him/his family than either my oldest and myself. I should have realized that he was in an emotional unstable state. Both of my brothers play instruments; I don't. I should mention that my brothers are 28, 27, and I'm 25 respectively.

The reason he fled his girlfriend's house this time was because he slapped her and she threatened to call the cops on him.
I never get into any of his relationship problems that he has with his girlfriend/college sweetheart of almost 6 years since in a typical cycle, they end up getting back together for a couple of months before the cycle begins anew. His girlfriend makes something like 70K a year as an accountant.

I seriously hope he doesn't do anything stupid for my mother's sake but I can definitely say that he's at my father's house safe and sound because my oldest brother told me he posted a comment on Facebook.
I was wrong, he is a huge dick and deserved anything you said.
 
I seem to recall him telling me that now I'm a big deal because I'm suddenly acting as the man of the house and vowing to get his own place/move up the social ladder and that I would be living in complete misery.

When I lashed out at him, I told him that he came into the house thinking he's big stuff because he works at Wall St and acts holier-than-thou. He would keep telling me to shut up because he didn't want to hear it before he lost it. People don't like hearing the truth.

I believe his girlfriend and daughter are fine. My mother is obviously taking his side. I didn't' quite hear the details as to what led him to slapping his girlfriend.
 
Tame compare to the wars my brother and I had, when I was 10 we were in a fight and I took a shovel and cut off his smallest toe, doctors were able to reattach it, I was punish by my parents for an entire year..

It got worst when my parents divorce.

The Damage..
He stab me in the stomach.
I broke bunch of his fingers
He gave me a black eye
I stabbed him in the forearm
many, many, many, fight resulted in so much damage to the house, we will never be on the same page, it' the same with my sister she's a fucking whore that left me to die one summer, the one good sibling i had died when i was 25, the rest of them are cunts and i don't talk to them, so OP you don't have it bad, and you haven't been to war with your siblings like I have, so before it's too late you should apologize quickly...
 
So your brother cracked the shits and slapped his gf, moved back home and proceeded to tell everyone they basically werent up to his standard of living and took his frustration out on you guys and left. Now you're going to apologise? Tell him he can sort his shit out and then maybe if he wants to act like an adult you will consider accepting his apology.
 
your brother sounds like a bit of an ass. and he felt the need to pick you apart to feel better about himself I guess. IMO he needs to apologize for taking his frustration out on you and using personal flaws against you. But at the end of the day you are family so i;m sure you will make up but its clear your bro needs to learn respect. if I had a bro I think I would slap him if he ever disrespected me like that especially in front of your mother.
 
I have to agree with many other posters here, your brother is the one who should apologize i mean I have had to deal with people who look down on others even close family, and HE should be the one to apologize not you.

He sounds really arrogant and should stop being a self centered prick because that's what he sounds like.
 
I don't feel like you're the one that should be apologizing. Dude needs to come down to earth and stop taking his shit out on other people.

That said, do whatever makes you feel better.
 
Not having seen a vagina is not a character flaw, your brother sucks for bringing that up. Not everyone is the same.
 
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