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[Zen]

Why are Sonic fans so crazy?

You have no reason to disbelieve the OP? No wonder threads like these exist.

I don't have any reasons to believe him either. Hypothetical speculation is fun and thanks to the mods this will get sorted either way. Most fake insiders aren't so darn balsy as this guy is being, and he has a post history here.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

oh, great.

Now all the little Sonic fanboys are gonna read this and say, "Oh my god, is this true?", then scurry back to their Sonic message boards and blogs and tell the news to all their Sonic friends, and then the Sonic cycle will start anew and then....

Oh, that was the whole point.

Well, carry on then!

 

[Undubbed]

I've seen videos of a few day levels of Sonic Unleashed and I'm very VERY impressed by it. Now I really want to buy the game now.

 

[Catalix]

If Sonic Unleashed is the future of 3D Sonic then I want no part of it.

I got 15 years of mileage from the Genesis Sonics and have no qualms about getting 15 more if necessary.

Honestly, for me, it's hard to be content when many of Sonic's 2D-era contemporaries have made such a successful transition to the third dimension.

Playing the old games is like a constant reminder of the series' current wasted potential.

 

[Osuwari]

this thread's first page got me curious to see that one thread with the guy who bumped it up 3 years later to serve some epic crow.
anyone has a link to that thread?

 

[Son of Godzilla]

It's the MKvDC thing. I'm sure you can find it.

 

[JetSetRadio]

Me too, it's gonna suck :lol :lol

 

[Dandy]

That story-book "shit" is about 100X better than the recent mainline games. :lol

No, they are 1000X worse. I still can't believe people actually like SatSR; I want to play a Sonic game, not some shitty pseudo Space Harrier with Sonic characters in it.

 

[RobbieNick]

0HP? More like 0 credibility!:lol Am I right folks? Hunh? Right?

Seriously who the fuck cares? This "info" reveals nothing of interest.

 

[wRATH2x]

Yeah sure we believe you.

 

[Slavik81]

uhhh....where have you been?

That's what they HAVE been doing, and fucking it up.

Absolutely. It's totally nonsensical that Sonic Adventure 1/2 play fairly well, while their recent entries have tried to do essentially do the same thing and turned out as messes with barely usable controls.

Sonic Unleashed day levels are EXACTLY what a 3D Sonic should be. EXACTLY.

....

Everything else about the daytime levels is PERFECT.

Wait... What?

 

[Htown]

Absolutely. It's totally nonsensical that Sonic Adventure 1/2 play fairly well, while their recent entries have tried to do essentially do the same thing and turned out as messes with barely usable controls.

The Sonic Adventure games don't control all that well, either.

I tend to think of Sonic Adventure as the worst good game I ever played, and I gave up on Sonic Adventure 2.

Haven't started Unleashed yet, but Sonic and the Secret Rings was good. It's just nonsense that you have to unlock the good controls in that game.

 

[Slavik81]

The Sonic Adventure games don't control all that well, either.

Oh, I agree. The Sonic Adventure games has serious issues with the controls, camera and bugs. Very unpolished. Playing them I thought, 'I like it, but this could be so much better. The sequels should smooth out the issues from these games and they'll be amazing.'

What astounds me is that instead of improving in the sequels, the issues from those games kept getting worse.

 

[Kafel]

Nothing unusual. Who cares ?

 

[Sciz]

these are loose quotes and true. i'll bet my account. you're welcome neogaf.

In retrospect, betting your account based on posts from /v/ probably wasn't the best of ideas.

 

[Hero of Legend]

About the TSSZ article.

I don't believe that Sega would treat the Wii as a console to make money off of to pay for their HD games like many believe other companies (Ubisoft in particular) do.

Sega's Wii line-up, especially now as you can see in the Comic-Con thread is nothing short of outstanding.

Hell, many considered Secret Rings to be the best 3D Sonic in years, if not ever.

Black Knight looks to be even better, though less like "traditional" Sonic, it still amazes graphically, it has far more Sonic series references than Unleashed did (more characters, Chao as fairies, Jun composing with Jacques doing cutscene music, Adventure like openness of the levels, etc).

Hell, reviewers preferred the Wii version of Unleashed... awkward, but still a fact.

I still think a Dimps developed Wii Advance/Rush style game may very well be Sonic's finest console outing since Heroes at the very least. Maybe even ever if the keep the Japanese voice option and make sure it's well polished as Dimps handheld Sonic games are.

I hope Jun returns in the 3rd storybook game, and maybe even lend a hand in a Dimps Wii Sonic game.

All-in-all, Sega's Wii efforts have not been second rate in the slightest with the small exception of Unleashed, but it's still a decently polished game (sans Adabat), far more than '06 was for sure.

Not to mention, Black Knight won't be a victim of the Holiday Rush, so the game very likely will be polished. Secret Rings was released in NA first IIRC in February 2007, and Black Knight started development not long afterwards, if not right after, and Secret Rings was only in development for one year!

I don't blame Sega for making the 360 version of Unleashed baseline for this reason:

The Hedgehog Engine was in development since 2005, when only the 360 dev kits were available, maybe PS3 kits were, but definitely not Wii kits.

And Sega obviously wasn't prepared for Sonic 2006's poor sales (bombing even?).

 

[leroy hacker]

About the TSSZ article.

I don't believe that Sega would treat the Wii as a console to make money off of to pay for their HD games like many believe other companies (Ubisoft in particular) do.

That article is idiotic.

SEGA’s plan from the start was to take a loss on the 360 version financially

Not even Sega is stupid enough to plan to lose money on a game.

But as for the OP, who presented the information in these foolish 4chan posts as his own definitely true inside scoop...

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

In retrospect, betting your account based on posts from /v/ probably wasn't the best of ideas.

Wait what

I take time to source my article on that Ben Andac guy, looking up where he worked, where he currently works, etc. and then we post an article about some guy on 4chan?

Man.

At least it's in the rumors section.

 

[SecretBonusPoint]

I especially like the "articles" on that site (TSSZ) about petty spats between Sonic web communities over the most ridiculous shit but reading like in depth political information and scandal. Sonic news, it seems, is utmost serious business these days!

 

[Balb]

I don't care if this particular rumor is true. All I know is that if they don't address the issues stated in the rumor, the next Sonic game will be complete garbage like Sonic Unleashed is. It's one thing to make unpolished games with bad concepts if you have a small team with a low budget. It's another thing if you know you're not doing what most Sonic fans want while having a huge budget.

 

[levious]

his insider info was 4chan?

 

[badrockjones]

I have a friend who told me one time that Sonic would be in Smash Bros. Like, the first Smash Bros. When Melee came out, he was all sorts of "SEE I TOLD YOU SO!"

So, uh...yeah, this insider information will be proven correct just as soon as Sega decides they like making good Sonic games again.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

I especially like the "articles" on that site (TSSZ) about petty spats between Sonic web communities over the most ridiculous shit but reading like in depth political information and scandal. Sonic news, it seems, is utmost serious business these days!

LOL, I got a good laugh out of this post.

thumbs up to you, sir.

 

[MotherFan]

About the TSSZ article.

I don't believe that Sega would treat the Wii as a console to make money off of to pay for their HD games like many believe other companies (Ubisoft in particular) do.

Sega's Wii line-up, especially now as you can see in the Comic-Con thread is nothing short of outstanding.

Hell, many considered Secret Rings to be the best 3D Sonic in years, if not ever.

Black Knight looks to be even better, though less like "traditional" Sonic, it still amazes graphically, it has far more Sonic series references than Unleashed did (more characters, Chao as fairies, Jun composing with Jacques doing cutscene music, Adventure like openness of the levels, etc).

Hell, reviewers preferred the Wii version of Unleashed... awkward, but still a fact.

I still think a Dimps developed Wii Advance/Rush style game may very well be Sonic's finest console outing since Heroes at the very least. Maybe even ever if the keep the Japanese voice option and make sure it's well polished as Dimps handheld Sonic games are.

I hope Jun returns in the 3rd storybook game, and maybe even lend a hand in a Dimps Wii Sonic game.

All-in-all, Sega's Wii efforts have not been second rate in the slightest with the small exception of Unleashed, but it's still a decently polished game (sans Adabat), far more than '06 was for sure.

Not to mention, Black Knight won't be a victim of the Holiday Rush, so the game very likely will be polished. Secret Rings was released in NA first IIRC in February 2007, and Black Knight started development not long afterwards, if not right after, and Secret Rings was only in development for one year!

I don't blame Sega for making the 360 version of Unleashed baseline for this reason:

The Hedgehog Engine was in development since 2005, when only the 360 dev kits were available, maybe PS3 kits were, but definitely not Wii kits.

And Sega obviously wasn't prepared for Sonic 2006's poor sales (bombing even?).

SEGA thinks wii is for kids and casuals only? Then why are they doing Madworld and the conduit? I think the article is full of BS.

 

[Skiptastic]

And here we go again.

:lol She's done it again!

 

[HUELEN10]

OP: Are you Wentos?

 

[TheSonicRetard]

OP: Are you Wentos?

No, he's not.

 

[HUELEN10]

No, he's not.

They have said similar things. I am not saying Wentos is telling the truth or anything either...

 

[TheSonicRetard]

I've talked to Wentos, and I've shown him this thread. He is not the OP.

 

[Azure J]

This is only slightly exaggerated.

Holy fucking shit, WHY is the Sonic Cycle one more memorable, tell me please? Aside from this one being brutally spot on, the diagram for Sonic Advance 2 made me spit up my juice. :lol

 

[HUELEN10]

I've talked to Wentos, and I've shown him this thread. He is not the OP.

Thank you.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

Also, I'm still skeptical as to whether or not this guy is legit. These are all claims that any reasonable in-the-know sonic fan would be able to fake. Luckily, there is someone who is going to either confirm his validity or prove he's fake in not too long.

My feelings on this are, if the dude is proven real, we shouldn't squander an awesome opportunity to ask him about insider info, and if he's fake, then at worst we've heard some fantastic bullshit.

The stuff he's said about sonic team thus far have been interesting. I dunno if he's told anyone else or posted it online.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

Wait... What?

I just believe Sonic can only work on rails in 3D. Exactly like the day levels in Unleashed.

I don't thin kit would work the way people want it to work. Sonic isn't Mario.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

Sonic isn't on rails in Sonic Unleashed. Do you know what on rails is?

 

[Xisiqomelir]

No, they are 1000X worse. I still can't believe people actually like SatSR; I want to play a Sonic game, not some shitty pseudo Space Harrier with Sonic characters in it.

SatSR may not be great (it's probably not even "good", more like mildly above average), but it's a damn sight better than every other game that came out after S&K.

 

[Zen]

0 HP just S-Ranked this thread.

 

[DarkKyo]

Sonic isn't on rails in Sonic Unleashed. Do you know what on rails is?

He was on rails in the Wii games right?

And I think the balance between speed, platforming, and enemies in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 worked quite nice and those are 3D and not on rails.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

SatSR may not be great (it's probably not even "good", more like mildly above average), but it's a damn sight better than every other game that came out after S&K.

Hey hey hey.

Sonic Adventure was just fine. Glitchy, but just fine.

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

I've talked to Wentos, and I've shown him this thread. He is not the OP.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

He was on rails in the Wii games right?

Secret Rings? Yes.

Unleashed? No.

Black Knight? Unknown.

 

[The Hermit]

This is only slightly exaggerated.

Holy crap, this is actually quite accurate!

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I don't think the Rush one is totally spot on, it has pits but not the many. And the level design is consistently amazing, in my opinion.

 

[TheSonicRetard]

Uh, I, Tweaker, and OSM have all talked to the guy. I still think he's a fake although tweaker is gonna confirm it.

EDIT: Actually, Tweaker HASN'T talked to him yet. He waiting for him to sign back onto AIM, which he hasn't done in a long while.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Speaking of Sonic, Unleashed is pretty awesome.

 

[HUELEN10]

Speaking of Sonic, Unleashed is pretty awesome.

And how!

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I can't wait for this guy to lurk for 3 years and serve GAF some good ole crow just like that kid from the DC vs MK thread.

 

[HUELEN10]

I can't wait for this guy to lurk for 3 years and serve GAF some good ole crow just like that kid from the DC vs MK thread.

Link? Story?

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Link? Story?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55845

 

[The On Timers]

so perfect...

 

[Bearillusion]

Edit - what the hell!? I posted in the wrong thread.