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[Apollo]

I decided to download the 2.10 update today since no has had any major problems with it. Well I go to download the update and noticed that my speeds were moving snail pace(which I never experience before), so I canceled the update and went back to the XMB. I noticed that Blazing Angles 2 Demo was still in my Download Management... so I paused the download. I went back to download my update and the speeds were moving along fasts. I canceled the update and went back to resume the Blazing Angles 2 download which was at 80% then started the update up again. I waited until the update was at 10% and canceled it and went back to the Blazing Angles download and to my surprise the file was at 88%. You have to pause any download you have going on before updating, because the files are still being downloaded in the background while downloading the updates.

 

[Like the hat?]

that's actually good to know. I was downloading the sweeny todd trailer for the wife, and it was at about 80% when I started downloading the update. The update took forever to get to like 10% and then it just shot up fo 100% pretty quickly. the trailer must have finished downloading by the time the update hit 10%. i didn't even think about it at the time

 

[Dizzle24]

What about the people who aren't downloading the Blazing Angels demo?

Spoiler

Or aren't downloading anything at all?

 

[TTP]

Cool to know downloading the update doesn't stop background downloading but no, I dont think that's reason. I'm pretty sure many will post here telling you their download speed was ass while still not having anything in the download management.

 

[Apollo]

Cool to know downloading the update doesn't stop background downloading but no, I dont think that's reason. I'm pretty sure many will post here telling you their download speed was ass while still not having anything in the download management.

I didn't even know I had anything in the download management myself. I'm sure you'll probably get ppl that will say that, but what I posted could be one of the main reasons for the slow downloads.

 

[Z_Y]

Cool to know downloading the update doesn't stop background downloading but no, I dont think that's reason. I'm pretty sure many will post here telling you their download speed was ass while still not having anything in the download management.

Yep. D/L speeds on PSN are absymal on PSN. Updating is such a pain in the ass.

 

[bryehn]

I decided to download the 2.10 update today since no has had any major problems with it. Well I go to download the update and noticed that my speeds were moving snail pace(which I never experience before), so I canceled the update and went back to the XMB. I noticed that Blazing Angles 2 Demo was still in my Download Management... so I paused the download. I went back to download my update and the speeds were moving along fasts. I canceled the update and went back to resume the Blazing Angles 2 download which was at 80% then started the update up again. I waited until the update was at 10% and canceled it and went back to the Blazing Angles download and to my surprise the file was at 88%. You have to pause any download you have going on before updating, because the files are still being downloaded in the background while downloading the updates.

Nice theory, but no. Just no. I'm not an idiot, I can tell what my PS3 is downloading at any given time.

 

[tanod]

Cool to know downloading the update doesn't stop background downloading but no, I dont think that's reason. I'm pretty sure many will post here telling you their download speed was ass while still not having anything in the download management.

I think that the main reason stuff might download on the PS3 so slow has to be something to do with incessant packet error checking.

This is probably more so with the updates since they don't want you to download a firmware update to have it become corrupted in the process.

Personally, I just set mine to download the update and do something else. When I remember that I should check it, it's usually done.

 

[Choke on the Magic]

I've only had one fw update that didn't dl well. I don't remember which, but it was the one where almost everyone had the same problem; dl to 4% then freeze. Anyone remember which that was?

 

[Apollo]

Nice theory, but no. Just no. I'm not an idiot, I can tell what my PS3 is downloading at any given time.

Theory? How is it a theory that you can have two files downloading at once? Which slows down your speeds for each file. I did say "I found the reason why PSN updates take forever for some ppl" which doesn't mean everyone.

 

[Woo-Fu]

The easy fix for slow download speeds on my ps3 was this: Plug in an Ethernet cable.

The wireless on ps3 is borked---or at least mine is.

 

[The Faceless Master]

i've never had issues with the firmware update downloads being slow... everything else, however...

 

[sprocket]

Its slow because sony releases everything the same day so everyone and their mama is hitting the servers at the same time.

 

[YYZ]

Mine is always fast, I live in Canada and I use a wired connection. Maybe Canadians have different servers? Your explanation will work for some people but the vast majority of people with problems know that they are not downloading something else at the same time.

 

[mrkgoo]

It took 4 hours, and I was 3% off finishing, and the server timed out, so I had to do it all again. Was fine the second time though.

 

[madmook]

Using a wired connection is faster for me than using the built-in wifi... I think this is well-known amonst PS3 owners. The update file being over 100 megs also sucks.

 

[TYRiAX]

Firmware updates over PSN are always s l o w for me, even though I get a 1MBps from the playstation store.

I've taken to downloading the firmware on the PC and using a memory card to load it on the ps3. So now it takes 5 minutes instead of 2 hours.

 

[watership]

What's the file size of the PS3 updates? Are they large files?

 

[Ptaaty]

What's the file size of the PS3 updates? Are they large files?

Yes obscenely large....120Mb for even the most minor update...every time it gets a whole new file.

I never thought patches were so great until now.

Basically I go to my PC, download the update, put it on a USB, install on the PS3.

Honestly the entire update process, while better than the absurb plugging in and out of the controller earlier...is way too time consuming and difficult.

It is like Sony is trying to keep me from going online...I swear every time I want to go online I have to go through this process.

Even the biggest 360 update takes a fraction of the time start to finish than just the install of the most minor PS3 update.

 

[arne]

Firmware updates were super slow for some people (including myself) back before background downloading was even introduced.

 

[tha_con]

Pretty sure download speeds for the PSN are entirely dependent on both your location and internet connection.

100% positive.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

My updates take forever and I never have downloads going.

The one like 2 weeks ago was pretty quick though.

Pretty sure download speeds for the PSN are entirely dependent on both your location and internet connection.

100% positive.

So how come I updated my 360 and PS3 within days of each other in the same location (PS3 by wire, 360 wireless) and PS3 still took twice as long on its fastest update yet? That Wii update that came alongside the Photo gimping was faster too.

 

[Lightning]

For me wireless takes forever. I use a Ethernet Cable

 

[G-Bus]

Pretty sure download speeds for the PSN are entirely dependent on both your location and internet connection.

100% positive.

Why is it my downloads for let's say demo's or game trailers are EASILY 3 times faster than my download speed for updates. The latest one took me over 2 hours, and no, I didn't have anything in my download management.

900MB demo > 20 minutes

120MB update > 2+ hours

 

[spoon!]

Why is it my downloads for let's say demo's or game trailers are EASILY 3 times faster than my download speed for updates. The latest one took me over 2 hours, and no, I didn't have anything in my download management.

900MB demo > 20 minutes

120MB update > 2+ hours

Because the servers the firmware is hosted on is independent of the servers the demos are hosted on, and everyone happens to rape the firmware server at the same fucking time? Its the intertubes people, its just logic that you cant get that many trucks down one tube at one time without there being a jam.

 

[CLEEK]

PSN downloads are super fast for me. Firmware updates take a couple of minutes at most. I wouldn't be surprised if they're maxing out my 24meg connection. Surely the speeds people experience are simply due to the location and capacity of the server they connect to.

Conversely, downloading anything from Live takes an age, probably for the same server infrastructure reasons. I haven't tried the service yet, but I'm sure a 6GB movie would take me the best part of 24 hours to download.

So how come I updated my 360 and PS3 within days of each other in the same location (PS3 by wire, 360 wireless) and PS3 still took twice as long on its fastest update yet?

Location of the servers, not where you keep your consoles! The location and bandwidth of the servers for PSN and Live updates will different, resulting in different speeds.

 

[duckroll]

It's definitely the Sony update servers. Let's put it this way, I gave up updating on my PS3 ages ago and I just download the update from my computer and throw it on the PSP Duo Pro stick. When I download from the PC, it's not very different. Most of the time I'm getting slowass speeds of 10-50kb/sec, while demos on the PS3 and Xbox360 can go at 500kb/sec. But just the other day when I got the 2.10 update, it was going at almost 600kb/sec, so maybe they fixed their shitty ass update servers? Who knows.

 

[Slavik81]

My downloads have always been pretty quick. Have any Canadians had problems with it being slow? I think we have seperate servers.

 

[Barnolde]

PSN updates much slower than the 360. Same thing with game patches and the PS3 has to be manually reset after a patch is installed.

Aside from the Burnout demo, all the PSN demos/games/videos I've downloaded went extremely fast in comparison to updates.

 

[thetrin]

I dont get why anyone would have issues.

I have never had anything but blazing speeds on PSN even when dling something in the bg.

 

[duckroll]

I dont get why anyone would have issues.

I have never had anything but blazing speeds on PSN even when dling something in the bg.

There really is a difference between PS3 updates and PSN in general. Doesn't seem to affect everyone, but Sony's update servers seem to be significantly less capable of providing high speeds to everyone compared to PSN.

 

[macksplack]

The update-process is a mess,
slow download
slow manual install
reconnect controller by pressing the button on the controller twice.

I hope they somehow fix the speed of the installation, especially if you what to have quick game online but no you have to wait at least 20 minutes.

 

[TTP]

Yes obscenely large....120Mb for even the most minor update...every time it gets a whole new file.

I never thought patches were so great until now.

Basically I go to my PC, download the update, put it on a USB, install on the PS3.

Honestly the entire update process, while better than the absurb plugging in and out of the controller earlier...is way too time consuming and difficult.

It is like Sony is trying to keep me from going online...I swear every time I want to go online I have to go through this process.

Even the biggest 360 update takes a fraction of the time start to finish than just the install of the most minor PS3 update.

You can do the very same via PS3 web browser. It's a different network, so you get the same speed u'd get doing that from PC. Just be sure u have a memory stick or a pendrive plugged in cos IIRC that's were it will ask you to download the file.

 

[TTP]

The update-process is a mess,
slow download
slow manual install
reconnect controller by pressing the button on the controller twice.

I hope they somehow fix the speed of the installation, especially if you what to have quick game online but no you have to wait at least 20 minutes.

? I'm never asked to do so since 1.80 I guess.

 

[ThePeter]

The Firmware downloads go at about 1-mbps and sometimes i get a slow download off of the store when everyone else starts downloading at the exact same time.

it's probably geographically related for people though, i'm in Los Angeles.

 

[tha_con]

So how come I updated my 360 and PS3 within days of each other in the same location (PS3 by wire, 360 wireless) and PS3 still took twice as long on its fastest update yet? That Wii update that came alongside the Photo gimping was faster too.

Proof that most people on GAF have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to download services.

 

[LoveAndBeer]

Something is definitely odd about the PSN speeds. Many people post how fast it is, but my friends and I get terrible speeds through 10mb cable.

Last Thurs when the Burnout Revenge demo came out I downloaded the demo from both Live and PSN. I didn't do anything except start the download from the respective service and note the times. I did Live first, the PSN.

My results (both from Thurs 12/13) were as follows:
Live: 13min (835mb demo)
PSN: 6 hours and 19min (765mb demo)

I have no idea why. Both systems are wired connections through the same internet provider and neither had any other downloads going.

This is my experience only, but it is consistently what I see from both services. I don't know why there is such a huge gulf, but for me (and my neighbor who also has both consoles) it is what we experience every time we download from the respective services.

Maybe whatever service provider Sony's servers sit on throttles their connection to InsightBB or something.

/shrug

 

[polyh3dron]

The Warhawk 1.2 update took a PAINFULLY long time to download.

 

[thetrin]

There really is a difference between PS3 updates and PSN in general. Doesn't seem to affect everyone, but Sony's update servers seem to be significantly less capable of providing high speeds to everyone compared to PSN.

My update speeds are fine. Then again, I usually set it to upgrade, switch channels, and play 360 or Wii.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Yes obscenely large....120Mb for even the most minor update...every time it gets a whole new file.

Holy shit! So this isn't just firmware getting updated.

I said WOW.