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[Springy]

I hate games that pretend shotguns lose all effectiveness beyond ~4ft, as if it suddenly turns the shot into confetti. What's the god damn point then, especially in cases where you have one-hit melee kills.

 

[Tamanator]

The Makarov Pistol needs to make more appearances in video games. A fantastic pistol which has all the hallmarks of Soviet ingenuity. Much more satisfying than the desert eagle.

 

[Hahs]

I hate revolvers - they're slow, and only seem good for cops - to minimize confusion, and paperwork.

Sorry OP, but this is my baby!

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

Deagles in games are almost always gigantic, view blocking, impractical guns. Just like real life.
The one in L4D2 is especially offensive because it takes up like half the screen.

Deagle in CSGO and BF4 are beast.

When was the last time you used a deagle in CSGO? Gun is trash tier. Why anybody would downgrade to it for $200 more than the Rekt-9 or exceptionally good 5-7 is beyond me.

 

[Spuck-uk]

There are guns other than shotguns?!?

My Man

 

[anotherVegan]

The Klobb in GoldenEye has to go down as the worst FPS gun of all time.

Unless you had two Klobbs then you just suck twice as much.

 

[Bishop89]

more proof deagles are the best.

nuff said.

 

[Jackpot]

The Makarov Pistol needs to make more appearances in video games. A fantastic pistol which has all the hallmarks of Soviet ingenuity. Much more satisfying than the desert eagle.

You mean stealing a Western design and making an inferior version?

 

[Mufausa The 3rd]

Hate the Famas in CS

piece of shit

True, I'd always pick the Galil any day over the Famas.

 

[impact]

it is terrible

five-seven or tec9 all day

 

[...Scatter...]

Any auto rifle in Destiny PVP. Also shotguns in destiny where you have to basically be within 2 feet of the person to get a kill. Shotgun spread in real life is not THAT bad.

The Dual wield 1811 shotguns can suck it in COD.

 

[Kiko]

The Klobb in GoldenEye has to go down as the worst FPS gun of all time.

Unless you had two Klobbs then you just suck twice as much.

Dammit I forgot about that shitgun again. Yeah that thing was unbearable.

 

[Akronis]

Sucks in real life too.

Semi-auto that shoots magnum loads? Yea ok guy.

 

[Heroman]

Semi-auto that shoots magnum loads? Yea ok guy.

It big and heavy is out perform by other weapon, the desert eagle is a terrible weapon, there is a reason why it not used.

 

[Accoun]

I suppose no one posted it yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_OW9NHJ84

 

[Akronis]

It big and heavy is out perform by other weapon, the desert eagle is a terrible weapon, there is a reason why it not used.

In what context? Actual combat? I can agree there, there's no point to it there. But it's a fucking semi-automatic magnum. That shit is awesome.

 

[Franconstein]

I personally love the Desert Eagle in videogames, because it doesn't have the one major issue it has in real life: the impracticality due to its weight and size. It retains the benfits, though: looking badass and being able to one-shoot your targets. Sure, limited clip size, but I use it as a short-ranged sniper. Never did like spending lots of ammo anyway.

What I personally hate using are high rate-of-fire weapons, unless it's completely over the top, like the suppresive fire machine guns from Battlefield that have 200-round magazines.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh I did not mean weak in terms of real life application, pretty much every game ignores the actual damage that a weapon can produce. I mean in most games the gun is weak when compared to other starting weapons ( Due to it usually being either a low level/starter weapon in multiplayer and campaign), plus i've never liked the sound of the weapon and most games never really capture it that well

Except i loved it in BFBC2 where the weapon was like a 2 shot kill on hardcore

Totally agreed there. I think the original Medal of Honor was the closest we got to how an M1 is. Fantastic impact on their weapons. In fact, all their weapons had the very best sound with headphones.

Hearing a sniper bullet wiz buy your head, made you literally jump it was so well done.

 

[213372bu]

Deagle got really nerfed somewhere a year into CS:GO's launch.

Y'all never played 1.6 and Source where Deagle was the king.

 

[impact]

Deagle got really nerfed somewhere a year into CS:GO's launch.

Y'all never played 1.6 and Source where Deagle was the king.

Deagle was dumb in 1.6 because deag armor = full buy basically.

No one gives a fuck about Source honestly.

 

[Stinkles]

Everything that isn't an AK or a Shotgun.

When it comes to sci-fi weapons I hate every promethean weapon in Halo 4 they all suck major ass.

Come at me babby formed

 

[Parakeetman]

Man I was trying to find that image to use along with the post lol

Weak? What?

Maybe games screw it up, especially sound, but that 30-06 would take an arm off, or blow a ballistics hole in a chest the size of a grapefruit.

And it is "overused" because that is what the allied forces mostly used for infantry, or also Springfield's when the Colt M1 was supply constrained.

Such a beautiful rifle.

That is one rifle that most def will ruin someones day & good looks if given a love tap with it. People have no idea how damned heavy that thing is. The thompson too which is even more surprising considering its size.

Cant imagine how "fun" that used to be running around with those during WWII for my grandfather. He eventually wound up with a M1 carbine.

Thats one rifle I would like to see show up more.

Nothing worse than a Desert Eagle than a Deagle...

And with screwing up weapons hate how most devs seem to think of the AK-47 as some sore of LOLSCRUB badguy rifle. While it may be outclassed accuracy wise what it can do in damage and penetration is something to be appreciated.

Wish was behind a normal pc to find that old ballistics test vid so people would have some sore of point of reference.

Was like how CoD went and got the FAL all wrong.

 

[Rur0ni]

I hated playing Allies in DoD because of this beast.

Yeah, it used to bum me out too until I got good, lol. Garand be mowin' them down.

 

[TheBowen]

Totally agreed there. I think the original Medal of Honor was the closest we got to how an M1 is. Fantastic impact on their weapons. In fact, all their weapons had the very best sound with headphones.

Hearing a sniper bullet wiz buy your head, made you literally jump it was so well done.

Yeah Allied Assault and Frontline and Rising Sun definitely were some of the best examples of the M1 Garand.

Come at me babby formed

 

[Daunt]

OP needs one. You're not you when you're hungry.

 

[LeonSPBR]

i
the M1 Garand can suck it, too. way overrated. i always swap that shit for a Kar 98 if i can.

No, just no.

 

[TheSeks]

the M1 Garand can suck it, too.

So wrong it's physically painful.

I suppose no one posted it yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_OW9NH

That's actually a pretty cool channel.

In what context? Actual combat? I can agree there, there's no point to it there. But it's a fucking semi-automatic magnum. That shit is awesome.

In actual combat, in recoil, etc. it's impractical.

 

[Booshka]

The Deagle of Console Shooters

Your wrong OP, strong Pistols are great, Kar 98 is better than the M1 though, one shot to the chest and their down, love that weapon.

 

[EBE]

im not saying you Garand lovers are horrible people but you're horrible people.

also not a fan of automatic shotguns like the Saiga or USAS. they're no bueno.

one auto shotgun i do like (its look and profile anyway) is the Striker. i know its a crap gun in real life but i like its look

speaking of which, which looks better with the stock folded up, Striker or SPAS?

 

[Daingurse]

im not saying you Garand lovers are horrible people but you're horrible people.

also not a fan of automatic shotguns like the Saiga or USAS. they're no bueno.

one auto shotgun i do like (its look and profile anyway) is the Striker. i know its a crap gun in real life but i like its look

speaking of which, which looks better with the stock folded up, Striker or SPAS?

Always loved the look of the SPAS, folded or unfolded. Don't really like the Striker aesthetically.

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

You hate getting #1Deag'd on dust2 through double doors?

 

[foxtrot3d]

Sten and Grease guns are garbage tier WW2 weapons. i dont like em one bit.

also that goofy ass Bren gun

get the hell out of here with that nonsense.

Stop it man, you're making me get angry. First OP starts this heresy about the M1 Garand and now you are talking shit about the Bren Gun. Breh, let's go right now I'll woop out my Bren gun and sweep the floor with you on any DoD map. The Bren is second only to the BAR as my favorite weapon.

 

[Battle_Scarred Shogun]

that's some fuckin heresy son

this, man that gun is legendary.

 

[Hyperzephyrian]

AA-12. It's dumb, automatic shotguns are dumb, it looks like something out of The Jetsons, just stop it.

the Deagle is boss in CS 1.6.

Don't care what it's like in real life because I'm not a gun toting hillbilly.

You don't have to be a "hillbilly" to shoot guns in real life, fuckstick.

 

[Docflem]

Weak? What?

Maybe games screw it up, especially sound, but that 30-06 would take an arm off, or blow a ballistics hole in a chest the size of a grapefruit.

And it is "overused" because that is what the allied forces mostly used for infantry, or also Springfield's when the Colt M1 was supply constrained.

Such a beautiful rifle.

This is a crazy post, I love the Garand to,(its not my favorite, my great grandfather was issued a Lee–Enfield in world war 2 that he managed to get home that i now own so it's naturally my favorite ww2 weapon) but the idea that it would take off a grown man's arm, or make a grapefruit sized whole is just silly. While exit wound can be quite large (30-06 could be the size of a smallish fist) entrance wounds are generally barely larger then the round that makes them. So while games do down play the amount of damage a rifle can do, I find other media more than makes up for it and I'm pretty sure that is why you would think a 30-06 could do those things.

Edit: As for the topic, I rarely have a problem with one particular weapon, but more how multiples of the same type of weapon often blend in together, only to be separated by minor stats, games haven't gotten to the point where they can really mimic the different feels these weapons all have.

 

[Darkwater]

The Makarov Pistol needs to make more appearances in video games. A fantastic pistol which has all the hallmarks of Soviet ingenuity. Much more satisfying than the desert eagle.

I remember this from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

It was horrid. The thing never killed anybody.

more proof deagles are the best.

nuff said.

OBJECTION! That's an agent. They're freakish strong and freakish fast and the gun matches it. No mere man matches the comical excess of the Desert Eagle.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

OP you cray, the deagle is boss.

Especially in CS 1.6... Poppin them head shots unfffff so gewd

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is a crazy post, I love the Garand to,(its not my favorite, my great grandfather was issued a Lee–Enfield in world war 2 that he managed to get home that i now own so it's naturally my favorite ww2 weapon) but the idea that it would take off a grown man's arm, or make a grapefruit sized whole is just silly. While exit wound can be quite large (30-06 could be the size of a smallish fist) entrance wounds are generally barely larger then the round that makes them. So while games do down play the amount of damage a rifle can do, I find other media more than makes up for it and I'm pretty sure that is why you would think a 30-06 could do those things.

Edit: As for the topic, I rarely have a problem with one particular weapon, but more how multiples of the same type of weapon often blend in together, only to be separated by minor stats, games haven't gotten to the point where they can really mimic the different feels these weapons all have.

If a 30-06 or any 30cal (.308 or 7.62) hits your humerus, you can say goodbye to that arm. More often than not is is now jello, and usually the destruction it leaves would have it removed or hanging from strings.

I said, "ballistic hole" not entry or exit wound. The ballistics destruction it will do inside a chest cavity is probably larger than a grapefruit, I was being ultra conservative. I can assure you without divulging too much of my personal life/training, that I do know what I am talking about with that caliber round.

That is why the Geneva convention asked for more "humane" rounds and NATO adopted the 5.56 (.223) for infantry small arms. That round for everyday infantry is pretty fucking nasty.

 

[Will M]

Desert Eagle is crap. I prefer the .357 like the one in HL

 

[Docflem]

If a 30-06 or any 30cal (.308 or 7.62) hits your humerus, you can say goodbye to that arm. More often than not is is now jello, and usually the destruction it leaves would have it removed or hanging from strings.

I said, "ballistic hole" not entry or exit wound. The ballistics destruction it will do inside a chest cavity is probably larger than a grapefruit, I was being ultra conservative. I can assure you without divulging too much of my personal life/training, that I do know what I am talking about with that caliber round.

That is why the Geneva convention asked for more "humane" rounds and NATO adopted the 5.56 (.223) for infantry small arms. That round for everyday infantry is pretty fucking nasty.

Well see I don't mind posting my experience (7 years Army Combat Medic, 2 deployments [both Iraq and Afghanistan]) and quite frankly "ballistic hole" is a nonsensical term. I have treated 7.62 (a round very similar to a 30-06) wounds in arms, legs and a chest or two. Yes if a 30-06 hit smack dabe in the middle of a bone it would shatter it, so would a 5.56 and pretty much any rifle round. However smashing a bone isn't "taking an arm off" by any stretch the the imagination. That person may lose the arm later after surgery, but there is a chance to reconstruct the bone and allow that person to keep his arm.

Also the total volume of a hole created by a 7.62 might be the same volume of a grape fruit, but the way you wrote your sentience makes it sound like the circumference of the wound would be grapefruit sized. If you are as experienced as you would imply, you would know this to be false.

Finally, the Hauge conventions of 1899 covered humane use of weapons of war, the Geneva conventions were about people in war, not weapons and so that subject was not covered at that time.

 

[Aselith]

its just too blocky. its also comically large. zero finesse to that gun. it always looks like a toy and quite frankly its outstayed its welcome as a staple of shooter games.

the M1 Garand can suck it, too. way overrated. i always swap that shit for a Kar 98 if i can.

so GAF, what guns do you hate using in shooters?

I deslike you

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well see I don't mind posting my experience (7 years Army Combat Medic, 2 deployments [both Iraq and Afghanistan]) and quite frankly "ballistic hole" is a nonsensical term. I have treated 7.62 (a round very similar to a 30-06) wounds in arms, legs and a chest or two. Yes if a 30-06 hit smack dabe in the middle of a bone it would shatter it, so would a 5.56 and pretty much any rifle round. However smashing a bone isn't "taking an arm off" by any stretch the the imagination. That person may lose the arm later after surgery, but there is a chance to reconstruct the bone and allow that person to keep his arm.

Also the total volume of a hole created by a 7.62 might be the same volume of a grape fruit, but the way you wrote your sentience makes it sound like the circumference of the wound would be grapefruit sized. If you are as experienced as you would imply, you would know this to be false.

Finally, the Hauge conventions of 1899 covered humane use of weapons of war, the Geneva conventions were about people in war, not weapons and so that subject was not covered at that time.

I was being sensational since we are on a gaming forum. But surely you know the difference between entry/exit and ballistics based on your credentials. It is why I used the word ballistics, and tried to dumb it down a bit.

Geneva passed small arms laws on the brink of the Vietnam era which included the NATO 5.56 to be used in place of the 7.62. It is the way it fragments inside the body with less kinetic force of the larger round causing much more destruction and usually suffering. Not to mention lighter weight, cheaper to manufacture, and still does the job (I know I am preaching to the choir here, lol).

I think we are both agreeing on the same thing, and the confusion lays within the semantics/choice of words chosen. My apologies.

 

[Docflem]

I was being sensational since we are on a gaming forum. But surely you know the difference between entry/exit and ballistics based on your credentials. It is why I used the word ballistics, and tried to dumb it down a bit.

Geneva passed small arms laws on the brink of the Vietnam era which included the NATO 5.56 to be used in place of the 7.62. It is the way it fragments inside the body with less kinetic force of the larger round causing much more destruction and usually suffering. Not to mention lighter weight, cheaper to manufacture, and still does the job (I know I am preaching to the choir here, lol).

I think we are both agreeing on the same thing, and the confusion lays within the semantics/choice of words chosen. My apologies.

Yeah, maybe I went at this a little too hardcore, I accept your apologies and I'd like to add mine also. I enjoy debunking myths a bit too much I think and I definitely derailed this thread a bit.

 

[Screaming Meat]

The Makarov Pistol needs to make more appearances in video games. A fantastic pistol which has all the hallmarks of Soviet ingenuity. Much more satisfying than the desert eagle.

Gawd bless Far Cry 2, eh?

I want to see more Mosin Nagants, myself.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah, maybe I went at this a little too hardcore, I accept your apologies and I'd like to add mine also. I enjoy debunking myths a bit too much I think and I definitely derailed this thread a bit.

I am the exact same way my man. Probably why this went so well. I salute you, sir.

 

[7DollarHagane]

Did someone say Juan deag

 

[Thorgal]

Tbf the desert eagle has no reason to exist Irl or games, except for bragging rights of look at the size of my gun.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Tbf the desert eagle has no reason to exist Irl or games, except for bragging rights of look at the size of my gun.

IRL it is just an enthusiast/collector novelty item. I fired one, shoots like a Cadillac, but impractical as shit, and very heavy.

In a game, it is fine if done right (which nobody would use it then), it is just so grossly inaccurate of it's representation in games. Especially R6:Vegas and CS 1.6.

100 yard head shot twitchiness accuracy is plain BS on that sidearm (when other firearms in the same games are more representative). Most have a tough time hitting a broad side of a barn with a .40cal in high tension situations (due to how hot the loads are with weapon balance in lighter framed sidearms like a Glock), this would be even worse.

 

[nilbog21]

OP clearly never played CS 1.6

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

This is my beast in DoD.