Get over yourself, bro. That's not what Miiverse is about at all. What a terrible post. Do better.
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I Give Up....I don't get MiiVerse
- Thread starter BlackBanditSho
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Get over yourself, bro. That's not what Miiverse is about at all. What a terrible post. Do better.
Well, Miiverse was never meant to be a forum anyway. Yet I think miiverse is more suited to discuss old games than here on gaf where lttp threads barely survive more than 3 pages or OT for certain games are deserted after a few months.
Maybe you want to warn players of a certain part of the level or hints as how to complete the task. Maybe you want to brag or vent your frustration. Maybe YOU need help and can ask. Or brag. Yeah.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Just the Mario games. It is kind of annoying to be honest. You can turn it off but not without disabling all miiverse features.
H_Prestige
Banned
I don't see the big deal either. It just seemed like a hodge podge of random posts and drawings.
If I want a game community, I'll just go to the OT on GAF and have some real conversations.
If I want a game community, I'll just go to the OT on GAF and have some real conversations.
When in 3DS miiverse click this icon
to get your activity feed. Should show you all the posts of everyone you've followed.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Palette Swap
Member
Thanks for the help. Will check that.When in 3DS miiverse click this icon
to get your activity feed. Should show you all the posts of everyone you've followed.
StreetsAhead
Member
Um, "NeoGAF" had a long thread debating whether footage of a real human was CG or not.
Let's not pretend this place is some bastion of intelligent discussion on the internet.
Let's not pretend this place is some bastion of intelligent discussion on the internet.
I just wanted to say that asking a question or just talking about a game that you're playing on Miiverse, while seemingly not a big deal, feels infinitely better than browsing through some online faq or forum. I actually found my experience to be reminicent of talking about a game with your buds in the schoolyard growing up....asking for help on Miiverse feels less like cheating and more of a shared organic part of the game.
Aw, a giant image macro. You're exactly who Miiverse wants!
But it's too bad that's exactly what it is. Literally every single time I've ever tried to browse I have to turn it off within minutes because it's basically rainbow vomit everywhere. Some people are fine with that. It cannot be compared to NeoGAF however which actually fosters the ability to have discussions.
And once French fries in the pentagon were called freedom fries, what's your point?
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
SM3DW does this too? I really want to play that whenever I get the system.
Is there any reason not to disable all miiverse features?
There is so much wrong in this post dude. It sounds like you had one look at Miiverse and that's it.
I already said this in an earlier post, but I've seen so many posts that are negative, either towards a game, the Wii U or Nintendo itself. I've seen conspiracy theories about how Nintendo is censoring the Wii U Browser because they had issues watching some youtube videos about the PS4 (which is ridiculous). And only the posts where people were flat out insulting eachother got deleated. There's a much more diverse range of opinion than you give it credit for.
I've had my fair share of healthy discussions with people (particularly in the Zombi U and Super Metroid communities) both on my own posts and on other peoples. Did you ever make a post on Miiverse that was more than just "I like this game" or "I hate this game"? I think you'll find that you can easily have intelligent conversation with people if you post more interesting stuff. Sure there'll be some fanboys posting crap, but thats hardly surprising.
Ofcourse opinions are going to be more positive than negative about Nintendo. It's a Nintendo Social Network that's exclusive to Nintendo systems. The fact that you and some other posters are shocked or even annoyed by this is hilarious.
And I like how you ignore so many benefits of Miiverse and just say it's a circle-jerk for Nintendo fanboys.
It's the best way to find out how good/bad a game is from people who have actually played it. It's great for devs to interact with their audience (The Bit Trip guys did some awesome stuff on Miiverse) and yes, sharing screenshots and Miiverse drawings really is great.
Now I'll grant you that there are fanboys and kids posting crap on Miiverse, but to generalise the entirety of Miiverse as simply being a fanboy circle-jerk is both wrong and ignorant. Besides you'll find the same crap on any forum, yes even Neogaf on occasion.
StreetsAhead
Member
I thought it was clear from my original post, but allow me to spell it out.
NeoGAF sometimes has stupid discussions too. We have circle jerks. We have kids posting. I've had intelligent discussions on Miiverse and I've have intelligent discussions here. It's about the people posting and using the service more than anything.
I don't think the intention is to have deep, meaningful debates, and while it's distressingly easy to believe the opposite with how Nintendo handles things these days, I think the 200 character limit is proof of that.
"Hey, I need some help with this bit!"
"Hey, look at this cool screenshot!"
"I can draw much better than you!"
etc., etc.
Is this in regards to the OP? Because we are on a video game forum discussing video game stuff. Its all on the same level.
No, it doesn't force any kind of Miiverse stuff on you, as far as input goes. You get a post button at the score wrap-up at the end of a level, and that's about it. It's never put in your way.
Very good analogy.
The best thing about Miiverse is that it's being updated very frequently. I'm expecting the 3DS version to be the same too.
I'm not shocked at all. I simply have no desire to participate in dens of fanboys. I would say the same thing if there was a Sony or Microsoft equivalent of Miiverse. I prefer my discussion to not be about rainbows and unicorns. You're right, I obviously don't have as much experience as you do. Because the experience I did have was PRECISELY what I said. Why would I keep going back on Miiverse in the hope that it'll be the rare time it's not finally? The post limit nearly guarantees such limited discussions. Is there some amount of times I must keep revisiting before I correctly conclude such an environment is unhealthy for most discussions?
No, NeoGAF is. And I don't have to be suspect about the people sharing the opinions, because I am intimately familiar with who is a fanboy and who is not, who is so invested in their product that they are unable to have an objective opinion or not.
Again, this is not a 'benefit' of Miiverse for me. I'm glad that is a benefit for you, however.
Doodles and screenshots are the 'prime' benefit, but for me it's not really something that matters. If I want to share my screenshots, I would actually just take a shot on Wii U and post it here. That said, I said that if you're into those things, that's the benefit of Miiverse. So I did not actually ignore those benefits: you just ignored that I acknowledged them./
Sammy Samusu
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Air Zombie Meat
Member
Kind of but it's much less obnoxious there. It's on the results screen at the end of a level along with a bunch of posts scrolling at the top. You'd only miss out on that, player ghosts and mii's on the map if you turn it off.
SweetDonuts
Member
I never used to use it on the Wii U until Zelda WW. Turned out to be pretty great; replying to people who needed help, posting screencaps etc. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it in the future.
SUBZERO-08
Member
Same here. The pictures people draw are cool, but nothing compels me to load it up and do anything.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Have you ever been on amirox? cause ive seen all kinds of comments besides a "circlejerk" the fact that say this lowers what I think of this opinion off the bat.
Same here. I help people who are stuck all the time and sometimes join in on conversations people have about various games. It's just a fun place to socialize with players much like NeoGAF.
I understand your opinion. I just think it's far easier to get an answer to a question I have about a game on Miiverse than on this forum. On top of that, sometimes a simple question can lead to a lot of console wars BS which I have no desire to engage in. Sure there's a "discussion", but I just want to know how to do something in the game and would like to get that information and move on with my life. I find that Miiverse makes this easier.
As for having a "real" discussion, I've had plenty of them on Miiverse. I've read quite a few conversations about things not related to Nintendo and Nintendo doesn't censor criticism. Lots of doom and gloom to go around everywhere these days, even on Miiverse. If people just want to draw penis's, swear like a sailor and the like then yeah, that place isn't for them.
To me, it's a better version of Sony's forums that I used to go to all the time back in the day.
Yes, I've browsed a few times since I've owned a Wii U (which I owned since its launch). Every single time, like clock work, the same thing. I tried to browse it on 3DS but it's insufferably slow so obviously I can't stomach that even if it was different.
The 200 post limit alone guarantees the death of most discussions
Why is Amirox comparing Miiverse and NeoGAF like the two things are supposed to serve the same purpose? They are not! Two completely different things.
I don't browse Miiverse to have lengthy discussions about a game. It is there for me for when I want to share a moment from some game I'm playing, or get help if I get stuck. If you want to call it a circle jerk, feel free to do so, but it doesn't mean it is not bigger than that. And better of all, we don't need to listen (or read) to people complaining about games they've never played on Miiverse, since we know right away who owns the game and who doesn't.
I don't browse Miiverse to have lengthy discussions about a game. It is there for me for when I want to share a moment from some game I'm playing, or get help if I get stuck. If you want to call it a circle jerk, feel free to do so, but it doesn't mean it is not bigger than that. And better of all, we don't need to listen (or read) to people complaining about games they've never played on Miiverse, since we know right away who owns the game and who doesn't.
It's good for getting hints on a game people respond fairly quickly in my experiance as opposed to other forums where it can take like hours to get a response.
I'm not trying to promote my post but has someone else approached MiiVerse this way?
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It's Miiverse, not NeoGAF. It's a place for Nintendo fans to share their gaming experiences, help one another out, and talk directly with developers. It's not for overdramatic, indulgent, wanna-be sales analyst trolling drivel. It's a place for gamers who like to play games, talk about and share their gaming experiences.
That type of condescending attitude is such a serious problem with a lot of gamers nowadays. It's videogames...it's not that serious. That's the attitude of Miiverse and it is extremely refreshing.
I agree. This is why I mentioned NeoGAF:
BlackBanditSho said:
I was saying he's right, it's not and never could be like GAF. It's closer to twitter.
You know you can disable that in NSMBU, right?
timetokill
Banned
Ooookay, come on, man.
Maybe you haven't played any games with good Miiverse integration. I found it to improve the overall experience.
It's fun to see other people's comments on a Mario level after you beat it, or to ask/see hints about where to find tricky hidden stars or tips.
In Rayman sometimes you'll see a time in the challenges that makes you want to surpass it.
Getting rare photos by bottle in Wind Waker was super useful as well. I probably wouldn't have completed the figurine collection without it (I wasn't about to do the Knuckle quest).
Plus you get to see some great screenshots and stuff along the way. I dunno, just seems you're selling it short by complaining about not fostering discussion when it was never really meant to do that in the first place. Might as well complain about Twitter being a terrible medium for discussion while you're at it.
It's Reyn Time!
Member
First of all, Neogaf is every bit as tainted by fanboyism, shills and agendas as any other gaming community. There is literally nothing that elevates ours above other opinions when it comes to games.
Secondly, your keen insight into the minds of other members here comes from years of interaction with members of this community. You gave miiverse minutes of your time. That's not a fair comparison.
I have a fair few people (celebrities is too strong of a word for most of them) I'm following on Miiverse and it's a delight seeing what they're up to, how they're getting on with the games they're playing and whatever random funny stuff they post. I've added people from there to my friends list and it's been pretty ace.
PhantomR said:
It's not a serious problem at all. But, again, this illustrates my point. You think it's a problem that people take games seriously and expect criticism to thrive. I think that it's what separates consumers from shitty development and publishing practices and I think it's how we improve the hobby we all love. Obviously, someone like me could never enjoy Miiverse. I am not the type of person who often needs to ask for help from other gamers, and in fact that would ruin my enjoyment of a product most of the time. One of my early fears of Miiverse was that I'd have to see images pop up that spoiled a solution or something, in fact. Further, there are far better and higher quality ways to share with the community screenshots of memorable moments in games, and if I did want to share, I'd want it to be in a community for which discussion can actually thrive.
It's no problem if you like it. I am simply explaining why it does not work for some people like myself.
And that is where the sense of community comes from. You have an in-game experience, you post it, people who had the same experience can Yeah or comment on it.
I didn't quite get Miiverse until I got stuck in Donkey Kong Crash Course and asked on Miiverse how you were supposed to pass that particular challenge. Within minutes I got two or three responses, both of people also stuck in the same place and tips on how to pass it. Later a guy even made a drawing of what I had to do. And then it clicked.
It is a nice community. People are friendly and polite. There is a lot of garbage in there? Yes, there is. But the concept of Miiverse is very solid, and I'm really glad I get to have the same experience now on 3DS.
It's Reyn Time!
Member
That's not at all what you're doing with phrases like 'rainbow vomit' and 'fanboy circle-jerk' though, is it? That's being dismissive, presumptious and kinda offensive.
That's why it doesn't work for me. Because that's how it feels every time I'm on there. You call it 'presumptious', but if you're OFFENDED by that, then you need to disconnect emotionally from this discussion.
You don't have any friends on there? Read your friends/follower/ing list if you don't want to read what the 8 year olds had for lunch. It's not that hard.
I think Amir0x is one of these people who enjoys complaining about games on the internet more than actually playing them. One of these people who thinks that by being hyper-critical, he is somehow "better" than people who just get on with enjoying their games. The air must be a bit thin up there on that massive pedestal he's built for himself.