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I have a feeling that the Switch 2 frenzy has died a quick death

When? They haven't announced any of those things, have they? If that's their release schedule, it's spread over the next five years.
That's the plan, they will spread it and not release it all at once for the sake of sales momentum.

Heavy hitters for Switch 2
2025
MKW - 70 seller
DK Bananza - 10m seller
Legends ZA S2 edition - 5m seller

My prediction for the upcoming heavy hitters
2026
Pokemon Wind/Wave
New Animal Crossing
New Luigi's Mansion - 10m seller
Splatoon 4 - 10m seller

2027
New 3d Mario
New Smash Bros
New Mario Party game - 15m seller

2028
New 3d Zelda
Pokemon Wind/Wave expansion
New Pokémon Remake

2029
New AAA Pokémon Spinoff
New 2d Mario

2030
New mainline Pokemon
Splatoon 5
 
Reality: Switch 2 is the best selling console ever launch aligned and blows out the 2nd place competition.

Sony Fanboys: it'll die off any day now. The. Frenzy. Is. Over.
 
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These feelings speak truer words than any data. When you know something deep in your heart, no misleading chart will make you flinch. After the frenzy, there will be distant echoes of those holding on to a vain hope. Then, silence.

This shit is scary, man.
 
There are several things holding it back:

1. Absolutely bizarre approach to third parties where many of them don't even have Dev kits yet.

2. The graphical leap between the Wii u, switch, and the switch 2 is simply not that impressive.

3. It lacks a real headliner game. A Zelda or a Mario game would do wonders. Something that is a departure or return to what they've done in the past. The breath of the wild games and the more recent last handful of Pokemon games all seem to be using the breath of the wild engine. This means they lack distinct visual character. Even to some extent donkey Kong but that game does look different in a lot of ways.

4. A new IP with getting excited about or an exciting return of an old IP like Animal Crossing, Earthbound, or f-zero.

I don't know why on Earth people are laughing at my post above.

Can anyone say anything that I posted that isn't accurate? The only thing objectionable is the comparison of the graphics between the Wii u and the switch 2. And sorry but outside of resolution there is absolutely not several generations difference and what the system is capable of from a visual standpoint. The way you came out 13 years ago...

And I'm also a huge Nintendo fanboy, check my post history. I just want them to do better with the switch 2.
 
That's the plan, they will spread it and not release it all at once for the sake of sales momentum.

2028

New 3d Zelda

Wishful thinking but I seriously hope the new 3D Zelda is completely new.

I want something that looks and feels like Twilight Princess. I'm over looking at their dull attempt at cel-shading.
 
Nintendo needs to learn a lesson the hard way...
If you earn money your userbase want you to invest this money to bring a better cheaper product... not another half baked product inbetween generations
 
Same. Once I'd replayed the Zelda games and Mario Odyssey, that was it for me. I haven't played my Switch 2 for a good few weeks now. It's pointless me buying the 3rd-party games because I have them on PS5, along with a Portal.

However, I do feel it will sell gang busters like the original. Not certain if it'll sell in excess of the original - I guess it depends on how good the 1st party lineup is after a few years. MK W is certainly not as good as the previous MK.

But yeah, other than the release window, the Switch 2 has been constantly available to buy in the UK. As others have said, it could sell out again around Xmas. If so, I'd be tempted to put mine up for sale. I'm not into Pokémon and the new Metroid game doesn't excite me much. Other than a new Zelda or Mario, I'm not sure what else could pique my interest tbh. I kind of miss games like Pilotwings, F-Zero and Wave Race.
Yea, I've been considering just selling my Switch 2 and keeping the PS5 Pro as my single main console. I just don't see the point of having a Switch 2 with a PS5 Pro when a lot of the games on the Switch 2 are just worse ports of PS5 games. Aside from the occasional Nintendo exclusive game, but no upcoming Nintendo exclusives I want to play other than Metroid Prime 4.
 
Yea, I've been considering just selling my Switch 2 and keeping the PS5 Pro as my single main console. I just don't see the point of having a Switch 2 with a PS5 Pro when a lot of the games on the Switch 2 are just worse ports of PS5 games. Aside from the occasional Nintendo exclusive game, but no upcoming Nintendo exclusives I want to play other than Metroid Prime 4.
Wouldn't be a bad move if there aren't any exclusives that interest you.

It's really hard to tell if the Switch 2 will cost the same, more, or less in 2026, 2027, 2028, etc. I'm sure we'll get a hardware revision at some point, too.

Something to keep in mind for when exclusives that interest you do eventually drop.
 
So weird to see Nintendo and Xbox flip flopping on strategies for selling
consoles years ago.
Remember when it was Nintendo artificially limiting stocks to create demand?
Now Microsoft is the one limiting their stock and there is more xbox demand/chatter/bing searching than ever.
This is why phil and sarah are still at xbox, their unmatched vision and ability to adapt to the competition.
Hopefully Nintendo course corrects soon, its still early.

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My Switch 2 was collecting dust after i got my fill of Mario Kart.
Pokemon ZA is the shit though and that is no longer the case.
 
I think the system is doing ok, but for me at least the interest got cold a bit. I'm still waiting for better games to come out and justify a purchase.
 
Splatoon 4 - 10m seller

Splatoon Raiders is next year, so we're definitely not getting Splatoon 4 for at least a couple more years.

The rest of your list is certainly possible. Personally I think we get 3D Mario next holiday and Animal Crossing and Luigi's Mansion in 2027.
 
80m is barely above 3ds which Switch 2 has zero problems to outsell it.

Switch 2 is going to have
New animal crossing - 35m seller
New 3d Mario - 25m seller
New 3d Zelda - 25m seller
New mainline Pokémon games - 20m seller
New smash brothers - 20m seller
New Pokémon remakes - 15m seller
Monster evergreen MK World - 70m seller

Switch 2 is currently outpacing other gaming consoles.
Switch 2 sold 6m in 7 weeks
Nintendo 3ds shipped 6.6m in 7 months

Switch 2 is at least will be able to reach 100m sales without any problems.
Perhaps it could reach 100 million? I just don't think it will. I could be wrong.

The switch 2 doesn't look like a 100 million unit device to me. When the Switch 1 released, it had absolutely no relevant competition in its space. It was just Aya Neo and what not. Now we have steam, Xbox with their handheld, Asus with their handhelds, Lenovo, Msi, etc and apparently Sony's handheld which will give you access to the ps5's library?


All of those are competing for the same attention and many of them already offer a superior value proposition to the switch 2. With the pc handhelds, have access to all Nintendo's library up to the switch via emulation. They are more functional, have a way larger library of good games, etc. Except you solely want to play Nintendo Switch 2 games, there's really no reason to buy one. Frankly, I don't think there's a market of 100 million people who solely want to play switch 2 games. Nintendo's best selling consoles have always come when they're in blue ocean space. The og switch and Wii are examples of this…. Once the market becomes saturated, the sales drop noteably.
 
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I don't know why on Earth people are laughing at my post above.

Can anyone say anything that I posted that isn't accurate? The only thing objectionable is the comparison of the graphics between the Wii u and the switch 2. And sorry but outside of resolution there is absolutely not several generations difference and what the system is capable of from a visual standpoint. The way you came out 13 years ago...

And I'm also a huge Nintendo fanboy, check my post history. I just want them to do better with the switch 2.
I'd say the issues are:

1. Switch 2 is a full generational leap over Switch in power. And it's a multi-generational leap over the 3DS. Switch wasn't a big leap over Wii U, because it was a hybrid console and not a pure home console.

2. Switch 2 got its biggest headliner on Day 1. Nothing that comes out on Switch 2 in the next 10 years is likely to sell as well as Mario Kart World.
 
Figures. The Direct was terrible, there are just 2 exclusive games (Mario Kart World which is also disliked by many in the community) and DK Bananza.

They should have announced a system seller with graphics that really showcase what the system can do and why you should buy one.
 
Perhaps it could reach 100 million? I just don't think it will. I could be wrong.

The switch 2 doesn't look like a 100 million unit device to me. When the Switch 1 released, it had absolutely no relevant competition in its space. It was just Aya Neo and what not. Now we have steam, Xbox with their handheld, Asus with their handhelds, Lenovo, Msi, etc and apparently Sony's handheld which will give you access to the ps5's library?


All of those are competing for the same attention and many of them already offer a superior value proposition to the switch 2. With the pc handhelds, have access to all Nintendo's library up to the switch via emulation. They are more functional, have a way larger library of good games, etc. Except you solely want to play Nintendo Switch 2 games, there's really no reason to buy one. Frankly, I don't think there's a market of 100 million people who solely want to play switch 2 games. Nintendo's best selling consoles have always come when they're in blue ocean space. The og switch and Wii are examples of this…. Once the market becomes saturated, the sales drop noteably.
1. Switch 2 has already outsold all PC handhelds combined.
2. Switch 2 is the fastest selling Nintendo hardware, far cry from WiiU situation.
3. Mario Kart World is only available on Switch 2.
4. Last sony handheld flopped catastrophically by selling less than 10m.
5. Gamers are buying Switch 2 to play Switch 2 games and not Nintendo 64 or Nintendo Gameboy games.
 
Switch 1 had absolutely no relevant competition in its space

Now we have steam, Xbox with their handheld, Asus with their handhelds, Lenovo, Msi, etc
Niche PC handhelds are the "relevant" competition? Switch 2 hasn't even been out a year and has already obliterated all of them.
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The only major player I could see competing is a Sony device at this point. And that seems a few years away still, if it even happens at all.
 
1. Switch 2 has already outsold all PC handhelds combined.
It doesn't matter. Those options shrink the addressable market for Nintendo as others are purchasing them instead of the switch 2. In the past, the only real option would have been the switch 2.
2. Switch 2 is the fastest selling Nintendo hardware, far cry from WiiU situation.
It's the fastest selling because it has the most supply. If the wii had just as much supply, it would be by far the fastest selling. Not only that, the switch 2 has the most available supply for a console in recent history.
3. Mario Kart World is only available on Switch 2.
And it's pretty poor? I don't know what point you're trying to make?
4. Last sony handheld flopped catastrophically by selling less than 10m.
Multiple Nintendo consoles have flopped? Past success or failures are not a predictor of future results
5. Gamers are buying Switch 2 to play Switch 2 games and not Nintendo 64 or Nintendo Gameboy games.
Who said they weren't? You're arguing something that wasn't even under debate. The only question is the size of the market not whether the market exists....
 
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It doesn't matter. Those options shrink the addressable market for Nintendo as others are purchasing them instead of the switch 2. In the past, the only real option would have been the switch 2.
Of course it matters. If Switch (1) is the market without any competition, removing the total sales of all PC handhelds from the Switch's (1) total sales/market share you'd still end up with something like >140M units sold. And that's being generous towards PC handhelds.

I.e. the "shrink" is barely noticeable even when assuming that there is zero overlap of people purchasing both.
 
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This is incredibly funny, we have the reality of Switch 2 very soon hitting 10M after a few months on the market and at the same time people on the internet still trying to will ''Its a new Wii U'' into existence.

This seems to just be console warring fiction at this point in time. Switch 2 is just Nintendo's PS4-PS5 transition, with a safe new console just continuing the success of the previous one, just as anyone realistic knew would happen.
 
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I know a lot of mothers who spent 270$ for their children to have a Switch, mainly for Pokémon (boys) Animal Crossing (girls), but those same parents aren't buying a 500$ new toy for the kids, is too much.
 
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This is incredibly funny, we have the reality of Switch 2 very soon hitting 10M after a few months on the market and at the same time people on the internet still trying to will ''Its a new Wii U'' into existence.

This seems to just be console warring fiction at this point in time. Switch 2 is just Nintendo's PS4-PS5 transition, with a safe new console just continuing the success of the previous one, just as anyone realistic knew would happen.
People are just disappointed with the reality of the games, mario kart world looks like a switch game, mtetroid and pokemon are switch games, donkey kong is basically as well. kirby looks like a switch game.

Switch graphics were already underwhelming in 2017. People are so disappointed that they think switch 2 will flop.

The thing is the switch 2 target demographic and audience is not forum dwellers, in here lies the disconnect
 
I'd say the issues are:

1. Switch 2 is a full generational leap over Switch in power. And it's a multi-generational leap over the 3DS. Switch wasn't a big leap over Wii U, because it was a hybrid console and not a pure home console.

2. Switch 2 got its biggest headliner on Day 1. Nothing that comes out on Switch 2 in the next 10 years is likely to sell as well as Mario Kart World.

Mario Kart world will be surprised sales wise easily by the next Mario or main line Zelda.

You make it sound like the Switch 2 peaked on day 1...
 
Mario Kart world will be surprised sales wise easily by the next Mario or main line Zelda.

You make it sound like the Switch 2 peaked on day 1...
What makes you say that?

No other game has sold more than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch. Mario Kart World will likely keep selling throughout Switch 2's entire lifetime.
 
Was in Tokyo and Tsukuba last week. Could not find a store with Switch 2 in stock. And almost all of the required you to be a member in order to get one with the next restock. Anecdotal evidence for sure. But it seems to be doing numbers over there, unless it's a production issue.
 
This is incredibly funny, we have the reality of Switch 2 very soon hitting 10M after a few months on the market and at the same time people on the internet still trying to will ''Its a new Wii U'' into existence.

This seems to just be console warring fiction at this point in time. Switch 2 is just Nintendo's PS4-PS5 transition, with a safe new console just continuing the success of the previous one, just as anyone realistic knew would happen.
Some people can apparently only afford one console. Let them cope.
 
I was interested in one, then I noticed that you basically need to subscribe to Nintendo Online to enjoy it. Nintendo is really predatory with that shit. For Mario Kart 8 on Switch, they show you tracks and characters that you cannot use, because you are not a subscriber. They rub it in your face. And since it is mostly a console for my kids, I get to hear it nonstop. "Dad, why don't we have these tracks?" "Well I guess we can't play those because we do not have Nintendo Online :( " Seriously, fuck Nintendo. You can't even buy it as DLC. You NEED to subscribe.
What are you talking about? You can buy all tracks as DLC without online, it's just included with the online + expansion pass.

It's actually ridiculous value for money considering it doubles the number of tracks.
 
I feel for the creators and developers at Nintendo. The people running this company are out of touch and don't even play games. What happened to the Nintendo of Iwata and Reggie? Why werent they replaced by gamers? How can a gaming company be run by people who dont even enjoy or understand their own products? Its absolutely ridiculous.
 
People are just disappointed with the reality of the games, mario kart world looks like a switch game, mtetroid and pokemon are switch games, donkey kong is basically as well. kirby looks like a switch game.

Switch graphics were already underwhelming in 2017. People are so disappointed that they think switch 2 will flop.

The thing is the switch 2 target demographic and audience is not forum dwellers, in here lies the disconnect
Switch consumers are fine paying $70 for a PS2 game with $30 day-1 DLC.
 
Mario Kart world will be surprised sales wise easily by the next Mario or main line Zelda.

You make it sound like the Switch 2 peaked on day 1...
That's quite a claim. These are the shipment numbers for those franchises on Switch:

Mario Kart 8 DX - 68.86 million
BOTW - 33.04 million
Mario Odyssey - 29.05 million

That doesn't mean Switch 2 hardware/software will peak in year one, but it means Nintendo launched the console with the strongest weapon in its arsenal.
 
Got it. In game I believe they push you to subscribe rather than buy.
Ok, i wouldn't know that as i have a subscription since day 1.
The only things you rent are the Nes, Snes, Gameboy, Sega, N64 and GC game collections.
There are people who'd rather buy those games, and they do have a point with that but it doesn't really matter in this day and age when everything is online and needs an online connection to work.
 
That's quite a claim. These are the shipment numbers for those franchises on Switch:

Mario Kart 8 DX - 68.86 million
BOTW - 33.04 million
Mario Odyssey - 29.05 million

That doesn't mean Switch 2 hardware/software will peak in year one, but it means Nintendo launched the console with the strongest weapon in its arsenal.

Yeah the strongest weapon in it's arsenal at launch. Which means literally nothing.

That number also includes all of the copies that were provided in an extensive amount of bundles. Which boosted the sales numbers by tens of millions.

It's not really a fair comparison at all.
 
What makes you say that?

No other game has sold more than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch. Mario Kart World will likely keep selling throughout Switch 2's entire lifetime.

Because 40 million of the copies sold were part of a console bundle...
 
Yeah the strongest weapon in it's arsenal at launch. Which means literally nothing.

That number also includes all of the copies that were provided in an extensive amount of bundles. Which boosted the sales numbers by tens of millions.

It's not really a fair comparison at all.
How does a console having a very strong launch title mean nothing? A massive franchise ike Mario Kart title helps you sell more consoles.

And Nintendo tells us the amount of software bundled each fiscal year. You can't just make up claims in your head like "40 million of the copies sold were part of a console bundle" when the data shows that to be false.

Why did you make that claim with no source?
 
So, now that we've seen the Circana sales, can we put the "Switch 2 is doomed" discourse on ice for another month, or are we each just going to continue to live in a solipcistic world where the only real Walmart is the one in our neighborhood and it always confirms our priors?
 
So, now that we've seen the Circana sales, can we put the "Switch 2 is doomed" discourse on ice for another month, or are we each just going to continue to live in a solipcistic world where the only real Walmart is the one in our neighborhood and it always confirms our priors?
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